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I am still thinking there is a good chance the economy can collapse in 2 months time.
Then there is:.....Antifa Plans Nationwide Anarchy On November 4th in USA.
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This is what the Trump legacy will be. The party that pretends to be for small government has become a bunch of big government warmongers.

http://news.antiwar.com/2017/09/15/gall ... rth-korea/

Gallup Poll: US Majority Backs Attacking North Korea

Jason Ditz Posted on September 15, 2017

A new poll from Gallup shows that a majority of Americans, 58%, are in favor of attacking North Korea militarily if the US “cannot accomplish its goals by more peaceful means first.” Americans were split more or less evenly on whether sanctions and diplomacy could work.

This is the first time Gallup has asked about attacking North Korea since 2003. At the time, only 47% favored an attack. The shift in the last 14 years appears to have been greatly along political lines, with an overwhelming 82% of Republicans now backing war, compared to just 37% of Democrats.

The possibility of such an attack has been discussed a lot more this year than any time in decades. Repeated North Korean tests have been presented as a growing threat to the US mainland, with the Trump Administration declaring diplomacy a failure from the start.

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I spent several weeks in Germany, Italy and Holland this spring. It was interesting how many citizens of those countries brought up Trump and Obama when they found out we were Americans. With one exception they all expressed hatred of Obama and excitement with Trump. They really hated Obama.

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There are many prophecies out there that the US dollar becomes as week as water, if one considers the debt over $20T or 105% for GDP and a budget deficit of over $400bn .- the interest alone is going to sink the US gov.

Now many countries are ditching the US dollar, if the dollar looses it status as the reserve currency then then all the prophecies get played out in front of our eyes.

Suddenly, "De-Dollarization" Is A Thing
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-1 ... tion-thing

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Spaced_Out wrote: September 16th, 2017, 3:49 pm There are many prophecies out there that the US dollar becomes as week as water, if one considers the debt over $20T or 105% for GDP and a budget deficit of over $400bn .- the interest alone is going to sink the US gov.

Now many countries are ditching the US dollar, if the dollar looses it status as the reserve currency then then all the prophecies get played out in front of our eyes.

Suddenly, "De-Dollarization" Is A Thing
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-1 ... tion-thing
Guess who most of that debt is owed to... US Citizens.

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mirkwood wrote: September 16th, 2017, 10:23 am I spent several weeks in Germany, Italy and Holland this spring. It was interesting how many citizens of those countries brought up Trump and Obama when they found out we were Americans. With one exception they all expressed hatred of Obama and excitement with Trump. They really hated Obama.
Yet Obama worked harder for them than he did for us, but maybe he went to French Polynesia to work on his memoirs and may become one of the first seasteaders, as that's where they're looking to set-up shop. Ironically the only language they recognize is English, at least on their Internet forum.

A pilot on approach in Germany, issues a radio call requesting clearance to land, only to hear "Lufthansa 4711, say again your request, this time in English", to which the pilot :x angrily replies "I'm a German Citizen flying a German Airplane into a German Airport, why canst I speakem zee duetch? Only to hear someone with a British accent say "Because You Lost The Bloody War". :evil:

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Durzan wrote: September 17th, 2017, 6:08 am
Spaced_Out wrote: September 16th, 2017, 3:49 pm There are many prophecies out there that the US dollar becomes as week as water, if one considers the debt over $20T or 105% for GDP and a budget deficit of over $400bn .- the interest alone is going to sink the US gov.

Now many countries are ditching the US dollar, if the dollar looses it status as the reserve currency then then all the prophecies get played out in front of our eyes.

Suddenly, "De-Dollarization" Is A Thing
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-1 ... tion-thing
Guess who most of that debt is owed to... US Citizens.
I think US citizens is only a quarter with another quarter owned by US companies the reaming half is foreign governments.

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Spaced_Out wrote: September 18th, 2017, 3:03 am
Durzan wrote: September 17th, 2017, 6:08 am
Spaced_Out wrote: September 16th, 2017, 3:49 pm There are many prophecies out there that the US dollar becomes as week as water, if one considers the debt over $20T or 105% for GDP and a budget deficit of over $400bn .- the interest alone is going to sink the US gov.

Now many countries are ditching the US dollar, if the dollar looses it status as the reserve currency then then all the prophecies get played out in front of our eyes.

Suddenly, "De-Dollarization" Is A Thing
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-1 ... tion-thing
Guess who most of that debt is owed to... US Citizens.
I think US citizens is only a quarter with another quarter owned by US companies the remaining half is foreign governments.
Durzan, please read the entire article at the link. (I'm sharing just a portion.) It explains why "owing the debt to ourselves" is not really true, nor is it a sound principle.

https://mises.org/library/repudiating-national-debt

"Before the Reagan era, conservatives were clear about how they felt about deficits and the public debt: a balanced budget was good, and deficits and the public debt were bad, piled up by free-spending Keynesians and socialists, who absurdly proclaimed that there was nothing wrong or onerous about the public debt. In the famous words of the left-Keynesian apostle of "functional finance," Professor Abba Lernr, there is nothing wrong with the public debt because "we owe it to ourselves." In those days, at least, conservatives were astute enough to realize that it made an enormous amount of difference whether — slicing through the obfuscatory collective nouns — one is a member of the "we" (the burdened taxpayer) or of the "ourselves" (those living off the proceeds of taxation).

Since Reagan, however, intellectual-political life has gone topsy-turvy. Conservatives and allegedly "free-market" economists have turned handsprings trying to find new reasons why "deficits don't matter," why we should all relax and enjoy the process. Perhaps the most absurd argument of Reaganomists was that we should not worry about growing public debt because it is being matched on the federal balance sheet by an expansion of public "assets." Here was a new twist on free-market macroeconomics: things are going well because the value of government assets is rising! In that case, why not have the government nationalize all assets outright? Reaganomists, indeed, came up with every conceivable argument for the public debt except the phrase of Abba Lerner, and I am convinced that they did not recycle that phrase because it would be difficult to sustain with a straight face at a time when foreign ownership of the national debt is skyrocketing. Even apart from foreign ownership, it is far more difficult to sustain the Lerner thesis than before; in the late 1930s, when Lerner enunciated his thesis, total federal interest payments on the public debt were $1 billion; now they have zoomed to $200 billion, the third-largest item in the federal budget, after the military and Social Security: the "we" are looking ever shabbier compared to the "ourselves."

To think sensibly about the public debt, we first have to go back to first principles and consider debt in general. Put simply, a credit transaction occurs when C, the creditor, transfers a sum of money (say $1,000) to D, the debtor, in exchange for a promise that D will repay C in a year's time the principal plus interest. If the agreed interest rate on the transaction is 10 percent, then the debtor obligates himself to pay in a year's time $1,100 to the creditor. This repayment completes the transaction, which in contrast to a regular sale, takes place over time.

So far, it is clear that there is nothing "wrong" with private debt. As with any private trade or exchange on the market, both parties to the exchange benefit, and no one loses. But suppose that the debtor is foolish, gets himself in over his head, and then finds that he can't repay the sum he had agreed on? This, of course is a risk incurred by debt, and the debtor had better keep his debts down to what he can surely repay. But this is not a problem of debt alone. Any consumer may spend foolishly; a man may blow his entire paycheck on an expensive trinket and then find that he can't feed his family. So consumer foolishness is hardly a problem confined to debt alone. But there is one crucial difference: if a man gets in over his head and he can't pay, the creditor suffers too, because the debtor has failed to return the creditor's property. In a profound sense, the debtor who fails to repay the $1,100 owed to the creditor has stolen property that belongs to the creditor; we have here not simply a civil debt, but a tort, an aggression against another's property." (close quote)

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mirkwood wrote: September 16th, 2017, 10:23 am I spent several weeks in Germany, Italy and Holland this spring. It was interesting how many citizens of those countries brought up Trump and Obama when they found out we were Americans. With one exception they all expressed hatred of Obama and excitement with Trump. They really hated Obama.
I can believe that. The U.S. Media is always going to show the leftist view of things no matter where they are, but it doesn't surprise me that there are still people around the world who realize we're still, at least to some degree, the USofA. The good still comes with the bad.

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Silver wrote: September 15th, 2017, 2:35 pm For those who want to pretend that Trump is somehow better than Hillary:
I don't pretend it: I proclaim it loudly as an article of faith for me. This will still be prefaced with how poorly I thought of (and still mainly think of) Trump, but waking up finding out the hildabeast lost is still a wildly wonderful feeling.

Waking up Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016 and turning on my computer was like being in the ebola section of the hospital in Kinshasa and finding out the fever you have is actually food poisoning. You know you're still going to vomit and probably have diarrhea, but you're not going to bleed out of every bodily opening and die a crushing, other-worldly painful death within a week.

This is still worth watching:
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skmo wrote: September 19th, 2017, 1:15 am
Silver wrote: September 15th, 2017, 2:35 pm For those who want to pretend that Trump is somehow better than Hillary:
I don't pretend it: I proclaim it loudly as an article of faith for me. This will still be prefaced with how poorly I thought of (and still mainly think of) Trump, but waking up finding out the hildabeast lost is still a wildly wonderful feeling.

Waking up Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016 and turning on my computer was like being in the ebola section of the hospital in Kinshasa and finding out the fever you have is actually food poisoning. You know you're still going to vomit and probably have diarrhea, but you're not going to bleed out of every bodily opening and die a crushing, other-worldly painful death within a week.

This is still worth watching:
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That vid is like people saying nothing is going to happen and then will be eating their words....

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Do you Trump supporters remember that auspicious day when you entered the polling booth, pulled the curtain shut behind you and with a prayer in your mind, pushed the button for President Jared Kushner? It was a thrilling day for you, I'm sure, especially knowing how George Soros gave Kushner over $200 million. What reverence, what joy must have filled your heart that day knowing you had gone full Gadianton. (Hint for the rest of you: Never go full Gadianton.)

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Because Gadiantons always stick together.

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Tillerson, Mattis, Mnuchin forge 'suicide pact' in the event Trump wants one of them gone: Report
by Melissa Quinn | Oct 4, 2017, 4:34 PM


Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly have forged a "suicide pact" in which all three members of President Trump's Cabinet would leave if one of them becomes a target of the president.

News of the agreement surfaced amid renewed questions about Tillerson's future in the administration.

The secretary of state has frequently clashed with Trump, and NBC News reported Wednesday that Tillerson threatened to resign in July after the president's controversial speech to the Boy Scouts.

Tillerson, who served as national president of the Boy Scouts from 2010 to 2012, was said to be upset with Trump's speech, which many criticized as too political. After the address, the secretary of state reportedly threatened not to return to Washington from his son's wedding in Texas, but Mattis and then-Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly talked him out of it. Kelly is now White House chief of staff.

A U.S. official told BuzzFeed that Tillerson would likely remain in the administration because of his agreement with Mnuchin and Mattis.

Tillerson sought to quiet any rumors about an impending resignation Wednesday morning, saying he has never considered leaving his post.

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Because Trump is a master negotiator and knows how to assemble the best team EVAH!!! And he did it bigly.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-0 ... mp-deepens

In summary, the list of senior administration officials that have been shown the door is already disconcertingly long. The list includes:

Tom Price
Sebastian Gorka
Steve Bannon
Anthony Scaramucci
Reince Priebus
Sean Spicer
Michael Dubke
Walter Shaub
James Comey
Michael Flynn
Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
Katie Walsh
Mark Corralo
Michael Short

… Will Tillersons’ be the next name added to this list? Or will this pass, much like the rumors that Trump intended to get rid of Jeff Sessions only to have his mind changed in the last moment? Or will Tillerson invoke the "suicide pact" he reportedly made with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Secretary of Defense James Mattis?

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Spaced_Out wrote: September 18th, 2017, 3:03 am I think US citizens is only a quarter with another quarter owned by US companies the reaming half is foreign governments.
Foreign holdings in the US Debt as of 2014 was 34% of the total overall debt.

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Silver wrote: October 6th, 2017, 6:40 am In summary, the list of senior administration officials that have been shown the door is already disconcertingly long. The list includes:

Tom Price
Sebastian Gorka
Steve Bannon
Anthony Scaramucci
Reince Priebus
Sean Spicer
Michael Dubke
Walter Shaub
James Comey
Michael Flynn
Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
Katie Walsh
Mark Corralo
Michael Short
You insinuate that Trump is every bit as bad as the hildabeast. Answer me this: How many people on that list have been killed in a "robbery" when the robber's didn't actually take anything of value from the victim like happened with Seth Rich? How many committed suicide though none of their families or friends knew they were depressed?

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Yeah, what we really need is a spook running the State Department. The mask is off and Trump supporters have no integrity.

As for the quaint little non-conundrum proposed above, the answer is, always, don't vote for the lesser of two evils. Let me see...do I want to follow Nehor or Korihor? Hmmm....

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Will CIA Director Mike Pompeo Replace Rex Tillerson As Secretary Of State?

by Tyler Durden
Oct 6, 2017 9:07 AM

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson rushed to an impromptu meeting at the White House yesterday to discuss "a path forward" with White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis as rumors swirled that President Donald Trump - infuriated by reports that Tillerson called him a "@#$!%&! moron" - is weighing whether to fire the former ExxonMobil CEO. And in the latest installation in the ongoing leakfest over Tillerson's purported "disloyalty," Axios is reporting that the White House already has a candidate in mind to replace Tillerson, and surprisingly it's not the "logical" choice of UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

Trump advisers and allies are floating the idea of replacing Tillerson with CIA Director Mike Pompeo, reasoning that he's already familiar with the situation room, and could feasibly make the switch without much of a disruption.

Axios reports that Trump is comfortable with Pompeo and has sought his advice on topics ranging from immigration to dealing with Congress. Pompeo personally delivers the President's Daily Brief, making him one of the few people Trump spends a great deal of time with on a daily basis. Pompeo is also reportedly one of the few in the administration who knows how to convey tough news to the president, and how to push back without turning off Trump. It's also believed that Pompeo, formerly a Congressman from Kansas, would accept the job. Trump reportedly doesn't see Pompeo as a "showboat", which is Trump-speak for a--hole.

But perhaps most importantly, Axios reports that Pompeo possess a "credibility" that Tillerson lacks. It's widely known by world leaders that Pompeo is a part of the Trump "inner circle". Tillerson, meanwhile, has always been viewed as an outsider in the administration. Sources tell Axios that Trump knows that a reshuffle would bring trigger an avalanche of bad press - something that Kelly is trying hard to avoid. After the rash of high-profile firings this year, Kelly is hoping to put off further dismissals until at least next year.

Axios claims the relationship between Trump and Tillerson is broken beyond repair, due largely to the president's perception that Tillerson didn't try hard enough to blunt "moron-gate" (we guess holding an impromptu press conference specifically to deny the story and praise the president as "smart" just didn't cut it). Regardless of whether Tillerson actually said it, the lackluster response was, in the end, more damning than the alleged act of disloyalty.

Furthermore, Trump reportely seethed with rage after seeing media coverage on Wednesday and Thursday focusing on the Tillerson scandal, overshadowing his own "successful" trip to meet with and console victims of the Las Vegas shooting.

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Silver wrote: October 6th, 2017, 7:17 am Yeah, what we really need is a spook running the State Department. The mask is off and Trump supporters have no integrity.
Not only is that statement wildly over-simplified, it's just plain arrogant and wrong. People have different ideas they look at, they see things from a vastly different viewpoint depending on their experiences. I was not a Trump supporter clear up until the morning of November 9, 2016, at which time it became my duty to support the democratically elected leader of our government. It doesn't mean I agree with him (I think he's quite foolish) but it does mean that he's due the respect the office gives him. You have to find some strange people who hated Obama more than I did, but while he was the President it was my duty to respect his office of authority.

Brigham Young was a big supporter of slavery and the inferiority of blacks. Does he have no integrity?

I have friends who are big Trump supporters. They may lack my perspective, (as I do theirs) and they may see different issues, but that doesn't mean they have no integrity. You're really being quite insulting to people by being so arrogant.

Your seething hatred of Trump, which I think is, surprisingly, even greater than my hatred of the hildabeast is your business, but if you feel you have to wave it around under people's noses, you're just making yourself look foolish. You provide good examples of things you disagree with him about. That's good.

Then you go off the deep end and slander people who don't hate as strongly a you do. It's a free country. You're allowed to make yourself look as foolish as you want. Do you think you'll convince anyone why your ideas are correct if you call them names if they don't believe the same way you do?
As for the quaint little non-conundrum proposed above, the answer is, always, don't vote for the lesser of two evils. Let me see...do I want to follow Nehor or Korihor? Hmmm....
You realistically only have two choices. You can choose to not vote (voting for Johnson or Castle or McMuffin or Stein is functionally the same as choosing to not vote) but the choice is going to be made with or without you.

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I just love how tap dancers can tap dance away reality.

It was Trump that nominated a bunch of CFR for his administration, not Obama, not Hillary, and not even me just so I could point out that Trump is surrounded by the CFR. (For the novices in the reading audience, CFR = Gadiantons.)

It is Trump that agreed to sell more weapons to the evil House of Saud, not me, Trump thereby condemning more innocent people to death in Yemen.

It is Trump who is considering which Gadianton to select for the next Federal Reserve head instead of abolishing that evil institution, a la Andrew Jackson, not me.

And so on...

Yet little ol' me is the one who gets attacked. Like I said, no integrity.

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Silver wrote: October 6th, 2017, 8:26 am For the novices in the reading audience, CFR = Gadiantons.
I am amused how casually members here so blithely assign the title of "Gadianton" to groups they don't like. The CFR may or may not be Gads. The Fed may or may not be filled with Gads. The top leaders in the CIA, FBI, NSA, or BSA might be Gads, I have no idea. The Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commission, Skull and Bones, the guy who holds the original KFC recipe, Bohemian Grove, Creators of South Park (although they come from Colorado, I don't believe it about them) Freemasons, Barry Manilow, the whole thing is something we have no real clue about.

Two things about the Gadianton Robbers, first: They're been around for thousands of years, and they were good at keeping secrets before Christ came. They're going to be almost perfect about it now, so there's a reason they're called secret societies. I've little doubt that some of the above groups would have members of a secret society among them, but I don't believe any of them would be an organized society of "Gadianton Robbers" as a whole group, as it would go against the whole 'secret' thing. Second: I'd be willing to bet there are many different groups, loosely allied but not necessarily always working together. Someone as simple as a portfolio manager knows the value and need to diversify, I think the father of lies would instruct his followers in doing that also.
Yet little ol' me is the one who gets attacked. Like I said, no integrity.
When someone tells me I'm acting foolishly, I don't figure it's an attack: I presume (unless they're a known enemy or idiot, I can sincerely say you're neither of those to me, and I would hope you don't consider me an enemy, though you're welcome to think I'm an idiot, I do at times) anyway, I presume they're trying to tell me something they think could be helpful for me to hear. I don't have to agree with them, but at least it gives me an outside perspective about how my actions are being viewed by others. I do value my own opinion more than anyone else's, but that doesn't mean I don't value others at all.

You have some very good, very valid points about Trump. Clearly I don't hate him as much as you do, but I've been one of his most vocal critics on these boards since he announced his (joking, we assumed) candidacy for President. However, your rabid method of attacks isn't going to get anyone to take your views any more seriously. I understand the vitriol you have for him, because I have it for the hildabeast.

However, you've got little case for denigrating others for their beliefs. No integrity? That's a fairly offensive thing to say about people just because they see things differently than you do. It means your opinion is the only one you believe to be valid. Hubris is not an attractive quality in a follower of Christ. Courage and strength in your convictions is fine, but to demean someone else because their opinion differs from yours is asinine. My own father is a very strong supporter of Trump, and if you want to try telling me my father has no integrity, well then you and I will have a serious problem. I think he's wrong, and I attribute it to the dramatically diminishing mental faculties I see him exhibiting (which saddens me greatly) but my father is a man who has healed with his Priesthood, he's commanded elements with his Priesthood in his day. He does not in any way lack for integrity.

I say again - your choice of words makes you look foolish.

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What Silver said: "Yet little ol' me is the one who gets attacked. Like I said, no integrity."

If he were a public official who liked Trump - what the media would say he said: "Yet little ol' me...no integrity."

I guess what bugs me is I really researched the tactics used by anti-Mormons in their literature years ago when I joined the Church. Now I see the media doing the same with Trump; and some people, even the more "elect," falling for it. Yes, I believe some of the people who attack Trump here in the forums are probably really nice people but for some reason have been convinced they should hate Trump.

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skmo wrote: October 6th, 2017, 11:29 am
Silver wrote: October 6th, 2017, 8:26 am For the novices in the reading audience, CFR = Gadiantons.
I am amused how casually members here so blithely assign the title of "Gadianton" to groups they don't like. The CFR may or may not be Gads. The Fed may or may not be filled with Gads. The top leaders in the CIA, FBI, NSA, or BSA might be Gads, I have no idea. The Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commission, Skull and Bones, the guy who holds the original KFC recipe, Bohemian Grove, Creators of South Park (although they come from Colorado, I don't believe it about them) Freemasons, Barry Manilow, the whole thing is something we have no real clue about.

Two things about the Gadianton Robbers, first: They're been around for thousands of years, and they were good at keeping secrets before Christ came. They're going to be almost perfect about it now, so there's a reason they're called secret societies. I've little doubt that some of the above groups would have members of a secret society among them, but I don't believe any of them would be an organized society of "Gadianton Robbers" as a whole group, as it would go against the whole 'secret' thing. Second: I'd be willing to bet there are many different groups, loosely allied but not necessarily always working together. Someone as simple as a portfolio manager knows the value and need to diversify, I think the father of lies would instruct his followers in doing that also.
Yet little ol' me is the one who gets attacked. Like I said, no integrity.
When someone tells me I'm acting foolishly, I don't figure it's an attack: I presume (unless they're a known enemy or idiot, I can sincerely say you're neither of those to me, and I would hope you don't consider me an enemy, though you're welcome to think I'm an idiot, I do at times) anyway, I presume they're trying to tell me something they think could be helpful for me to hear. I don't have to agree with them, but at least it gives me an outside perspective about how my actions are being viewed by others. I do value my own opinion more than anyone else's, but that doesn't mean I don't value others at all.

You have some very good, very valid points about Trump. Clearly I don't hate him as much as you do, but I've been one of his most vocal critics on these boards since he announced his (joking, we assumed) candidacy for President. However, your rabid method of attacks isn't going to get anyone to take your views any more seriously. I understand the vitriol you have for him, because I have it for the hildabeast.

However, you've got little case for denigrating others for their beliefs. No integrity? That's a fairly offensive thing to say about people just because they see things differently than you do. It means your opinion is the only one you believe to be valid. Hubris is not an attractive quality in a follower of Christ. Courage and strength in your convictions is fine, but to demean someone else because their opinion differs from yours is asinine. My own father is a very strong supporter of Trump, and if you want to try telling me my father has no integrity, well then you and I will have a serious problem. I think he's wrong, and I attribute it to the dramatically diminishing mental faculties I see him exhibiting (which saddens me greatly) but my father is a man who has healed with his Priesthood, he's commanded elements with his Priesthood in his day. He does not in any way lack for integrity.

I say again - your choice of words makes you look foolish.
Silver is just trolling. His judgments, accusations, and opinion pieces are meaningless. Classic fallacious reasoning and trolling.

In other words, it means nothing to anyone to have this poster called Silver accuse one of being a murderer, or a Gadianton, or whatever.

-Finrock

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Re: Less than two months...

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Finrock wrote: October 6th, 2017, 1:11 pmSilver is just trolling. His judgments, accusations, and opinion pieces are meaningless. Classic fallacious reasoning and trolling.

In other words, it means nothing to anyone to have this poster called Silver accuse one of being a murderer, or a Gadianton, or whatever.

-Finrock
Et tu, Finrock? Thanks for the powerful counter-trolling laugh.

Except Trump really is surrounded by the CFR. And Trump really is selling weapons to the Saudis. And Trump really is allowing the Federal Reserve to make debt slaves out of us. But other than that I hear he's a great guy, low golf handicap and all that.

My, how the children of the covenant have learned to deny reality.

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Re: Less than two months...

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Silver wrote: October 6th, 2017, 1:35 pm
Finrock wrote: October 6th, 2017, 1:11 pmSilver is just trolling. His judgments, accusations, and opinion pieces are meaningless. Classic fallacious reasoning and trolling.

In other words, it means nothing to anyone to have this poster called Silver accuse one of being a murderer, or a Gadianton, or whatever.

-Finrock
Et tu, Finrock? Thanks for the powerful counter-trolling laugh.

Except Trump really is surrounded by the CFR. And Trump really is selling weapons to the Saudis. And Trump really is allowing the Federal Reserve to make debt slaves out of us. But other than that I hear he's a great guy, low golf handicap and all that.

My, how the children of the covenant have learned to deny reality.
It's just funny that people are worried about you calling them Gadiantons, or a murderer. Its so silly that its hard for me to believe that someone would be phased by such words from some dude/gal on the internet. Anyways, just letting people know that because Silver thinks they are a murderer or Gadianton, or whatever, means about zero in real life; its not worth responding to; it is valueless, useless, pointless, absurd, etc.

-Finrock

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Re: Less than two months...

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Finrock wrote: October 6th, 2017, 1:47 pm
Silver wrote: October 6th, 2017, 1:35 pm
Finrock wrote: October 6th, 2017, 1:11 pmSilver is just trolling. His judgments, accusations, and opinion pieces are meaningless. Classic fallacious reasoning and trolling.

In other words, it means nothing to anyone to have this poster called Silver accuse one of being a murderer, or a Gadianton, or whatever.

-Finrock
Et tu, Finrock? Thanks for the powerful counter-trolling laugh.

Except Trump really is surrounded by the CFR. And Trump really is selling weapons to the Saudis. And Trump really is allowing the Federal Reserve to make debt slaves out of us. But other than that I hear he's a great guy, low golf handicap and all that.

My, how the children of the covenant have learned to deny reality.
It's just funny that people are worried about you calling them Gadiantons, or a murderer. Its so silly that its hard for me to believe that someone would be phased by such words from some dude/gal on the internet. Anyways, just letting people know that because Silver thinks they are a murderer or Gadianton, or whatever, means about zero in real life; its not worth responding to; it is valueless, useless, pointless, absurd, etc.

-Finrock
Of course, you realize how it makes me smile when you respond as above all the while telling people not to respond. Couldn't follow your own advice? LOL.

I also note that you're good at ignoring the factual charges against Trump. If it makes you feel better, I'll change my accusation against Trump. He's not a Gadianton obviously since he is alive now, but he is a part of the secret combination that Moroni warned us about in Ether.

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