Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:22 am
*George W. Bush is endorsing it. I am very distrustfull of him because of his past actions.
*The supreme court has been reinterpreting every law under the constitution. It has the potential of abusing this admendment.
**The supreme court has also been making up laws - such as the abortion issue. So it doesn't have to be law for the supreme court to mess up marriage laws of the individual states.
*If the time comes that law have to dictate the moral agency of man, then man has fallen a long ways from the grace of God.
*The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is endorsing this admendment. It probably doing so because the world is losing its christen values so fast.
Once again, this is an interesting issue. I do not believe in same sex marriage. But I also believe in freedom to choose. I believe it boils down to how much this nation has lost its christen heritage and values.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:28 am
This is George Bush's way to cater to the people after murdering them (9/11 inside job) and keeping them in constant fear. Hitler did much, even more, to cater to the German people. Skilled dictators maintain their power by giving the people what they want.
The fact that the LDS church supports this amendment is a good thing, however by supporting anything stemming from Bush has a darkening, confusing effect. Like a lulling sense of ignorance that tries to envelop one's (free) spirit -- carnal security. (2 Nephi 28:21)
Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:28 am
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams
Neither the wisest constitution nor the the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." -- Samuel Adams
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." -- Benjamin Franklin
Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:59 am
Right now I'm developing lesson plans called "Be ye wise as serpents: studying today's sociology through the Book of Mormon" designed to educate and prepare members for the present and future. Here are the 7 lesson outlines I have so far:
Lesson 1: The complete Book of Mormon political parallel and the Kennedy assassination of Helaman chapter 1. (all other lessons will refer to this theme ... starts with 2 Nephi 28:21 and other quotes / scriptures like "Wo unto those who say all is well in Zion", with Joseph Smith about the constitution, with ETB regarding secret combinations, etc)
Lesson 2: The truth about 9/11 (Steven Jones, loosechange911, etc) and the art of propaganda (Screwtape Letters chapter 1). Included will be a documentary where they can see the evidence for themselves.
Lesson 3: Secret societies and clubs like the Bohemian Grove (social cohesion and vast collusion). Ether 8.
Lesson 4: Gadianton candidates: Leo Strauss and the Federal Reserve.
Lesson 5: The constitution under seige - fighting for what our founding fathers died for.
Lesson 6: The New World Order, ancient and modern Babylon. (How what the "conspiracy theorists" call the NWO, we call it Babylon -- 1 Nephi 14)
Lesson 7: The last days: Gayle from Lehi's testimony
... and Sarah's book (the woman who inspired Steven Jones to start investigating 9/11)
Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:26 pm
Lesson 1: The complete Book of Mormon sociological parallel
Lesson 2: Understanding the art of propaganda
Lesson 3: Social cohesion, vast collusion, and Ether chapter 8
Lesson 4: The economy, Leo Strauss, and Gadianton
Lesson 5: Defending the consititution
Lesson 6: Ancient and modern Babylon
Lesson 7: Preparing for the last days
Anything to add? reorganize? I'd be honored if you could help me after I prepare first drafts for each lesson (I'll post them somewhere on the forum for public review) ... because I think you know a great deal about these important subjects that I may not know or miss. I feel it's time we start forming our knowlege into lessons to teach ... whether specific or not.
Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:45 pm
"The Senate on Wednesday rejected a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage... Supporters of the amendment knew they wouldn’t achieve the two-thirds vote needed to approve a constitutional amendment, but they had predicted a majority of votes. Instead, they fell one short, 49-48... A majority of Americans define marriage as a union of a man and a woman, as the proposed amendment does, according to a poll out this week by ABC News. But an equal majority opposes amending the Constitution on this issue, the poll found.
"Forty-five of the 50 states have acted to define traditional marriage in ways that would ban same-sex marriage — 19 with constitutional amendments and 26 with statutes."
I personally don't know what to make of it. I never thought the gays in America had that much political clout to influence this vote, or any other, for that matter. So I'm left wondering what possessed so many senators to vote to permit gay marriage. But nothing of this sort surprises me after the failure to convict President Clinton and his re-election for a second term.
Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:38 pm
If politicians are getting the public focused on abortion and gay marriage while they're planning things like 9/11, trimming rights under pseudo-war pretext, and colluding with Big Business for government contracts and padded pockets ... it's a sure win and a genius cover-up. Like Screwtape Letters, "Your business is to fix his attention on the stream."
The masses are so worked up on these issues they don't focus at all on Larry Silverstein, Haliburton & KBR, or even the NSA attacking the constitution. Why would they finish a perfect decoy?
Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:11 am
Consider how on 4/20/99, we performed a giant bombing raid over Kosovo ... but none of that got media or political attention due to Columbine. Everyone was so worked up emotionally over killings at a High School, that no one cared about the 1000s killed in our own bombings.
Columbine became popular news because it instilled *fear*, which is essentially what the "war on terror" is all about ... to instill fear in Americans - scare the crap out of them and they'll do exactly as the leaders say.
Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:40 am
Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:43 am
I did some research a while back about the dangers of Antidepressants, visit the following link and you'll see there are a lot of shootings linked to Antidepressants:
...and the merchants of Babylon, these great men of the earth, shall deceive all nations with their sorceries! [Revelation 18:21-24]
sorceries in greek means???... http://www.topical-bible-studies.org/13-0018.htm
Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:34 pm
"for thy merchants were the great men of the earth" = Central Bankers (Federal Reserve)
"for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived" - this could be referring to the 666-chip that contains some type of mind-altering drug. We know from that one woman's testimony (Gayle from Lehi) that the chip has some type of pleasure effect .... and I suspect this is because it's like unto a narcotic or mind-altering drug.
Also about Eric Harris - it would not be the first time the US has *inserted* evidence. They've framed many, and a common theme is to accuse them as being "anti-semitic" like they did with Eustace Mullins (protege of Ezra Pound). Also the news agency stated that in his journal, Eric dreamed of flying a plane into the WTC. LOL, I wonder who inserted that bit?
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