Food storage does it matter, why? (Contest)

[Older/wiser?]

We decided to downsize, as I look around I realize how very much we have. I somehow always find the deals on things that can be used for preparedness and food storage, a talent or curse depending on how you look at it. I can't walk away from a deal whether I need it or not ( my way of treasure hunting). Silver inspired me last summer to want to share more , the fun of guessing and winning silver was great. So how do I give someone on this forum a wheat grinder and 6 bags of wheat (good wheat waltons double bagged),. All I could come up with is those who are interested write a short summary here on " food storage does it matter, why" the person getting the most thanks wins. I can bring the grinder and wheat to Utah, if you don't live close I can mail the grinder and send a check for 6 bags of wheat made out to the place you purchase your wheat from. I truly want to help someone who is trying to accomplish there personal or family preparedness. So if this speaks to you then take up my offer. I will look for responses till next Friday the 2nd of Feb. Thanks to all for the kindness you show to one another, we all need I inspiration.

[mirkwood]

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[Juliet]

Right now in North Carolina the roads are shut down and stores are empty of bread and milk. I didn't know about the storm till last night. So we are having homemade spelt bread for dinner.

[Silver]

Bravo! You are a great soul, Older/Wiser.

[DesertWonderer2]

Why does it matter? Great question.

At the end of the day, it just like tithing or the WoW. Maybe it’s just simply about obedience to God’s commandments....let us prove them herewith... Any side benefits of being healthier or more self-reliant are just that: side benefits.

[Older/wiser?]

I forgot to mention the wheat grinder is The Kitchen Mill by K-Tec large electric new never used, of course wasn't it Brother Brigham who said that in the last days a bushel of wheat will be worth its weight in gold. I do hope there is someone on the forum who would use and enjoy this to help with your preparedness.

[paid2play]

food storage does it matter, why

I may be a bit late, but i thought i'd give my opinion...throughout the Scriptures the Lord has always told us to prepare, wither it be for him or for the world ending and many other things of course, I try to live my life in two ways, live as though nothing is going to happen but prepare as though the cleansing of the wicked will happen tomorrow, so not only is food storage essential to our survival after the lights go out, but water storage is equally important, Food and water are symbolic though, the Lord did say that man cannot live on bread alone, but we must need the word of the Lord as much as we need food and water to live. I do have food and water storage, and i also have some to feed those who have not prepared.

[Robin Hood]

I have struggled with this teaching over the years. On the one hand I understand that being prepared is a good thing. But on the other, storing a years supply of food does smell somewhat of trusting in the arm of flesh.
And then when we read in the New Testament, and in the Book of Mormon, and in the D&C (that's 3 times!) that we should give no thought to what we shall eat or drink or wear, nor for tomorrow; I find it very difficult to justify the teaching of the church in this regard.
I have a food store but I have it reluctantly.

[Rand]

Self Reliance is at the very core of having access to your agency. If you are not self reliant, you lose a degree of the power to choose. Following the Brethren's consistent advice to get out of debt, so as to not be held hostage to your employer or the bank who owns your mortgage. Living within your means keeps you from being controlled by the credit card companies, or your friends and neighbors or facebook. It sets you free from others expectations and the need to find meaning and fulfillment in things.
Having a supply of food and other essentials sets you free from fear. It allows you to live out of faith, it lets you choose what you think is best, in a time when, wether there are trials or not, we may be challenged by the wars, and rumors of war, or by the relentless confusion that pervades the world in our day.
Self Reliance, of which food storage is a vital part of, is the key to keeping your agency "free". And a small price it is to pay...

[Older/wiser?]

So glad you responded, and yes I will still send out the New K-Tec Wheat Grinder and 6 bags of wheat to one of you.

[paid2play]

I have struggled with this teaching over the years. On the one hand I understand that being prepared is a good thing. But on the other, storing a years supply of food does smell somewhat of trusting in the arm of flesh.
And then when we read in the New Testament, and in the Book of Mormon, and in the D&C (that's 3 times!) that we should give no thought to what we shall eat or drink or wear, nor for tomorrow; I find it very difficult to justify the teaching of the church in this regard.
I have a food store but I have it reluctantly.

no you should not put your full trust in the arm of flesh, only God deserves that kind of obedience, but we do need to put some trust in some men just like the pharaoh of Egypt did with Joseph when he warned him of the 7 years of plenty and the 7 years of famine..its not like when Christ comes again its just going to happen all the sudden, there will be a time where there is not stores you can run to that a min away and you can pick up when and where you want, but if you are reluctant to have a food storage ill be happy to relieve you of it

[Rand]

So glad you responded, and yes I will still send out the New K-Tec Wheat Grinder and 6 bags of wheat to one of you.

I appreciate you doing this. I don't need the grinder, or the wheat, but would that more would chime in and express their feelings and understanding. Well done.

[Robin Hood]

I have struggled with this teaching over the years. On the one hand I understand that being prepared is a good thing. But on the other, storing a years supply of food does smell somewhat of trusting in the arm of flesh.
And then when we read in the New Testament, and in the Book of Mormon, and in the D&C (that's 3 times!) that we should give no thought to what we shall eat or drink or wear, nor for tomorrow; I find it very difficult to justify the teaching of the church in this regard.
I have a food store but I have it reluctantly.

no you should not put your full trust in the arm of flesh, only God deserves that kind of obedience, but we do need to put some trust in some men just like the pharaoh of Egypt did with Joseph when he warned him of the 7 years of plenty and the 7 years of famine..its not like when Christ comes again its just going to happen all the sudden, there will be a time where there is not stores you can run to that a min away and you can pick up when and where you want, but if you are reluctant to have a food storage ill be happy to relieve you of it

But we're not Egyptians. They didn't believe in the Most High God.
Notice that he used the Egyptians in order to save the Israelites from the famine. Why didn't God just tell the Israelites to store up food during the years of plenty? There is no record of him doing that.
He commanded his people to be righteous and to worship him and keep his laws. When the famine came he provided for them because they were his people.
Are we really saying that God has lost the power or inclination to do this so we now have to do it for ourselves?

[David13]

We have to do as we are counseled, advised, as it is written. And that goes for Robin Hood, even tho' he refuses to trust the arm of man, but will instead just rely on his socialist government.

I have been trying to work on food storage for more than 3 years, but only around 3 years ago found myself a member of the church and thus learning that divine inspiration has been given to us to do so.

However, what I am doing is primitive and initial at best.

But. I attend on Tuesday night a local preparation group (almost all, or perhaps all members) which has a different prep presentation from an expert every week (after pot luck). Local experts, with some experience in a preparation product or program.

I also know of a Thursday night similar group a town or two over.

I could certainly inquire at either of those meetings if someone could and would use such a grinder. I know I wouldn't know what to do with it.

Also, it's electric and we are all preparing for no electricity as problems begin. But I don't know if that's significant or not. This is all a learning experience for me.
dc

[creator]

My (late) entry into the contest: "Food Storage does it matter, why":

Food storage matters, especially to the AVOWers. As long as they do their part in hording multiple years worth of food storage, I can just walk into one of their survival camps and have plenty of food to live off of after the coming calamities that are surely going to come this Spring (my friend's cousin's uncle's brother had a dream about it).

[mirkwood]

My (late) entry into the contest: "Food Storage does it matter, why":

Food storage matters, especially to the AVOWers. As long as they do their part in hording multiple years worth of food storage, I can just walk into one of their survival camps and have plenty of food to live off of after the coming calamities that are surely going to come this Spring (my friend's cousin's uncle's brother had a dream about it).

Yes this spring. It feels right and everything seems to indicate we will be in the Tent Cities this spring.

[brianj]

I have struggled with this teaching over the years. On the one hand I understand that being prepared is a good thing. But on the other, storing a years supply of food does smell somewhat of trusting in the arm of flesh.
And then when we read in the New Testament, and in the Book of Mormon, and in the D&C (that's 3 times!) that we should give no thought to what we shall eat or drink or wear, nor for tomorrow; I find it very difficult to justify the teaching of the church in this regard.
I have a food store but I have it reluctantly.

First off, I would like to point out that 'take no thought for the morrow" was not a blanket statement, but was directed at specific groups. In Luke 12 the Savior isn't addressing the multitude, but His disciples. In 3 Nephi 13 He turned away from the multitude, "looked upon the twelve whom he had chosen, and said unto them..." And in D&C 84 the instruction is directed at "any man that shall go and preach this gospel of the kingdom." This was a specific instruction to those who are to preach the gospel as opposed to a statement meant for the entire body of the church. Therefore you don't need to be reluctant about keeping this counsel.

[brianj]

I have plenty of food storage, enough to last me three years, and I want the WonderMill Junior because I don't want to have to rely on electricity, therefore I waited after the end of the time frame Older/Wiser gave before posting. Yes I could have said not me, but I chose to wait.

To me, food storage means two things. First, and most importantly, it means obedience. It is an outward sign that you are willing to do more than just go through the motions of doing what you need to in order to look like a good church member. It's one of those things, like home teaching, that is easy to ignore but it shows that you are willing to go an extra mile.

Second, a storm is coming. We don't know when; it could happen next week or next decade. But when it comes, you must believe one of three things: that statements by Orson Hyde and others are just their own imaginations, that you don't need to do anything because somebody else will take care of you, or that Heavenly Father will bless you most if you are obedient now. People in the first two categories don't need to do anything, but people in the third category will feel a lot of comfort if they have food storage. I am in this last category and I take great comfort in knowing that, should the storm come soon, I have enough to (hopefully) provide for myself and a family. If not, I'll have enough to help some others around me.

[Older/wiser?]

Some of my thoughts on food storage, first I am not a "prepper" I am however most definitely prepared. My definition of the difference , I follow no group, don't go to meetings, don't bother with books from people with their dreams ,visions or experiences I don't look for dates or try to out think every case scenario. I do believe in the counsel given us from past prophets Pres. Benson ,some of his talks were powerful to me, Pres. Hinckley and all the counsel of the Lord given us through his apostles and prophets during my 42 yrs of maturing in my faith and testimony. I don't believe for one minute that being prepared and practicing this principle will insure us of escaping trials and tribulations, what following this counsel does is develop ones faith and gives power to my Testimony. I believe if everything I have put aside , every sleeping bag , every oz. of wheat was covered over by an earthquake, if all things were in commotion and everything taken from me, I would have power to stand in a field and call upon my Father in Heaven and He would provide for my needs, I don't just think this I know this to be true. Why? Why do I know this because I have sacrificed over the yrs. to do and follow the counsel of our beloved prophets. That is why I do what I do, yes I would like to avoid suffering if it comes to that and if I still suffer it won't be because I didn't do all that I could do so no regrets on my part. Years ago I took a class Joseph and the 7 yr. famine was discussed the teacher taught how the people first came and purchased supplies, then traded their lands, then their precious possessions, by the end they were trading themselves into slavery just to be feed. Bondage, debt stops you from being able to purchase that which you might need. If any need to be reminded why debt is so deadly re-read Pres. Hinckleys 1997 Oct. talk the Spirit with which he gave it was powerful. I look around and see families with little children eating out daily, is everyone wealthy able to spend $80.-$100 on one meal, of course the credit card is always pulled out. Shame on us LDS folks if we don't prepare when we have been given so much because it really is all about choices. This is the Why we do it , not to rely "on the arm of flesh" but to avoid the control of mammon and be free, free to worship our God and not be controlled by debt or man. I was surprised how no one wanted my free "gift" aha but the lesson I gleaned from that is for another day. The offer is still open. If there is someone out there who needs or would put this to good use let me know.

[paid2play]

Some of my thoughts on food storage, first I am not a "prepper" I am however most definitely prepared. My definition of the difference , I follow no group, don't go to meetings, don't bother with books from people with their dreams ,visions or experiences I don't look for dates or try to out think every case scenario. I do believe in the counsel given us from past prophets Pres. Benson ,some of his talks were powerful to me, Pres. Hinckley and all the counsel of the Lord given us through his apostles and prophets during my 42 yrs of maturing in my faith and testimony. I don't believe for one minute that being prepared and practicing this principle will insure us of escaping trials and tribulations, what following this counsel does is develop ones faith and gives power to my Testimony. I believe if everything I have put aside , every sleeping bag , every oz. of wheat was covered over by an earthquake, if all things were in commotion and everything taken from me, I would have power to stand in a field and call upon my Father in Heaven and He would provide for my needs, I don't just think this I know this to be true. Why? Why do I know this because I have sacrificed over the yrs. to do and follow the counsel of our beloved prophets. That is why I do what I do, yes I would like to avoid suffering if it comes to that and if I still suffer it won't be because I didn't do all that I could do so no regrets on my part. Years ago I took a class Joseph and the 7 yr. famine was discussed the teacher taught how the people first came and purchased supplies, then traded their lands, then their precious possessions, by the end they were trading themselves into slavery just to be feed. Bondage, debt stops you from being able to purchase that which you might need. If any need to be reminded why debt is so deadly re-read Pres. Hinckleys 1997 Oct. talk the Spirit with which he gave it was powerful. I look around and see families with little children eating out daily, is everyone wealthy able to spend $80.-$100 on one meal, of course the credit card is always pulled out. Shame on us LDS folks if we don't prepare when we have been given so much because it really is all about choices. This is the Why we do it , not to rely "on the arm of flesh" but to avoid the control of mammon and be free, free to worship our God and not be controlled by debt or man. I was surprised how no one wanted my free "gift" aha but the lesson I gleaned from that is for another day. The offer is still open. If there is someone out there who needs or would put this to good use let me know.

I would put it to good use and I am in Utah, i do have some wheat but could always use more, i dont have a wheat grinder yet, well not a decent one anyways. But I am am capable of providing my own if there is someone more in need that will ask for it

[bbsion]

I look at food storage as "building an ark". As far as I know, God never told Noah the exact date the flood was coming, just to build the boat. We've been told by numerous prophets to "build a boat" by getting food storage. I have felt the Holy Ghost confirm this is wise counsel, so I do not look at it as trusting in the arm of flesh. It also just makes sense to me. If electricity goes out or crap hits the fan on "a day you think not"... then people will raid the stores. Luckily I will not have to sell my integrity to do that. I will go into my basement and feed my kids with what we prepared. In the mean time I will try to work with the community to garden and hunt. If nothing happens... then nothing happens. The worst that can happen is I waste a little bit of money. The best that can happen is that it can save lives.

I've always thought that when stuff starts to go down, we as a community/ward would gather together to help each other out. No one wants their neighbor to starve. I always imagined we would bring our food/water storage to the church and then divvy it out according to the needs of the family. I want to be able to bring something to the table if the time comes.

On a side note, water storage is more important than food storage. You can go longer without food than you can clean water. Clean water is one of the hardest things to find when disaster hits.

[mirkwood]

On a side note, water storage is more important than food storage. You can go longer without food than you can clean water. Clean water is one of the hardest things to find when disaster hits.

They are equally important.

[mirkwood]

Some of my thoughts on food storage, first I am not a "prepper" I am however most definitely prepared. My definition of the difference , I follow no group, don't go to meetings, don't bother with books from people with their dreams ,visions or experiences I don't look for dates or try to out think every case scenario. I do believe in the counsel given us from past prophets Pres. Benson ,some of his talks were powerful to me, Pres. Hinckley and all the counsel of the Lord given us through his apostles and prophets during my 42 yrs of maturing in my faith and testimony. I don't believe for one minute that being prepared and practicing this principle will insure us of escaping trials and tribulations, what following this counsel does is develop ones faith and gives power to my Testimony. I believe if everything I have put aside , every sleeping bag , every oz. of wheat was covered over by an earthquake, if all things were in commotion and everything taken from me, I would have power to stand in a field and call upon my Father in Heaven and He would provide for my needs, I don't just think this I know this to be true. Why? Why do I know this because I have sacrificed over the yrs. to do and follow the counsel of our beloved prophets. That is why I do what I do, yes I would like to avoid suffering if it comes to that and if I still suffer it won't be because I didn't do all that I could do so no regrets on my part. Years ago I took a class Joseph and the 7 yr. famine was discussed the teacher taught how the people first came and purchased supplies, then traded their lands, then their precious possessions, by the end they were trading themselves into slavery just to be feed. Bondage, debt stops you from being able to purchase that which you might need. If any need to be reminded why debt is so deadly re-read Pres. Hinckleys 1997 Oct. talk the Spirit with which he gave it was powerful. I look around and see families with little children eating out daily, is everyone wealthy able to spend $80.-$100 on one meal, of course the credit card is always pulled out. Shame on us LDS folks if we don't prepare when we have been given so much because it really is all about choices. This is the Why we do it , not to rely "on the arm of flesh" but to avoid the control of mammon and be free, free to worship our God and not be controlled by debt or man. I was surprised how no one wanted my free "gift" aha but the lesson I gleaned from that is for another day. The offer is still open. If there is someone out there who needs or would put this to good use let me know.

I suspect on this forum there are many prepared people.

[Sarah]

Some of my thoughts on food storage, first I am not a "prepper" I am however most definitely prepared. My definition of the difference , I follow no group, don't go to meetings, don't bother with books from people with their dreams ,visions or experiences I don't look for dates or try to out think every case scenario. I do believe in the counsel given us from past prophets Pres. Benson ,some of his talks were powerful to me, Pres. Hinckley and all the counsel of the Lord given us through his apostles and prophets during my 42 yrs of maturing in my faith and testimony. I don't believe for one minute that being prepared and practicing this principle will insure us of escaping trials and tribulations, what following this counsel does is develop ones faith and gives power to my Testimony. I believe if everything I have put aside , every sleeping bag , every oz. of wheat was covered over by an earthquake, if all things were in commotion and everything taken from me, I would have power to stand in a field and call upon my Father in Heaven and He would provide for my needs, I don't just think this I know this to be true. Why? Why do I know this because I have sacrificed over the yrs. to do and follow the counsel of our beloved prophets. That is why I do what I do, yes I would like to avoid suffering if it comes to that and if I still suffer it won't be because I didn't do all that I could do so no regrets on my part. Years ago I took a class Joseph and the 7 yr. famine was discussed the teacher taught how the people first came and purchased supplies, then traded their lands, then their precious possessions, by the end they were trading themselves into slavery just to be feed. Bondage, debt stops you from being able to purchase that which you might need. If any need to be reminded why debt is so deadly re-read Pres. Hinckleys 1997 Oct. talk the Spirit with which he gave it was powerful. I look around and see families with little children eating out daily, is everyone wealthy able to spend $80.-$100 on one meal, of course the credit card is always pulled out. Shame on us LDS folks if we don't prepare when we have been given so much because it really is all about choices. This is the Why we do it , not to rely "on the arm of flesh" but to avoid the control of mammon and be free, free to worship our God and not be controlled by debt or man. I was surprised how no one wanted my free "gift" aha but the lesson I gleaned from that is for another day. The offer is still open. If there is someone out there who needs or would put this to good use let me know.

I suspect on this forum there are many prepared people.

Yup, got myself a brand new Nutrimill last fall and love it. I do have a hand-grinder, but I think it would be nice to have another one on hand.

[bbsion]

On a side note, water storage is more important than food storage. You can go longer without food than you can clean water. Clean water is one of the hardest things to find when disaster hits.

They are equally important.

Just about.