UFO? Spiral over Norway today. Bizarre I admit.

[BroJones]

Just saw it on MSNBC news (which I RARELY watch btw), found it on video here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#34353245

Quite a sight. Looking for the TRUTH about such objects also... And about global warming (which the evidence tells me is NOT just CO2). I'm a Truther.

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

Wow! That's something else. Hey, maybe it's Obama's aura coming to get his peace prize? Looks very much like a projection from the cone behind it.

[mchlwise]

I'm going with a "project bluebeam" test.

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9815

[buffalo_girl]

Doesn't Norway have a HAARP facility? I'll try to find out where it is.

Here is an interesting read in regard to European "weather balls" and weather manipulation written a couple of years ago:

http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?t=691

and another more recent blog:

http://www.whale.to/b/european_weather_balls.html

In November of 2003 we had a green spiral thingy appear directly over our farmhouse around 10:30 PM. It was like being inside a neon tube teepee. It didn't spin around; it just persisted for awhile. Oddly, there was a small earthquake about 120 miles due south of us in the plains of South Dakota at the same time we were watching this thing.

I think the 'weather merchants' are drumming up business and playing games with their laser toys.

[buffalo_girl]

Could this have anything to do with the spinning greenish spiral?

http://www.eiscat3d.se/

[gruden]

Just saw it on MSNBC news (which I RARELY watch btw), found it on video here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#34353245

Quite a sight. Looking for the TRUTH about such objects also... And about global warming (which the evidence tells me is NOT just CO2). I'm a Truther.

Dr. Jones, have you ever read The Hunt for Zero Point Gravity? Some interesting truth tidbits in there, especially for physics. I've always thought Roswell was a double-psyop.

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union.

This is from Nick Begich's site:
http://www.haarp.net/

European Incoherent SCATter Radar Site (EISCAT),

a premier world class ionospheric heating

research facility located in northern Norway

near Troms. *

[BroJones]

Intriguing comments -- I will have to check them out.
Meanwhile, if it was a comet, it would show up for a considerable time, several nights likely -- BUT no, it was gone within minutes.

" It could be UFO or a Russian missile. Norway's astronomer, Knut Jorgen Roed Odegaard, said he had never seen anything like the spiral before."

http://videonewsroom.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -what.html

[kathyn]

It's a beautiful spiral but I can't imagine what it is. Could it be a new high-tech fireworks display? (Not likely, I know, but it is intriguing.)

[buffalo_girl]

European Incoherent SCATter Radar Site (EISCAT),

a premier world class ionospheric heating

research facility located in northern Norway

near Troms. *

Yep!

But, "NO!", it's the Russians.

Anyway, all should go to the Daily Mail article and read the posts. They are hilarious and who of us doesn't need a good laugh? Here are a couple of great comments:

By the way, there's no reason to assume that the green beam shone from the spiral towards the earth.
It seemed pretty obvious to me that it was the other way round.
Don't know why I'm wasting my energy on this.
I'll stop now.
- Rik Hardy, Reykjavik, Iceland, 9/12/2009 19:47

Relax. It's just the Messiah coming to pick up his "Peace Prize".
- Dawn J. Benko, Montague, NJ--U.S.A., 9/12/2009 19:46

Clearly this is the halo that follows Obama's teleprompter where ever it goes.
- BobB, Fresno, USA, 9/12/2009 20:25

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0ZFqDoeCK

[Cowell]

This may be your answer: http://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... wer#p64716

[buffalo_girl]

Well, that's not nearly as funny as the 350 plus explanations (comments) left at the Daily Mail.

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

It had the greatest similarity with a missile launch gone bad. Often missiles go into a death spiral. Of course this was moving in one direction and spiraling in another until the light went out apparently with an explosion (that I presume was heard)?

There was a guy that worked with Xerox and took lasers and would "raster" the beams and put on laser shows. Whatever it was, I wouldn't mind one for Christmas

[nvr]

Someone on Digg mentioned it could be a Birkeland Current structure (or a simulation of one - why??)
I just thought I'd share what I read to see what others think of this as well. Certainly some interesting reading tonight.
I ended up spending a few hours reading about the 'electric universe' theory which goes into Birkeland Currents. see here: http://www.holoscience.com/synopsis.php?page=1
This theory does away with the hit and miss conventional physics explaination of how the universe is held together and explains it using laboratory scalable modeling of plasma and electromagnetism. It explains the atom with the idea of electrostatic resonance between electrons and protons (explaining that electrons move at faster than speed of light). The question of whether magnetic force is faster than the speed of light is explained as well. After a few hours, it does seem to make some sense when you put it into conext of history and consider the simplification of physics (the simplest explanation is supposed to be the correct one)
If the electric universe theory is true, it would be a unifying theory, though - a pretty big feat to have not noticed it by now. Dr. Jones, ever heard of this stuff?

I was starting to get convinced and looked up any historical precidents for this theory. A few researchers have looked at past civilizations to see if it is reflected in their knowledge. Then I found this post on yahoo answers: http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 732AAL5Nqc

(Answer:) ...It appears that the Ancients possessed knowledge of what I call the “Sirian-Solar Reconvergence”, where recurrently every 12,000 years our Solar System and the Sirius Binary return to the path around the galactic center that they were mutually torn apart from when Sirius B, our “paternal star” reached the end of its helium-burning Red Giant phase and exploded into a planetary nebula that created the celestial dynamics that split our former tertiary system (Osirian Trinary Stellar System) in half.

I'm not going to lie, that kind of gave me some anxiety about the future.
Hopefully this guy is way off and is just trying to sell a book or something. Otherwise, I suppose I'll accept his Revelations-literal interpretation of the Earth's future and just try to keep myself squeaky-clean righteous in the meantime!

[MasterOfNone]

Athony E. Larson (who wrote the prophecy trilogy) talks about Birkeland currents and the whole idea of plasma theory on his site:

http://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008 ... asmas.html

[Col. Flagg]

It had the greatest similarity with a missile launch gone bad. Often missiles go into a death spiral. Of course this was moving in one direction and spiraling in another until the light went out apparently with an explosion (that I presume was heard)?

There was a guy that worked with Xerox and took lasers and would "raster" the beams and put on laser shows. Whatever it was, I wouldn't mind one for Christmas

I was going to post the same thing SM&P, but you beat me to it. It was most likely a Russian missile test gone bad. They are known to test missiles over the Barents Sea, although, they have denied it (which means it probably was). There is always a scientific explanation to things like this (unless the Lord is involved, then all bets are off).

[ready2prepare]

CONFIRMED: The Russian Defense Ministry has confirmed the
launch and subsequent failure of a submarine-based missile.
See BBC Report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8405481.stm

Best Regards,
Sharon (Helping people get prepared) in Mississippi

[Toto]

And about global warming (which the evidence tells me is NOT just CO2). I'm a Truther.

You might consider investigating the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine Doc, http://www.oism.org/ (I have been thinking about getting the Robinson Curriculum http://www.oism.org/s32p28.htm for myself after abandoning just about everything I learned in the Public Fools System.)

I didn't see your signature on the Global Warming Petition list of signers in Utah. You're not alone in you thinking.

Global Warming Petition:

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

This petition has been signed by over 31,000 American scientists.
31,486 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/

I’ve known about this global warming scam for ten years. Actually, it was the brainchild of Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy our industrial base. It has been largely successful, and in Copenhagen they are feverously trying to put the last nail in the coffin.

I say if and when man can noticeably increase free-and-clean solar energy via global warming, bring him on to do the job! Bring him on to cut the world’s dependence on burning polluting fossil fuels. Yes, mounting smog pollution in non-capitalist, totalitarian-socialist countries is causing increasingly lethal health problems. Competitive free enterprise, science, and capitalism are required to eliminate genuine pollution-and-health problems.

[truthseeds]

Wow, so if it's a failed rocket test, did they have the same plasma 'rocket' reaction back in '88?

The first couple of minutes are interesting...
China Lights Spiral that occurred 20 years before Norway Lights Spiral:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI7a5OmUq0U

The Chinese footage in the link is actually describing a video recording of the spiral light back in 20 years ago in 1988, also near the Russian border. It appeared on the sky for 5 consecutive days. See one of the poster's comment for the same video in Youtube.

this phenomena appeared in 1988 and continued for 5 days. and this vedio is publicsed by Chinese Meterologic Bureau. at first they are strict confidential. in 1988 soviet union was close to collapse so some Chinese witness doubt they were Russian missile,or russia tried to destruct their weapon.but the reporter denied. more interesting things is in this vedio,the light first rotate in clockwise then change into anti clockwise. and the location is very close to Russian border

And it happened again!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFLH8GzQh4

[gruden]

I'm with ya, truthseeds. Give 'em any old answer and it satisfies people. People will take a pat answer any old day rather than face the notion some really weird stuff is going on in the world. We like our reality ordinary and predictable.

[mchlwise]

CONFIRMED: The Russian Defense Ministry has confirmed the
launch and subsequent failure of a submarine-based missile.
See BBC Report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8405481.stm

THIS is a failed missile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z-3fjg4 ... r_embedded

The Norway spiral was FAR too stationary and the rings too perfectly spaced for it to be a failed missle launch.

The fact that Russia is officially acknowledging something which it clearly was not makes this all the more intriguing.

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

I tend to agree and here's why. In order for the missile to progress forward to that point required a corkscrew rotation. It then would have had to lose the forward component and spin in place. It is certainly possible, but highly improbable. If that were the case it would have been slowing appreciably the whole time (in terms of forward motion), also the loss in forward thrust and increased horizontal vector would have sped up it's horizontal rotation speeding up the rotation. Unless it was controllable which throws the whole missile launch gone bad thing out.

[gruden]

Moreover, apparently that hazy blue line points back to a base that's the Russian equivalent of HAARP. I need to find the name, but apparently it's in Northern Russia.

Looking at this picture, no way that's a missile, at least not anything remotely connected to anything conventional. Also, some think this was timed for the climate meeting to send some countries a message. Who knows?

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http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-Message.htm

[ready2prepare]

Is it another "coincidence" that, just over the hill from Tromso,
lies a high-tech Norwegian "HAARP antenna farm" -- the
EISCAT Ramfjordmoen facility (below) -- specifically designed
to broadcast powerful beams of microwave energy high into
space ... thereby also creating blatant HD/torsion side-effects
in the Earth's highly-electrified upper "plasma" atmosphere
(ionosphere)? The facility is officially supported by Norway,
Sweden, Finland, Japan ... China ... the United Kingdom ...
and Germany.

Fascinating...

Norway Torsion Effect

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Best Regards,
Sharon (Helping people get prepared) in Mississippi

[2BFree]

Another interesting "co-incident" is the LHC was tested the same day at CERN. May be it was the "portal" that they said was to open when they turn that thing on.