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2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:45 am

It is not too soon to start looking for good candidates for the 2018 elections. I'm already getting notices from candidates. Here in Arizona there is effort to oust John McCain from the US Senate and to replace a few other socialist legislators. What's cooking in the political arena in Utah ?

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby gkearney » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:34 am

lundbaek wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:45 am
It is not too soon to start looking for good candidates for the 2018 elections. I'm already getting notices from candidates. Here in Arizona there is effort to oust John McCain from the US Senate and to replace a few other socialist legislators. What's cooking in the political arena in Utah ?

Will John McCain even be alive by November of 2018? I mean let’s face it the reason he was able to vote as he did in the senate is because when your a “dead man walking” no political pressure can be applied to you.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:06 pm

John McCain is not the only legislator I'd like for us to be shod of. I'm toying with the idea of running for the US "House" again, although I'm waiting to see if there will be a better constitutionalist candidate.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby David13 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:41 pm

About Utah, I don't know, I just got here. And I still have a lot of other things to tend to before I get involved.

I hope that the votes are put behind a winning candidate, rather than a "perfect" or "ideal" candidate. Because the first job is to ... win the election.

Not feel good that one cast their vote to feel good.
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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:50 pm

It may seem too early to be concerned about next year's elections, but voters need to be awakened to the importance of next year's elections, and need to start getting informed about the danger the nation and the individual states, and even the individual communities are in at this time. Here is Arizona Senator Flake has just announced his intent to "retire" from the senate, and Senator McCain has health issues that may open up his seat for grabs also. Both of these senators have been supportive of illegal immigration and amnesty, and are otherwise true RINOs. My congressional representative will vacate her seat in the "House" as she runs for the US Senate.

So what's happening in the political arena in Utah ? I would expect a lot more members of this forum to be interested in this topic and would have chimed in by now.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby Arenera » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:13 pm

What good does running or voting for a Constitutionist candidate do? A solid 1% vote. What does that do?
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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:19 pm

If you received this campaign notice from a candidate for the U.S. Congress, how might you be influenced by it ?

If elected, I will uphold and abide by the principles of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States as it was originally meant to be understood , and the Bill of Rights. It will be my goal to help limit the federal government to its delegated, enumerated, Constitutional functions.

Originalist Interpretation
I interpret the Founding Documents according to the meaning originally intended by the Founding Fathers.

States’ Powers
Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government, nor prohibited by the Constitution to the states, is reserved to the states or to the people.

Education
Since the Constitution grants the Federal Government no authority over Education, the 10th Amendment applies. This includes funding.

Gun Rights
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Foreign Policy, Defense, & Terrorism
American government must be committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense of Americans, with no entanglement in foreign alliances. Any and all wars must be declared by Congress.

Veterans
I will resist the attempt by any government agency to nullify or reduce earned benefits to veterans and their survivors, including but not limited to, compensation, pensions, education, and health care.

Immigration
I stand firmly against any proposals for a “Pathway to Citizenship/Comprehensive Immigration Reform/Amnesty”. I will insist that the U.S. President enforce all immigration laws and support efforts of the U.S. Border Patrol to stop any and all border jumpers.

Treaties & Trade Deals
I believe that any so-called free trade deals and/or treaties that usurp American Sovereignty and/or the Constitution are unconstitutional and the U.S.A. should withdraw from them immediately.

United Nations, Agenda 21, & Global Organizations
I vehemently oppose Agenda 21 and feel we should part ways with the UN and any other global agency that attempts to subvert American Sovereignty.

Religious Freedom
All Americans have equal right to worship according to their beliefs. Government is to be kept out of the religious realm.

Healthcare & Social Security
I believe in the privatization of Healthcare and Social Security, with Social Security being phased out.

Judiciary
I reject the notion that the Supreme Court’s decisions are binding as law beyond those parties to whom the case pertained. Activist Judges should be impeached, as permissible by the Constitution.

Drugs
The federal government’s only responsibility in preventing drug abuse is to control our borders. Drugs are a state issue.

Life
Life for all human beings: from conception to natural death.

Personal Liberty
The Federal Government must be restricted to its enumerated powers as such that it does not impede the Liberty of the People whom it serves.

Property Rights
Each individual possesses the right to own and steward personal property without government burden.

Family
Family is the Bedrock of a healthy Society. It is imperative that government maintains a favorable position to the divinely instituted nuclear family, not one that leads to its destruction.

Personal Responsibility
Americanist ideals are rooted in self-sustenance. Government social and cultural policies have undermined the work ethic, even as the government’s economic and regulatory policies have undermined the ability of our citizens to obtain work.

Sound Money & Constitutional Banking
We must abolish the Federal Reserve and Return to the stability of gold and silver based money. This is essential to stop the devaluation of U.S. currency


In the United States today we have been beset for over 100 years with a carefully and methodically executed conspiracy intent on destroying the constitutional government the American Founding Fathers gave us and making a shambles of the society and government established by the U.S. Constitution. The goal of the conspirators is to saddle the United States with a centralized socialist government and make our nation subservient to a single, world government, a.k.a. the New World Order. If America is to break free of this conspiracy, we must learn the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers, and espouse, uphold, and abide by them.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby David13 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:55 pm

Probably the best person for the job (Congress, President, or any local official) is the one who doesn't want the office.
However, that's rarely ever the case. It's always some bloated self righteous ego that goes after it, musters the money and rallies support.
One of the beauties of Donald Trump was that he wasn't a politician and to that extent he didn't want the job. But he saw an opportunity where he was needed. He didn't need to be President. That bloated self righteous, money grubbing, power hungry monster he ran against needed it to feed the pathetic ego. That was another beauty of the election. That monster (I can't stand to say the name) had it's villainy thwarted; was denied the opportunity to gloat and lord the power over us 'deplorables'.

What's the politicians first job?

To get elected.
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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:01 am

I have 2 acquaintances, both LDS, who ran, one for POTUS and the other for Congress, because they felt prompted by the Spirit to do so. The candidate for Congress was elected. And another LDS is considering running for Congress next year, again, because of what he feels "may be true promptings of the Spirit". None of the 3 want to be in the FedGov. All 3 are really concerned about where this nation is headed.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby LdsMarco » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:19 pm

Just don't let it be Creepy Uncle Joe Biden

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:44 am

I note some of you have a good understanding of constitutional principles. If you were to run for the US Congress your campaign could bring to the attention of many LDS voters the special importance of the US Constitution to Latter-day Saints. It might be an effort well spent for that reason alone.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby Crackers » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:05 am

lundbaek wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:44 am
I note some of you have a good understanding of constitutional principles. If you were to run for the US Congress your campaign could bring to the attention of many LDS voters the special importance of the US Constitution to Latter-day Saints. It might be an effort well spent for that reason alone.
I couldn't even win the vote in my extended family or my ward. Both are full of Hatch and Herbert (our Governor) supporters, much like most of the state. They can't even see the benefit of a constitutional candidate. It's all about voting in whatever well-known name/face is running on the GOP ballot. It's more than frightening. Anyone who runs third party is considered some sort of radical, as are those who support them. :cry:

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby lundbaek » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:16 am

I ran for Congress in 2008 for the sole purpose of bringing to the attention of many LDS voters the special importance of the US Constitution to Latter-day Saints. With help of a few others I got that message out to over 1000 LDS voters. In Arizona it is east and cheap to run for the US Congress as an independent write-in candidate. I consider it important to make as many people as possible aware of the principles of the Constitution in order to build up that "remnant" that, according to Joseph Smith and some subsequent prophets, will somehow rescue the Constitution from total destruction. I doubt this will happen until after the "cleansing" as described in the D&C, but any such effort on our part will not be wasted.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby tdj » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:32 pm

We need people running for office now more then ever who are committed to upholding the constitution. It has been used as toilet paper in Washington for far too long. Our laws have strayed so far from what the founding fathers would deem acceptable, that we are past being even a socialist/capitalist hybrid nation, to just being a soft core socialist nation.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby tdj » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:45 pm

This is going to sound terrible, but bear with me: The idea of electing religious people, even LDS people to positions of power in our government kind of makes me nervous. If I knew for certain they would not let their own personal opinions on morality get in the way of quashing or vetoing laws that were blatantly unconstitutional in order to support their sense of morality, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. It might even be better for the nation. We have so many laws on the books that are considered "morality laws" that honestly need to be taken off. They smack in the face of personal property rights. Most of them involve the human body. As much as I don't think drugs are a smart thing to do, the idea that someone could be arrested, and locked in a cage for years for merely smoking a plant that grows on the side of the road is absolutely preposterous. Prostitution is another example. I wouldn't do it and I wouldn't want my daughter to engage in that sort of entreprenurship, but by making it illegal, it is causing much more harm then good. Women are being abused, not given proper healthcare and are stuck in the shadows because some holier then thou jerk thought it was up to HIM to decide what a woman should morally do with her own body (personal, private property). If women can offer their hands to give a massage, or a haircut, or their brain to offer insight and knowledge, then who's business is it really to tell her what other anatomy she can't offer for service?

I think I would rather have a religous neutral, and ardent Constitutionalist, rather then risk a Nehemia Scudder scenario.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby tdj » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:59 pm

David13 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:55 pm
Probably the best person for the job (Congress, President, or any local official) is the one who doesn't want the office.
However, that's rarely ever the case. It's always some bloated self righteous ego that goes after it, musters the money and rallies support.
One of the beauties of Donald Trump was that he wasn't a politician and to that extent he didn't want the job. But he saw an opportunity where he was needed. He didn't need to be President. That bloated self righteous, money grubbing, power hungry monster he ran against needed it to feed the pathetic ego. That was another beauty of the election. That monster (I can't stand to say the name) had it's villainy thwarted; was denied the opportunity to gloat and lord the power over us 'deplorables'.

What's the politicians first job?

To get elected.
dc
Remember election night when Hillary wouldn't show up to even speak with her supporters? She sent Podesta out there to give a pep talk that would have been nice had it not been so pitiful due to the fact that they lost.

Rumor has it that when she began losing, she started to get angry, and got progressively worse as the night wore on. When it became clear she was going to lose, she was by then absolutely plastered and began physically attacking people, yelling all sorts of obscenities. She got on the phone, and was sobbing to friends. It's a crying shame there wasn't any video of that. By the time podesta got to the podium, she was so drunk, there would have been no way she could have properly addressed the crowd. THIS is how she handles adversity. We dodged a bullet BIG TIME.

What is so infuriating is the fact that in the LDS ranks, we still have anti Trumpers , and Hillary supporters. I can't fathom voting for Hillary. LDS members risks being excommunicated for even HELPING with something like an abortion, so what do these members think they are endorsing and supporting when they vote Democrat? Do they honestly think it doesn't count since they aren't the ones with the scalpel pulling out the little baby hands and feet?

A side question: Why hasn't Harry Reid been excommunicated? Anyone happen know on good authority? That's my list of mysteries to solve before I die. It's right behind where elephants go to die, and right before where the location of Atlantis is.

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Re: 2018 Elections

Postby David13 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:41 pm

tdj wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:59 pm
David13 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:55 pm
Probably the best person for the job (Congress, President, or any local official) is the one who doesn't want the office.
However, that's rarely ever the case. It's always some bloated self righteous ego that goes after it, musters the money and rallies support.
One of the beauties of Donald Trump was that he wasn't a politician and to that extent he didn't want the job. But he saw an opportunity where he was needed. He didn't need to be President. That bloated self righteous, money grubbing, power hungry monster he ran against needed it to feed the pathetic ego. That was another beauty of the election. That monster (I can't stand to say the name) had it's villainy thwarted; was denied the opportunity to gloat and lord the power over us 'deplorables'.

What's the politicians first job?

To get elected.
dc
Remember election night when Hillary wouldn't show up to even speak with her supporters? She sent Podesta out there to give a pep talk that would have been nice had it not been so pitiful due to the fact that they lost.

Rumor has it that when she began losing, she started to get angry, and got progressively worse as the night wore on. When it became clear she was going to lose, she was by then absolutely plastered and began physically attacking people, yelling all sorts of obscenities. She got on the phone, and was sobbing to friends. It's a crying shame there wasn't any video of that. By the time podesta got to the podium, she was so drunk, there would have been no way she could have properly addressed the crowd. THIS is how she handles adversity. We dodged a bullet BIG TIME.

What is so infuriating is the fact that in the LDS ranks, we still have anti Trumpers , and Hillary supporters. I can't fathom voting for Hillary. LDS members risks being excommunicated for even HELPING with something like an abortion, so what do these members think they are endorsing and supporting when they vote Democrat? Do they honestly think it doesn't count since they aren't the ones with the scalpel pulling out the little baby hands and feet?

A side question: Why hasn't Harry Reid been excommunicated? Anyone happen know on good authority? That's my list of mysteries to solve before I die. It's right behind where elephants go to die, and right before where the location of Atlantis is.

Good questions.
I think Donald Trump did not want to be President. He didn't need it.
But what he felt was that someone other than the usual run of the mill politicians was needed. That we needed him.
It was such a sheer delight to have him knock that horrid witch out of the box, to thwart her evil plan. It was truly a God-send. Both before and after I prayed, for the divine hand of God, and then of thanks for our deliverance from evil.

Now, none of that is to say that Donald Trump is perfect, or wonderful, but that he is not her and her agenda. Not to say that he is a great Constitutionalist, or a great Constitutional scholar or any such thing, just that with him, we have some chance.
dc


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