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"Are there worldwide cults whose membership includes the world’s political and religious leaders abusing and murdering children? Are social organizations, think tanks, news agencies, watchdogs and whistleblowers often as not fully complicit underlings of these secret societies that have, working in concert, managed to create a generalized feeling of hopelessness and fear over continent after continent?

....was also confirmed, as was our information that only after Scalia’s death could Sterling Allan be arrested."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/19 ... he-fallen/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

whats happened him??
if sushi_s memory correct, he served in full-time(1.5 year) missionary in sushi_s country.... making-their-inferiors-carry-the-can type?? his real mission was to discredit those greaterthings.com prophecies stuff, free energy stuff etc??

sterling allan http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF ... ng%20Allan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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sushi_chef wrote:"Are there worldwide cults whose membership includes the world’s political and religious leaders abusing and murdering children? Are social organizations, think tanks, news agencies, watchdogs and whistleblowers often as not fully complicit underlings of these secret societies that have, working in concert, managed to create a generalized feeling of hopelessness and fear over continent after continent?

....was also confirmed, as was our information that only after Scalia’s death could Sterling Allan be arrested."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/19 ... he-fallen/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

whats happened him??
if sushi_s memory correct, he served in full-time(1.5 year) missionary in sushi_s country.... making-their-inferiors-carry-the-can type?? his real mission was to discredit those greaterthings.com prophecies stuff, free energy stuff etc??

sterling allan http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF ... ng%20Allan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:-B
That's actually a very interesting read.

Of course, there is little chance that society is going to do anything about it. LDS are welcoming queers and illegals and still allow democrats in the Temples.

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light-one wrote:still allow democrats in the Temples.
Oh this is rich indeed! Have we ever, and I mean ever, had a political test of any kind to enter the temple let alone denying entry to democrats? Are you seriously suggesting that the Bishop and Stake Presidents in the United States be instructed to ask, "are you registered or have you voted for a member for the Democratic Party?"

What would that question be like in Canada, Mexico, Australia or the United Kingdom?

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light-one wrote:still allow democrats in the Temples.
Oh this is rich indeed! Have we ever, and I mean ever, had a political test of any kind to enter the temple let alone denying entry to democrats? Are you seriously suggesting that the Bishop and Stake Presidents in the United States be instructed to ask, "are you registered or have you voted for a member for the Democratic Party?"

What would that question be like in Canada, Mexico, Australia or the United Kingdom?
There already is a question, but many lie. The term "democrat" is a variable placeholder that can be replaced with many other terms to depict the particular circumstance or country. Basically, the context in which I used it would be any person that supports, especially financially, planned parenthood, illegal immigration, BLM, DNR, redistribution of wealth, ANY infringement on the 2nd amendment, licenses, property taxes, and a thousand other things related to socialism. And of course, anyone that voted for Obama, even out of ignorance.

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light-one wrote:There already is a question, but many lie. The term "democrat" is a variable placeholder that can be replaced with many other terms to depict the particular circumstance or country. Basically, the context in which I used it would be any person that supports, especially financially, planned parenthood, illegal immigration, BLM, DNR, redistribution of wealth, ANY infringement on the 2nd amendment, licenses, property taxes, and a thousand other things related to socialism. And of course, anyone that voted for Obama, even out of ignorance.
And just what question would that be? I don't remember ever being asked about any of those items in any temple recommend interview I have ever had. You are imposing your own beliefs onto the requirements to enter the temple.

It is fortunate for all of us that you are not in a position to ask any of this to members of the church and I suspect that if you were and you did "improve" upon the questions you would swiftly find yourself relieved of that responsibility.

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gkearney wrote:
light-one wrote:There already is a question, but many lie. The term "democrat" is a variable placeholder that can be replaced with many other terms to depict the particular circumstance or country. Basically, the context in which I used it would be any person that supports, especially financially, planned parenthood, illegal immigration, BLM, DNR, redistribution of wealth, ANY infringement on the 2nd amendment, licenses, property taxes, and a thousand other things related to socialism. And of course, anyone that voted for Obama, even out of ignorance.
And just what question would that be? I don't remember ever being asked about any of those items in any temple recommend interview I have ever had. You are imposing your own beliefs onto the requirements to enter the temple.

It is fortunate for all of us that you are not in a position to ask any of this to members of the church and I suspect that if you were and you did "improve" upon the questions you would swiftly find yourself relieved of that responsibility.
Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?

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light-one wrote:
Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?
Can you cite a single example of that question ever being used by Amy church authority to mean anything like what you are suggesting? Do you know of anyone not being given a temple recommend because they voted for Obama. Look I don't hide my very liberal politics from anyone including my Bishops an not one has ever suggested that that was the intent of that question. They all knew and know my politics.

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gkearney wrote:
light-one wrote:
Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?
Can you cite a single example of that question ever being used by Amy church authority to mean anything like what you are suggesting? Do you know of anyone not being given a temple recommend because they voted for Obama. Look I don't hide my very liberal politics from anyone including my Bishops an not one has ever suggested that that was the intent of that question. They all knew and know my politics.
So maybe you are missing the point - which is being honest with your self and God in light of that question, without the need of any quotes from any other counsel of man-flesh-brethren or prophets, an agent unto thyself, to back up the very complex and many ways we can sin with that single question alone. Who cares what the bishops think about your liberal politics, it will be you and yourself looking at each other with the Lord as the loving advocate as we condemn ourselves for having been deceived or hearing His voice asking us to be honest with our liberal politics and that question - which speaks largely to ones willful or blind ignorance.

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gkearney wrote:
light-one wrote:
Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?
Can you cite a single example of that question ever being used by Amy church authority to mean anything like what you are suggesting? Do you know of anyone not being given a temple recommend because they voted for Obama. Look I don't hide my very liberal politics from anyone including my Bishops an not one has ever suggested that that was the intent of that question. They all knew and know my politics.
The Apostles and Prophets have spoken. Socialism is of the devil. Every whit. Not just an itty bitty fraction. So why let socialists in the Temple?

Today, in the United States, there is no difference between being a socialist and a democrat.

So when a Bishop or Stake President disregards the words of the Prophets, and because of tithing receipts or actually being a friend of the evil one, allows the scum into the Temple, how can the worthy members expect to find the Spirit of the Lord?

You can defend your master all you want. But my master does not support Planned Parenthood, government subsidies, deficit spending, secret combinations, unconstitutional acts, or pretty much the entire democratic platform. It's bad enough to have to sit by these people in church, but I understand that however remote, the possibility may exist that they will repent. They won't be in the Celestial Kingdom, so why should they be allowed in the Celestial Room?

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The problem here is that if everyone followed this "advice" there would be no one left to attend the temple at all. Consider for a moment the items which light-one suggest should disqualify one from temple admission:

"any person that supports, especially financially, planned parenthood, illegal immigration, BLM, DNR, redistribution of wealth, ANY infringement on the 2nd amendment, licenses, property taxes, and a thousand other things related to socialism." along with simply "being a democrat" or having "voted for Obama".

So with that anyone who has ever paid income (redistribution of wealth) or property taxes are now not permitted in the temple, anyone holding a driver's, marriage or any other form of government issued license is out. Anyone holding a concealed weapons permit (infringement on the 2nd amendment) anyone working for the BLM or a host of other government agencies, anyone who get a permit form such an agency for any activity this would include the helping the Boy Scouts with such permits for camps, etc. Any Scout who engaged in a service project on any federal lands is not bared from performing baptisms in the temple. All democrats, anyone who ever voted for Obama. One could also argue that using the public streets, sidewalks, parks, hospitals, or any other public service should also disqualify a member form the temple.

Of course this is ridiculous on its face. We are not and indeed should not empty out the temples of the church based on one person's distorted notions that we should all live on this mythical island where there is no social interactions or public betterment.

Indeed I am willing to bet that light-one is a hypocrite in this matter. I bet light-one has a driver's license, if married he or she has a marriage licenses too. I am willing to bet they pay income and property taxes, have license plates on his car, has used public parks and other public resources on a daily basis. They likely got educated at public schools, and we know they use the internet, a system developed by means of public funds. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Light-one you had better go forthwith to your Bishop and turn in your Temple Recommend shame on you for not following your own words.

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"So when a Bishop or Stake President disregards the words of the Prophets, and because of tithing receipts or actually being a friend of the evil one, allows the scum into the Temple, how can the worthy members expect to find the Spirit of the Lord?"

You have issues mate. Get help.

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gkearney wrote:The problem here is that if everyone followed this "advice" there would be no one left to attend the temple at all. Consider for a moment the items which light-one suggest should disqualify one from temple admission:

"any person that supports, especially financially, planned parenthood, illegal immigration, BLM, DNR, redistribution of wealth, ANY infringement on the 2nd amendment, licenses, property taxes, and a thousand other things related to socialism." along with simply "being a democrat" or having "voted for Obama".

So with that anyone who has ever paid income (redistribution of wealth) or property taxes are now not permitted in the temple, anyone holding a driver's, marriage or any other form of government issued license is out. Anyone holding a concealed weapons permit (infringement on the 2nd amendment) anyone working for the BLM or a host of other government agencies, anyone who get a permit form such an agency for any activity this would include the helping the Boy Scouts with such permits for camps, etc. Any Scout who engaged in a service project on any federal lands is not bared from performing baptisms in the temple. All democrats, anyone who ever voted for Obama. One could also argue that using the public streets, sidewalks, parks, hospitals, or any other public service should also disqualify a member form the temple.

Of course this is ridiculous on its face. We are not and indeed should not empty out the temples of the church based on one person's distorted notions that we should all live on this mythical island where there is no social interactions or public betterment.

Indeed I am willing to bet that light-one is a hypocrite in this matter. I bet light-one has a driver's license, if married he or she has a marriage licenses too. I am willing to bet they pay income and property taxes, have license plates on his car, has used public parks and other public resources on a daily basis. They likely got educated at public schools, and we know they use the internet, a system developed by means of public funds. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Light-one you had better go forthwith to your Bishop and turn in your Temple Recommend shame on you for not following your own words.
Mandatory payments to evil causes do not count. Just like a rape victim did not consent and therefore is guiltless.

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light-one wrote:
gkearney wrote:The problem here is that if everyone followed this "advice" there would be no one left to attend the temple at all. Consider for a moment the items which light-one suggest should disqualify one from temple admission:

"any person that supports, especially financially, planned parenthood, illegal immigration, BLM, DNR, redistribution of wealth, ANY infringement on the 2nd amendment, licenses, property taxes, and a thousand other things related to socialism." along with simply "being a democrat" or having "voted for Obama".

So with that anyone who has ever paid income (redistribution of wealth) or property taxes are now not permitted in the temple, anyone holding a driver's, marriage or any other form of government issued license is out. Anyone holding a concealed weapons permit (infringement on the 2nd amendment) anyone working for the BLM or a host of other government agencies, anyone who get a permit form such an agency for any activity this would include the helping the Boy Scouts with such permits for camps, etc. Any Scout who engaged in a service project on any federal lands is not bared from performing baptisms in the temple. All democrats, anyone who ever voted for Obama. One could also argue that using the public streets, sidewalks, parks, hospitals, or any other public service should also disqualify a member form the temple.

Of course this is ridiculous on its face. We are not and indeed should not empty out the temples of the church based on one person's distorted notions that we should all live on this mythical island where there is no social interactions or public betterment.

Indeed I am willing to bet that light-one is a hypocrite in this matter. I bet light-one has a driver's license, if married he or she has a marriage licenses too. I am willing to bet they pay income and property taxes, have license plates on his car, has used public parks and other public resources on a daily basis. They likely got educated at public schools, and we know they use the internet, a system developed by means of public funds. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Light-one you had better go forthwith to your Bishop and turn in your Temple Recommend shame on you for not following your own words.
Mandatory payments to evil causes do not count. Just like a rape victim did not consent and therefore is guiltless.
There is always an out for you isn't there? No one forced you to get a driver's license, no one forced you to get a marriage license you could choose to take a stand but you choose not to you choose to be a hypocrite in these matters.

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My responses in blue:
light-one wrote:
gkearney wrote:
light-one wrote:
Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?
Can you cite a single example of that question ever being used by Amy church authority to mean anything like what you are suggesting? Do you know of anyone not being given a temple recommend because they voted for Obama. Look I don't hide my very liberal politics from anyone including my Bishops an not one has ever suggested that that was the intent of that question. They all knew and know my politics.
The Apostles and Prophets have spoken. Socialism is of the devil. Every whit. Not just an itty bitty fraction. So why let socialists in the Temple?Socialism is an oppressive, satanic system, but if we were to prevent Socialists from attending the temple, why do we bother to preach the gospel in socialist countries? You know we have LDS members who live under socialist and quasi socialist systems. We even built a temple in a communist country. So, clearly, you are looking beyond the mark in your loathing of socialism to the luciferian point of loathing the people themselves.

Today, in the United States, there is no difference between being a socialist and a democrat.I'm pretty sure that there are definite differences, though the democrat party does support some socialist principles. However, it ought to disturb us that Republicans support some too, and they usually won't even admit it.

So when a Bishop or Stake President disregards the words of the Prophets, and because of tithing receipts or actually being a friend of the evil one, allows the scum into the Temple, how can the worthy members expect to find the Spirit of the Lord? By your insinuations, I assume that you've turned against Pres. Monson too. He was instrumental in getting the temple in Eastern Germany built--a socialist/communist country. Did he allow 'scum ' to have a temple? The fact that you understand the evil of socialism makes you more deserving than others? Is that your standard? Because it's not Heavenly Father's standard. He judges us by our hearts and our intents.
You can defend your master all you want. But my master does not support Planned Parenthood, government subsidies, deficit spending, secret combinations, unconstitutional acts, or pretty much the entire democratic platform. It's bad enough to have to sit by these people in church, but I understand that however remote, the possibility may exist that they will repent. They won't be in the Celestial Kingdom, so why should they be allowed in the Celestial Room?
Your master is hiding behind the enmity you nurture within your soul. The worst thing is that your pride and hatred keep HIM hidden from you. Maybe you should read Pres. Benson's talk about pride, he talked a lot about 'enmity'--something that has taken hold of your heart and if you don't overcome this, it will keep you from being able to enter the presence of God.

While I despise what the Democrats have done to our country, we should never forget that God requires that we love our fellow man, as ourselves--and that includes those we vehemently disagree with.

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So when a Bishop or Stake President disregards the words of the Prophets, and because of tithing receipts or actually being a friend of the evil one, allows the scum into the Temple, how can the worthy members expect to find the Spirit of the Lord?
I'm going to emphasize this comment, because YOU need to ponder on your own worthiness to enter the temple. You are speaking evil of the Lord's annointed. As I said earlier, Pres. Monson speaks german and was instrumental in getting the Frieburg temple built--it was the first temple built in a communist state. Pres. Monson presided at the groundbreaking and Pres. Hinckley dedicated it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiberg_Germany_Temple

So, please think about what you are accusing Bishops and Stake Presidents of doing. Recognize that in accusing them, you are also accusing our Prophets of the same thing, because they built a temple FOR COMMUNISTS!

If you believe the Prophet of our church is guided by the spirit and does the will of the Lord, then YOU need to rethink your hatred of those who have different political affiliations from you. If Pres. Monson is his prophet on earth, then clearly, the Lord wants communists and democrats to also enter his temples and enjoy the blessings and ordinances offered there. Who are you to deny the will of the Lord??

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AI2.0 wrote:My responses in blue:
light-one wrote:
gkearney wrote:
light-one wrote:
Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?
Can you cite a single example of that question ever being used by Amy church authority to mean anything like what you are suggesting? Do you know of anyone not being given a temple recommend because they voted for Obama. Look I don't hide my very liberal politics from anyone including my Bishops an not one has ever suggested that that was the intent of that question. They all knew and know my politics.
The Apostles and Prophets have spoken. Socialism is of the devil. Every whit. Not just an itty bitty fraction. So why let socialists in the Temple?Socialism is an oppressive, satanic system, but if we were to prevent Socialists from attending the temple, why do we bother to preach the gospel in socialist countries? You know we have LDS members who live under socialist and quasi socialist systems. We even built a temple in a communist country. So, clearly, you are looking beyond the mark in your loathing of socialism to the luciferian point of loathing the people themselves.

Today, in the United States, there is no difference between being a socialist and a democrat.I'm pretty sure that there are definite differences, though the democrat party does support some socialist principles. However, it ought to disturb us that Republicans support some too, and they usually won't even admit it.

So when a Bishop or Stake President disregards the words of the Prophets, and because of tithing receipts or actually being a friend of the evil one, allows the scum into the Temple, how can the worthy members expect to find the Spirit of the Lord? By your insinuations, I assume that you've turned against Pres. Monson too. He was instrumental in getting the temple in Eastern Germany built--a socialist/communist country. Did he allow 'scum ' to have a temple? The fact that you understand the evil of socialism makes you more deserving than others? Is that your standard? Because it's not Heavenly Father's standard. He judges us by our hearts and our intents.
You can defend your master all you want. But my master does not support Planned Parenthood, government subsidies, deficit spending, secret combinations, unconstitutional acts, or pretty much the entire democratic platform. It's bad enough to have to sit by these people in church, but I understand that however remote, the possibility may exist that they will repent. They won't be in the Celestial Kingdom, so why should they be allowed in the Celestial Room?
Your master is hiding behind the enmity you nurture within your soul. The worst thing is that your pride and hatred keep HIM hidden from you. Maybe you should read Pres. Benson's talk about pride, he talked a lot about 'enmity'--something that has taken hold of your heart and if you don't overcome this, it will keep you from being able to enter the presence of God.

While I despise what the Democrats have done to our country, we should never forget that God requires that we love our fellow man, as ourselves--and that includes those we vehemently disagree with.
People that live in socialist countries have few, if any choices. I am not against these people or their Temples.

There are a few things that make this unique to the United States. The U.S. is the country that God held back or reserved for the restoration of Christ's Church. This is the country that He inspired the constitution so that we could be free and the church could grow. This is the country that should not take this freedom for granted and act as if we were one of the countries you speak of. This country was never meant to be a democracy. The constitution was designed to prevent us from ever being a democracy. God will not punish socialists in socialist countries for being socialist. Although He uses the United States for an example of freedom. However, I do believe that He will punish US for being socialist. The Prophets are clear on socialism being of the devil. In this regard, I believe that the United States are held to a higher standard. And when the cleansing begins, it begins here. I think the cleansing has already begun.

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Hey! WHAT about sushi-chef's question regarding pedophilia amongst the 'secret combinations' which have 'gotten above us'?

It's a grave issue. One that impacts the course and outcome of human history.


It appears this Sterling Allan was excommunicated. Good.

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