Year later...haven't seen anything on it...of course I've seen about 10 minutes worth of TV in the last year so maybe I missed it. Of course quick google and it appears its out and showing locally (even in this remote neck of the woods). Anyone seen it? The trailer doesn't quite fit my memory banks...coachmarc wrote:Thanks, Libertas and OI. CTS and Legion, Hollywood has mulled over making a movie for over a decade. I think they've finally got it right this time. I know a year is so far away. I really look forward to it. I also believe they've found the right solution for the zero gravity tactics employed by Ender in the war games.
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I saw it. Well done, though impossible to fit the entire book in under two hours.
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It's been exactly five months since my last entry. This is a topic, which has been on my mind a lot. It feels good to finish this one. #:-s
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Thank you, brother. I hope you are doing well.rewcox wrote:Nice!marc wrote:If thou wilt be perfect...
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I'm alive, no nukes yet...marc wrote:Thank you, brother. I hope you are doing well.rewcox wrote:Nice!marc wrote:If thou wilt be perfect...
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Thank you for writing this, marc. The things you wrote about helping the homeless helped confirm some thoughts I've been having as I've been trying to help a woman I've met in similar circumstances. I'm pretty sure God told me to help her, but has not told me how. I think He's leaving that for me to figure out.
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I have come to learn to let it happen naturally. Either the Lord shows you how or the solution will present itself and your love will be the means to accomplish it.h_p wrote: ↑May 28th, 2017, 10:34 pmThank you for writing this, marc. The things you wrote about helping the homeless helped confirm some thoughts I've been having as I've been trying to help a woman I've met in similar circumstances. I'm pretty sure God told me to help her, but has not told me how. I think He's leaving that for me to figure out.
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You were right, marc. I found out today what I was supposed to do. When I met her today, she said she'd found a place to live, and good lead on a job, but couldn't get the job until she had an address, and couldn't get the apartment until she got some money. We fed her dinner and paid her first two months rent. It was one of the easiest gifts I've ever given. She's off the street now, and will be sleeping in a bed tonight for the first time in I don't even want to think how long.marc wrote: ↑May 29th, 2017, 12:04 amI have come to learn to let it happen naturally. Either the Lord shows you how or the solution will present itself and your love will be the means to accomplish it.h_p wrote: ↑May 28th, 2017, 10:34 pm Thank you for writing this, marc. The things you wrote about helping the homeless helped confirm some thoughts I've been having as I've been trying to help a woman I've met in similar circumstances. I'm pretty sure God told me to help her, but has not told me how. I think He's leaving that for me to figure out.
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That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing your experience with me, h_p. My heart swells with joy to hear it.
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I've been working on it - quite a long blog entry, well worth reading, but I'm not done yet!
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Finished. Very beautiful testimony, Marc. I loved what you included from Jacob 5, truly one of the beautiful chapters of the Book of Mormon.
I feel such a kinship for you and others on this forum. Thank you again for that testimony, I feel I know your heart and I don;t believe you share such things to attract a following or to exalt yourself.
I do agree with you on the importance of equality and no one exalting themselves, but I'm not sure I agree with you on every detail. There are requirements to be part of such a community. I think "the poor" that we are to share with is not just anyone who wants what we have, and most certainly not those who seek to take and redistribute by government force. I believe those poor also need to sacrifice their all - their time, talents, and all else to the building of Zion. It would be an interesting discussion to have with you if you disagree.
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I feel such a kinship for you and others on this forum. Thank you again for that testimony, I feel I know your heart and I don;t believe you share such things to attract a following or to exalt yourself.
I do agree with you on the importance of equality and no one exalting themselves, but I'm not sure I agree with you on every detail. There are requirements to be part of such a community. I think "the poor" that we are to share with is not just anyone who wants what we have, and most certainly not those who seek to take and redistribute by government force. I believe those poor also need to sacrifice their all - their time, talents, and all else to the building of Zion. It would be an interesting discussion to have with you if you disagree.
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I'd be happy to discuss anything. I don't know everything and am happy to learn from you. As for requirements, I think they can be distilled to the two greatest commandments, which Jesus gave, and then expounded upon in His sermon on the mount. What should prevail is freedom to choose, freedom to sacrifice, but most importantly freedom from compulsion, coercion, etc. (D&C 121). The poor are typically compelled to be humble, but like the rest of us, must be willing to offer a broken heart and contrite spirit, just like the poor of the Zoramites who were gladly taken in by the Anti-Nephi-Lehis at Jershon. The only way such a society ever works (Zion) is where all become one of their own free will. And that happens not because of correlation or compulsion, but because each person willingly sacrificed their all to become one. If one is compelled, then it isn't a sacrifice born of a broken heart and a contrite spirit. If the law of the gospel isn't written in one's heart, then one has failed to become equal with the others who do, regardless of being rich or poor.
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Hey Marc!
Mostly I feel that too many interpret the "all things in common" and all equal as, essentially socialism. Of course socialism isn't truly equal, but I feel that many read the scriptures on equality and they envision a socialist ideal where conspiring men don't mess it up.
I think that there is a lot more to it than that. This isn;t inspiration per se, but more of an exercise I have gone thru. If all of the saints decided to sacrifice their all to the poor and it was distributed worldwide, we *might* feed the poor for a day. The next day all of our possessions would be gone and the poor would be as poor as they were two days prior, and we would have added ourselves to their number.
My feeling is that most in the world are poor, not to disability but simply lack of education and lack of opportunity. And honestly, in today's world I have no more clue how to solve that problem than the next guy.
Here are my thoughts on living as one, all equal.
All must be welcome to participate, but they must be active participants, not passive recipients. Sacred covenants of sacrifice.
There is a great beauty to this, I think. There should be no job that is "beneath someone's dignity" - if a job needs to be done, and a person is capable of doing it, they should do it, gladly. There should be no idle hands, no retirement in old age to live in comfort from the labors of others. I would say that if one wants to retire, they need to provide for their own retirement, but in a society that has all things in common, how can one provide for one's own retirement? One answer is that everyone continues to be useful and productive until the luncheon of their own funeral. Another answer is that things are not had in common, there is private property but it si more equitably distributed. And that presents its own problems, as history shows us that when men are left in charge to redistribute things equally, some people are always more equal than others (specifically, those doing the redistribution.) Any thoughts on that?
In short, as I am sure you gathered, my biggest issue with all being equal is that no one should be participating looking for an easy means to provide for themselves. Somehow selfishness needs to be overcome, but not ONLY the selfishness of the wealthy, but also the selfishness of those who covet and desire food, clothing and shelter without working for it. To address the former without addressing the latter is to create a system that has already proven itself a failure numerous times.
What do you think? A plan cannot function on warm fuzzies, and for every person that is a net "beneficiary", others must over-produce to provide that benefit. And for the FEW who are literally incapable of doing any productive work, of course they should be admitted and cared for - and pitied. What a sad life to be literally incapable of producing anything or serving others in any capacity.
I hope I have kind of outlined my concerns/thoughts - I'd love to hear yours or anyone else's thoughts. Certainly charity is going to be central to such a proposition - overlooking each others faults and rooting judgement out of our own breast is going to be important. But it also need to logistically work. I know the Lord would pour out blessings on everyone who attempted to make this happen.
Mostly I feel that too many interpret the "all things in common" and all equal as, essentially socialism. Of course socialism isn't truly equal, but I feel that many read the scriptures on equality and they envision a socialist ideal where conspiring men don't mess it up.
I think that there is a lot more to it than that. This isn;t inspiration per se, but more of an exercise I have gone thru. If all of the saints decided to sacrifice their all to the poor and it was distributed worldwide, we *might* feed the poor for a day. The next day all of our possessions would be gone and the poor would be as poor as they were two days prior, and we would have added ourselves to their number.
My feeling is that most in the world are poor, not to disability but simply lack of education and lack of opportunity. And honestly, in today's world I have no more clue how to solve that problem than the next guy.
Here are my thoughts on living as one, all equal.
All must be welcome to participate, but they must be active participants, not passive recipients. Sacred covenants of sacrifice.
There is a great beauty to this, I think. There should be no job that is "beneath someone's dignity" - if a job needs to be done, and a person is capable of doing it, they should do it, gladly. There should be no idle hands, no retirement in old age to live in comfort from the labors of others. I would say that if one wants to retire, they need to provide for their own retirement, but in a society that has all things in common, how can one provide for one's own retirement? One answer is that everyone continues to be useful and productive until the luncheon of their own funeral. Another answer is that things are not had in common, there is private property but it si more equitably distributed. And that presents its own problems, as history shows us that when men are left in charge to redistribute things equally, some people are always more equal than others (specifically, those doing the redistribution.) Any thoughts on that?
In short, as I am sure you gathered, my biggest issue with all being equal is that no one should be participating looking for an easy means to provide for themselves. Somehow selfishness needs to be overcome, but not ONLY the selfishness of the wealthy, but also the selfishness of those who covet and desire food, clothing and shelter without working for it. To address the former without addressing the latter is to create a system that has already proven itself a failure numerous times.
What do you think? A plan cannot function on warm fuzzies, and for every person that is a net "beneficiary", others must over-produce to provide that benefit. And for the FEW who are literally incapable of doing any productive work, of course they should be admitted and cared for - and pitied. What a sad life to be literally incapable of producing anything or serving others in any capacity.
I hope I have kind of outlined my concerns/thoughts - I'd love to hear yours or anyone else's thoughts. Certainly charity is going to be central to such a proposition - overlooking each others faults and rooting judgement out of our own breast is going to be important. But it also need to logistically work. I know the Lord would pour out blessings on everyone who attempted to make this happen.
