Idaho: Chinese Communist Invasion?

[moonwhim]

An article by the infamous Paul Drockton




Idaho: Chinese Communist Invasion?
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The Chinese Communist Party is the majority owner of a company that is looking to build a self-sustained city, with international airport, in Boise Idaho. The fact that the Chinese Communist Party also owns the Chinese military, and has made repeated threats against American interests, is lost on Idaho politicians.

"The proposal could get a boost from this year’s voter-approved constitutional amendment that allows the airport to borrow money to build facilities that can be leased to companies on a long-term basis. The airport commission also has the authority to grant long-term leases and landing rights to air carriers, including those from China." (Source)

The fact that Chinese Communists would have the ability to bring in military equipment undetected, if such a lease were given, seems to escape the Governor of the State of Idaho, who visited China and extended the offer to the Communists to do business in his state.

For those of you wondering how many American jobs this proposal would create, the answer is zero, nada, none. In essence we are talking about a Communist Chinese, self-contained community, on American soil. Other Idaho projects seem equally mystifying.

The Idaho Regional Center, a company developing the Gold Hill Mine near Placerville and Blackhawk on the River near McCall, has millions of dollars in escrow from Chinese investors awaiting approval of green cards from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Once approved, the money will be released and the gold processing plant is expected to go into production, said Sima Muroff, head of the regional center.

Several other regional centers have started in the state. They allow investors a chance to get green cards in exchange for investments of $500,000 to $1 million.

In the United States, it is possibly to invest in foreign companies without becoming a citizen of their country. The fact that the money from these Chinese Communist "investors" is conditioned on their being approved for Green Card's should also raise a few eyebrows. A simple Visa would allow them to visit their mining property.

These colonization efforts, at a time when the situation in North Korea could escalate into World War III, seem to be dubious at best. China is preparing for war with the United States and its Asian Allies:

"CHINA is preparing for conflict ''in every direction'', its Defence Minister says.

''In the coming five years, our military will push forward preparations for military conflict in every strategic direction,'' General Liang Guanglie said in an interview published by state-backed newspapers in China.

''We may be living in peaceful times, but we can never forget war, never send the horses south or put the bayonets and guns away.'' (Source)

These Chinese Communist business ventures on American show very little benefit, if any, for the America Economy. Communist Chinese Communities employing, well, Chinese Communists to compete with American businesesses that hire American workers just seems like a bad idea.

"A year ago, China froze substantive military relations in protest at US arms sales to Taiwan and relations deteriorated further this summer when China objected to US plans to deploy a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS George Washington, in the Yellow Sea off the Korean Peninsula.

China also announced this month it was preparing to launch its own aircraft carrier next year. The news emerged a year earlier than many US defence analysts had predicted.

China is also working on a ballistic missile that could sink aircraft carriers from afar, fundamentally reordering the balance of power in a region dominated by the US since the end of World War II." (Ibid)

Keeping your friends close and your enemies closer might not be the best policy for the people of Idaho. While the average American continues to endure the humiliation of TSA strip-searches and pat downs, giving a known enemy unimpeded access to your international airports, without any oversight, seems a little out of whack.

[dconrad000]

...very interesting...thanks for posting that, Moonwhim.


...and disturbing...

[moonwhim]

Chinese Company Sinomach Poised To Takeover Boise



Jason Douglass
Infowars.com
January 14, 2011

With a population just over 200K, Boise Idaho is a small but industrious town. Several U.S. companies are headquartered in Boise including URS Corporation. One of the great Pacific-Northwest cities, Boise is similar to many American towns of its size.

In response to the ‘economic downturn’ Idaho Gov. Butch Otter traveled to China to drum up interest in Idaho.

China has been quickly climbing the ladder of superpowers, surpassing Japan for the number two position in 2010 and has been consistently gobbling up U.S. debt.

Sinomach, the third largest Chinese contractor, answered Gov. Otter’s invitation and is currently in negotiations to build a 30k acre technology zone south of the Boise airport.

The plan, according to an article in the Idaho Statesman, is to build on the Chinese model of self contained cities with all services included.

Because Idaho’s aggressive approach, they are leaving themselves wide open to negative the impacts a deal of this magnitude and focus could manifest.

“Whatever makes the deal go forward,” Jeff Don CEO of Eagle-based C3 told the Statesman.

According to Statesman, the state constitution has even been amended to allow the Boise airport to borrow money to build facilities:

“The proposal could get a boost from this year’s voter-approved constitutional amendment that allows the airport to borrow money to build facilities that can be leased to companies on a long-term basis. The airport commission also has the authority to grant long-term leases and landing rights to air carriers, including those from China.”

There are plenty of figures as to how many people will be employed by the proposed venture, but there are no specific assurances that those numbers represent American workers.

“Anything we can do to work toward having good industry opportunities for investment is important whether we get a piece of that work,” Doug Sayer president and CEO of Premier Technology said.

Furthermore, veiled threats contained within the article by the Statesman outlining the plan inform readers that if they don’t accept these deals, Chinese companies will simply bring their money to other out-of-state locations.

“Sinomach is not looking only at Idaho. The company sent delegations to Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania this year to talk about setting up research and development bases and industrial parks.”

As the designed implosion of the U.S. economy continues, states and cities will be forced to welcome opportunistic foreign interests in a last ditch effort save their troubled economies. Like a wounded animal squealing in dark, predators will begin to descend and feed on the easy target; even as the prey fights to live.


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[dconrad000]

...yeah, that's a good follow-up article...saw that at Infowars earlier today...what people will stoop to, in the name of stimulating the economy, eh?...the new NSA center in Salt Lake also comes to mind.

[Elias Returns]

Prophecy being fulfilled??????.......the Chinese will attack and take over the western part of the Unites Sates.

[Songbird]

I read this today on page five of the "foreboding" thread posted by Mummy, he quotes Charles D Evans:

A foreign power had inroaded the nation, which, from every human indication, it appeared would seize the government and supplant it with monarchy. I stood trembling at the aspect, when, lo, a power arose in the west which declared itself in favor of the Constitution in its original form; to this suddenly rising power, every lover of constitutional rights and liberties throughout the nation gave hearty support. The struggle was fiercely contested, but the Stars and Stripes floated in the breeze, and bidding defiance to all opposition, waved proudly over the land.

Wowzers on how it fits with what is happening in Idaho. Who says it isn't happening elsewhere, but just hasn't come to the surface....?

[buffalo_girl]

I guess we have contributed to this state of affairs by selling our birthright nation for a mess of Walmart pottage.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... f-the-past" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hu called the U.S. dollar's role as the world's main currency a "product of the past" and called for an international financial system that is more "fair, just, inclusive and well-managed," the Journal reports.

[buffalo_girl]

All I know about North Korea, Russia and China is that the 'big boys' who run everything made damn sure the totalitarian communist regimes had absolutely everything necessary to be a preeminent threat to the United States.

Just a game, I guess.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/ma ... northkorea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Home/Archiv ... id=3176922" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Feb 24, 2003 - 08:51

Rumsfeld was on ABB board during deal with North Korea

Donald Rumsfeld, the US secretary of defence, was on the board of technology giant ABB when it won a deal to supply North Korea with two nuclear power plants.
Weapons experts say waste material from the two reactors could be used for so-called “dirty bombs”.

The Swiss-based ABB on Friday told swissinfo that Rumsfeld was involved with the company in early 2000, when it netted a $200 million (SFr270million) contract with Pyongyang.

The ABB contract was to deliver equipment and services for two nuclear power stations at Kumho, on North Korea's east coast.

[singyourwayhome]

A foreign power had inroaded the nation

I'm a curious person, so I wondered what, exactly, does "inroaded" mean? Online, I found:

INROAD:

an advance or penetration often at the expense of someone or something

Just some more food for thought.

I started a thread yesterday about this Chinese issue (since I didn't see this thread), it sounds like this is another of the Foreign Trade Zones, which, yes, are throughout the nation. To see where they are, click on http://ia.ita.doc.gov/ftzpage/letters/ftzlist-map.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

We won't even need the road to Nome and under-sea Alaska/Siberia tunnel to get them in the door...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/18/busin ... 40474.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wasn't there a vision about Russian and Chinese tanks coming in unmarked trucks prior to invasion?

This costly ridiculous infrastructure has to be a deliberate attempt to undermine our security. Without the road nobody could do much here as the Japs found out the hard way.

You're not alone Idaho! Of course we're a continents reach from there but...

[shadow]

I read this today on page five of the "foreboding" thread posted by Mummy, he quotes Charles D Evans:

A foreign power had inroaded the nation, which, from every human indication, it appeared would seize the government and supplant it with monarchy. I stood trembling at the aspect, when, lo, a power arose in the west which declared itself in favor of the Constitution in its original form; to this suddenly rising power, every lover of constitutional rights and liberties throughout the nation gave hearty support. The struggle was fiercely contested, but the Stars and Stripes floated in the breeze, and bidding defiance to all opposition, waved proudly over the land.

Wowzers on how it fits with what is happening in Idaho. Who says it isn't happening elsewhere, but just hasn't come to the surface....?

It is happening elsewhere, all across this nation.
"A foreign power had inroaded the nation..." Obama 8)

[davedan]

I was just in Idaho couple weeks ago and we were talking about the Idaho mentality. We have family who live there and those who do just love it.

People in Idaho just don't care about climbing the social or corporate ladder. I mean its Idaho, why even try when you live in Idaho. For those in the South, if a person were to say they were from Idaho, they just as well say they were from Mars. It would be a great place to live if it wasn't so windy and cold.

When it comes to rules and regulations, you can make up all the rules and restrictions and neighborhood covenants you want, but don't even try to impose those on your neighbor. I know people in Arizona who were are always complaining that this or that person is not keeping their neighborhood covenants. I know people in Idaho, who did the same kind of complaining, and it never got anywhere. If you want to park 10 cars in your front yard, that is your business.

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

My grandpa was from Idaho and he called them Idaho brush apes.

[Ras922]

China is in the process buying six square miles next to the Boise airport....

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

All while it remains illegal for us individually or collectively to buy one house in China...

[moonwhim]

Chinese company eyes Boise
As economic power shifts to Asia, Idaho’s location makes it a prime site for an industrial foothold.
BY ROCKY BARKER - [email protected]
Copyright: © 2010 Idaho Statesman
Published: 12/31/10

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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
AN IDAHO-CHINA UPDATE
Hoku Corp., a subsidiary of Tianwei New Energy Holdings Co, a Chinese company, has invested $270 million of the more than $400 million it expects to spend on its Pocatello plant to manufacture polysilicon for the solar market.

All of the polysilicon will be shipped back to China.

Idaho’s exports to China for the first three quarters of 2010 were $506 million, a 35 percent increase over 2009. Overall, Idaho imports rose to $3.8 billion from $2.7 billion in 2009. Idaho had $3.9 billion in three quarters in 2008.

The Idaho Regional Center, a company developing the Gold Hill Mine near Placerville and Blackhawk on the River near McCall, has millions of dollars in escrow from Chinese investors awaiting approval of green cards from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Once approved, the money will be released and the gold processing plant is expected to go into production, said Sima Muroff, head of the regional center.

Several other regional centers have started in the state. They allow investors a chance to get green cards in exchange for investments of $500,000 to $1 million.

The InvestIdaho Regional Center is expected to make an announcement next week. Two others, Idaho EB-5 Regional Center and the Idaho Global Investment Center in eastern Idaho, are organizing.

A Chinese national company is interested in developing a 10,000- to 30,000-acre technology zone for industry, retail centers and homes south of the Boise Airport.
Officials of the China National Machinery Industry Corp. have broached the idea — based on a concept popular in China today — to city and state leaders.
They are also interested in helping build and finance a fertilizer plant near American Falls, an idea company officials returned to Idaho this month to pursue.
This ambitious, long-term proposal would start with a manufacturing and warehouse zone tied to the airport, and could signify a shift in the economic relationship between the two superpowers — a relationship once defined by U.S. companies like the J.R. Simplot Co., Hewlett-Packard and Morrison-Knudsen that would head to China to build and develop.
“I think China’s coming over here shows they are willing to collaborate on the reinvigoration of the American industrial base,” said Jeff Don, CEO of Eagle-based C3, which is acting as an Idaho representative for the Chinese company, called Sinomach for short.
Sinomach is just one of an increasing number of companies and investors showing interest in Idaho.
Hoku Materials Inc., a subsidiary of a Chinese energy firm, already has 500 people building its $400 million plant to make polysilicon for solar panels in Pocatello. It expects to begin production in 2011, employing 250 people, said Scott Paul, Hoku’s president and CEO.
China surpassed Japan as the second largest economy in the world in 2010. And in June, Gov. Butch Otter traveled there to tell anyone who would listen that Idaho is open for business.
EAST IDAHO PROJECT COULD COME FIRST
Sinomach is China’s third-largest contractor, with more than $14 billion in sales last year. It has been active in more than 130 countries in Asia, Africa, Latin America, Russia and Eastern Europe as general contractor for large infrastructure and building projects.
Sinomach executives told Southeast Idaho Energy, which is planning to build a $2 billion fertilizer plant in Power County, they want the contract for engineering, procurement and construction. Their access to financing is their deal sweetener.
Southeast Idaho Energy hopes to turn coal into gas to produce nitrogen fertilizer and sulfur. The company expects to hire 700 to 1,000 people during construction with 150 permanent workers.
The company also would separate the carbon dioxide that contributes to climate change and ship it to Wyoming, where it can be pumped underground to enhance the extraction of natural gas.
While Otter was in Beijing in June, he spoke about the project with Jin Kening, chairman of the China National Chemical Engineering Corp. — a different government-owned company. Don said Chinese national companies do compete with each other, but won’t let their own competition get in the way.
“Whatever makes the deal go forward,” Don said.
Doug Sayer, president and CEO of Premier Technology, worked with Otter in Beijing to build long-term relationships with China National. His company could bid on some of the work to build the fertilizer plant.
“Anything we can do to work toward having good industry opportunities for investment is important whether we get a piece of that work,” Sayer said.
The state’s efforts have been critical to the discussions, said Pat Sullivan, a Boise lobbyist who works with Southeast Idaho Energy.
“One thing these Chinese see is we have a governor here who has a great big open-door policy, and I think that’s making a difference in this Sinomach project,” he said.
AN UNUSUAL IDEA THAT MAY BECOME COMMON
Sinomach is not looking only at Idaho.
The company sent delegations to Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania this year to talk about setting up research and development bases and industrial parks. It has an interest in electric transmission projects and alternative energy as well.
The technology zone proposal follows a model of science, technology and industrial parks in China — often fully contained cities with all services included.
But Don and other local supporters have recommended fitting the idea into the kind of planned unit development used for local approval here.
Sinomach officials met with Boise city and airport officials — including Mayor Dave Bieter — to discuss developing a first phase for the technology zone that would set up a base of operations for Chinese companies doing business in the United States.
City officials were cautious, since the idea is at an early stage.
“We understand they are at a preliminary stage. We are waiting to hear back from them with a proposal for where they want to go from here,” said Cece Gassner, assistant to the mayor for economic development.
The proposal could get a boost from this year’s voter-approved constitutional amendment that allows the airport to borrow money to build facilities that can be leased to companies on a long-term basis. The airport commission also has the authority to grant long-term leases and landing rights to air carriers, including those from China.
Sinomach is not the only Asian company looking at Boise, Gassner said.
“We’re getting calls from investors from all across Asia who are interested in Idaho,” she said.
Idaho’s location, only another 45 minutes farther by air than Seattle from Asia, will open many opportunities, state and local officials said.
The state’s low cost for doing business will help, too.
Sinomach is attracted to Idaho, in part, because of the lack of infrastructure here, which means it has more opportunity.
“Idaho’s the last state that should say we don’t want to do business with Asia,” said Lt. Gov. Brad Little. “Asia’s where the money is.”
Yeh Ling-Ling, executive director of the Alliance for a Sustainable USA, said U.S. businesses should be cautious about making contracts that give Chinese companies the best jobs — though she is more worried about investment programs that encourage immigration, which Idaho also has jumped into this year.
“I believe that Idaho or other American companies should first seek investments from America and employ American engineers first,” said Ling-Ling, a naturalized citizen from Orinda, Calif., who was born in Vietnam of Chinese parents.
Little, who met with Zhang Chun, director general of Sinomach, and other company officials, said he thinks the state and the company are a good fit.
But that doesn’t mean the state won’t stick up for its own interests.
“We’re sure not going to favor a Chinese company over an Idaho company,” Little said.
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[Samuel the Lamanite]

Just wondering if the FEMA camps are located close to these Chinese locations?

[dauser]

The United States in the final stage of bankruptcy... called "in receivership". China wants to take physical possession of real assetts. China no longer want our watered down dollars...made of air... in fact they are unloading their dollar holdings...as fast as they can... before it becomes it becomes totally worthless. I suspect the federal government will help make the wealth transfer for the international debt collectors... and evacuate the occupants of Idaho.

[SempiternalHarbinger]

Looks like we might be getting a little taste of our own medicine. This sure doesn't feel good

[moonwhim]

Idaho Governor Selling His State to the Chinese?

WRITTEN BY JOE WOLVERTON, II
THURSDAY, 09 JUNE 2011 10:52
The New American Magazine

In a letter proudly publicized on a state-sponsored website, Idaho Governor Butch Otter, a Republican, describes a program designed to “grow Idaho's Gross Domestic Product” by creating “quality jobs for all Idahoans by fostering systemic growth, recruiting new companies to Idaho, and selling Idaho's trade and investment opportunities to the world.” The following is from Governor Otter’s announcement of the plan known as Project 60.

Project 60 is just a name. But it stands for a goal, and a way of getting there.

It means more than some abstract concept for increasing our gross domestic product. It means jobs and opportunity, hope and independence for the people of Idaho. That’s what I want you to think about when you hear about Project 60. This is an initiative in which we all need to be involved, to build Idaho’s economy together in a way that strengthens our businesses, people and communities.

No state or local agency, no government of any kind can successfully tackle this kind of goal alone. Project 60 belongs to all of us and it needs all of us to be champions of this effort. Today, I invite you to be a Project 60 Partner. This Web site is built for you to participate in the process.

Consider this “home base” for Project 60. This is where you will have the chance to offer “Top-to-Top” help in our efforts to recruit new and expanding businesses to Idaho, the chance to tell us about networking opportunities with your vendors and customers in other states, and the chance to become an ambassador for Idaho’s future. I want you to tell us about your own success stories and offer us tips and advice about what it takes to thrive in business here.

That brief introduction should be memorized by students trying to learn the craft of political speechifying. There is in Governor Otter’s letter nothing of substance, plenty of weasel words, and an extraordinary display of misdirection all designed to lull the citizens of the sovereign state of Idaho into a stupor while their state is sold to the Chinese.

A recent article described the goal of Project 60 in slightly less rosy terms. “Idaho, under the stewardship of Governor Butch Otter, has opened the door for a Chinese invasion....”

The details of the scheme seem to support that analysis. In very unclear terms, one of the principalplanks of the Project 60 platform is known as “Inward Foreign Direct Investment.” As laid out on the Project 60 website, this portion of the plan will increase Idaho’s role “in global business” by providing foreign industry with “a strong impetus to economic development.”

The “impetus” is a two-pronged attack on Idaho’s domestic workforce (read: the middle class). First, through Project 60, foreign business interest are encouraged to take advantage of favorable national immigration laws.

Specifically, “The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service administers an immigrant investor visa program called EB-5. The program grants foreigners permanent U.S. residency in exchange for helping create U.S. jobs.” This prong will facilitate the immigration of Chinese nationals into the United States for the purpose of establishing a Chinese industrial beachhead in Idaho, under the guise of creating U.S. jobs.

The second phase involves the granting of tax breaks to the foreign companies. In exchange for an investment of between $500,000 and $1 million (depending on whether the target zone is rural or urban, respectively), the foreign investor receives tax incentives.

A story published recently on cnsnews.com explains how Idaho’s plan dovetails perfectly into the overall scope of China’s economic policy vis a vis its holdings in the United States. As reported by cnsnews.com:

China has dropped 97 percent of its holdings in U.S. Treasury bills, decreasing its ownership of the short-term U.S. government securities from a peak of $210.4 billion in May 2009 to $5.69 billion in March 2011, the most recent month reported by the U.S. Treasury.

And:

Until October, the Chinese were generally making up for their decreasing holdings in Treasury bills by increasing their holdings of longer-term U.S. Treasury securities. Thus, until October, China’s overall holdings of U.S. debt continued to increase.

Since October, however, China has also started to divest from longer-term U.S. Treasury securities. Thus, as reported by the Treasury Department, China’s ownership of the U.S. national debt has decreased in each of the last five months on record, including November, December, January, February and March.

The Chinese, by wisely divesting itself of American treasury securities, can take advantage of our federal system (the co-existence of two equal sovereignties) and keep its fingers in American pies by establishing powerful outposts in the 50 states, thus by-passing the chokehold held over the national economy by the bust/boom cycle perpetuated by the Federal Reserve.

Put simply, Idaho (and reportedly other states, as well) are offering the Chinese a way to dump their useless treasury bonds without sacrificing the strength of their clamp on the economic pipeline of American industry.

The specifics of the wheeling and dealing between Idaho’s state government and their Chinese counterparts are unclear with a few exceptions. What is known is that “top Idaho officials have been traveling to China and entertaining the Chinese here, in order to help facilitate this.”

The result of these junkets? American Falls, Idaho will soon be home to a Chinese-owned fertilizer plant. A significant swathe of land south of Boise (about thirty thousand acres) was bought by China, a purchase Idaho’s governor promises will “reinvigorate our American industrial base.”

Idaho may be leading the race to court China, but according to The New American’s own Bill Jasper, Idaho’s southern neighbor is running full speed toward that same goal. From Jasper’s article published last month:

Utah’s Governor Gary Herbert, who led an April 2011 trade delegation to Beijing and Shanghai, said he was amazed by the scale of Chinese development and construction and impressed by the business community’s “embracement of free market principles.” Utah will host Governors from China’s provinces at the U.S. National Governors Association in Salt Lake City this July.

Governor Herbert got considerable help with China connections from former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, who has served for the past couple of years as the Obama administration’s ambassador to China. Huntsman, the millionaire scion of the famous Huntsman chemical empire, is leaving the diplomatic corps to throw his hat in the GOP 2012 presidential sweepstakes. His ambassadorial slot is being filled by U.S. Commerce Secretary — and former Washington State Governor — Gary Locke, also an enthusiastic China booster.

When confronted directly by constituents with questions about the ethical, practical, and national security implications of questionable business deals with the communist-controlled “People’s Republic,” the usual response from the China boosters is a flippant remark along the lines of: “Heh, heh, don’t you know, China is Communist in name only; they’re more capitalist than we are.”

Constitutionalists of all states must voice their opposition to the wide avenues being paved for China into our state economies. These agreements may soon leave us without the the check on "all encroachments of the national government" our Founders intended the states to be.

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[Samuel the Lamanite]

Maybe NC should do the same as Idaho. We could start selling our beautiful mountains like some countries are doing.

[SempiternalHarbinger]

American made ... Chinese owned: Full version

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/06/news/in ... /index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To Chinese firms U.S. is a bargain

States aggressively woo manufacturers. Lower electricity and land costs can offset a higher labor tab.

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Chinese companies set up shop in the United States

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[Samuel the Lamanite]

Semper: Could be that Idaho selling itself is a way for getting the Restored Gospel to some Chinese and opening up Mainland China. What say ye?

[Vision]

Samuel

Don't forget that missionaries have already preached the Gospel on Mainland China in the early 1900's before China became a Communist Nation.

[Samuel the Lamanite]

Vision: That's probably correct. Wonder if there will be any Abish's appear when needed?