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It was around 1990 that I came to the realization that not everyone was a real sentient being. When I say not everyone I mean most. That most people are automatons running a program, i.e., they are a simulation. This is an idea that is catching on in the last few years. The term being used today is NPC--Non Player Character. It is being seen in movies, politics and other places.

A quote of InfoWars’ Paul Joseph Watson.
these people could be called NPCs because they use the same phrases over and over again, because they don’t have original ideas, and, ultimately, because “their actions are determined by their coding
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.

That is when I realized that I am the star of my own version of, The Truman Show. There is a clue in the name. The True-man show! So yes I'm wasting my time typing to and trying to teach a bunch of programmed NPCs. And that begs the question, why. My best conclusion given my whole story is that the "producers" of the show are guiding me to something that is in their best interest that is probably not in my best interest. So where are they guiding me to?

"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:"

To a maximum security prison that I'll never be able to leave. It must happen at the time that I am set to evolve. At some point I must be able to resist but why would I resist if I was headed to glory and eternal lives! But I am too observant and too smart for 'their' plan no matter how sophisticated it might be. I will make a break for it if I get the chance.

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Please leave me out of your inevitable mass shooting. Thanks in advance.

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The Nehor wrote: October 22nd, 2019, 12:07 pm Please leave me out of your inevitable mass shooting. Thanks in advance.
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Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am It was around 1990 that I came to the realization that not everyone was a real sentient being. When I say not everyone I mean most. That most people are automatons running a program, i.e., they are a simulation. This is an idea that is catching on in the last few years. The term being used today is NPC--Non Player Character. It is being seen in movies, politics and other places.

A quote of InfoWars’ Paul Joseph Watson.
these people could be called NPCs because they use the same phrases over and over again, because they don’t have original ideas, and, ultimately, because “their actions are determined by their coding
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.

That is when I realized that I am the star of my own version of, The Truman Show. There is a clue in the name. The True-man show! So yes I'm wasting my time typing to and trying to teach a bunch of programmed NPCs. And that begs the question, why. My best conclusion given my whole story is that the "producers" of the show are guiding me to something that is in their best interest that is probably not in my best interest. So where are they guiding me to?

"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:"

To a maximum security prison that I'll never be able to leave. It must happen at the time that I am set to evolve. At some point I must be able to resist but why would I resist if I was headed to glory and eternal lives! But I am too observant and too smart for 'their' plan no matter how sophisticated it might be. I will make a break for it if I get the chance.
Michael. Do you truly believe this?

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We are all on the stage of life, all acting at the same time, many of the scenes of our plays interact with other's scenes in their plays.
Depending on which performance you are interested in, I play the main character, or a supporting role, or a walk on extra, or a NPC.

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When I say not everyone I mean most. That most people are automatons running a program, i.e., they are a simulation.
The chilling thing about having this pov about other people is that it makes massacring them easy. In the killer's mind, no one is dying because no one is real but themselves. I certainly hope Michael Sherwin never turns violent if he keeps this pov in regards to the reality of nearly everyone but himself.

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User989 wrote: November 23rd, 2019, 1:53 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am It was around 1990 that I came to the realization that not everyone was a real sentient being. When I say not everyone I mean most. That most people are automatons running a program, i.e., they are a simulation. This is an idea that is catching on in the last few years. The term being used today is NPC--Non Player Character. It is being seen in movies, politics and other places.

A quote of InfoWars’ Paul Joseph Watson.
these people could be called NPCs because they use the same phrases over and over again, because they don’t have original ideas, and, ultimately, because “their actions are determined by their coding
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.

That is when I realized that I am the star of my own version of, The Truman Show. There is a clue in the name. The True-man show! So yes I'm wasting my time typing to and trying to teach a bunch of programmed NPCs. And that begs the question, why. My best conclusion given my whole story is that the "producers" of the show are guiding me to something that is in their best interest that is probably not in my best interest. So where are they guiding me to?

"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:"

To a maximum security prison that I'll never be able to leave. It must happen at the time that I am set to evolve. At some point I must be able to resist but why would I resist if I was headed to glory and eternal lives! But I am too observant and too smart for 'their' plan no matter how sophisticated it might be. I will make a break for it if I get the chance.
Michael. Do you truly believe this?
Belief is such a strange word. Many beliefs are baseless. While some things are known and belief does not apply. In all beliefs there is uncertainty. If one claims to be absolutely certain in their beliefs then faith plays no part. I choose to have faith that the Bible contains truth. After the Spirit told me that the BOM land was England (isle of Britain) and subsequently was prodded to examine the BOM for clues I have a new appreciation for the BOM. In the case of the Bible and the BOM, faith is the overriding factor. To change faith into I believe statements is not how it works. The conscious mind can proclaim belief in something unknown. But the subconscious mind can only hope. Can only have faith!

In my OP I recount facts and observations. I then give an interpretation to those facts and observations. There is not enough there to form a belief or even to have faith in any conclusions reached. It is just there.

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I would be cautious and skeptical of any belief or train of thought that relegated the other children of God as being anything less than such.

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Jamescm wrote: December 13th, 2019, 9:05 am I would be cautious and skeptical of any belief or train of thought that relegated the other children of God as being anything less than such.
2Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Matthew 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

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Solipsism is a pesky thing.

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I guess I can see what you're saying. Viktor Frankl's idea that between stimulus and response lies the freedom to choose wouldn't have been the epiphany that it was, were most of us not operating on autopilot most of the time.

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Don't we become rote conformists out of fear of rejection or of punishment?

Faith (trust), Courage and Endurance are required by our Creator. We can't become 'real' boys and girls until we put into practice those Principles. Hope is the Light that keeps us on the way despite what others may or may not do.
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20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.
Do you remember the statements/questions?

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mcusick wrote: December 29th, 2019, 9:36 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.
Do you remember the statements/questions?
I don't remember the statements. But I remember the questions. Name a color and name a hand tool. I think everyone answered yellow and screwdriver but I'm not sure. I forget what I answered.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: December 29th, 2019, 10:19 am
mcusick wrote: December 29th, 2019, 9:36 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.
Do you remember the statements/questions?
I don't remember the statements. But I remember the questions. Name a color and name a hand tool. I think everyone answered yellow and screwdriver but I'm not sure. I forget what I answered.
So do you think that the reading had some sort of hypnotic suggestion, where it would implant these ideas (i.e., yellow/screwdriver)? And 99% of people just kind of are on autopilot and take in the stimulus and output the predetermined answers.

I've thought a lot about the "NPC" thing and how few people experience internal dialogue. It's disconcerting. While I wouldn't say I believe these other people are literally a simulation an inordinate amount of the population behave as if they are.

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mcusick wrote: December 29th, 2019, 10:55 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: December 29th, 2019, 10:19 am
mcusick wrote: December 29th, 2019, 9:36 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.
Do you remember the statements/questions?
I don't remember the statements. But I remember the questions. Name a color and name a hand tool. I think everyone answered yellow and screwdriver but I'm not sure. I forget what I answered.
There must have been something in the statements that had a programming effect or otherwise it would have tended more towards randomness. Whether or not it was some kind of hypnotic effect I have no idea. I do know that some people can be hypnotised and others can't. I also know that I am one that cannot be hypnotised.

So do you think that the reading had some sort of hypnotic suggestion, where it would implant these ideas (i.e., yellow/screwdriver)? And 99% of people just kind of are on autopilot and take in the stimulus and output the predetermined answers.

I've thought a lot about the "NPC" thing and how few people experience internal dialogue. It's disconcerting. While I wouldn't say I believe these other people are literally a simulation an inordinate amount of the population behave as if they are.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: December 29th, 2019, 10:19 am
mcusick wrote: December 29th, 2019, 9:36 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:40 am
In the mid 90's my boss brought a psychological test to work to test his employees. It was a series of statements followed by two questions for the employees to answer. The point of this test was that everyone gives the same two answers even though the statements were not related to the questions. And indeed everyone did give the exact same answers. Except me, because I was the only one who answered differently. That was validation for my theory. All the people that gave the same answers were just automatons running a program.
Do you remember the statements/questions?
I don't remember the statements. But I remember the questions. Name a color and name a hand tool. I think everyone answered yellow and screwdriver but I'm not sure. I forget what I answered.
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There is a quote that goes, "The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing the World He Didn’t Exist."
In these latter days, the greatest trick is making us believe that the world is not real. No real history, no real people, no real Scriptures. It's all a simulation don't you know!
Even when Christ returns, in full view of the worldl, many will say "it's all an illusion". Fortunately, for the world in general and believers in particular, it will be very real.

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Here's a little 'hope' for how the automatons might turn out. Spoof on Boston Dynamics robot tech...

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buffalo_girl wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 11:23 am Here's a little 'hope' for how the automatons might turn out. Spoof on Boston Dynamics robot tech...
That looked pretty dang real to me.

#1 - They were pretty dang abusive to that robot. Put some emotions or sense of survival into that thing and those men would be toast.

#2 - How could they be so confident it wouldn't kill them? I noticed, at the end, it did shoot at their feet.

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The warrior robot fought back only when expected to 'off' the dog robot which also evidenced more 'emotion' than the abusive humans.

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i don't know if i'd say "automatons", though i don't think its an inaccurate description of those who are hardened in spirit. perhaps the more scriptural term would be "beasts", or animals. man was made in the image of god to display and represent his glory in the creation he had made. then man listened to an animal, and then was kicked out to wear animal skins and to eat from the diet given to animals (from the field) in Gen 1 as opposed to the diet which had been ordained for the humans (fruits from the fruit trees).

man harkened to an animal over god, they then became like the animals, and subject to the animal. hence the appellative "Beast" used by john in his Revelation, who has an "image" with "life" breathed into it. proper blasphemy.

we were made higher than the animals and were intended to rule over them in righteousness, not have them rule over us, and the snake who has ruled over would have us be his heirs, rather than heirs of god like we are meant to be. "here am i, son of man - worship me..."

i like the PJ quote in the op. as far as public figures and commentators go, he's among the more based when it comes to the significance of this battle of culture and ideas which now rages about us. the idea of us being products of "coding" isn't crazy. we aren't terribly different from computers, you could even say the invention of computers itself (and plenty of other technological inventions) has its own reminiscences and penumbras from genesis, just look at steve jobs travelling past the third stone from the sun. we have our hardware, and we have our software. the battle for our spirits can probably be likened for a battle of the programming of our internal software. i want my tabernacle to reflect and portray the image of God's operating system

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abijah` wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 7:25 pm i like the PJ quote in the op. as far as public figures and commentators go, he's among the more based when it comes to the significance of this battle of culture and ideas which now rages about us. the idea of us being products of "coding" isn't crazy. we aren't terribly different from computers, you could even say the invention of computers itself (and plenty of other technological inventions) has its own reminiscences and penumbras from genesis, just look at steve jobs travelling past the third stone from the sun. we have our hardware, and we have our software. the battle for our spirits can probably be likened for a battle of the programming of our internal software. i want my tabernacle to reflect and portray the image of God's operating system
i'm remembering this great video (and series - this is the third installment of three 2+ hourlong videos on speculative prophetic developments of the last days) on youtube which as a whole is actually remarkably relevant to this thread, if sherwin has the time and patience to watch it and offer his musings i think that would be pretty cool -

WATCH 10:05 - 11:45 and WATCH 16:20 - 18:55, comparisons "sin" (as a result of the fall) to a highly sophisticated "computer virus", also ties in the necessity of agency and independent will. our "internal software operating system" is circular in structure, circling in a never-ending loop of infinite death or a never-ending loop of life eternal. this is what the last days will all be about, and ultimately its what our probation here on earth is all about -
Satan's Likely Endtime Plan for Collectivised and Universal Tyranny

and again, i highly recommend the entire film. a cyber-hivemind could easily be the devil's planned anti-zion of the last days, and the counterfeit to the universally-binding power of christ who said "If ye are not one, ye are not mine". a cybernetic dystopia is the perfect fulfillment of satan's proposed infallible plan back before.

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abijah` wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 8:09 pm
abijah` wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 7:25 pm i like the PJ quote in the op. as far as public figures and commentators go, he's among the more based when it comes to the significance of this battle of culture and ideas which now rages about us. the idea of us being products of "coding" isn't crazy. we aren't terribly different from computers, you could even say the invention of computers itself (and plenty of other technological inventions) has its own reminiscences and penumbras from genesis, just look at steve jobs travelling past the third stone from the sun. we have our hardware, and we have our software. the battle for our spirits can probably be likened for a battle of the programming of our internal software. i want my tabernacle to reflect and portray the image of God's operating system
i'm remembering this great video (and series - this is the third installment of three 2+ hourlong videos on speculative prophetic developments of the last days) on youtube which as a whole is actually remarkably relevant to this thread, if sherwin has the time and patience to watch it and offer his musings i think that would be pretty cool -

WATCH 10:05 - 11:45 and WATCH 16:20 - 18:55, comparisons "sin" (as a result of the fall) to a highly sophisticated "computer virus", also ties in the necessity of agency and independent will. our "internal software operating system" is circular in structure, circling in a never-ending loop of infinite death or a never-ending loop of life eternal. this is what the last days will all be about, and ultimately its what our probation here on earth is all about -
Satan's Likely Endtime Plan for Collectivised and Universal Tyranny

and again, i highly recommend the entire film. a cyber-hivemind could easily be the devil's planned anti-zion of the last days, and the counterfeit to the universally-binding power of christ who said "If ye are not one, ye are not mine". a cybernetic dystopia is the perfect fulfillment of satan's proposed infallible plan back before.
That was one of the most disjointed commentaries I have ever tried to listen to. Even though the gift of logic is not mentioned in scripture it exist and to toot my own horn I have been given the gift of logic to a very high degree. Sorry for declaring that but what I'm trying to say about the video is that the narrator strung one thing after another together as though they were logically connected. In reality there was almost zero logical connectivity at best and just plain error at worst. I can't cover all the errors as each one would take longer to expose than it took to make. However, if there is a specific point that anyone would like my opinion on I can do that!

The heat death of the universe is talked about. That is so far off in time it is meaningless to us and has no place in the understanding of God's plan. Besides, if and when this creation ends it will be by fire and not by freezing, as the Bible clearly says in many places.

A computer virus being equated to the made up idea of a sin virus who's goal is death has zero basis in reality and in scripture. There is the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. There is the Spirit of Christ and the spirit of antichrist. The spirit of antichrist can only operate in this creation because we are under the mystery of iniquity. It is an influence to our agency. A computer virus is not an influence. It is a piece of code that is inserted into other code that when activated takes total control. There is no logical connection, yet the narrator virtually says they are the same and both involve agency. Totally ridiculous.

Everything he said that I listened to was all like the above. I only sampled here and there as I could not tolerate listening to much of it. But like I said if there is a specific point that anyone would like me to comment on please ask and provide a time stamp, thank you.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 11:58 pm That was one of the most disjointed commentaries I have ever tried to listen to. Even though the gift of logic is not mentioned in scripture it exist and to toot my own horn I have been given the gift of logic to a very high degree. Sorry for declaring that ...

Me is glad someone here, has a bit more than half a brain. :P

Even your earthquakes followed a logical pattern,
making it a breeze to customize a search URL, thusly:
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Gammer and commas, evidently not your strong suit. :mrgreen: :geek:

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