h_P. Do we really have religious freedom with the Edmunds Tucker act forcing acceptance of statehood, with the manifesto's after accepting statehood, and the Johnson Amendment, 5013c tax code requirements, marriage licensing, state control of who can legally marry, etc.?h_p wrote: ↑December 6th, 2017, 9:49 amI agree, we have way more government intrusion in our lives than we should have. I'm not seeing how that would convince me we should have more.Vision wrote: ↑December 6th, 2017, 8:00 am Show me one aspect of Society that is not governed by local,state or federal control or all three? A bakery has to have an annual business license, is subject to random inspections from the health department, must pay sales taxes on goods sold, pay workers compensation taxes, get a building permit to build the bakery, pay taxes on any machinery purchased, pay fee's to the landlord so that he can pay property taxes, license vehicles annually used in the business, pay taxes on utilities used, maintain insurance or face closure. All under the threat of violence if you do not comply.
I've been asking that same question, myself. But religious freedom is one of the last dying embers of this once great nation that we have left. Let's not snuff that one out, too.Vision wrote: What freedoms do we have again, please tell me?
That is my point, the war was lost long ago and this cake fight is not really that big of a deal when you truly analyze the awful state we are in.