MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman...

[Elizabeth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 5wtLXiqwHQ


http://www.selfreliancecentral.com/2017 ... AXBOUNTY13

A cab driver who was at the Mandalay Bay hotel when the Las Vegas shootings happened has uploaded this video of the incident.

[David13]

He suggested that the shooter had help 'at some point', that does not mean he had help shooting. If you want to believe there were multiple shooters, you need much better evidence. To me, it's clear there was one shooter--they got up to his room in 7 minutes, the shooter died at the scene and no one got away. Despite what some have claimed, there were tons of shell casings in the room. There were no other window broken, they didn't open, they would have to be broken. If you are thinking there were 'grassy knoll' shooters, then there would be evidence, there would be shell casings and witnesses seeing other shooters. There's no way they would not find out that others shooters were out there, I'm sure they scanned all around for evidence. The sound of the shots sound like one rapid fire gun--I'm no expert, but many of the experts agree. I would expect that in the heat of the moment, the victims would think they were being shot at from all directions. I'm sure they thought they were under siege by an army of shooters.

He could have had some help acquiring his guns and ammo, but he could have done it without letting on what he was doing. I'm sure the police are looking into all his associates. He easily could have gotten all his equipment into the room during the days before. I'm sure there are cameras in the hotel and maybe on the streets and parking garage that may answer some of these questions in time. Right now, it is an ongoing investigation and I'm sure they don't want to give out a lot of information.

It actually took the police 72 minutes to break into his room.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/03/po ... ooter.html

If anyone still doesn't believe there were multiple shooters, then why do even the police say that there were multiple shooters on their police scanner?

What is said on the radio is not conclusive of anything. It's usually loaded with mistakes. They say the location is one thing, but they have the street name wrong. They say they are looking for one thing when they just have bad information. Much of it is at least second hand info, hearsay. Somebody says, and then they repeat it.
It's not factual evidence.
dc

[David13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 5wtLXiqwHQ


http://www.selfreliancecentral.com/2017 ... AXBOUNTY13

A cab driver who was at the Mandalay Bay hotel when the Las Vegas shootings happened has uploaded this video of the incident.

Elizabeth
We have seen the taxi ladies video (I'm a girl).
It suggests there may have been more than one shooter. But does not conclusively prove it.
dc

[Army Of Truth]

What is said on the radio is not conclusive of anything. It's usually loaded with mistakes. They say the location is one thing, but they have the street name wrong. They say they are looking for one thing when they just have bad information. Much of it is at least second hand info, hearsay. Somebody says, and then they repeat it.
It's not factual evidence.
dc

What was said on the police scanner was eyewitness first hand accounts of what they heard while they were there. I would much quicker believe eyewitness accounts, especially multiple accounts, that said they heard multiple shooters than CNN/media's hearsay "official story" account of "lone shooter".

The official story is NOT factual evidence. The lone shooter is NOT factual evidence. It is just a story that they put out for the public to believe.

[David13]

What is said on the radio is not conclusive of anything. It's usually loaded with mistakes. They say the location is one thing, but they have the street name wrong. They say they are looking for one thing when they just have bad information. Much of it is at least second hand info, hearsay. Somebody says, and then they repeat it.
It's not factual evidence.
dc

What was said on the police scanner was eyewitness first hand accounts of what they heard while they were there. I would much quicker believe eyewitness accounts, especially multiple accounts, that said they heard multiple shooters than CNN/media's hearsay "official story" account of "lone shooter".

The official story is NOT factual evidence. The lone shooter is NOT factual evidence. It is just a story that they put out for the public to believe.

Where does it say eyewitness accounts? Hearing gun shots is not an eyewitness account. No one anywhere has said they saw (WITH THEIR EYES) anyone anywhere shooting. The police are out roaming the streets and picking up information that may or may not be accurate. You are grasping at straws. The lone gunman theory has not been proved. The multiple gunman theory has not been proved.

You are making the same mistake that people make with mainstream media. People say they heard it on mainstream media so it must be true. You are saying you heard it on a police radio so it must be true. You don't seem to understand how police radios work.

But there is noting there conclusive, nor "eyewitness".
dc

[kittycat51]

Interesting; a tweet from former Milwaukee sheriff David Clarke.

David A. Clarke, Jr.

@SheriffClarke
I’ve been in law enforcement nearly 40 years & I’m suspicious about everything. We need to engage the public more. 
1:19 PM - Oct 5, 2017
344 Replies
2,203 Retweets
6,211 likes

We are dealing with the "Deep State"' FBI; how can we trust them?

[Elizabeth]

https://conservativetribune.com/police- ... tyalliance



"Chilling body cam footage of the police hunt for gunman Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas shows the intense danger that first responders had to deal with in order to neutralize the man responsible for the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history… officers rushing toward the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino — even as they were urging concert goers to run the other direction because of the gunfire.

At the beginning of the video, an officer can be heard yelling, “Get out of here! Go that way! There are gunshots coming from over there, go that way!”

After one burst of gunfire, police can be seen ducking behind a wall. One of the officers can be heard saying that the gunman is aiming directly for them.

“They’re shooting right at us, guys. Everybody stay down. Stay down,” he says.

According to Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin C. McMahill, the police were trying to hunt the exact location of the shooter. He added that one of the officers ended up being shot by Paddock. This is what America so often forgets about its first responders: It is their solemn duty to run toward situations any rational human being would run away from.

In a nation where the very idea that police should enforce the law has become controversial — to say nothing of how they enforce it — this heart-pounding video should be required viewing. We too often denigrate the badge for political reasons, and the media is all too willing to go along in representing our men and women in uniform as capricious, volatile reactionaries whose only role is societal oppression.

Then moments like these happen and we suddenly remember why these individuals are our heroes. "

[Elizabeth]

https://www.teapartypatriots.org/news/t ... ZKZnyVbTLS

Vegas heroes.

[Army Of Truth]

What is said on the radio is not conclusive of anything. It's usually loaded with mistakes. They say the location is one thing, but they have the street name wrong. They say they are looking for one thing when they just have bad information. Much of it is at least second hand info, hearsay. Somebody says, and then they repeat it.
It's not factual evidence.
dc

What was said on the police scanner was eyewitness first hand accounts of what they heard while they were there. I would much quicker believe eyewitness accounts, especially multiple accounts, that said they heard multiple shooters than CNN/media's hearsay "official story" account of "lone shooter".

The official story is NOT factual evidence. The lone shooter is NOT factual evidence. It is just a story that they put out for the public to believe.

Where does it say eyewitness accounts? Hearing gun shots is not an eyewitness account. No one anywhere has said they saw (WITH THEIR EYES) anyone anywhere shooting. The police are out roaming the streets and picking up information that may or may not be accurate. You are grasping at straws. The lone gunman theory has not been proved. The multiple gunman theory has not been proved.

You are making the same mistake that people make with mainstream media. People say they heard it on mainstream media so it must be true. You are saying you heard it on a police radio so it must be true. You don't seem to understand how police radios work.

But there is noting there conclusive, nor "eyewitness".
dc

Sorry but it is you that is grasping at straws. You apparently believe your mainstream news while you don't believe the actual people and police who were there in Vegas hearing the actual gun fire! I know no one saw the actual persons shooting the guns. No one even saw Stephen Paddock shooting ANY gun. Yet you are already defending our mainstream propaganda media by saying that all the shots were coming from one gun. Were you there? Witness after witness keep reporting that there were multiple gun shots, including police themselves on their police scanners. Maybe you didn't realize that the police have probably heard gun fire before and therefore have a better idea than you do where the gun shots were coming from.

[David13]

What is said on the radio is not conclusive of anything. It's usually loaded with mistakes. They say the location is one thing, but they have the street name wrong. They say they are looking for one thing when they just have bad information. Much of it is at least second hand info, hearsay. Somebody says, and then they repeat it.
It's not factual evidence.
dc

What was said on the police scanner was eyewitness first hand accounts of what they heard while they were there. I would much quicker believe eyewitness accounts, especially multiple accounts, that said they heard multiple shooters than CNN/media's hearsay "official story" account of "lone shooter".

The official story is NOT factual evidence. The lone shooter is NOT factual evidence. It is just a story that they put out for the public to believe.

Where does it say eyewitness accounts? Hearing gun shots is not an eyewitness account. No one anywhere has said they saw (WITH THEIR EYES) anyone anywhere shooting. The police are out roaming the streets and picking up information that may or may not be accurate. You are grasping at straws. The lone gunman theory has not been proved. The multiple gunman theory has not been proved.

You are making the same mistake that people make with mainstream media. People say they heard it on mainstream media so it must be true. You are saying you heard it on a police radio so it must be true. You don't seem to understand how police radios work.

But there is noting there conclusive, nor "eyewitness".
dc

Sorry but it is you that is grasping at straws. You apparently believe your mainstream news while you don't believe the actual people and police who were there in Vegas hearing the actual gun fire! I know no one saw the actual persons shooting the guns. No one even saw Stephen Paddock shooting ANY gun. Yet you are already defending our mainstream propaganda media by saying that all the shots were coming from one gun. Were you there? Witness after witness keep reporting that there were multiple gun shots, including police themselves on their police scanners. Maybe you didn't realize that the police have probably heard gun fire before and therefore have a better idea than you do where the gun shots were coming from.

You are quite sorry indeed at jumping to conclusions about things you know nothing about. I have been alive and shooting twice as long as those young cops have been alive, let alone shooting.

You are totally deluded if you think I believe the mainstream media. And you are totally deluded by believing the non evidence that there was more than one shooter.

What courtroom experience do you have to know what evidence is? Obviously none.

You ought to be sorry about not knowing what grasping at straws means. But I guess it all just goes over your head.

The investigation is not over yet. In fact, much of it hasn't even started. But you have already jumped to conclusions. Dead bang give away that you don't know what you are talking about. You are just fantasizing.

You know, this is a LDS forum, not an LSD forum.

dc

How old are you? You seem like a goofy teen-ager.

[Army Of Truth]

Here's an eyewitness, oops he didnt see anybody shooting. But don't listen to this witness, he was only there in Vegas, getting shot at while running away, and heard bullets flying by him and multiple gun shots. What does he know? Let's listen to the news to tell us what to think.

[David13]

Here's an eyewitness, oops he didnt see anybody shooting. But don't listen to this witness, he was only there in Vegas, getting shot at while running away, and heard bullets flying by him and multiple gun shots. What does he know? Let's listen to the news to tell us what to think.

"David" Does David have a last name?

He "feels" like there was more than one shooter.

Ok, now I see where you come from.
dc

[Army Of Truth]

What was said on the police scanner was eyewitness first hand accounts of what they heard while they were there. I would much quicker believe eyewitness accounts, especially multiple accounts, that said they heard multiple shooters than CNN/media's hearsay "official story" account of "lone shooter".

The official story is NOT factual evidence. The lone shooter is NOT factual evidence. It is just a story that they put out for the public to believe.

Where does it say eyewitness accounts? Hearing gun shots is not an eyewitness account. No one anywhere has said they saw (WITH THEIR EYES) anyone anywhere shooting. The police are out roaming the streets and picking up information that may or may not be accurate. You are grasping at straws. The lone gunman theory has not been proved. The multiple gunman theory has not been proved.

You are making the same mistake that people make with mainstream media. People say they heard it on mainstream media so it must be true. You are saying you heard it on a police radio so it must be true. You don't seem to understand how police radios work.

But there is noting there conclusive, nor "eyewitness".
dc

Sorry but it is you that is grasping at straws. You apparently believe your mainstream news while you don't believe the actual people and police who were there in Vegas hearing the actual gun fire! I know no one saw the actual persons shooting the guns. No one even saw Stephen Paddock shooting ANY gun. Yet you are already defending our mainstream propaganda media by saying that all the shots were coming from one gun. Were you there? Witness after witness keep reporting that there were multiple gun shots, including police themselves on their police scanners. Maybe you didn't realize that the police have probably heard gun fire before and therefore have a better idea than you do where the gun shots were coming from.

You are quite sorry indeed at jumping to conclusions about things you know nothing about. I have been alive and shooting twice as long as those young cops have been alive, let alone shooting.

You are totally deluded if you think I believe the mainstream media. And you are totally deluded by believing the non evidence that there was more than one shooter.

What courtroom experience do you have to know what evidence is? Obviously none.

You ought to be sorry about not knowing what grasping at straws means. But I guess it all just goes over your head.

The investigation is not over yet. In fact, much of it hasn't even started. But you have already jumped to conclusions. Dead bang give away that you don't know what you are talking about. You are just fantasizing.

You know, this is a LDS forum, not an LSD forum.

dc

How old are you? You seem like a goofy teen-ager.

It's apparent that you need to resort to ad hominem attacks to try to peddle your straw man theories.
No, I'm not a teenager. But I have teenage boys. Are you a teenager?

[Army Of Truth]

Again, you don't need to listen to the actual Vegas gun shooting footage and eye witnesses who were there since they don't know what they're talking about. Let's just believe the mainstream media.

[David13]

Where does it say eyewitness accounts? Hearing gun shots is not an eyewitness account. No one anywhere has said they saw (WITH THEIR EYES) anyone anywhere shooting. The police are out roaming the streets and picking up information that may or may not be accurate. You are grasping at straws. The lone gunman theory has not been proved. The multiple gunman theory has not been proved.

You are making the same mistake that people make with mainstream media. People say they heard it on mainstream media so it must be true. You are saying you heard it on a police radio so it must be true. You don't seem to understand how police radios work.

But there is noting there conclusive, nor "eyewitness".
dc

Sorry but it is you that is grasping at straws. You apparently believe your mainstream news while you don't believe the actual people and police who were there in Vegas hearing the actual gun fire! I know no one saw the actual persons shooting the guns. No one even saw Stephen Paddock shooting ANY gun. Yet you are already defending our mainstream propaganda media by saying that all the shots were coming from one gun. Were you there? Witness after witness keep reporting that there were multiple gun shots, including police themselves on their police scanners. Maybe you didn't realize that the police have probably heard gun fire before and therefore have a better idea than you do where the gun shots were coming from.

You are quite sorry indeed at jumping to conclusions about things you know nothing about. I have been alive and shooting twice as long as those young cops have been alive, let alone shooting.

You are totally deluded if you think I believe the mainstream media. And you are totally deluded by believing the non evidence that there was more than one shooter.

What courtroom experience do you have to know what evidence is? Obviously none.

You ought to be sorry about not knowing what grasping at straws means. But I guess it all just goes over your head.

The investigation is not over yet. In fact, much of it hasn't even started. But you have already jumped to conclusions. Dead bang give away that you don't know what you are talking about. You are just fantasizing.

You know, this is a LDS forum, not an LSD forum.

dc

How old are you? You seem like a goofy teen-ager.

It's apparent that you need to resort to ad hominem attacks to try to peddle your straw man theories.
No, I'm not a teenager. But I have teenage boys. Are you a teenager?

Well, now, that proves you didn't read what I posted. The answer was in my post. It's just simple arithmetic.

It's also in my posts that I'm not peddling any theory. You are. But it's one (or more) that isn't supported by any evidence. Just "feelings".

And conclusions. With no basis.
dc

[Army Of Truth]

Wrong again. I'm pushing the truth. The live videos of this shootings that prove there were multiple shooters. It's you who is pushing the mainstream propaganda story that it must have been echoes from the "lone shooter". From the same Gadiantons who brought us the JFK story and the 9/11 story. Talk about being fed lies!

I'm just searching for the truth. I'm not pushing any agenda.

Authority is not my truth. TRUTH is my authority. No matter whom it comes from or what the truth may lead to.

[Gage]

MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02- ... ddock.html#

It’s all hogwash. The “official” narrative of how things went down in the Las Vegas massacre is so full of holes that it begs the question of just how deep the truth about this attack really goes.

What we know for sure is that, yes, 59 people were killed (so far) and hundreds were wounded. This wasn’t a “hoax” shooting — people actually were shot, wounded and killed (and our prayers go out to all their families for this horrific tragedy). Yet the official narrative that claims Stephen Paddock — a retired, 64-year-old accountant with absolutely no firearms training, no gun experience and no physical stamina — was somehow able to expertly wield a highly complex (and physically demanding) weapon system for 10 sustained minutes is total nonsense.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.



Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.

#1: As many as 10 rifles were found in his hotel room… but only one shooter?

The NY Daily News is now reporting that Stephen Paddock “brought at least 10 weapons into a Las Vegas hotel room.”

Why would a single shooter need 10 rifles? Managing just one full auto weapon system is so difficult that it’s probably beyond the physical capabilities of a 64-year-old retired accountant, which is what Paddock was.

The fact that 10 rifles were found in his hotel room says three very important things:

The rifles were staged for more than one shooter.
The operation was extremely well funded.
The attack took a tremendous amount of time to set up, because you don’t just walk 10 rifles up to your hotel room in a single trip.

#2: As with many orchestrated shootings, the scapegoat was murdered before he could talk

According to numerous media reports, Paddock was found dead in his hotel room, shot to death. The official narrative claims that he shot himself before the police breached the room, but that is an assumption, not an established fact. There is no evidence whatsoever that Paddock shot himself. It is simply assumed that he did so. I would ask to see the ballistics evidence of the shot that killed him.

Isn’t it all convenient? There’s no one left to question, and they don’t even have to drug the guy into oblivion like they did the Aurora, Colorado shooter named James Holmes. Eliminating the scapegoat is the oldest trick in the book, as we were all reminded with the shooting of JFK.

#3: Why are there no muzzle flashes visible from the 32nd-floor Mandalay Bay windows in any of the videos that captured the shooting?

If you look at the shooting videos that have been posted online, none of them show any muzzle flashes from the room on the 32nd floor that we’ve been told is the source of the shooting. How can that be? The following video captures the sound of the automatic weapons fire — and even appears to capture at least TWO weapons firing simultaneously — yet shows no muzzle flashes from the 32nd floor windows of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

In fact, the video below shows what might be muzzle flashes from a completely different location closer to the 4th floor.

#4 Why does the gunfire in multiple online videos clearly sound like automatic weapons fire from MULTIPLE weapons?

I challenge anyone to listen to the gunfire in these online videos and conclude it’s only from a single weapon. The very idea is totally absurd. You can clearly hear at least two automatic weapons systems firing over each other.

Listen to the automatic weapons fire at about the 2:00 mark in the video below. It’s clearly coming from multiple weapons:

#5: ISIS has openly claimed responsibility for the attack, stating that Paddock “converted to Islam” months earlier

As reported on Shootings.news, ISIS has already claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas shooting:

Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago.

ISIS has a long track record of only claiming responsibility for events they inspired or planned. It would not be in the interests of ISIS to falsely claim credit for an attack they did not help carry out, as that would discredit their own supporters and funding sources.

#6: Stephen Paddock had no familiarity with automatic weapons and no military training; was not a “gun guy”

From Yahoo News:

Saying his family was in shock, Paddock’s brother told US media he could not understand what motivated his elder brother.

“Where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that,” Eric Paddock told CBS News.

“He’s a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Eat burritos.”

And from NY Daily News:

Eric said his brother was typically no fan of such weaponry. “Not an avid gun guy at all,” Eric Paddock told CBS News outside his home in Waterford Lakes, Fla.

#7: How does a 64-year-old accountant with no military training possess the strength and stamina to fire a fully automatic weapon for nearly 10 minutes?

People who aren’t familiar with firearms have no idea how difficult it is to conduct sustained fire with an automatic weapon. It requires tremendous strength, endurance and training — something that Stephen Paddock had none of. Military special forces operatives train for years to be able to manage such weapons and handle all the problems they pose (barrel overheating, ammo jams, double feeds, recoil management, etc.). The idea that some senior citizen accountant can just pick up a machine gun and lay down thousands of rounds of effective fire in a sustained, 10-minute assault even though he had no experience with such weapons is completely ludicrous.

It actually looks like someone else staged all the guns in the room, perhaps with Paddock’s willingness, then shot and killed Paddock to make him the scapegoat.

Numerous media reports confirm that Paddock had no familiarity with guns and certainly didn’t have any experience with automatic weapons. Via the UK Daily Mail:

Despite being found amid an arsenal of weapons, Eric said that his brother had never been ‘an avid gun guy at all’, adding that he was at a loss as to where Stephen got his arsenal of automatic weapons from.

#8: Stephen Paddock was gambling away huge amounts of cash… where did he get all that money?

According to NBC News, Paddock was engaged in high-stakes gambling to the tune of as much as $30,000 per day:

On several occasions, Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day — and in some cases more than than $20,000 and $30,000 a day — at Las Vegas casinos, according to an NBC News source who read the suspect’s Multiple Currency Transaction Reports (CTR) and a casino gaming executive.

Was he paid to be part of an operation that would then be blamed on him by making him the scapegoat? Some media reports state that Paddock was a wealthy real estate investor. If that’s true, why would he blow all that wealth on gambling?

#9: Stephen Paddock has no criminal history, no record and no apparent beef with anybody

Further supporting the notion that Stephen Paddock was a scapegoat for all this,

Via NY Daily News:

…Paddock had no federal, state or local history with law enforcement before his Sunday night rampage that left 58 dead and more than 500 injured. “We had no knowledge of this individual,” said Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo. “We checked all the databases…”

From the UK Daily Mail, we learn that Paddock had no affiliation with any particular activist group, political group or religious group as far as anyone knows:

“…He added that his brother had ‘no political affiliation, no religious affiliation, as far as we know.”

#10: The attack required meticulous planning, funding and training… it wasn’t some lone senior citizen who just “snapped”

What’s clear from this attack is that it was planned, funded and coordinated. This was not some spontaneous “lone wolf” scenario; it involved multiple weapons being fired simultaneously, long-term planning, staging and financial logistics.

The official narrative that claims this retired accountant just “snapped” and somehow picked up an automatic rifle and expertly laid down highly effective fields of automatic weapons fire for 10 minutes without pause is so insanely stupid as to be laughable.

Only a highly-trained weapons expert with tremendous physical strength, stamina and training could have pulled this off. And that’s clearly not Stephen Paddock.

#11: How was the FBI able to almost immediately declare Paddock had no ties to ISIS — barely 12 hours after the shooting — when the same agency has spent over a year investigating President Trump with zero evidence linking him to Russia, all while refusing to declare Trump has no ties to Russia?

Finally, don’t you find it amazing how the FBI was able to clear any ISIS connection in less than 12 hours after the shooting? This is the same FBI, remember, that has spent over a year desperately trying to find a Russia conspiracy link to President Trump, yet has been unable to do with any legitimate evidence whatsoever. Yet more than year into their investigation, they refuse to clear President Trump of Russia collusion.

Isn’t that interesting? Somehow, the FBI is so amazingly effective and efficient that they can conclude a massive investigation of Stephen Paddock in a mere 12 hours, yet they never quite seem to complete their investigation of President Trump.

Keep asking questions, everyone. And stay informed on all this at Shootings.news.

Actually to me he did shoot like someone with not a lot of shooting experience. Did you see the number of people that were just standing there out in the open looking for the fireworks show. If it would of been an experienced shooter there would of been a lot more people dead.

[Gage]

Is this similar to the conspiracy theorist's who said that airplanes did not fly into the trade centers or the Pentagon when we all watched airplanes fly into the trade centers and the Pentagon?

[sushi_chef]

"
Mick Grimes3
14:45 "three shooters"
15:45 "32 floor room 135"
17:40 "shots on 29 and 32"
18:20 "security officer shot on 32"(shooter listening to scanner)
18:55 "two shooters, fully auto weapons"
20:15 "black dually east towards delano"
26:45 "on 29th floor"
35:10 "someone stole patrol car, need medical"
37:00 "northern most room on 32, unknown on 29"
38:31 "casualties at allibaba and giles, two scenes"
45:01 "allibaba/giles, and mandalay bay two shooting locations, possible 3rd?"
59:30 "possible bomb at luxor valet"
1:11:00 "floor 32 room breech"
1:14:30 "one susspect down inside room 135 32nd floor"
1:20:30 (this is very hard to hear/understand) "one s__ officer that did fire, no other injuries"

Wish i could hear everything after. 
"

http://yournewswire.com/las-vegas-police-scanner-audio/
http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -shooters/

[Elizabeth]

Another one:

Driver 'deliberately mows down pedestrians after mounting the pavement outside London National History Museum before being pinned to the ground and arrested by police in front of stunned tourists'

[onefour1]

This video show me that the shooter wasn't on the 32nd floor and that the sounds of gunshot were coming from multiple areas.

[David13]

If you don't want to believe the police when they say he checked into the hotel on the 28th, then why believe the police when they say there was more than one shooter?
If they were mistaken about when he checked in, they why couldn't they be mistaken on how many shooters there were?
Does the fact that they, and the media were wrong about when he checked in indicate they were lying, or merely mistaken?
It doesn't matter when he checked into the hotel. It isn't relevant to much of anything. If he checked in on the 24th, 25th, 26th, or 30th doesn't matter. What matters is if he was there on the 1st. No one disputes that he was there on the first.
Alex Jones gets paid to present what he has. He sells pills or something, and has advertisers pay him. Good for him. He does this by raising doubts. And there are many doubts. On all sides. Doubts if he acted alone, doubts about his motive.
But doubt about when he checked in doesn't matter.
And not understanding how luggage is moved into hotel rooms doesn't matter either.

It obviously was moved in. And there is no evidence as to who did it. But to say it was impossible for Paddock to do it is nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense. I'm older and have taken as much luggage or more into hotel rooms and no one notice.

Now, let me state it again. I don't believe he acted alone. I don't believe he had help. I believe nothing so far. I have no conclusions at this time as the investigation is not complete.

You who are trying desperately to "sell" the idea of more than one shooter gain nothing, even if that's true. But so far you all are just far from proving anything.

Let me go back, what does it matter if he checked in on the 28th? Nothing. It is of no significance. If you believe it destroys the credibility or reliability of the LVMPD then you have no basis for believing they knew there were more than one shooter.

Maybe there were other shooters. Show me who they were, where they were, and show me people who can testify in a court of law about those shooters, then it becomes believable.

Til then it's all just wild speculation, feelings and I thinks, or i guesses.
dc

[kittycat51]

Is this similar to the conspiracy theorist's who said that airplanes did not fly into the trade centers or the Pentagon when we all watched airplanes fly into the trade centers and the Pentagon?

I have watched several video's of the supposed Boeing 757 that crashed into the Pentagon. Several don't show anything before, just the all of a sudden explosion. The "official video" that the government released of the Pentagon crash does show something blurry flying into the building but it is way to small to be a 757. (must have been a really talented pilot to fly a plane so low and hit at that speed of the supposed 500 mph) Also the "hole" left by the crash is way to small for the damage the wingspan of a 757 should make.

The conspiracy theories are mostly that 911 did occur, just the details surrounding it are not truthful. (Remember building 7? That should not have collapsed.) There was a 9/11 documentary that aired on PBS several years ago, called '9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out' It was produced by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, a courageous group of over 3,000 architects and engineers which has dared to ask hard questions about 9/11 and to present the disturbing hard evidence which does not line up with what the government/media has told everyone. In addition to these 3,000 architects and engineers who are calling for a new, impartial investigation of 9/11, over 1,000 government and military officials, professors, pilots, and 9/11 survivors and family members have publicly stated that the 9/11 Commission Report is fatally flawed.

[Army Of Truth]

If you don't want to believe the police when they say he checked into the hotel on the 28th, then why believe the police when they say there was more than one shooter? Because the police scanners are not prepared for public consumption. The media stories are prepped and prepared for PR and propaganda. I'd much sooner believe a real live audio/video of someone while the event happened, not some news parrot presstitute telling me their "official story" of what we should think.
If they were mistaken about when he checked in, they why couldn't they be mistaken on how many shooters there were? Because like I said before listen with your own ears. Anyone can hear MULTIPLE GUNS SHOOTING!!! You don't need a media parrot to tell you how many shooters there were!
Does the fact that they, and the media were wrong about when he checked in indicate they were lying, or merely mistaken? The media is wrong about a lot of things and have been caught telling lies multiple times on purpose to deceive us. I'm no longer surprised when I hear they admit they were wrong. Plus that is irrelevant to the many audio/video clips of MULTIPLE SHOOTERS proving they are lying once again!
It doesn't matter when he checked into the hotel. It isn't relevant to much of anything. If he checked in on the 24th, 25th, 26th, or 30th doesn't matter. What matters is if he was there on the 1st. No one disputes that he was there on the first.
Alex Jones gets paid to present what he has. He sells pills or something, and has advertisers pay him. Good for him. He does this by raising doubts. And there are many doubts. On all sides. Doubts if he acted alone, doubts about his motive.
But doubt about when he checked in doesn't matter.
And not understanding how luggage is moved into hotel rooms doesn't matter either. I agree!

It obviously was moved in. And there is no evidence as to who did it. But to say it was impossible for Paddock to do it is nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense. I'm older and have taken as much luggage or more into hotel rooms and no one notice.

Now, since there are some distinct reading comprehension problems for some people on this forum, let me state it again. I don't believe he acted alone. I don't believe he had help. I believe nothing so far. I have no conclusions at this time as the investigation is not complete.

You who are trying desperately to "sell" the idea of more than one shooter gain nothing, even if that's true. But so far you all are just comically far from proving anything.

Let me go back, what does it matter if he checked in on the 28th? Nothing. It is of no significance. If you believe it destroys the credibility or reliability of the LVMPD then you have no basis for believing they knew there were more than one shooter. By the way, this insignificant detail is irrelevant to me as the only fact I'm pushing that there were MULTIPLE SHOOTERS shooting MULTIPLE GUNS. If you refuse to believe that because the media tells you there was one "lone shooter" that's your prerogative.

Maybe there were other shooters. Show me who they were, where they were, and show me people who can testify in a court of law about those shooters, then it becomes believable. I'm asking the same question! Just because one can't find the shooter doesn't mean there wasn't any. Can you show me a person who can testify in court that they actually saw Stephen shooting out his hotel window? I'm still not even sold on that! Nor do I believe there ever will be conclusive evidence. Did they find the bullet size and make of the the bullet that he supposedly shot himself with? Have they found the evidence from the deceased people from their autopsy about what size bullets they were shot with? and from what angle? I'm still waiting to hear this if they ever will tell us these details.

Til then it's all just wild speculation, feelings and I thinks, or i guesses. I agree. Everything is speculation so far except the obvious MULTIPLE SHOOTERS! Anyone with ears to hear can hear multiple guns and even police scanners of police WHO WERE THERE hearing MULTIPLE SHOOTERS. I've even heard multiple veterans who have been shot at telling the same story that there were MULTIPLE GUN SHOTS. But again, don't believe what you hear on the live audio/video, let's listen to CNN telling us what we should believe.
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[David13]

If you don't want to believe the police when they say he checked into the hotel on the 28th, then why believe the police when they say there was more than one shooter? Because the police scanners are not prepared for public consumption. The media stories are prepped and prepared for PR and propaganda. I'd much sooner believe a real live audio/video of someone while the event happened, not some news parrot presstitute telling me their "official story" of what we should think.
If they were mistaken about when he checked in, they why couldn't they be mistaken on how many shooters there were? Because like I said before listen with your own ears. Anyone can hear MULTIPLE GUNS SHOOTING!!! You don't need a media parrot to tell you how many shooters there were!
Does the fact that they, and the media were wrong about when he checked in indicate they were lying, or merely mistaken? The media is wrong about a lot of things and have been caught telling lies multiple times on purpose to deceive us. I'm no longer surprised when I hear they admit they were wrong. Plus that is irrelevant to the many audio/video clips of MULTIPLE SHOOTERS proving they are lying once again!
It doesn't matter when he checked into the hotel. It isn't relevant to much of anything. If he checked in on the 24th, 25th, 26th, or 30th doesn't matter. What matters is if he was there on the 1st. No one disputes that he was there on the first.
Alex Jones gets paid to present what he has. He sells pills or something, and has advertisers pay him. Good for him. He does this by raising doubts. And there are many doubts. On all sides. Doubts if he acted alone, doubts about his motive.
But doubt about when he checked in doesn't matter.
And not understanding how luggage is moved into hotel rooms doesn't matter either. I agree!

It obviously was moved in. And there is no evidence as to who did it. But to say it was impossible for Paddock to do it is nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense. I'm older and have taken as much luggage or more into hotel rooms and no one notice.

Now, since there are some distinct reading comprehension problems for some people on this forum, let me state it again. I don't believe he acted alone. I don't believe he had help. I believe nothing so far. I have no conclusions at this time as the investigation is not complete.

You who are trying desperately to "sell" the idea of more than one shooter gain nothing, even if that's true. But so far you all are just comically far from proving anything.

Let me go back, what does it matter if he checked in on the 28th? Nothing. It is of no significance. If you believe it destroys the credibility or reliability of the LVMPD then you have no basis for believing they knew there were more than one shooter. By the way, this insignificant detail is irrelevant to me as the only fact I'm pushing that there were MULTIPLE SHOOTERS shooting MULTIPLE GUNS. If you refuse to believe that because the media tells you there was one "lone shooter" that's your prerogative.

Maybe there were other shooters. Show me who they were, where they were, and show me people who can testify in a court of law about those shooters, then it becomes believable. I'm asking the same question! Just because one can't find the shooter doesn't mean there wasn't any. Can you show me a person who can testify in court that they actually saw Stephen shooting out his hotel window? I'm still not even sold on that! Nor do I believe there ever will be conclusive evidence. Did they find the bullet size and make of the the bullet that he supposedly shot himself with? Have they found the evidence from the deceased people from their autopsy about what size bullets they were shot with? and from what angle? I'm still waiting to hear this if they ever will tell us these details.

Til then it's all just wild speculation, feelings and I thinks, or i guesses. I agree. Everything is speculation so far except the obvious MULTIPLE SHOOTERS! Anyone with ears to hear can hear multiple guns and even police scanners of police WHO WERE THERE hearing MULTIPLE SHOOTERS. I've even heard multiple veterans who have been shot at telling the same story that there were MULTIPLE GUN SHOTS. But again, don't believe what you hear on the live audio/video, let's listen to CNN telling us what we should believe.
dc

More speculation. How can I even know what the "media" is saying? I don't have a tv. I don't watch anything.

Let's listen to CNN you say? I'll say it again. I don't have a tv. And I don't go anywhere there is a tv. There are no places around here with tv. No airport, no sports bar, nothing.

Let me try to set you straight. There is no proof of anything yet. Including whether Paddock shot anyone at all. So why not wait til all, or at least some facts are in. Because someone says there were multiple shooters, but saw none does not mean there were multiple shooters.