RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Discuss principles, issues, news and candidates related to upcoming elections and voting.
Post Reply
Liberty_Agent
captain of 100
Posts: 171

RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by Liberty_Agent »

By Ann Coulter


Apart from finding out that Barack Obama did far worse in his re-election than nearly any other incumbent who won re-election, the only thing that perked me up after Nov. 6 was coming across a Time magazine published after the 2004 election, when George W. Bush won a second term.

In the mirror image of all the 2012 post-election analyses, the Democrats were said to be finished, out of ideas, hopelessly unpopular. It's like watching MSNBC, with the word "Democrats" replaced with "Republicans."

Democrats had thrown everything they had into beating Bush, crushing the Howard Dean wing of their party and running a moderate -- a Vietnam veteran, no less! They had George Soros, Michael Moore and Code Pink working like fiends to topple Bush.

Still, they lost to an incumbent. As Time noted, the Democrats had "lost five of the past seven presidential elections."

But the pendulum swings. The Democrats came roaring back in 2006 and again in 2008. There's no reason Republicans can't do the same, unburdened by having to run against an incumbent in 2016.

Unless Marco Rubio has his way.

The Democrats never change their ideas; they change the voters. For decades, Democrats have been working feverishly to create more Democrats by encouraging divorce (another Democratic voter!), illegitimacy (another Democratic voter!) and Third World immigration (another Democratic voter!).

Strangely, some Republicans seem determined to create more Democratic voters, too. That will be the primary result of Sen. Marco Rubio's amnesty plan.

IT'S NOT AMNESTY! Rubio's proponents cry. They seem to think they can bully Republicans the way the Democrats do, by controlling the language.

Rubio's bill is nothing but amnesty. It isn't even "amnesty thinly disguised as border enforcement." This is a wolf in wolf's clothing.

Despite all the blather about how Rubio demands "Enforcement First!" the very first thing his proposal does is make illegal aliens legal. (Don't call them "illegal aliens"!)


The ability to live and work legally in America is the most valuable commodity in the world; it's the Hope Diamond of the universe. I know young, well-educated Canadians who waited a decade for that privilege.

Step One of Marco Rubio's plan is: Grant illegal aliens the right to live and work in America legally. (Rubio's first move in poker: Fold.)

People who have broken our laws will thus leap ahead of millions of foreigners dying to immigrate here, but -- unwilling to enter illegally -- waiting patiently in their own countries.

The only thing the newly legalized illegal immigrants won't get immediately is citizenship. Rubio claims that under his plan, they won't be able to vote or go on welfare. But in practice, they'll have to wait only until the ACLU finds a judge to say otherwise.

Even under Rubio's scheme, all the children born to the 11 million newly legalized illegals will be instant citizens, able to collect welfare for their whole families and vote as soon as they are old enough.

Which won't be long: The vast majority of illegal aliens are Hispanic, and Hispanics have a higher teen birthrate than any other ethnic group. In California, a majority of all Hispanic births are illegitimate. That's a lot of Democratic voters coming.

And look how great that's turned out! With Hispanics on track to become the largest ethnic group in California this year, the state that gave us Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan is incapable of electing any Republican statewide anymore. Taxes keep going up, and there's no one left to pay the bill.

That will be our entire country if Republicans fall for Rubio's phony "Enforcement First!" plan. Perplexingly, some Republicans seem determined to turn the whole nation into California, in the foolish hope of winning one last election.

No border can be secure when the pot of gold on the other side is an American green card. (Again playing games with language, Rubio doesn't call the right to legally live and work here a "green card," but in practical effect, that's what it is.)

So when exactly does the enforcement part of Rubio's "Enforcement First!" plan kick in? Answer: Never.

Or rather, enforcement becomes both impossible -- because nothing will stop them if legalization is the lure -- and irrelevant -- because there's no penalty for leaving the border wide open.

Even if enforcement "fails," are the 11 million illegals already legalized by Rubio going to be asked to leave? Of course not.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is a Republican who -- as a Princeton and Harvard Law graduate -- does not yearn for "strange new respect" from the elites. This week, he said of Rubio's amnesty plan: "To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally."

If only other Republicans didn't ride the tea party to victory before realizing they really just want to be John McCain.



http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013- ... #read_more" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

lundbaek
Level 34 Illuminated
Posts: 11123
Location: Mesa, Arizona

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by lundbaek »

THE PUSH FOR AMNESTY GOES INTO HIGH GEAR - from Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief

Laying the groundwork for another push for amnesty involves a so-called bipartisan Senate Commission on Immigration Reform, which is stacked exclusively with pro-amnesty Senators. Here’s former Congressman Tom Tancredo, writing for TownHall.com:

“All the Republicans on this gang have long been supporters of amnesty. The border enforcement group Numbers USA gives Jeff Flake, Lindsay Graham, and John McCain F grades for their support of amnesty. Rubio has not had a chance to vote for an amnesty yet, but he has been vocally supporting the policy for the last year.

“Similarly, the four Democratic Senators who sponsored the bill, Richard Durbin, Michael Bennet, Chuck Schumer, and Bob Menendez all have F-. This tells you a lot of what the American people should expect when they hear about ‘bipartisanship’: nothing more than a compromise between F- Democrats and F Republicans. The comprehensive immigration reform they offer reflects the tired scheme of amnesty and massive increases to legal immigration in exchange for vague promises of enforcement [which never happens].”

Why the Republican push for Amnesty? The GOP leaders are trying to sell the line that they can’t win elections anymore unless they pander to the Hispanic vote. This is precisely one of the major reasons the US has refused to close the border. The PTB want millions of Hispanics who seek government support to force a sea-change in traditional conservative voting power in this country. No one represents this undermining of conservative immigration values better than sell-out artist Sen. John McCain.

The Hill.com quoted McCain pushing this: “Recent elections have changed his party's view on immigration, said Sen. John McCain, a Republican from Arizona who led an unsuccessful push to reform the nation's immigration laws in 2006 and 2007. McCain said his party's leaders and strategists are convinced they need to agree to some measure of reform to boost the party's image among Hispanic voters, who voted overwhelmingly for President Obama in November. ‘As I've stated before, elections, elections,’ said McCain.” —as opposed to Principles and the Rule of Law.

My view corresponds with Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) who said that “[T]he immigration-reform principles floated by a bipartisan group of senators would reward lawbreakers, increase unemployment and push enormous new costs onto U.S. taxpayers.” Indeed.

If this doesn’t work, Obama has promised to use an Executive Order to legislate Amnesty. He’s already doing that illegally by directing the INS to not deport those more recent illegals who qualify for his Dream Act criteria—which Congress refused to enact. We repeat: executive orders cannot be used to create new law.

samizdat
captain of 1,000
Posts: 3511

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by samizdat »

It really is simple. Removing 11 million illegal aliens from the country would be a logistical nightmare.

You could build a wall 50 feet high. The average Mexican will either build a 51 foot ladder or dig underneath said wall to get to the States with the current immigration laws.

Your best chance was self deportation. That's not going to happen.

And even if you succeeded in removing even half of the 11 million illegal aliens, there's 5.5 million fewer jobs. Why do I say fewer jobs? Because many Americans think that they are above the types of jobs that the illegal immigrants have.

The United States has a history of treating those that were recent arrivals to the country's work force wrongly. In the Civil War the boogeymen were the Irish (or China, if you lived in California). Then they were the Italians. Then they were the Eastern Europeans. Then they were the blacks. Then they were the Muslims. Now the Mexicans are the target.

You would do good to accept the fact that they are already there, and they won't be moving back, unless job opprotunities shoot up in Mexico (which by the way is happening to a certain degree).

Try to deport them, and you could have something much alike to the prophecies in 3 Nephi 20 and 21.

User avatar
uglypitbull
captain of 1,000
Posts: 1751

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by uglypitbull »

samizdat wrote:Because many Americans think that they are above the types of jobs that the illegal immigrants have.

Try to deport them, and you could have something much alike to the prophecies in 3 Nephi 20 and 21.
Actually, both of these issues could be more or less solved by removing socialist programs such as food stamps and welfare. But those in power don't want this....they want people dependent on government until the backs of those working are broken.

lundbaek
Level 34 Illuminated
Posts: 11123
Location: Mesa, Arizona

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by lundbaek »

It seems to me that adequate enforcement of existing laws would cause most illegal immigrants to leave this country. But when we have the last few US presidents encouraging illegal immigration, what are we to expect.

Seek the Truth
captain of 1,000
Posts: 3511

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by Seek the Truth »

Bingo. Dry up the bennies and the problem goes away.

Liberty_Agent
captain of 100
Posts: 171

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by Liberty_Agent »

A lot of what has been posted has been debunked by the CATO institute. Welfare benefits in America actually have little to do with immigration, most come here for work. As long as work is abundant, immigrants will come. So Ron Paul's logic fails right there. Arizona's harsh laws on illegals has actually worked, unfortunately a good bulk of it was overthrown. But immigrants were leaving and many were self-deporting.


Try to deport them, and you could have something much alike to the prophecies in 3 Nephi 20 and 21.

Wow, your God really hates White people I guess. But that's assuming that Native Americans or Hispanics are Lamanites, which there isn't an ounce of evidence for.

samizdat
captain of 1,000
Posts: 3511

Re: RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP

Post by samizdat »

No, God doesn't hate white people. If it were so, I would be up a creek.

The Book of Mormon clearly states that the Lamanites will be among the unrepentant Gentiles like lions over sheep. Not an ounce of evidence for Native Americans or Hispanics being Lamanites? Have you even read the introductory statement of the Book of Mormon, how the American Indians are among the descendents of the Lamanites...

Post Reply