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A Vote for Mitt — Goes to Obama?

FOX NEWS RECEIVES COMPLAINTS from voters in battleground states who say they vote on touchscreen machines -- but when they picked Mitt Romney, the machine indicated a vote for President Obama.

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Nice plea. She's cute.

I was born in '78. The first presidential campaign I remember wash Dukakis/Bush. If we had the same technology then, I could see the same type of plea being made, with the same fear of a future hanging in the balance and only one side being able to preserve us from certain destruction. "What kind of America are you leaving me?" Since 1988, we've had 12 years of R's and 12 years of D's. What kind of America did my parents and grandparents leave me? Exhibit A is before us. We are living in it, and both parties are equally guilty in the outcome. Welfare, warfare, secret combinations as a way of life, etc.

If you feel inclined to vote for Romney, great. Perhaps destruction will not come 'as the flood,' but it will continue to grow like the cancer it is, further metastasizing, and then hastening to the same outcome that we are trying to forestall.

(Not surprised by voter fraud. It's a travesty.)_

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I don't blame that girl for parroting the ignorant, she has no idea what she's talking about. On the one hand she complains about the high debt, but raising taxes (only on those who can easily afford it) is how you pay down that debt. Or does she believe that lowering revenue will also lower debt? But she will grow up and get a clue someday.

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There has never been a more evil, far left, socialist President in History. This president has done far more damage to our country than any elected official ever has.
His goal is simple: to destroy the American nation. Mr. Obama is a dangerous demagogue, who believes he is above the law. He is the worst president this country has ever seen.

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Andrew52 wrote:There has never been a more evil, far left, socialist President in History. This president has done far more damage to our country than any elected official ever has.
His goal is simple: to destroy the American nation. Mr. Obama is a dangerous demagogue, who believes he is above the law. He is the worst president this country has ever seen.
This statement is quite possibly the quintessential distilled essence of racism in the 21st century.

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If the trend continues, the next will be the worst.

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George Alabaster wrote:
Andrew52 wrote:There has never been a more evil, far left, socialist President in History. This president has done far more damage to our country than any elected official ever has.
His goal is simple: to destroy the American nation. Mr. Obama is a dangerous demagogue, who believes he is above the law. He is the worst president this country has ever seen.
This statement is quite possibly the quintessential distilled essence of racism in the 21st century.

George
George, how is this racist? People said the exact same thing about Bill Clinton.

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linj2fly wrote:George, how is this racist? People said the exact same thing about Bill Clinton.
He was also seen as friendly to blacks, so he had to be vilified in the same way. It's racist because it has absolutely no relation to reality.

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linj2fly wrote:George, how is this racist? People said the exact same thing about Bill Clinton.
He was also seen as friendly to blacks, so he had to be vilified in the same way. It's racist because it has absolutely no relation to reality.

George
That's still a stretch, since people from the left side of the paradigm have said the exact same thing about republican president (except with the right/left verbage switched). Unless you can give a more substantial rationale, I think you are, unfortunately, diluting the meaning of racism.

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linj2fly wrote:
George Alabaster wrote:
Andrew52 wrote:There has never been a more evil, far left, socialist President in History. This president has done far more damage to our country than any elected official ever has.
His goal is simple: to destroy the American nation. Mr. Obama is a dangerous demagogue, who believes he is above the law. He is the worst president this country has ever seen.
This statement is quite possibly the quintessential distilled essence of racism in the 21st century.

George
George, how is this racist? People said the exact same thing about Bill Clinton.
The racist card. If all else fails, call them racists. The concept has been bandied about in the media for several years. It typically refers to someone falsely alleging another person is racist in order to gain some political advantage or to draw their credibility into question.
Cheap shot George.

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Andrew52 wrote:...

The racist card. If all else fails, call them racists. The concept has been bandied about in the media for several years. It typically refers to someone falsely alleging another person is racist in order to gain some political advantage or to draw their credibility into question.
Cheap shot George.
It's cheap to use racism to generate negative feelings about Obama. It's cheap to call him the food stamp president when he bears no responsibility for the Great Recession. It's cheap to call him a socialist, or a marxist, or to say that people like Colin Powell are only supporting him because they are both black. Apparently, some people are sensitive about this aspect of their campaign, but it does exist.

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Obama is a Socialist and guess what socialist is the halfway mark to communist. We are kinda of in a Fascist regime at the moment. Big Business and Government in it together. Call it what you want it is all bad.

Free and open markets with liberty and freedom and yes responsibility for yourself with God at the center of our society made this the greatest place to live for well over 3000 years. City of Enoch is the only place that was better and for a brief time in the BOM after Christ came for some 200 years, outside that this was the best time to live.

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triple777 wrote:Obama is a Socialist and guess what socialist is the halfway mark to communist. We are kinda of in a Fascist regime at the moment. Big Business and Government in it together. Call it what you want it is all bad.

Free and open markets with liberty and freedom and yes responsibility for yourself with God at the center of our society made this the greatest place to live for well over 3000 years. City of Enoch is the only place that was better and for a brief time in the BOM after Christ came for some 200 years, outside that this was the best time to live.
triple777,

There has never been any such thing as a totally free market. And there is absolutely no danger of reproducing the evils of the Soviet Union here in the USA. It's a legacy of the Cold War to win political points by calling your opponent a socialist. Many early American institutions could also be called socialist in that they were collectively owned for the public good. To discount this entirely because you are scared of a Stalin II is nothing more than irrational fearmongering.

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Andrew52 wrote:There has never been a more evil, far left, socialist President in History. This president has done far more damage to our country than any elected official ever has.
His goal is simple: to destroy the American nation. Mr. Obama is a dangerous demagogue, who believes he is above the law. He is the worst president this country has ever seen.

Frank Marshall Davis taught him well. The man is an enemy from within. Pure and simple. I don't care what spin George and all his moveon.org buddies want to con people with. Obama is part of the combination intent on destroying this republic from within. Moroni warned us about his kind. We should have listened much closer decades ago.. i-)


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Frank Marshall Davis taught him well. The man is an enemy from within. Pure and simple. I don't care what spin George and all his moveon.org buddies want to con people with. Obama is part of the combination intent on destroying this republic from within. Moroni warned us about his kind. We should have listened much closer decades ago.. i-)
Whatever irrational propaganda allows you to justify your prejudice. That's what you will choose to believe.

George

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By all means, lets just live in denial that there is any element of racism in the opposition to Barack Obama. Mormonism has a troubled history with race, I wonder how far it's really moved on.

George

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To suggest that Republicans want him out of the White House simply because he’s black, is a desperate attempt by a faltering campaign to change the subject from the president’s record and lack of vision for the future.

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George Alabaster wrote:And there is absolutely no danger of reproducing the evils of the Soviet Union here in the USA.
“These men are NOT incompetent or stupid. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.” That comment was made by James Forrestal concerning International Communism being promoted by our politicians in the early 1950’s. It isn’t being politically correct to refer to SOCIALISM as COMMUNISM, however, according to the Communist Manifesto the United States has already become a communist nation. If you have your little pocket size “CITIZENS RULE BOOK,” look on page 8, at the SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO, which states “The Communist Manifesto represents a misguided philosophy, which teaches the citizens to give up their rights for the sake of the common good, but it always ends in a police state. This is called preventive justice. Control is the key concept.” In the September issue of NEWSWATCH Magazine there is an article titled “The Ten Planks That Are Destroying Our Country – COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.” The article warns us that Americans believe that Communism is dead, but Communism has just become more politically correct.

1. Abolition of private property: The foundation of this nation was ownership of property. The settlers came here to insure private ownership of land and our Founding Fathers made it unlawful for government to own land except for the ten square miles of Washington D.C. and such as may be needed for erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, Dockyards and other needful buildings. Today you don’t OWN your home, car, farm or most property. You are just allowed to use it as long as you pay your property taxes, buy a car license, pay for building permits and get permission from the zoning commission. Individual OWNERSHIP is only by virtue of government. To USE property we must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the powers of government.

2. Heavy Progressive Income Tax: I believe all Americans understand the IRS. What most of them don’t realize is that we didn’t have an Income Tax until 1913. Before that year Income Taxes were considered unconstitutional.

3. Abolition of all rights of Inheritance: We now have Estate Taxes, Inheritance Taxes, also called the Death Tax. Many a farm and small business could not be passed on to the next generation, but had to be sold in order to pay the estate taxes. Many times the IRS forces the sale, as it did in the case of the Roy Rogers Museum sale.

4. Confiscation of property of all emigrants and rebels: Government seizures, tax liens, private land under Eminent Domain, the IRS taking property without due process and even taking “suspected” drug money from anyone carrying large amounts of cash is nothing but government confiscation of private property

5. Central Bank: The Constitution called for Congress to “coin Money and regulate the Value thereof,” but since 1913 the Federal Reserve Bank has taken over that duty. The Federal Reserve is a “private” bank that sets interest rates and creates money out of thin air.

6. Government control of Communications & Transportation: Today we have the Federal Communications Commission, Department of Transportation, Interstate Commerce Commission and the Federal Aviation Administration. You are not allowed to drive your car without a license.

7. Government control of factories and agriculture: Our government has gained control of the banking industry, finance, automobile production, energy and health care. Department of Commerce, Department of Interior and the Bureau of Land Management, Department of Agriculture; all of which control land use.

8. Government control of Labor: The Department of Labor, Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the minimum wage law control all aspects of American businesses.

9. Corporate Farms, Regional Planning: Corporate Agriculture now controls markets and prices of farm production. We now have Planning and Reorganization and zoning all across the nation.

10. Government control of Education: State and Federal Departments of Education, National Education Association, Outcome Based Education, No Child Left Behind; all paid for with tax dollars.

Karl Marx stated that these ten planks in the Communist Manifesto would be the test whether a country had become communist or not. Is America a Communist nation? Study the manifesto and the laws that have been passed by our Republican and Democrat politicians, and “you determine” if we are or if we are not a Communist Country.

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George Alabaster wrote:
Mark wrote:...


Frank Marshall Davis taught him well. The man is an enemy from within. Pure and simple. I don't care what spin George and all his moveon.org buddies want to con people with. Obama is part of the combination intent on destroying this republic from within. Moroni warned us about his kind. We should have listened much closer decades ago.. i-)
Whatever irrational propaganda allows you to justify your prejudice. That's what you will choose to believe.

George

You need to read An Enemy Hath Done This by Pres. Benson in the worst way George. While you are at it go study the words of Pres.McKay and Pres. Clark and what they said specifically about the threats of communism and socialism in America. Your words are the exact opposite of theirs. Wake up mate. @-)

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Andrew52 wrote:To suggest that Republicans want him out of the White House simply because he’s black, is a desperate attempt by a faltering campaign to change the subject from the president’s record and lack of vision for the future.
When Republicans give good reasons for wanting him out, I believe them. But when their reasons are either irrational, not based on fact, or purely emotional, then I have to wonder.

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Mark wrote:

You need to read An Enemy Hath Done This by Pres. Benson in the worst way George. While you are at it go study the words of Pres.McKay and Pres. Clark and what they said specifically about the threats of communism and socialism in America. Your words are the exact opposite of theirs. Wake up mate. @-)
The Cold War is over, you're living in the past, man!

George

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George,

Why did you sign up on an LDS conservative forum? What is your goal here? What are you hoping to gain by being here?

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Stella Solaris wrote:George,

Why did you sign up on an LDS conservative forum? What is your goal here? What are you hoping to gain by being here?
I'm the true conservative and personification of Jesus' teachings. I hope to convince you of that.

George

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