Could medical marijuana be a solution to the opioid epidemic?

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Could medical marijuana be a solution to the opioid epidemic?

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The United States is currently in an opioid epidemic and is struggling to find alternative painkillers to stop the crisis from intensifying. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), opioids — such as heroin and fentanyl — have caused over 500,000 deaths from 2000 to 2015, with 91 Americans dying daily from an opioid overdose. Related: Opioid epidemic reaches whole new crisis level as Big Pharma drugs out America for profit.https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-14- ... demic.html

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Yeah, I think so. I think everything has its place and that's what D&C 89 teaches in principle. Some things are not for the belly but are for the washing of the body, or for the healing of bruises. There are good and bad ways to use the resources of the earth. I think opioids probably have their place when used properly which is probably rarely and in extreme situations. For long-term pain management, using cannabis could provide a solution if used properly.

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Interesting idea. I can't say that I think it would be a solution to that, though.

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it could be a lesser evil, but i doubt it would prove to be a “solution”, but rather at best a help for some people.

kratom could also be very beneficial for those struggling with opiate addiction.

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I'm a pharmacist and hands down I would rather anyone use cannabis than opioids for chronic pain. Cannabis is non addictive and actually improves people's lives. Opioids cause addiction within 2 weeks and ravage people's lives.

The opioid epidemic (whether prescription or not) is the worst epidemic there is IMO.

Problem is the FDA will never take a proper look at cannabis because there is no financial incentive for anyone to do the necessary randomized clinical trials.

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abijah` wrote: February 24th, 2020, 8:32 pm it could be a lesser evil, but i doubt it would prove to be a “solution”, but rather at best a help for some people.

kratom could also be very beneficial for those struggling with opiate addiction.
I deal with a lot of people who have used Kratom to wean off of other addictions and have heard plenty of stories and testimonials.

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I think many people have their papers illegally just in order to buy marijuana in stores. At the same time it isn't allowed in many countries even with medical purpose. For example, I was in Spain and cannabis in Barcelona is sold from the street from some random people. They definitely didn't want you to feel pain. They are rather interested in get you high and then who knows what you will do. I think society needs to create new sort of medicine without using marijuana.

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Susan Baker wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 3:39 am I think many people have their papers illegally just in order to buy marijuana in stores. At the same time it isn't allowed in many countries even with medical purpose. For example, I was in Spain and cannabis in Barcelona is sold from the street from some random people. They definitely didn't want you to feel pain. They are rather interested in get you high and then who knows what you will do. I think society needs to create new sort of medicine without using marijuana.
Can you elaborate on the illegal papers? Do you mean prescriptions? Do you think they're making fake illegal prescriptions or just dishonest ones?
That website you shared says it's not sold from the street, but from not for profit clubs as per Spanish law. Plus most of it's content is the lorem ipsum which makes me question the legitimacy of the site and why it was shared?
I was just given some cbd oil by a friend as I'm in a lot of pain this week and taking my opiods just to sleep. The cbd takes enough edge off I can sleep without my loritab - which makes me incredibly high, so obviously being high isn't the issue. Sure, it'd be great to have a medication my insurance would cover that wasn't addicting and worked without crummy side effects. CBD is expensive!! But I realized a long time ago my doctors had no interest in curing me, but to give me drugs that would make me need them more. If marijuana allows people to need their doctors less, i see good in that.

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Yahtzee wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 9:55 amIf marijuana allows people to need their doctors less, i see good in that.
Amen!

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Yahtzee wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 9:55 am
Susan Baker wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 3:39 am I think many people have their papers illegally just in order to buy marijuana in stores. At the same time it isn't allowed in many countries even with medical purpose. For example, I was in Spain and cannabis in Barcelona is sold from the street from some random people. They definitely didn't want you to feel pain. They are rather interested in get you high and then who knows what you will do. I think society needs to create new sort of medicine without using marijuana.
Can you elaborate on the illegal papers? Do you mean prescriptions? Do you think they're making fake illegal prescriptions or just dishonest ones?
That website you shared says it's not sold from the street, but from not for profit clubs as per Spanish law. Plus most of it's content is the lorem ipsum which makes me question the legitimacy of the site and why it was shared?
I was just given some cbd oil by a friend as I'm in a lot of pain this week and taking my opiods just to sleep. The cbd takes enough edge off I can sleep without my loritab - which makes me incredibly high, so obviously being high isn't the issue. Sure, it'd be great to have a medication my insurance would cover that wasn't addicting and worked without crummy side effects. CBD is expensive!! But I realized a long time ago my doctors had no interest in curing me, but to give me drugs that would make me need them more. If marijuana allows people to need their doctors less, i see good in that.
I know couple people who bribed a doctor in order to have “legal” permission to buy marijuana. I’m saying that in my opinion it’s not ok.
As per site, I’ve faced couple days ago a massage “the site is under construction” ir something like that. I think they’ve temporarily closed it in order to fix or may be add new content.

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Susan Baker wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 3:39 am I think many people have their papers illegally just in order to buy marijuana in stores. At the same time it isn't allowed in many countries even with medical purpose. For example, I was in Spain and cannabis in Barcelona is sold from the street from some random people. They definitely didn't want you to feel pain. They are rather interested in get you high and then who knows what you will do. I think society needs to create new sort of medicine without using marijuana.
When you say society, who do you mean?

May I ask what it is that you think people using cannabis do? Your words seem to imply some sort of negative behavior.

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The Airbender wrote: May 13th, 2020, 9:41 am
Susan Baker wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 3:39 am I think many people have their papers illegally just in order to buy marijuana in stores. At the same time it isn't allowed in many countries even with medical purpose. For example, I was in Spain and cannabis in Barcelona is sold from the street from some random people. They definitely didn't want you to feel pain. They are rather interested in get you high and then who knows what you will do. I think society needs to create new sort of medicine without using marijuana.
When you say society, who do you mean?

May I ask what it is that you think people using cannabis do? Your words seem to imply some sort of negative behavior.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against cannabis but I'm against people who have fake marijuana license(allowance).

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Susan Baker wrote: May 25th, 2020, 10:41 am
The Airbender wrote: May 13th, 2020, 9:41 am
Susan Baker wrote: May 2nd, 2020, 3:39 am I think many people have their papers illegally just in order to buy marijuana in stores. At the same time it isn't allowed in many countries even with medical purpose. For example, I was in Spain and cannabis in Barcelona is sold from the street from some random people. They definitely didn't want you to feel pain. They are rather interested in get you high and then who knows what you will do. I think society needs to create new sort of medicine without using marijuana.
When you say society, who do you mean?

May I ask what it is that you think people using cannabis do? Your words seem to imply some sort of negative behavior.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against cannabis but I'm against people who have fake marijuana license(allowance).
there's actually nothing wrong with cannabis. in fact, with low-thc(delta-9/thca) cannabis now being federally legal(aka hemp), you are now seeing companies isolating cannabinoids that
directly attached to brain receptors that deal with pain, anxiety, etc. all without causing impairment or inebriation.
see delta8, delta10 thc.

in fact, you can purchase federally legal hemp and create your own medicinal tincture or infusion. using the below, all one has to do is place plant material into the device, punch
a few buttons and a few moments later you have your own medicine.

https://www.amazon.com/LEVO-Botanical-A ... 466&sr=8-2

also very soon, you will be able to pick cannabinoids in which to create your vape or tincuture formula.
in terms of medicinal applications, i see vaping the same as using an asthma inhaler.

for instance, if you want to be alert, curb anxiety, and curb your appetite, you could select the below cannabinoids

cbd
thc-v

all this is coming to the market within the next year or so.
you heard it here first(at least on ldsff)

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I am a pharmacist, and I would prefer someone to use cannabis rather than opioids for chronic pain. Cannabis brands in Canada are known for production of good qaulity products that save people's lives. Opioids are very addictive and ruin people's lives. The opioid crisis is one of the most serious problems in the world.
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cab wrote: February 24th, 2020, 8:43 pm I'm a pharmacist and hands down I would rather anyone use cannabis than opioids for chronic pain. Cannabis is non addictive and actually improves people's lives. Opioids cause addiction within 2 weeks and ravage people's lives.

The opioid epidemic (whether prescription or not) is the worst epidemic there is IMO.

Problem is the FDA will never take a proper look at cannabis because there is no financial incentive for anyone to do the necessary randomized clinical trials.
Right ... use cannabis; one of the side effects of cannabis use in men is the increase in fatty breast tissue; don't get me wrong, I like boobs, but absolutely, definitely NOT on men ... that's a non-starter. I attended church with one member who used to smoke marijuana heavily in his youth... now, he's retired, the guy needs a bra, and he has an attitude that reflects his long-time use before joining the Church.

I'm NOT saying there isn't the possibility of valid and valuable medical use in the plant or its extracts--the scriptures allude to such kinds of use--but the real crisis is NOT opioids, it's that some people are always looking for an easy way out, an escape, rather than facing their problems sober and head on. That, and a porous border that allows for virtually unfettered traffic in too many places. In other words, opioids are merely a symptom of an even greater problem, and few people are actually trying to solve it.

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AnotherLDSPatriot wrote: June 17th, 2020, 7:27 am
cab wrote: February 24th, 2020, 8:43 pm I'm a pharmacist and hands down I would rather anyone use cannabis than opioids for chronic pain. Cannabis is non addictive and actually improves people's lives. Opioids cause addiction within 2 weeks and ravage people's lives.

The opioid epidemic (whether prescription or not) is the worst epidemic there is IMO.

Problem is the FDA will never take a proper look at cannabis because there is no financial incentive for anyone to do the necessary randomized clinical trials.
Right ... use cannabis; one of the side effects of cannabis use in men is the increase in fatty breast tissue; don't get me wrong, I like boobs, but absolutely, definitely NOT on men ... that's a non-starter. I attended church with one member who used to smoke marijuana heavily in his youth... now, he's retired, the guy needs a bra, and he has an attitude that reflects his long-time use before joining the Church.

I'm NOT saying there isn't the possibility of valid and valuable medical use in the plant or its extracts--the scriptures allude to such kinds of use--but the real crisis is NOT opioids, it's that some people are always looking for an easy way out, an escape, rather than facing their problems sober and head on. That, and a porous border that allows for virtually unfettered traffic in too many places. In other words, opioids are merely a symptom of an even greater problem, and few people are actually trying to solve it.
You're right it's a symptom of a much bigger problem. But we'd be surprised about how many of our neighbors and friends are addicted to narcotic analgesics simply because of short term therapy after a car accident or knee surgery. Kind of like how half of our elders quorum likely has a porn problem...

So what's the actual problem?

We have a fundamental problem of misunderstanding the doctrine of Christ. We suffer from unbelief and misplaced belief and false traditions that cause us to err and not know what source to look to for deliverance from all these enemies... We wear out our lives trying to be good mainstream members of the church, attending the temple, and checking the boxes, all the while missing the mark - which is no more or less than Jesus.

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