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Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 8th, 2017, 2:32 am
by Elizabeth
"The Duke of Marlborough was recently interviewed on English television, where he declared that decades ago, when he served time in prison — yes, even dukes go to prison, something to do with a cocaine and heroin habit, and burglaries to pay for it — he became a Muslim in order to obtain more food. Apparently he regarded the halal option as providing more food than regular prison food, and the Duke decided it was worth converting for this ampler meal. He said nothing about its being “better,” but perhaps he also meant that.

And he’s not alone. All over the Western world, there are prisoners who convert to Islam, sometimes out of belief, shallow or profound, and often, as with the decadent Duke, for what have been called “convenience conversions.” The most important consideration for those behind bars is, of course, security, and conversion to Islam allows one to be a member of what is now — given the high rates of Muslim criminality and incarceratiion in the Western world — the biggest and baddest gang of them all. A community of bruisers and bruvvers who in prison likely threatened you as an Infidel, but now, once you’ve converted, will stick up for you as a Muslim.

And still others do so because Muslims apparently get to spend more time out of their cells; presumably this has to do with being allowed to gather in a group with other Muslims to say the five daily prayers. But more about that in a minute.

What shall we say about the Duke’s public admission? First, we might ask the Duke if in the time since his incarceration, some decades ago, he has remained a Muslim. His story strongly suggests that he has not. And by announcing on national television that he had once converted to Islam, but that it was done only to improve his dining experience, this is a way of making light of the faith. It seems clear that he jettisoned Islam as soon as he left prison. As long as that remained unknown, he was safe. But now that he’s just announced it in as public a fashion as possible, that raises a new problem. For there may be some Muslims in the U.K. who, furious with his attitude, his revelation of his temporary and insincere embrace of Islam, and the alacrity with which he apostatized once he was out of jail, may take it upon themselves to make an example of him, meting out the justice he deserves as an apostate — that is, death. And why not make an example of him, to make sure people know that once they have accepted Islam, no matter what they claim is the reason, they are Muslims for life, and no exceptions are to be made, not even for the Duke of Marlborough?

As it turns out, prisoners need not convert to Islam to be able to chose the halal option. The Duke, whose mind is clearly not of the best, apparently was unaware of this at the time. Or perhaps at that time, some decades ago, you did have to be a Muslim to receive halal meals. Or there is still another possibility: perhaps Jamie Spencer-Churchill (he was not then the Duke) had another reason for converting to Islam, that is, the physical security it provides prisoners, but was embarrassed to admit that, and instead decided he would attribute his conversion not to physical fear of being beaten up, but to the desire for more, or tastier, food. Of course, such concern for his safety would have been perfectly understandable. Imagine all the people who would like to settle their scores with the aristos and the toffs by making life exceedingly unpleasant for any of them who happened to end up behind bars. He would have been a natural target for violence.

And now the Duke faces the prospect of a new worry, that he brought upon himself by the casual revelation of his most temporary conversion, the worry that someone, somewhere, may be getting ready to punish him as an apostate. Such a killing would remind all those who made “convenience conversions” behind bars and simply assumed they could drop Islam once they got out, that it isn’t possible.

Should we care about these conversions behind bars? Yes, I think we should. For even when people choose, out of concern for their physical safety, to become Muslims, they may then convince themselves that they really do believe in Islam, and that they converted because of that belief, not out of fear. Who wants to admit, even to himself, that he became a Muslim just because he was scared? You tell not just others, but yourself, that your conversion was prompted by honest belief.

And even just the desire for the halal food option, if accompanied by a public (though false) conversion, can become one more step on the road to real conversion. There’s the matter of pride: “I take my beliefs seriously “(the Duke being a devil-may-care exception to that rule). There’s the matter of making sure your fellow Muslims believe you have sincerely converted, lest they decide you have not, and punish you for it. And then there is the matter of avoiding the charge of apostasy. If you convert in jail, whatever the reason or reasons, you may be stuck. Surely, you think, Muslims won’t dare to start enforcing Sharia punishments in the West. But they already do. How many, originally “convenience converts,” will, once they are out of prison, continue to practice Islam because they are now fearful of leaving the faith? In prison, they may have become Muslims out of concern for their safety; out of prison, they remain Muslims out of concern for their safety. And psychologically, it’s easier for them, in or out of prison, if they convince themselves that they truly believe.

It would be far better if the prison authorities made sure that non-Muslim and Muslim prisoners received equal treatment. There’s not much that they can do to deal with the violence inside prisons and the perception that Muslims provide better security for fellow Muslims, save to constantly increase the security for all prisoners, coming down hard at the least sign of violence. But for other “convenience conversions,” something can be done. It should not be beyond the wit of the prison food services, recognizing that at present the halal food option is apparently deemed superior, to undo that advantage. I do not know if the halal option differs only in the meat that is offered, or if there are other differences in the two menus. But it should be easy to increase the portion size, or add spices to the non-halal meat, or in some other way make that non-halal meal as desirable as the halal option — perhaps provide beer with the non-halal dinners. How can Muslims object to this, when all you are doing is making the non-halal option as desirable as the halal option? And the proof that this policy is working will be the decline in the number of non-Muslims requesting the halal option.

We mentioned above that there is another problem, apparently, in the prisons, which is the perception, and I think the reality, that Muslims are allowed more time out of their cells than non-Muslims. I presume that is because Muslim prisoners are — according to an official document on the treatment of Muslim prisoners put out by the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime — to be allowed, whenever possible, to participate in group prayer. For example, the U.N document insists, “Each Friday, at noon prayer, Muslim prisoners should be allowed to listen to a Muslim religious preacher’s speech and have a group prayer.” The U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime’s report on the proper treatment of Muslim prisoners goes further than just that Friday noon khutba-cum-prayer, declaring that “Wherever the facilities and security permit, group or congregational prayer should be facilitated.”

Furthermore, “because the original language of the Koran is Arabic, where educational material is available, Muslim inmates who desire should be permitted to learn Arabic using either, if necessary, volunteer instructors and/or self-study material. Muslim prisoners should also be allowed to meet with Islamic religious leaders to facilitate their study of the religion.” Presumably they would meet those instructors, and with those Islamic religious leaders, either as a group, or individually, in both cases not in prison cells but in the prison library, or perhaps a meeting room made available for the instruction in both Arabic and in Islam. How much extra time out of cells will all that add up to? It seems that the Muslim prisoners are indeed favored. This is in addition to the extra time they might have out of their cells if the group prayer is approved for more than once a week at Friday noon. If they are allowed group prayer for every one of the five daily prayers, it would be an extra 75 minutes every day, except Friday, when the total time might be as much as 90-110 minutes (given the Friday sermon). And I haven’t added the time they might be out of their cells for instruction in Arabic or in Islam. There’s a whole lot of Islam going on in the prisons of the Western world. Certainly non-Muslim prisoners are right to think that Muslims are being allowed more time out of their cells.

Prison authorities can certainly grant an identical length of time out of their cells to non-Muslim prisoners. However much time the Muslim prisoners are granted out of their cells for group prayer and the Friday sermon, the same amount of time ought to be granted to non-Muslim prisoners. The non-Muslim prisoners could engage in playing cards or chess, or spending time on the library computers, or group Bible study (the reinforcement of Christian belief, as a counterweight to Da’wa, is surely to be encouraged. And Christian ministers ought to be as much in evidence as are the imams in our prisons), in the time allotted. Again, if Muslim prisoners complain about the “unfairness” of this, prison authorities can explain that there is nothing unfair about making sure that all the prisoners have available the same amount of time outside of their cells. This is just an attempt to remedy what has been an unequal situation.

This may seem like a trivial matter. But we all know that in the West many prisoners have been converting to Islam. Some do it out of conviction. Some do it out of fear. Some do it, as the deplorable Duke did years ago, to obtain more food, while still others may want as much time outside their cells as Muslim prisoners have been granted. Whatever the reasons, it’s important to make sure that prison life is not perceived as better for Muslim than for non-Muslim prisoners. Nothing should be done to make Islam a more attractive option. Since we are prevented from tilting it in our favor, at least let’s make sure to keep that playing field level. Right now, the Western world, in its inattention, is giving Islam an unfair advantage in its prisons. And not just in its prisons."


https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/hugh ... -in-prison

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 8th, 2017, 4:29 am
by Elizabeth
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at- ... 1c5af4aa81


To think our Governments supported allowing these Muslims into our countries.

http://www.news.com.au/world/australian ... ed3282e5e4

"Burn them in their homes.
In the video, Abu Adam extols Muslims in Australia to join the fight in The Philippines to liberate Marawi, a city seized in June by militants claiming to be linked to Islamic State.
He attacks the Australian government for providing support for the Philippines government in its fight against his ‘brothers’.
Abu adam calls on all Australian Muslims who cannot make it to Marawi to instead “make the lands of the Crusaders your battlefields” — by launching a series of “just terror attacks” at home.
And he details how.
A series of graphics are overlayed against the wall beside him, detailing potential easily-accessible weapons to use in terror attacks.
Among the ‘weapons of choice’ are nail guns and trucks. An image of a petrol can flashes up as he urges supporters to “burn them in their homes”
An earlier video released last week showed an Islamic State jihadist with a British accent sitting in a similar tower in the besieged capital of the caliphate, urging Muslims the world over to rise up in support."

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 9th, 2017, 8:32 am
by Elizabeth
“House of War: Islam’s Jihad Against the World” conveys what the West needs to know about Islam and the violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures and systems of government
http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/mosque-invas ... ZUSqpu4.99

WASHINGTON – Many Muslim immigrants express a sentiment of entitlement, believing they one day will replace the natives and the land in which they are strangers will come under the authority of Islamic law.
It’s already happening in France, according to a report published by the Gatestone Institute by Giuliu Meotti, cultural editor for Il Folgio.
He says, in the last 30 years, more mosques and Muslim prayer centers “have been built in France than all the Catholic churches built in the last century.”
At the same time, Christian churches are being bulldozed.
Meotti notes that France has laws protecting old trees, but “the state is free to flatten old Christian churches” and “the vacuums created in the French landscape are already being filled by the booming mosques.”
“House of War: Islam’s Jihad Against the World” conveys what the West needs to know about Islam and the violent, expansionist ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures and systems of government
France is able to demolish old churches because the government appropriated all church property and the cost of maintaining them in 1907, the Gatestone Institute report said.
But local officials are reluctant to spend money on the buildings, so they are being turned in activity centers, offices, apartments and even mosques. Or, they simply are being demolished.
France could lose 5,000 to 10,000 religious buildings by 2030, according to a report from the Observatory of Religious Heritage.
Seven churches were demolished in France in 2016 alone.
The same year, Father Jacques Hamel died at the hands of ISIS-allied terrorists at the foot of the altar while celebrating morning Mass in Normandy, France. He had served as a priest for almost six decades.
But just weeks after Hamel’s death, French police interrupted a Mass at the Church of Santa Rita, dragging priests out of the cathedral by their legs, to prepare for the church’s demolishment.
It’s now a parking lot.
Last month, a wrecking crew bulldozed the Saint-Nicaise Church’s presbytery after the local authorities claimed the weight of its bells were a safety hazard.
A few days later, the Chapel of Saint Martin in Sablé-sur-Sarthe, the famed cathedral that was built in 1880-1886, was replaced with a parking lot.
Some 20 churches are reportedly sold and converted in France every year, the report said.
And according to Patrimoine-en-blog, a website that provides regular inventory of demolished churches, 26 churches were put up for sale in 2016 and 12 churches in 2015.
Meanwhile, nearly indiscriminate construction of mosques is being allowed, the report said, even subsidized.
“The municipality of Evreux voted for the provision of 5,000 square meters of land, for one symbolic euro, for the project of the Union of the Muslim faith,” a report said.
In fact, journalist Elizabeth Schemia details how French mayors have now become “builders of mosques.”
Meotti said that recently police shot a Muslim outside a cathedral after he tried to attack them with a hammer. And there was another terror cell that was foiled in a planned attack on Notre Dame.
“France’s most famous Catholic house of worship is a prime target for the jihadists. At the same time, France has been dismissing the religious and cultural heritage of France’s Catholic patrimony, which, in a time of religious clashes and revival, should instead be protected as treasures and sources of strength,” he said.
Officials note France has the second largest Muslim population in Europe after Germany. Pew Research estimated in 2016 that France had a Muslim population of 4.71 million, comprising 7.5 percent of the French population.
In 2030, the Muslim population of France will be 10.3 percent and in Britain 8.2 percent, according to Pew.
Citing a report by the magazine Valeurs Actuelles, Meotti pointed out that nearly two new mosques are developed per week as the Muslim population rapidly grows in France.
“Nearly 2,400 mosques today, compared to 1,500 in 2003, is the most visible sign of the rapid growth of Islam in France, a consequence of a population of immigrant origin and the process of strong re-Islamization,” Valeurs Actuelles noted in an article warning about Islamic “invasion.”
Earlier this month, the archbishop of Strasbourg warned that France’s large Muslim population combined with its high birth rate and migration will soon lead to the country’s cultural demise.
“Muslim believers know very well that their birth rate is such that today, they call it … the Great Replacement,” the archbishop told Valeurs Actuelles. “They tell you in a very calm, very positive way that, ‘One day, all this, it will be ours.'”
Concluded Meotti: “Cowardly French authorities would never treat Islam as they are now treating Christianity. Marine Le Pen pointedly asked: ‘What if we built parking lots on top of Salafist mosques, instead of our churches?'”


http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/mosque-invas ... ZUSqpu4.99

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 9th, 2017, 6:43 pm
by Elizabeth
"Islamist militants or Islamist-inspired attackers have killed more than 230 people on French soil since January 2015, including one attack on Paris and another on the Riviera city of Nice.

Operation Sentinel has put heavily armed combat troops in public view as they patrol key sites in military fatigues, at an annual cost running into hundreds of millions of euros."

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 9th, 2017, 8:31 pm
by Silver
Elizabeth wrote: August 9th, 2017, 6:43 pm "Islamist militants or Islamist-inspired attackers have killed more than 230 people on French soil since January 2015, including one attack on Paris and another on the Riviera city of Nice.

Operation Sentinel has put heavily armed combat troops in public view as they patrol key sites in military fatigues, at an annual cost running into hundreds of millions of euros."
Western sanctions on Iraq killed 500,000 children, Elizabeth, but who's counting, eh? Just go throw another shrimp on the barbie and enjoy your hatemongering.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm
by Elizabeth
Nonsense Silver. Immigration of terrorists, violent criminals, ungrateful disruptive welfare recipients, those of another race and of Islamic faith is not acceptable nor the answer to whatever it is you consider to be the cause. Africans should stay in Africa where they belong, and Muslims in Islamic countries.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 9th, 2017, 9:28 pm
by Silver
Elizabeth wrote: August 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm Nonsense Silver. Immigration of terrorists, violent criminals, ungrateful disruptive welfare recipients, those of another race and of Islamic faith is not acceptable nor the answer to whatever it is you consider to be the cause. Africans should stay in Africa where they belong, and Muslims in Islamic countries.
You will regret your words someday. Very ironic for a white person in Australia to say such a horrible thing as that.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 11:47 am
by Rensai
Elizabeth wrote: August 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm Nonsense Silver. Immigration of terrorists, violent criminals, ungrateful disruptive welfare recipients, those of another race and of Islamic faith is not acceptable nor the answer to whatever it is you consider to be the cause. Africans should stay in Africa where they belong, and Muslims in Islamic countries.
But look at all the cultural enrichment they are bringing to europe...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19565/lon ... enshapiro#
A burn surgeon based in London is warning that acid attacks have reached "epidemic" levels in the U.K.

"We are now at levels that one of my colleagues described as epidemic," Dr. Martin Niall told National Public Radio (NPR) earlier this week. "Everyone, ourselves included, has been shocked by this emerging threat to public health."

As previously reported by The Daily Wire, London has been particularly plagued with such barbaric attacks, with over 1,800 reports of the crime since 2010. Moreover, as noted by NPR, "London's Metropolitan Police have recorded more than 100 attacks in the first four months of this year, many in East London."

And the rate of such attacks is picking up pace: "Last year it was used in 454 crimes, compared to 261 in 2015, according to Met Police figures," reported the BBC in March.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 11:51 am
by Silver
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:47 am
Elizabeth wrote: August 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm Nonsense Silver. Immigration of terrorists, violent criminals, ungrateful disruptive welfare recipients, those of another race and of Islamic faith is not acceptable nor the answer to whatever it is you consider to be the cause. Africans should stay in Africa where they belong, and Muslims in Islamic countries.
But look at all the cultural enrichment they are bringing to europe...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19565/lon ... enshapiro#
A burn surgeon based in London is warning that acid attacks have reached "epidemic" levels in the U.K.

"We are now at levels that one of my colleagues described as epidemic," Dr. Martin Niall told National Public Radio (NPR) earlier this week. "Everyone, ourselves included, has been shocked by this emerging threat to public health."

As previously reported by The Daily Wire, London has been particularly plagued with such barbaric attacks, with over 1,800 reports of the crime since 2010. Moreover, as noted by NPR, "London's Metropolitan Police have recorded more than 100 attacks in the first four months of this year, many in East London."

And the rate of such attacks is picking up pace: "Last year it was used in 454 crimes, compared to 261 in 2015, according to Met Police figures," reported the BBC in March.
Hey boys and girls, let's look at what happens when the US decides to enact a little regime change. Of course, the Muslim-haters always develop selective amnesia when they point out the bad stuff extremists do.
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Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 1:35 pm
by Rensai
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:51 am
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:47 am
Elizabeth wrote: August 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm Nonsense Silver. Immigration of terrorists, violent criminals, ungrateful disruptive welfare recipients, those of another race and of Islamic faith is not acceptable nor the answer to whatever it is you consider to be the cause. Africans should stay in Africa where they belong, and Muslims in Islamic countries.
But look at all the cultural enrichment they are bringing to europe...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19565/lon ... enshapiro#
A burn surgeon based in London is warning that acid attacks have reached "epidemic" levels in the U.K.

"We are now at levels that one of my colleagues described as epidemic," Dr. Martin Niall told National Public Radio (NPR) earlier this week. "Everyone, ourselves included, has been shocked by this emerging threat to public health."

As previously reported by The Daily Wire, London has been particularly plagued with such barbaric attacks, with over 1,800 reports of the crime since 2010. Moreover, as noted by NPR, "London's Metropolitan Police have recorded more than 100 attacks in the first four months of this year, many in East London."

And the rate of such attacks is picking up pace: "Last year it was used in 454 crimes, compared to 261 in 2015, according to Met Police figures," reported the BBC in March.
Hey boys and girls, let's look at what happens when the US decides to enact a little regime change. Of course, the Muslim-haters always develop selective amnesia when they point out the bad stuff extremists do.

Aleppo.jpg
It has nothing to do with selective amnesia, but rather the fact that your point is completely invalid and off topic as usual. No one is arguing that US led regime change is good. You keep trying to interject it into threads that have nothing to do with that. You seem to mistakenly believe that we must be perfect before we're allowed to recognize an evil and criticize it. Yes, US/UN regime change is bad, but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate or allow muslims into our countries to make things even worse. We can be against both, its not mutually exclusive. You seem to think you can somehow make amends for one evil (bad US policy) by promoting or allowing another (ISLAM invasion). That is just a terrible idea. We should stand against any and all evils period.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 1:41 pm
by Silver
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:35 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:51 am
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:47 am
Elizabeth wrote: August 9th, 2017, 9:15 pm Nonsense Silver. Immigration of terrorists, violent criminals, ungrateful disruptive welfare recipients, those of another race and of Islamic faith is not acceptable nor the answer to whatever it is you consider to be the cause. Africans should stay in Africa where they belong, and Muslims in Islamic countries.
But look at all the cultural enrichment they are bringing to europe...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19565/lon ... enshapiro#
A burn surgeon based in London is warning that acid attacks have reached "epidemic" levels in the U.K.

"We are now at levels that one of my colleagues described as epidemic," Dr. Martin Niall told National Public Radio (NPR) earlier this week. "Everyone, ourselves included, has been shocked by this emerging threat to public health."

As previously reported by The Daily Wire, London has been particularly plagued with such barbaric attacks, with over 1,800 reports of the crime since 2010. Moreover, as noted by NPR, "London's Metropolitan Police have recorded more than 100 attacks in the first four months of this year, many in East London."

And the rate of such attacks is picking up pace: "Last year it was used in 454 crimes, compared to 261 in 2015, according to Met Police figures," reported the BBC in March.
Hey boys and girls, let's look at what happens when the US decides to enact a little regime change. Of course, the Muslim-haters always develop selective amnesia when they point out the bad stuff extremists do.

Aleppo.jpg
It has nothing to do with selective amnesia, but rather the fact that your point is completely invalid and off topic as usual. No one is arguing that US led regime change is good. You keep trying to interject it into threads that have nothing to do with that. You seem to mistakenly believe that we must be perfect before we're allowed to recognize an evil and criticize it. Yes, US/UN regime change is bad, but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate or allow muslims into our countries to make things even worse. We can be against both, its not mutually exclusive. You seem to think you can somehow make amends for one evil (bad US policy) by promoting or allowing another (ISLAM invasion). That is just a terrible idea. We should stand against any and all evils period.
You should have your hands full correcting the evils in America before you go crusading against an obvious minority extremist view in Islam. Beam vs. mote kind of stuff. Get it?

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 1:50 pm
by Rensai
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:41 pm
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:35 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:51 am
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:47 am

But look at all the cultural enrichment they are bringing to europe...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19565/lon ... enshapiro#

Hey boys and girls, let's look at what happens when the US decides to enact a little regime change. Of course, the Muslim-haters always develop selective amnesia when they point out the bad stuff extremists do.

Aleppo.jpg
It has nothing to do with selective amnesia, but rather the fact that your point is completely invalid and off topic as usual. No one is arguing that US led regime change is good. You keep trying to interject it into threads that have nothing to do with that. You seem to mistakenly believe that we must be perfect before we're allowed to recognize an evil and criticize it. Yes, US/UN regime change is bad, but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate or allow muslims into our countries to make things even worse. We can be against both, its not mutually exclusive. You seem to think you can somehow make amends for one evil (bad US policy) by promoting or allowing another (ISLAM invasion). That is just a terrible idea. We should stand against any and all evils period.
You should have your hands full correcting the evils in America before you go crusading against an obvious minority extremist view in Islam. Beam vs. mote kind of stuff. Get it?
Umm, that's exactly what I'm trying to do, keep them out of america. I've consistently told you I am not in favor of attacking them in their own countries.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 1:53 pm
by Silver
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:50 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:41 pm
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:35 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 11:51 am

Hey boys and girls, let's look at what happens when the US decides to enact a little regime change. Of course, the Muslim-haters always develop selective amnesia when they point out the bad stuff extremists do.

Aleppo.jpg
It has nothing to do with selective amnesia, but rather the fact that your point is completely invalid and off topic as usual. No one is arguing that US led regime change is good. You keep trying to interject it into threads that have nothing to do with that. You seem to mistakenly believe that we must be perfect before we're allowed to recognize an evil and criticize it. Yes, US/UN regime change is bad, but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate or allow muslims into our countries to make things even worse. We can be against both, its not mutually exclusive. You seem to think you can somehow make amends for one evil (bad US policy) by promoting or allowing another (ISLAM invasion). That is just a terrible idea. We should stand against any and all evils period.
You should have your hands full correcting the evils in America before you go crusading against an obvious minority extremist view in Islam. Beam vs. mote kind of stuff. Get it?
Umm, that's exactly what I'm trying to do, keep them out of america. I've consistently told you I am not in favor of attacking them in their own countries.
Nah, that's hard to believe at this point. Your posts have been about besmirching all of Islam when you should be raging against the Gadiantons in the West who are bombing Muslims which force them to seek refuge in other countries or, in the worst of cases, force them to seek revenge.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 6:16 pm
by Rensai
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:53 pm
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:50 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:41 pm
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:35 pm
It has nothing to do with selective amnesia, but rather the fact that your point is completely invalid and off topic as usual. No one is arguing that US led regime change is good. You keep trying to interject it into threads that have nothing to do with that. You seem to mistakenly believe that we must be perfect before we're allowed to recognize an evil and criticize it. Yes, US/UN regime change is bad, but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate or allow muslims into our countries to make things even worse. We can be against both, its not mutually exclusive. You seem to think you can somehow make amends for one evil (bad US policy) by promoting or allowing another (ISLAM invasion). That is just a terrible idea. We should stand against any and all evils period.
You should have your hands full correcting the evils in America before you go crusading against an obvious minority extremist view in Islam. Beam vs. mote kind of stuff. Get it?
Umm, that's exactly what I'm trying to do, keep them out of america. I've consistently told you I am not in favor of attacking them in their own countries.
Nah, that's hard to believe at this point. Your posts have been about besmirching all of Islam when you should be raging against the Gadiantons in the West who are bombing Muslims which force them to seek refuge in other countries or, in the worst of cases, force them to seek revenge.
I really don't care what you believe. If you want to call me a liar, we're done. You've been a first rate Jerk in almost every post you've made. You're on my ignore list from now on.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 10th, 2017, 7:15 pm
by Silver
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 6:16 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:53 pm
Rensai wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:50 pm
Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:41 pm

You should have your hands full correcting the evils in America before you go crusading against an obvious minority extremist view in Islam. Beam vs. mote kind of stuff. Get it?
Umm, that's exactly what I'm trying to do, keep them out of america. I've consistently told you I am not in favor of attacking them in their own countries.
Nah, that's hard to believe at this point. Your posts have been about besmirching all of Islam when you should be raging against the Gadiantons in the West who are bombing Muslims which force them to seek refuge in other countries or, in the worst of cases, force them to seek revenge.
I really don't care what you believe. If you want to call me a liar, we're done. You've been a first rate Jerk in almost every post you've made. You're on my ignore list from now on.
Truth hurts.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 11th, 2017, 4:39 am
by Elizabeth
http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/easy-meat-ma ... slim-gang/

"The law-enforcement effort to take down the grooming gang, “Operation Sanctuary,” was the largest and “most complex” sex-abuse investigation in the history of the Northumbria police, according to Chief Constable Steve Ashman.

The case has startling similarities to other accounts of other “grooming gangs” in the U.K., the most well-known of which is the Rotherham scandal in which at least 300 Muslim men groomed young girls for sex over a 16-year period.

An investigation into the abuse in Rotherham found that at least 1,400 children were sexually exploited between 1997 and 2013, according to Sky News.

A report on the Rotherham scandal by professor Alexis Jay recounted how white British girls, some as young as 11, were raped, trafficked and emotionally and physically abused, predominantly by Pakistani men.

Jay criticized local authorities for failing to prevent the mass-rape of children, calling the lack of action a “blatant” failure.

WND has reported extensively on the Rotherham scandal, particularly the Muslim roots of the crisis and the ensuing police cover-up. Many in British law enforcement refuse to investigate claims of Muslim rape to avoid being accused of racism."


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/easy-meat-ma ... Ih5HmpE.99

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 11th, 2017, 10:47 am
by gardener4life
Unfortunately this thread is too big for me to look at every page to check if this is already up. But I would have you all look at these two videos. They are absolutely stunning in understanding what's going on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-oi-9pKwY

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 11th, 2017, 11:05 am
by Silver
gardener4life wrote: August 11th, 2017, 10:47 am Unfortunately this thread is too big for me to look at every page to check if this is already up. But I would have you all look at these two videos. They are absolutely stunning in understanding what's going on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-oi-9pKwY
Never trust a guy wearing a bowtie.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 11th, 2017, 12:14 pm
by Rensai
gardener4life wrote: August 11th, 2017, 10:47 am Unfortunately this thread is too big for me to look at every page to check if this is already up. But I would have you all look at these two videos. They are absolutely stunning in understanding what's going on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d-oi-9pKwY
Yeah, Bill Warner has some good info and knows a lot about ISLAM. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 14th, 2017, 8:23 pm
by Elizabeth
http://conservativetribune.com/al-qaeda ... tyalliance

"Al Qaeda has issued orders for jihadists to target a new form of transportation in America, and it could have devastating results.

In an upcoming edition of its terror magazine, Inspire, the group is calling on militants to target trains and subways, The Washington Times reported.

The terrorist group released a video explaining the instructions on train derailment with devices “made from readily available materials,” terrorism expert Rita Katz noted on Twitter following the video’s release.Issue No. 17 of the magazine is titled “Train Derail Operations,” and it will reportedly provide instructions on how to create rail disasters in a system that lacks the kind of tight security measures seen with airline travel.

“The trailer highlights that derailments are simple to design using easily available materials, that such a planned attack can be hard to detect, and that the outcome can substantially damage a country’s transportation sector and the Western economy in general,” the Middle East Media Research Institute reported Friday, according to The Times.

The New York Post reported that while the United States has more than 100,000 miles of railway lines, the video appeared to focus on subway trains.The Post reported that the video showed subway cars traveling through tunnels, but it was unclear which cities were targeted.

The video also quoted a U.S. Government Accountability Office report on how rail lines are particularly vulnerable to disruption because of a lack of tightened security measures.

The Post also pointed out that passengers in New York City can board a train at Grand Central or Penn Station or board any subway without being screened except for random inspections.

This new Al Qaeda order could lead to disastrous results We need to wipe these barbarians off the face of the earth before they harm more innocents."

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: August 24th, 2017, 2:36 am
by Elizabeth
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/vide ... ree-speech
The SPLC and the Left’s war on free speech
AUGUST 23, 2017 2:22 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER

Jihad in the Netherlands: Concert of "Allah-Las" rock band called off as cops find bus "packed with gas canisters".

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: September 1st, 2017, 3:04 am
by Elizabeth
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/cana ... e-graffiti

"According to an officer on the scene, someone started to write the words “Islamic State will rema[in],” in black spray paint on a wall outside the church.
It is reprehensible when any place of worship is vandalized; this is the second such incident recently in Ontario. A Burlington Church sustained “heavy damages” from a fire only two weeks ago, and “ISIS” was spray-painted on the building.

There should be a loud outcry in Canada over these two acts against Christian churches in such close proximity, both of which were marked with Islamic State graffiti. The Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, spoke out after a mosque fire in Ontario last year, and that is good. Unfortunately, no such statement has come from Trudeau or his government regarding the church fire or the Islamic State graffiti. The silence is deafening and sends a loud message. Intolerance apparently is recognised only in one direction."

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 6:04 am
by Elizabeth
http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/ex-muslim-we ... -islamism/


"A former Muslim who is warning America that Islamists are establishing “no-go zones,” neighborhoods run by Islamic Shariah law, says social-welfare programs contribute to the problem.

Such “help” facilitates a “huge swathe of people not doing anything,” he explained in an interview with Greg Corombos of Radio America.

“All day every day [there are] men hanging on street corners, in the cafes, outside smoking, drinking tea, chatting, going back and forth between the mosque and the café,” said author Raheem Kassam, who has just released “No Go Zones: How Sharia Law Is Coming to a Neighborhood Near You.”

He explains such no-go zones already are a problem across Europe, and he sees the beginnings of the same troubles in America.

He said the radicals are being forced by the socialist programs in Europe into the circumstances that cause them to “live lives devoid of work, and joy and freedom.”

And he sees the same influences developing in America.

For example, he points out that a museum in the area of Dearborn, Michigan, which has a large Muslim population, already is “undermining the U.S. government” and mocking the president and the vice president.

It features, he charged, “nothing more than anti-Israel propaganda.
As part of his research, he visited many existing no-go zones across Europe.

“I could not pick and choose when I wanted to be there, it was just whenever I could arrive, it was the middle of the night in many cases, it was whenever the train or the plane arrived,” he said.

WND reported “No Go Zones: How Sharia Law Is Coming to a Neighborhood Near You” warns America is making the same immigration mistakes now on full display in Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.

There, almost daily reports of attacks by Muslim immigrants, often with knives or vehicles, are reported.

The book is based on Kassam’s travels to 14 cities with notorious no-go zones. They include the Molenbeek area of Brussels and the Rosengard section in Malmo, Sweden, where outsiders, including police, dare not tread.

In the Alum Rock neighborhood of Birmingham, England, graffiti on the side of a building read “No whites allowed after 8 p.m.”

What Kassam found in every one of his destinations was poverty, crime and extreme ghettoization, often not far from a posh area of the city."

http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/ex-muslim-we ... Q6BU0et.99

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: September 5th, 2017, 6:14 am
by Elizabeth
http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/u-s-pastor-i ... eign-land/

An American pastor imprisoned in Turkey for nearly a year on what his supporters say are false charges related to terrorism now faces new charges of espionage, in a widening case that has Christians demanding tough action from the Trump administration.
Andrew Brunson, a Presbyterian pastor living in Turkey since 1993, faces four new charges including espionage, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.
This is the latest sign that the tiny Christian minority in Turkey – which is 99 percent Muslim – now lives in a climate of growing uncertainty and fear. It comes on the heels of an announcement just two months ago that the Turkish government had seized ownership of 50 churches nationwide.
Turkey, once held up as an example of moderate Islam friendly to Western values, has been sliding backward in recent years. The latest crackdowns on Christianity signal an acceleration of its return to Islamic Sharia law under the regime of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The last time Turkey was ruled by Sharia, under the Ottoman Empire, it slaughtered more than 1.5 million Christians of Greek, Armenian and Syrian descent.

Pastor Bronson led a church in the city of Izmir. He has been detained since last October but has now been accused of espionage and attempting to overthrow the Turkish government, charges that could bring life in prison and possibly even the death penalty if he is convicted. The pastor is a U.S. citizen from North Carolina but has lived in Turkey since 1993.
By refusing to release Brunson and now tacking on espionage charges, the Turkish government led by Erdogan appears to be sending a message to both its own people and the outside world that Turkey is indeed now an Islamic state and will not tolerate Christian evangelizing, say legal experts and fellow missionaries in the United States. The announcement of the new charges came amid an ongoing crackdown on Christian activity, all of which followed the attempted coup of July 2016.
Barbabas Aid, which aides persecuted Christians worldwide, reported as early as November 2016 “a climate of growing instability and persecution of Christians in Turkey.”
Brunson lived and ministered in the modern-day town of Izmir, which was once the biblical city of Smyrna.

"Christian author/filmmaker Joel Richardson traveled to Turkey in 2015 to capture documentary footage of Erdogan’s transformation of Turkey from a Western-friendly nation in the mold of Ataturk into an Islamic state.
He urges all Christians to contact the Trump administration and demand action.
“When Said Abedini was imprisoned in Iran, the outcry from American Christians calling upon the Obama administration to demand his release was quite loud and clear,” Richardson told WND.
“Here we have a nation, Turkey, that is alleged to be an ally, a NATO member, who has illegally imprisoned an American pastor on what are clearly bogus charges and few in the Christian community are raising their voice to call upon President Trump to demand his immediate release,” he continued.
Erdogan has openly bragged about imprisoning foreign citizens for the purpose of using them as bargaining chips to secure the extradition of his enemies, Richardson said.

One “enemy” Erdogan may be demanding from the United States is Fethula Mohamed Gulen, a rival Islamist living in the Pocono Mountains of eastern Pennsylvania. From his gated fortress in the Poconos, Gulen runs the second largest chain of charter schools in America, but he is accused of subversive activities back home in Turkey.
“American citizens are not political pawns,” Richardson said of Brunson. “President Trump must call out Turkish President Erdogan and demand Pastor Brunson’s immediate release. It’s been far too long.”
Jay Sekulow’s American Center for Law and Justice has also sent out two email alerts on the Brunson situation over the long holiday weekend, asking his supporters to sign a petition demanding the pastor’s freedom.

“These new, more serious, and demonstrably false charges carry significantly stiffer punishments, if convicted. American Pastor Andrew Brunson’s dire situation has intensified. He is in grave danger,” Sekulow said in the email.
After 322 days of wrongful imprisonment in Turkey under the “absurd charge of armed membership in a terrorist organization, Pastor Andrew urgently needs your prayers and voice more than ever,” Sekulow said.
“We are demanding his immediate release. He has committed no crime. He suffers only because of his faith in Jesus Christ. He must be reunited with his family.”
But there is hope. Under new presidential powers, President Erdogan has the power to return prisoners to their home countries, Sekulow says.

“Take urgent action with us as we aggressively fight for his freedom across the globe.”
A recent report on Turkey by the European Commission highlighted the ongoing persecution of Christians, stating: “Hate speech and hate crimes against Christians and Jews continued to be repeatedly reported.”
“Typical incidents recorded by churches include Islamic anti-Christian posters and graffiti being deliberately placed near church buildings, anonymous threats sent by text and email to church pastors, as well as physical attacks,” Barnabas Aid reports. “In many cases, no official action is taken by police, despite crimes being reported.”

Erdogan’s government has also presided over the conversion of the Istanbul landmark Haga Sophia shrine into a mosque. The iconic Byzantine structure is highly symbolic as it was originally built as Eastern Christianity’s most important church. It had operated as a museum but late last year the first Muslim call to prayer was heard inside the former church in 85 years.
Since the failed coup attempt in July 2016, the Turkish government has cracked down on Christian activity under the guise of “national security concerns.” Not only has the government arrested Brunson, but several other foreign nationals involved in Christian ministry have had their residence permits rescinded, and Turkish police have openly stated that the activities of Christian missionaries are now regarded as a security threat."

http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/u-s-pastor-i ... DoRA664.99

Re: Evil ISLAM. Isil, IS, Isis, Daesh.

Posted: September 6th, 2017, 2:14 am
by Elizabeth
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/musl ... iding-rome


"In a recent address, Salafi Jordanian cleric Abu Qatada Al-Filastini said that if Muslims adopt the “banner of true Islam,” they would be upholding an Islam that implements the prophecies about “entering each and every home” and “raiding Rome.” “There can be only one outcome: confrontation,” said Abu Qatada, whose real name is Omar Mahmoud Othman."