Jesus, not Michael was Adam

[Michael Sherwin]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

1Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last (man) Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: ...

Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


The FIRST man ADAM fell. The LAST man ADAM (will) undo the fall. Michael, "who is like God" is not in the express image of God's likeness. Adam was in the express image of God's likeness. Jesus was in the express image of God's likeness! Adam is the father of all humanity.

Psalm 22:9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

Psalm 22:10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

Adam became a living soul. The soul is what is sown in us at birth.

15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

1Corinthians 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Our soul is not the body that shall be.

1Corinthians 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

Our soul bears grain, wheat or some other grain. It is this seed, the seed of the woman, the kingdom of God within, the Christ within us that receives resurrection.

1Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

The seed is produced by our soul which comes from our parents which comes from Adam and Eve.

"thou art my God from my mother's belly"

The seed is the Christ within and comes from the soul which came from the generations of Adam.

Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

The Spirit of Christ Jesus was in Adam. We come from Adam. The Christ Spirit (our soul) comes down from Adam to his progeny.

1Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

The physical is necessary to propagate the spiritual.

1Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

We are first of the earth and from the earthly comes the second man (seed given a new body) which is the actual substance of the Lord from heaven. This can only come from Adam if Jesus was Adam. It cannot come from Michael. Jesus is our God from our mother's belly because Jesus was Adam!

[SettingDogStar]

That’s one way to look at it

[Michael Sherwin]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

1Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last (man) Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: ...

Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


The FIRST man ADAM fell. The LAST man ADAM (will) undo the fall. Michael, "who is like God" is not in the express image of God's likeness. Adam was in the express image of God's likeness. Jesus was in the express image of God's likeness! Adam is the father of all humanity.

Psalm 22:9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

Psalm 22:10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

Adam became a living soul. The soul is what is sown in us at birth.

15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

1Corinthians 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Our soul is not the body that shall be.

1Corinthians 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

Our soul bears grain, wheat or some other grain. It is this seed, the seed of the woman, the kingdom of God within, the Christ within us that receives resurrection.

1Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

The seed is produced by our soul which comes from our parents which comes from Adam and Eve.

"thou art my God from my mother's belly"

The seed is the Christ within and comes from the soul which came from the generations of Adam.

Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

The Spirit of Christ Jesus was in Adam. We come from Adam. The Christ Spirit (our soul) comes down from Adam to his progeny.

1Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

The physical is necessary to propagate the spiritual.

1Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

We are first of the earth and from the earthly comes the second man (seed given a new body) which is the actual substance of the Lord from heaven. This can only come from Adam if Jesus was Adam. It cannot come from Michael. Jesus is our God from our mother's belly because Jesus was Adam!

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.


Adam was lit by that light. That light lights every man because it comes from the Christ Spirit that was in Adam that is propagated down through generations to us. Christ was in the bosom of the Father at the "beginning" Which means when God fashioned the clay of the earth into Adam and breathed life into him it was the Christ Spirit that was breathed into Adam because it is the Christ Spirit that lights every man. When God breathed life into Adam that is when Christ separated from the Father and went into Adam. God did not breath Michael into Adam. God breathed Jesus into Adam. I don't think anything can be more plain than that. Jesus, not Michael was Adam!

[BeNotDeceived]

A + B = a living soul. B is Body; what word begins with A ???

Hint, it also ends with A and only has 5 letters from a 12 letter alphabet.

Many don't realize how well the deeper meaning of A---A fits.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Click either blue text to check your answer.

[Michael Sherwin]

A + B = a living soul. B is Body; what word begins with A ???

Hint, it also ends with A and only has 5 letters from a 12 letter alphabet.

Many don't realize how well the deeper meaning of A---A fits.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Click either blue text to check your answer.

I got it right! But then again I did spend two years in Hawaii! I used to have an English-Hawaiian dictionary. I wish that I still had it because then I could look up Alo and Ha to find out the true meaning. I know it is used for hello and goodbye but that could be an oversimplification for English speaking people.

[Michael Sherwin]

A + B = a living soul. B is Body; what word begins with A ???

Hint, it also ends with A and only has 5 letters from a 12 letter alphabet.

Many don't realize how well the deeper meaning of A---A fits.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Click either blue text to check your answer.

I got it right! But then again I did spend two years in Hawaii! I used to have an English-Hawaiian dictionary. I wish that I still had it because then I could look up Alo and Ha to find out the true meaning. I know it is used for hello and goodbye but that could be an oversimplification for English speaking people.

aloha
nvt., nvs. Aloha, love, affection, compassion, mercy, sympathy, pity, kindness, sentiment, grace, charity; greeting, salutation, regards; sweetheart, lover, loved one; beloved, loving, kind, compassionate, charitable, lovable; to love, be fond of; to show kindness, mercy, pity, charity, affection; to venerate; to remember with affection; to greet, hail. Greetings! Hello! Good-by! Farewell! Alas! The common greetings follow: Aloha ʻoe, may you be loved or greeted, greetings (to one person). Aloha kāua, may there be friendship or love between us, greetings (to one person); dear Sir. Aloha kākou, same as above, but to more than one person. Ke aloha nō! Aloha! Greetings! (The nō may be prolonged for emphasis.) (Gram. 4.6) The following greetings were introduced after European times; Aloha ahiahi, good evening. Aloha kakahiaka, good morning. Cf. aloha ʻāina, hanaaloha. Aloha aliʻi, royalist, royal love. Aloha ʻino! What a pity! Alas! [Expression of regret, either great or small.] Aloha akua, love of god; divine love, pity, charity. Mea aloha, loved one, beloved. Aloha makua, considerate and thoughtful of parents and elders, filial. Aloha ʻia, beloved, pitied. Aloha pumehana, warm aloha, affection. Me ke aloha o Ka-wena, with the love (or greeting) of Ka-wena. ʻO wau iho nō me ke aloha, I remain, with very best regards. Aloha ʻoe, ē Maria, ua piha ʻoe i ka maikaʻi, hail, Mary, full of grace. Ē Maria hemolele, e aloha mai ʻoe iā mākou, Holy Mary, have mercy on us. Aloha aʻe ana mākou i ke ehu wāwae o ka lani (chant for Ka-lā-kaua), we remember fondly the footprints of the king. E aloha aku au i ka mea aʻu e manaʻo ai e aloha aku (Puk. 33.19), I show mercy tothose I want to show mercy to. Aloha nō ia mau lā o nā makahiki he kanalima i kūnewa akula! Affectionate [memories] of these days of fifty years past! hō.aloha Rare var. of hoʻālohaloha. Cf. hoaloha. (PPN ʻalofa.)

ʻalo
1. vt. To dodge, evade, elude, avoid. ʻAlo ʻana, dodging, avoidance, oversight, omission. ʻAʻole e hiki ke alo aʻe, it canʻt be helped. hō.ʻalo To shun, dodge, avoid, escape, omit, skip; omission; to alternate or place irregularly, as strips of thatch (For. 5:651). (PPN kalo.)

2. vt. To be with, come near, go with, attend, escort, accompany, share an experience, endure, resist. Kuʻu hoa ʻalo i ke anu, my companion who shared the cold. Kū ana ʻo Mauna Loa, kuahiwi ʻalo ehuehu (song), stands Mauna Loa, mountain that resists storms. E ʻalo aʻe ʻoe iā mākou ā hiki aku i Molokaʻi (FS 267), escort us to Molokaʻi.

haʻa (same as ha)
1. nvs. Low; dwarf; man or animal of short stature. hoʻo.haʻa To lower; humble. See the more common hoʻohaʻahaʻa. (PNP saka.)

2. n. A dance with bent knees; dancing (1 Sam. 18.6); called hula after mid 1800s. (PPN saka.)

3. n. A short variety of banana.

So the deeper meaning of aloha is to approach or leave with humility. So one native Hawaiian approaching another native Hawaiian would signal friendly intent by saying aloha and the second would signal acceptance by repeating it back. Then it just became a standard greeting and came to mean a whole bunch of things.

So please tell me if the deeper meaning of aloha that you are referring too is anywhere in the above definitions.

[LittleNipper]

Neither Michael nor Jesus were Adam. Michael didn't sin and is still a part of GOD's angelic entourage (not a fallen angel). And Jesus is the Messiah/Christ (GOD with us). GOD cannot sin. Adam sinned by disobeying GOD bringing sin into the world.

Adam and GOD share a triune existence (Body, Soul and Spirit). Christ is the only being of the GODHEAD (Body, Soul, Spirit) who has ever assumed a bodily form. Christ is the one who walked in the garden with Adam in the cool of the day. If Christ walked with Adam he cannot be Adam. If Christ sinned, he would need salvation and would be unable to save.

When Adam sinned the spirit within him became separated from GOD (immediate spiritual death). An unredeemed person possesses the spirit controlled by the evil one. When a person becomes saved, the Holy Spirit comes and indwells that individual. That person can still sin (because of his nature); however, once death comes, he is totally transformed (his second nature takes over completely), and is saved from eternal separation from God because of his renewed relationship through Christ.

Auf Wiedersehen

[Michael Sherwin]

Neither Michael nor Jesus were Adam. Michael didn't sin and is still a part of GOD's angelic entourage (not a fallen angel). And Jesus is the Messiah/Christ (GOD with us). GOD cannot sin. Adam sinned by disobeying GOD bringing sin into the world.

Adam and GOD share a triune existence (Body, Soul and Spirit). Christ is the only being of the GODHEAD (Body, Soul, Spirit) who has ever assumed a bodily form. Christ is the one who walked in the garden with Adam in the cool of the day. If Christ walked with Adam he cannot be Adam. If Christ sinned, he would need salvation and would be unable to save.

When Adam sinned the spirit within him became separated from GOD (immediate spiritual death). An unredeemed person possesses the spirit controlled by the evil one. When a person becomes saved, the Holy Spirit comes and indwells that individual. That person can still sin (because of his nature); however, once death comes, he is totally transformed (his second nature takes over completely), and is saved from eternal separation from God because of his renewed relationship through Christ.

Auf Wiedersehen

Yes God walked with Adam. God walked with Enoch. God walked with Elijah. You might say, 'God walked in their shoes'. And while it is not possible for the Spirit within a man to sin it is possible for the man to sin and diminish the Spirit and for the Spirit to leave. I guess that I was not clear enough. The Spirit of Christ was in Adam. The Spirit of Christ was in Jesus. Adam was Jesus in the sense that they were both indwelt by the same Christ Spirit. But they are not the same person, exactly. There is the Spirit of Christ and there are seven other Spirits of the Father. Michael and Gabriel are the highest of those Spirits of God. The others remain unnamed in the Bible. I have seen very long, detailed and convincing studies that say Elijah was indwelt by the Spirit of Michael. That John the baptist was indwelt by the Spirit of Michael. And that the Elijah of the end times will be indwelt by the Spirit of Michael. When any of the seven (eight including Christ) Spirits of God indwells a person then that person walks with God. Enoch walked with God all his life. Enoch was indwelt by one of the eight Spirits of God. Elias received a double portion. Elias became indwelt by two Spirits of God. Why didn't Jesus need a human Father? You might say he would have been beside himself. It would have been like "me and mini me" living in the same body. Now that would have been confusing.

[BeNotDeceived]

A + B = a living soul. B is Body; what word begins with A ???

Hint, it also ends with A and only has 5 letters from a 12 letter alphabet.

Many don't realize how well the deeper meaning of A---A fits.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Click either blue text to check your answer.

I got it right! But then again I did spend two years in Hawaii! I used to have an English-Hawaiian dictionary. I wish that I still had it because then I could look up Alo and Ha to find out the true meaning. I know it is used for hello and goodbye but that could be an oversimplification for English speaking people.

aloha
nvt., nvs. Aloha, love, affection, compassion, mercy, sympathy, pity, kindness, sentiment, grace, charity; greeting, salutation, regards; sweetheart, lover, loved one; beloved, loving, kind, compassionate, charitable, lovable; to love, be fond of; to show kindness, mercy, pity, charity, affection; to venerate; to remember with affection; to greet, hail. Greetings! Hello! Good-by! Farewell! Alas! The common greetings follow: Aloha ʻoe, may you be loved or greeted, greetings (to one person). Aloha kāua, may there be friendship or love between us, greetings (to one person); dear Sir. Aloha kākou, same as above, but to more than one person. Ke aloha nō! Aloha! Greetings! (The nō may be prolonged for emphasis.) (Gram. 4.6) The following greetings were introduced after European times; Aloha ahiahi, good evening. Aloha kakahiaka, good morning. Cf. aloha ʻāina, hanaaloha. Aloha aliʻi, royalist, royal love. Aloha ʻino! What a pity! Alas! [Expression of regret, either great or small.] Aloha akua, love of god; divine love, pity, charity. Mea aloha, loved one, beloved. Aloha makua, considerate and thoughtful of parents and elders, filial. Aloha ʻia, beloved, pitied. Aloha pumehana, warm aloha, affection. Me ke aloha o Ka-wena, with the love (or greeting) of Ka-wena. ʻO wau iho nō me ke aloha, I remain, with very best regards. Aloha ʻoe, ē Maria, ua piha ʻoe i ka maikaʻi, hail, Mary, full of grace. Ē Maria hemolele, e aloha mai ʻoe iā mākou, Holy Mary, have mercy on us. Aloha aʻe ana mākou i ke ehu wāwae o ka lani (chant for Ka-lā-kaua), we remember fondly the footprints of the king. E aloha aku au i ka mea aʻu e manaʻo ai e aloha aku (Puk. 33.19), I show mercy tothose I want to show mercy to. Aloha nō ia mau lā o nā makahiki he kanalima i kūnewa akula! Affectionate [memories] of these days of fifty years past! hō.aloha Rare var. of hoʻālohaloha. Cf. hoaloha. (PPN ʻalofa.)

ʻalo
1. vt. To dodge, evade, elude, avoid. ʻAlo ʻana, dodging, avoidance, oversight, omission. ʻAʻole e hiki ke alo aʻe, it canʻt be helped. hō.ʻalo To shun, dodge, avoid, escape, omit, skip; omission; to alternate or place irregularly, as strips of thatch (For. 5:651). (PPN kalo.)

2. vt. To be with, come near, go with, attend, escort, accompany, share an experience, endure, resist. Kuʻu hoa ʻalo i ke anu, my companion who shared the cold. Kū ana ʻo Mauna Loa, kuahiwi ʻalo ehuehu (song), stands Mauna Loa, mountain that resists storms. E ʻalo aʻe ʻoe iā mākou ā hiki aku i Molokaʻi (FS 267), escort us to Molokaʻi.

haʻa (same as ha)
1. nvs. Low; dwarf; man or animal of short stature. hoʻo.haʻa To lower; humble. See the more common hoʻohaʻahaʻa. (PNP saka.)

2. n. A dance with bent knees; dancing (1 Sam. 18.6); called hula after mid 1800s. (PPN saka.)

3. n. A short variety of banana.

So the deeper meaning of aloha is to approach or leave with humility. So one native Hawaiian approaching another native Hawaiian would signal friendly intent by saying aloha and the second would signal acceptance by repeating it back. Then it just became a standard greeting and came to mean a whole bunch of things.

So please tell me if the deeper meaning of aloha that you are referring too is anywhere in the above definitions.

Mahalo,

The little blue A____A link discusses it as the breath of God. Most commonly thought of a the spirit of Aloha. Also a state of mind, derived from ancient voyagers. Some of these voyages are recorded in the BoM.

[Peeps]

Jesus is not Adam. He is the word of God, and by the Word everything that was made was made. The Word was made flesh to redeem flesh, to reconcile fleshly beings to Himself which had become unholy. And God is holy. Jesus is the Word of God that took on flesh and was the Son of Man and the Son of God. That is unique, the Adam-God doctrine is blasphemy.

[The Airbender]

Jesus is not the Adam from the Garden.

[Peeps]

Jesus is not the Adam from the Garden.

Thank you.

I don't... I don't even know where to start on this. Jesus un-does what Adam chose to do.

[jmack]

Consider the source, it was Michael Sherwin.

[Michael Sherwin]

Consider the source, it was Michael Sherwin.

No the source was the Spirit. I was just the conduit!

[The Airbender]

Consider the source, it was Michael Sherwin.

No the source was the Spirit. I was just the conduit!

Which spirit?

[Michael Sherwin]

Consider the source, it was Michael Sherwin.

No the source was the Spirit. I was just the conduit!

Which spirit?

The Spirit does not have an ID card. Hower, he/she/it has never been wrong or at least has never been proven wrong. And the few times that the Spirit has given me knowledge in the form of a prediction it has ALWAYS happened. So I am confident that it is a good spirit.

[aaascending]

Consider the source, it was Michael Sherwin.

No the source was the Spirit. I was just the conduit!

Which spirit?

The Spirit does not have an ID card. Hower, he/she/it has never been wrong or at least has never been proven wrong. And the few times that the Spirit has given me knowledge in the form of a prediction it has ALWAYS happened. So I am confident that it is a good spirit.

predictions specifics?

[Luke]

Jesus was the “last Adam” as Paul says

Why? Well He becomes our Father, leaving us to believe that the “first Adam” is our Father...

Tread carefully!

[Michael Sherwin]

No the source was the Spirit. I was just the conduit!

Which spirit?

The Spirit does not have an ID card. Hower, he/she/it has never been wrong or at least has never been proven wrong. And the few times that the Spirit has given me knowledge in the form of a prediction it has ALWAYS happened. So I am confident that it is a good spirit.

predictions specifics?

It started off slow. Little things that could easily slip by without being noticed or remembered, just coincidences. Then when I was 19/20 and in the Air Force stationed at Hickam AFB Hawaii my dorm mate and I were watching a show on TV called Family Affair. An actor by the name of Sebastian Cabot appeared on the screen at 11:11 pm. I noted the exact time because there was a clock on top of the TV and for some reason I was led to notice it. Immediately an absolute knowing came over me that Sebastian Cabot was dead and I said so to my dorm mate. Well he argued with me but the next morning we heard that Sebastian Cabot died in a California hospital at 1:11 am.

Concerning the Bible in the following years I was not a Bible reader. So the way it worked is that I would receive an absolute knowing about something and sometime later when I was prompted to open the Bible I'd open it to a seemingly random page and there before my eyes was what was revealed to me. When I was 12 I received an absolute knowledge of how the physical Universe works. That absolute knowledge predicts that the Universe will dissolve in a fiery death one day. It was only later that I read the following in the Bible.


Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

75:2 When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly. 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


This is only three out of at least eighteen that I can show and have shown just from memory. So don't tell me the lies of Zion being built in the USA on this earth. I can't believe that and believe the Bible at the same time. Mormons that believe that do not believe the Bible or are ignorant of the Bible or the Bible was just mistranslated all eighteen times.

THE MOST PRESSING AND IMMEDIATE REVELATION
The Spirit gave me the absolute knowing back in the 1990's sometime, that 'just before war starts with China that the Chinese will ship pathogen laced (in the papers) fireworks to the USA that will devastate this country and disable our military especially the Navy'. Just a few days ago I received that the pathogen will be the flesh eating bacteria that caused purple infections in the middle east recently. Given the situation with Trump vs China at this time I'm a little worried for this 4th of July. But I do not know for sure it is this 4th of July. I already know that no one will pay this any heed. So just go out and celebrate the 4th as always!

[creator]

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[abijah`]

i'm open to the idea that adam was jesus (sounds like a cayce sort of thing tbh), or perhaps the idea that jesus is the man of genesis 1 and separate from the man of genesis 2, since they are obviously separate creations. one creation details order being drawn from chaos as dry land being raised up from the watery deep. the next one details order being drawn from chaos as a life-giving spring of water in a desolate barren wasteland (which ever-so-coincidentally correlates with the "new thing" the lord would work in the endtime as spoken of by jeremiah & isaiah, hmm )

i've also been faced with the idea these recent several weeks of the possibility that satan thought adam was jesus, and that this was the counter-intuitive yet ultimately-wise foresight of god the father when he put the spirit of michael into the clay tabernacle as opposed to that of jehovah.

maybe this has something to do with why when jesus was walking around in his ministry the evil spirits were surprised and were like "what the heck, what are you doing here? you're not supposed to be here yet", maybe its like that "surprise, mf" meme, "here i am boys, and i'm not even gonna let you spoil my surprise for the rest, so no testifying for you" -

john 2
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come

matthew 8
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

"i've said nothing about father" - yeah, maybe cos you don't even know who you're talking about hahaha, get wrecked, snake.

[Michael Sherwin]

i'm open to the idea that adam was jesus (sounds like a cayce sort of thing tbh), or perhaps the idea that jesus is the man of genesis 1 and separate from the man of genesis 2, since they are obviously separate creations. one creation details order being drawn from chaos as dry land being raised up from the watery deep. the next one details order being drawn from chaos as a life-giving spring of water in a desolate barren wasteland (which ever-so-coincidentally correlates with the "new thing" the lord would work in the endtime as spoken of by jeremiah & isaiah, hmm )

i've also been faced with the idea these recent several weeks of the possibility that satan thought adam was jesus, and that this was the counter-intuitive yet ultimately-wise foresight of god the father when he put the spirit of michael into the clay tabernacle as opposed to that of jehovah.

maybe this has something to do with why when jesus was walking around in his ministry the evil spirits were surprised and were like "what the heck, what are you doing here? you're not supposed to be here yet", maybe its like that "surprise, mf" meme, "here i am boys, and i'm not even gonna let you spoil my surprise for the rest, so no testifying for you" -

john 2
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come

matthew 8
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

"i've said nothing about father" - yeah, maybe cos you don't even know who you're talking about hahaha, get wrecked, snake.

My understanding has been refined since the original post. Adam is Adam and Jesus is Jesus but they were both indwelt by the same Spirit of God. God breathed his life giving Spirit into Adam. Adam passed that Spirit to his Children and eventually down to us. Jesus received a greater portion of God's Spirit at his baptism. When Jesus, now exalted, ascended to sit at the right hand of the Father the Spirit of God that indwelt Jesus returned to the Father. That is why Jesus had to return to the Father before he could send another comforter, because the very same Spirit of God that indwelt Adam then Jesus will also indwell the future comforter.