Are Space Aliens actually Demons?

[notjamesbond003.5]

If one reads the free online book:
They Are Save Two Churches Volume II by Christian Markam much to my delight he covers this topic in depth and validates my opening post.

Njb

[LateOutOfBed]

If one reads the free online book:
They Are Save Two Churches Volume II by Christian Markam much to my delight he covers this topic in depth and validates my opening post.

Njb

Loved that book. I think he is more spot on in many of his topics than almost any other author I've read.

[notjamesbond003.5]

If one reads the free online book:
They Are Save Two Churches Volume II by Christian Markam much to my delight he covers this topic in depth and validates my opening post.

Njb

Loved that book. I think he is more spot on in many of his topics than almost any other author I've read.

Yeah the guy has zero fear.
Don't think him 'and Russell will be sharing a hot tub together anytime soon.

njb

[Zion2080]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

Well that's one (fairly narrow) interpretation. Another interpretation would be that if anyone from another planet DOES show up, we will know they are not sent from God.

That's TERRIFYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Knights Templar]

Think about it.

Anytime someone is abducted by "Space Aliens" they talk about being deathly afraid, powerless to do anything, and are subject to bodily invasions, probes and penetrations.

What say you?

njb

My only question about that, we know like the book of revelations taught that aliens are demons (revelation 16), but there are many relates of reptilian beasts, my question is how they can turns to human and reptilian? how this works? Joseph Smith Jr taught us that spirit is material but more refined, but thy have power to procriate with the human gender? let's consider the bible, the angels came from the sky and did sex with the human kind, from this borns the Nephilims, but Joseph had taught that the only angels that could minister in our world are the angels that or borned or will to born in our earth, this angles like describe in Genesis seems like fallen angels or the demons, we know that the were casted in this earth before Adam and Eva and in some mode this demons founded a way to do sex with de humans, but if the are all demons why the biblie don't describe like demons instead angels from sky? this is so strange for me.
About the Repitilian we know that the serpent in the original write means Reptile and no just a snake or viper, we conclude that Satan are a Reptilian but and in accord of the bible God curse him with this state like we learn in the temple, since this time satan becomes to a reptile and his angels to, but how can they do sex with humans?????

[Knights Templar]

The satanic ritual abuse is very likely, combined with drugging the victim & halluconigens. Coupled with PTB, shadow govt/CIA - as well as firmly entrenched and protected satanic groups with secret combination protection.

this is very plausible, but the self bible descbribe satan's like a serpent (reptile), truth or not this make sense, and the bible reveal three fouls frogs spirits in the 6° trumpet and them mission was to congragate with the kings of the land

[Knights Templar]

I'll give two experiences:
1) When I was in the Navy I was the captain's damage controlman. I sat behind the captain's chair whenever something happened like sea and anchor detail, fuel replenishment, or general quarters. One late night I was called to my station. The plotters had found something (a hit on the radar) that was confusing everyone. For a few minutes the plotters thought it was a small boat in the middle of the Pacific because of its signature, then for a few more minutes it was a helicopter because it was airborne and hovering, then it was a fast moving aircraft and it was coming right at us. A large ball of light shot across the bow of the ship causing the bridge to light up. The ball of light made no noise. Then the object was gone. The captain left the bridge and came back with the intel officer who told everyone not to mention anything about what we had experienced to anyone else on the ship. Can you guess what everyone was talking about the next morning at breakfast?

2) My last three years in the military I was a protector for admirals, generals, and diplomats with NATO. One night I was protecting a general at his villa. There were normally two of us in full gear including night vision goggles. My buddy and I were laying on brick walls and looking up at the night sky. We watched as an aircraft with navigator lights blinking traveled from south to north. We noticed four other lights intercepting the aircraft from the north, south, east, and west. They didn't have navigator lights. My partner looked to me and asked if I could see the four aircraft without navigator lights? I told him I could and the four lights could just be the escorts.

When the four lights reached the aircraft at about the same distance the light that came from the north reversed 180-degrees and was now traveling in-front of the aircraft. The lights coming from the east and west cut 90-degrees and were traveling along side the aircraft. And the light trailing the aircraft continued to follow.

My partner and I looked at each other and couldn't believe what we had just observed. We had both been around combat and recon aircraft for a long time and we both knew that nothing could do what those three lights did.

3) The third experience(s) happened right after the second experience, but they are so bizarre and confusing I'm only going to say our governments know!

Do I believe that aliens exist? YES! Do I believe they are evil? NO! I believe they have agency just like we do. Does this affect my testimony in God? YES! It confirms my belief in God.

what's your opinion about abdction, greys aliens, demons pretending be aliens to persuade the people to believe that they are our creators and our gods? like the Sumerians believe?? and this like the people of the earth will give them the honor, the glory like the revelations book taught about the Beast?? there are some theorys report that they want to create hybrid humans like the Nephilim and pretend to give us the cure of illness, improve the time of life etc and the people will worship them??

[Durzan]

Aliens can't possibly be demons, because Demons are the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven that were cast out of heaven before the world was made and are therefore non-coporeal.

If you manage to get past that issue, then I would be willing to entertain this hypothesis... at least to the degree that my skepticism for the existence of aliens, the NWO, and conspiracy theories in general would allow.

[Matchmaker]

Aliens can't possibly be demons, because Demons are the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven that were cast out of heaven before the world was made and are therefore non-coporeal.

If you manage to get past that issue, then I would be willing to entertain this hypothesis... at least to the degree that my skepticism for the existence of aliens, the NWO, and conspiracy theories in general would allow.

The demon spirits have the ability to enter into and take possession of other people's bodies (the Apostles and Jesus cast them out of both men and women) and the bodies of swine. Thus, they can do tremendous damage without having an actual corporeal body of their own.

[Alaris]

Matchmaker Durzan

[Durzan]

Aliens can't possibly be demons, because Demons are the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven that were cast out of heaven before the world was made and are therefore non-coporeal.

If you manage to get past that issue, then I would be willing to entertain this hypothesis... at least to the degree that my skepticism for the existence of aliens, the NWO, and conspiracy theories in general would allow.

The demon spirits have the ability to enter into and take possession of other people's bodies (the Apostles and Jesus cast them out of both men and women) and the bodies of swine. Thus, they can do tremendous damage without having an actual corporeal body of their own.

Technically, that would make them posessed humans, or possessed animals... not space aliens with UFO's. Therefore they still cannot be the same thing. You would still have to have Grey Aliens as a separate entity, and then have the demons possess the aliens in order to even come close to your current hypothesis... which of course renders the original hypothesis false.

And possession isn't exactly the most reliable tool for demons. Most of the time, they can only maintain the possession for short periods of time,before they are rejected by our own spirits. It would a willing host (due to the law of agency) allowing the demons into their body, in order for a demon to get even a somewhat reliable physical body to interact with... and even then, that is not entirely reliable, as the host spirit of the body wouldn't usually relinquish total control to the demon. Thus, it would take a spirit willingly surrendering all control of their body for a demon to have complete and utter control... and doing so WOULDN'T twist the body's natural appearance in any significantly noticeable way... so a possessed human wouldn't be physically changed into a Grey Alien.

[Matchmaker]

Aliens can't possibly be demons, because Demons are the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven that were cast out of heaven before the world was made and are therefore non-coporeal.

If you manage to get past that issue, then I would be willing to entertain this hypothesis... at least to the degree that my skepticism for the existence of aliens, the NWO, and conspiracy theories in general would allow.

The demon spirits have the ability to enter into and take possession of other people's bodies (the Apostles and Jesus cast them out of both men and women) and the bodies of swine. Thus, they can do tremendous damage without having an actual corporeal body of their own.

Technically, that would make them posessed humans, or possessed animals... not space aliens with UFO's. Therefore they still cannot be the same thing. You would still have to have Grey Aliens as a separate entity, and then have the demons possess the aliens in order to even come close to your current hypothesis... which of course renders the original hypothesis false.

And possession isn't exactly the most reliable tool for demons. Most of the time, they can only maintain the possession for short periods of time,before they are rejected by our own spirits. It would a willing host (due to the law of agency) allowing the demons into their body, in order for a demon to get even a somewhat reliable physical body to interact with... and even then, that is not entirely reliable, as the host spirit of the body wouldn't usually relinquish total control to the demon. Thus, it would take a spirit willingly surrendering all control of their body for a demon to have complete and utter control... and doing so WOULDN'T twist the body's natural appearance in any significantly noticeable way... so a possessed human wouldn't be physically changed into a Grey Alien.

Your post is interesting and makes me think. We know through scripture that Lucifer's minions cannot have a body of their own of flesh and bone in the image of Heavenly Father, like we can. Perhaps the greys do not have bodies of flesh and bone but have forms made from some other substance that resembles human flesh, and their spirits are able to manipulate this substance to fool us into thinking they have real bodies like ours.

[Matchmaker]

Matchmaker Durzan

I know. We've got the same avatars, though I joined in 2014 and Durzan in 2016.

[Durzan]

Matchmaker Durzan

I know. We've got the same avatars, though I joined in 2014 and Durzan in 2016.

I will say that I did claim this avatar first though. I distinctly remembering you saying you liked it and would steal it from me.

[Matchmaker]

Matchmaker Durzan

I know. We've got the same avatars, though I joined in 2014 and Durzan in 2016.

I will say that I did claim this avatar first though. I distinctly remembering you saying you liked it and would steal it from me.

Impossible! I've had this avatar for a very long time!

[ExtraCelestial]

Those fallen angels who lost their first estate (Lucifer and Co.) were cast down to the earth and have power given to them to tempt us. IMO, these evil, unembodied spirits have power to change them selves into angels of light, and thus likely have power to change themselves into other ungodly forms/personages of darkness. Likewise, these spiritual beings know our thoughts and can tempt us - if they know what makes us tick, maybe they can take advantage of that and take the forms of those beings/forms that frighten us most (aliens, grays, reptilians, and so on). Likewise, does satan have power to form tabernacles of flesh through DNA/genetic research means and then allow he and his followers to inhabit these bodies?

[gigarath24]

I think there is purposeful deceit that has been going on since the Roswell crash in the 50's that has gone a long way in equating UFOs to automatically = alien beings from another world.

Based on a great deal of personal research I've done, and a great deal of prayer into the matter, I'm convinced of the following:
1) UFOs are man-made, and man-manned. There's a great deal of evidence and testimony that supports this conclusion, but I won't go into such here.
2) "Aliens" (e.g. little grey men) are demons. I lean toward the Genesis 6 theories -- that deeply Luciferian groups somehow conduct DNA experiments, or conduct some sort of twisted-offspring breeding to occur (ala "Rosemary's Baby" type deal) which results in the creation of physical, organic "bodies" which Lucifer and his minions can somehow inhabit/take control of. These condemned spirits are so desperate to inhabit and take control of any flesh (as demonstrated in the New Testament when the Savior cast them out from the crazy guy and permitted them to enter the herd of swine) that it's entirely feasible that they'd go to any lengths to have any kind of body created for them -- and if Luciferian groups used their free-agency to create them, the Lord would probably not intervene to stop it (as He doesn't intervene with the millions of abortion deaths nor fetal DNA experimentation, cloning, etc.)
3) At some point within the next 7 to 10 years, these "aliens" will be introduced to the world as a benevolent race of "watchers" -- likely sold to the world as the Ascendent Masters that have been communicating with and inspiring New Age followers. Books like "Communion" serve to prepare the minds of the masses for this introduction.

That's about all I have to say on the matter. If anyone wishes to rebut, feel free, but I apologize in advance for not having any additional free time to respond.

This is a really interesting perspective, and in fact I would venture to say is one of the better theories that I have heard.

[Fred]

I've been asked in PM to comment concerning this thread...


Today is April the 6th, so happy Atonement/Christ's birthday and Happy anniversary of the Church.

Alright, now for the Watchers. They were fallen men, but fallen men of a higher degree of glory. Apparently they violated a celestial law, and were sentenced to a lower degree of glory here, not having violated the law of denying the Holy Ghost, therefore lost their celestial standing but not enough to land them in outer darkness... yet.

Now, this is a hard concept or I should say a difficult doctrine to understand and is often hidden, because the idea of a celestial being falling after a form of resurrection, terrifies most people.
But it is a true principle that you can fall at any step in the Plan... For instance, it says in the scriptures that 'if God were to lie than He would cease to be God' and that is true in every sense of the word. That is why our most high God and Father is perfect, because He continually chooses to keep the laws of Elohim, among the vast other concourses of laws. Hence why He and the Savior are such amazing examples they are for us.

As for the watchers, they violated something significant to get them to fall from their previous glory to end up on the earth as "watchers"... The term "watcher" was originally associated with the assignment they were, and the good ones are given.

The word to watch or to be a watchman in Hebrew is Neph-i, or interestingly Nephi... which is the root for the word Nephilim... which means large children of the Watchers.

Now, during the days the watchers were running amok on the earth were the days of Enoch. Even in the Pearl of Great Price it talks about the giants watching from him from afar. The wickedness spread by these watchers was profound and never before seen, this is because they were taking higher laws and principles... as mentioned in earlier posts by others... the greater more sacred things of the Lord, using them to pretend to be gods again or once more. They in a sense wanted what they once had and were after their indiscretion forbidden to have... which is the continuation of eternal lives through progenity and seed.

Also, the women they took as wives and there were many of them, (these men lived plurality to the extreme) were slated to be given to other men which were righteous... Wives are considered by God the Father to be the highest gifts a man could receive.

Now through these "unholy unions" as the secular world would call them, but the Lord prefers to refer to them as unsanctioned and disobedient... they formed a generation of cannibalistic giants ("of great renown" they called their own children).

This resulted in a desperate need by the line of Seth and Adam's righteous children to keep their lines pure Adam lineage and to avoid corruption by marrying anyone with Watcher lineage. This had to do directly with priesthood lines. This is why when Noah was born, and he glowed with light and spoke from the womb because the Spirit was so strong in him from infancy, that his father panicked and accused his wife of having an affair with a watcher. They had to get Enoch to determine the lineage through prophecy of the child Noah.

The watchers were, for their crimes while upon the earth... sentenced to be sealed up in a prison somewhere upon this earth until the last days when the "great day" of Satan's "power" occurs and they are released for a season... That is that Book of Revelation reference to the pit being opened and things being released.

I don't understand why they weren't sentenced to outer darkness or given the same punishment as Satan, for their actions were similar, but I do know that they still have bodies and power given to them which is destructive and profane... just as Satan has "power and priesthoods."

I was about to describe the watchers to you, but I have been stopped by the Spirit of the Lord. That has already been mentioned elsewhere and to go into the details of these creatures is to steer away from the things of the Lord. It suffices me to say that they were fallen from grace. They fell and great the fall was thereof, no fall was greater save that of perdition... the original perdition. And that is where the outer darkness lies, and they are not yet sentenced to there, neither are the evil spirits that satan reigns over cast there until the end of the millennium when their judgment is brought upon them.

I was going to comment on the "aliens" thing, but I'll just leave it at that. There is no need to debate the "aliens" concept, because "aliens" is a new age or science term that doesn't apply here except to say that something that isn't of your own nation or planet or kindred is considered alien or "gentile".

Be careful of how much you speak of these things, the watchers, they are a dark and disturbing subject that the Lord hasn't revealed much about for reasons... one of Noah's grandson's was punished severely for finding and reading and professing the words of the watchers that he found upon a stone generations after the flood. Some secret combinations should never see the light of day, save to understand that they exist.

This thread is interesting and long. Suggested theories range from the giants being aliens to dinosaurs. I didn't read every post, but one said that Noah had dinosaurs (eggs) on the ark. A Random Phrase suggested that the Watchers were fallen resurrected celestial beings, if I understood her correctly and so nothing out of the ordinary to mate with earth women. I think she doesn't think this is where the giants came from.

It still is not clear to me who the Watchers were, except Sons of God. Apparently, the flood killed all of the giants. Except some were bound until the last days? They were giants, but called something else?

Now that a decade has gone by since this was discussed, I wonder if someone might clarify a few of these points. And do we no longer have Watchers?

Mostly what I learned from reading this thread is that I don't know anything about it.

[Niemand]

Perhaps the greys do not have bodies of flesh and bone but have forms made from some other substance that resembles human flesh, and their spirits are able to manipulate this substance to fool us into thinking they have real bodies like ours.

The animal mutilations may be to source soft material to bulld temporary meat suits from.

[Fred]

Perhaps the greys do not have bodies of flesh and bone but have forms made from some other substance that resembles human flesh, and their spirits are able to manipulate this substance to fool us into thinking they have real bodies like ours.

The animal mutilations may be to source soft material to bulld temporary meat suits from.

A guy now dead, told me that the greys have no digestive tracts and feed through the skin on their arms, absorbing like a patch. He said that the cattle mutilations only take the blood and genitalia, leaving not a drop of blood on the ground. No footprints or sign of a struggle. This blood and genitalia cocktail is placed in a tank that the greys place their arms in to feed.

Whether or not any of that is true, I have no idea. But it does appear that the US government aided them in the mutilations. And covered for them.

[Niemand]

Think about it.

Anytime someone is abducted by "Space Aliens" they talk about being deathly afraid, powerless to do anything, and are subject to bodily invasions, probes and penetrations.

These entities are of darkness and bring no love or light to those that they abduct.
The actions of these "Space Aliens" parallel or mirror SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse).

You have preset the question by saying abductors are bad. Well, of course they are. But this doesn't address the other group, contactees, i.e. those who claim they have had positive experiences with such entities. It also doesn't cover witnesses who don't interact with them.

3) At some point within the next 7 to 10 years, these "aliens" will be introduced to the world as a benevolent race of "watchers" -- likely sold to the world as the Ascendent Masters that have been communicating with and inspiring New Age followers. Books like "Communion" serve to prepare the minds of the masses for this introduction.

That's about all I have to say on the matter. If anyone wishes to rebut, feel free, but I apologize in advance for not having any additional free time to respond.

Well, 7-10 years have passed since this post! They're still saying it's around the corner. Maybe it is.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

"Are Space Aliens actually Demons?"

Yes.

[Niemand]

Aliens can't possibly be demons, because Demons are the 1/3 of the hosts of heaven that were cast out of heaven before the world was made and are therefore non-coporeal.

If you manage to get past that issue, then I would be willing to entertain this hypothesis... at least to the degree that my skepticism for the existence of aliens, the NWO, and conspiracy theories in general would allow.

Most interactions people have with such entities tend to be non-physical, i.e. either seeing them or communicating with them.

[Ymarsakar]

Are humansnactually just demonicbspace aliens? Partially yes

[markharr]

We haven't even set foot on our closest neighbor planet and are on the verge of destroying ourselves through nuclear war or AI. Why wouldn't it be the same for other planets with 'intelligent' life?