Cop Attacks, Kidnaps Nurse for Refusing to Break the Law for Him & Warrantlessly Draw Blood

[buffalo_girl]

Here's the full 30 minute footage from Officer Payne's body camera. At around 23 minutes - after Nurse Wubbles is handcuffed and in the unmarked vehicle - another officer takes the time to talk her into 'doing her job to follow the Law'. I think this idiot needs to lose his job, too!

https://youtu.be/9Piuenvb-Zg

What an arrogant, stupid attitude! He even uses the "F bomb" in his attempt to convince her of his right to the patient's blood. "I've done this for 22 f----ing years! I know what the law is when it comes to search and seizure!" at 25:26. Officer Payne wanders around the vehicle just prior to that exchange.

People this arrogant and ignorant should NOT be allowed to carry guns.

[buffalo_girl]

https://youtu.be/9Piuenvb-Zg

Here's the full 30 minute footage from Officer Payne's body camera. At around 23 minutes another officer takes the time to harass Nurse Wubble while handcuffed in an unmarked vehicle.

Officer Payne wanders around the vehicle when this exchange is occurring. Watch the other officer do his best to intimidate her - even using the "f bomb" as a convincer.

[Hidingbehindmyhandle]

https://youtu.be/9Piuenvb-Zg

Here's the full 30 minute footage from Officer Payne's body camera. At around 23 minutes another officer takes the time to harass Nurse Wubble while handcuffed in an unmarked vehicle.

Officer Payne wanders around the vehicle when this exchange is occurring. Watch the other officer do his best to intimidate her - even using the "f bomb" as a convincer.

Payne noticed the camera and moved to get out of view.

[Elizabeth]

This matter should have been handled privately by the Utah Police Authorities. Releasing the video to the world has only encouraged and aided those who would have a lawless society.

[lundbaek]

I think a timely exposure helps prevent a cover-up.

[SmallFarm]

This matter should have been handled privately by the Utah Police Authorities. Releasing the video to the world has only encouraged and aided those who would have a lawless society.

Nope. It has only discouraged cops from behaving lawlessly.

[Teancum]

According to scripture, everyone's deed will be shouted from the housetops, and all things known. I think that is one of the main factors that make Zion such a terrible place for the wicked. They won't want their dirty laundry to be known. So, I say we had better get used to and expect the release of information such as this video.

I also feel that any darkness unchecked just grows and becomes darker, whether individually or from an institution such as LEOs and others. So its is best to encourage the public's vigilance whenever we can.

[buffalo_girl]

Payne noticed the camera and moved to get out of view.

I'm not sure what camera you mean.

Payne was carrying the camera pinned to his shoulder that entire 30 minutes. I got the feeling he was strutting around feeling justified while the other cop was turning the thumb screws on Nurse Wubble. Good grief, he goes to the back car door opposite to take a swig of his Big Gulp!

The other cop is also an arrogant twit. People like these two have no business carrying guns in the name of Public Safety.

This matter should have been handled privately by the Utah Police Authorities. Releasing the video to the world has only encouraged and aided those who would have a lawless society.

The 'lawlessness' in this case is on the part of Utah Police. Apparently, KNOWING the Law is NOT a requisite subject for their training or they simply don't care. In either case, these arrogant men with guns are DANGEROUS to law abiding citizens and NEED to be exposed.

The 'superior' officer telling Nurse Wubble, "I know the law when it comes to search and seizure", reveals how ignorant he is.

Drawing blood from an unconscious man in Emergency Care - who was the VICTIM of a crash into his vehicle - has NOTHING to do with "search and seizure".

I am NOT a child.

Meili quotes me from a thread somewhere in this forum. I had forgotten having put it 'on paper', but that quote stands for a lifetime of learning what Authority is NOT.

"I do respect 'authority' - when it respects me. Otherwise it is not 'authority'; it is tyranny."
~buffalo_girl

Perhaps Brother Joseph expressed it better a scant five years prior to his assassination:

Doctrine & Covenants 121
39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.

[larsenb]

. . . . . The officer said he was working the night it happened, but at was in a different part of the hospital. He agrees the Salt Lake “police officer was out of control” and did not act appropriately, but says the security officers just didn’t have the training needed to handle the situation.

“At that time we didn’t know. We weren’t made aware of what the blood draw policy was for law enforcement,” he said. “I hope that [nurse Wubbles] can understand that we are imperfect people doing the best we can with the knowledge that we have currently,” he said.

And then there is common sense . . . the ability to realistically assess a real-time situation as it is happening. Hearing what nurse Wubbles was telling Payne and how he was acting, and doing nothing shows the absence of common sense in the case of the U. of U. officers, just standing there gawking. Probably fueled by their fear of 'real police authority'.

[freedomforall]

Law enforcement throughout our country are supposed to protect and serve, not harass and collect. They all took an oath to the Constitution, promising to protect, not only the Constitutional rights of the populace, but the rights and privileges under that document that affords us the freedoms we have as a sovereign people.
Cops, in general, do not know the Constitution and many of them don't care about that document. They do not know the laws they are sworn to protect.

Here is a fine example of cops being total ignorant, smug and mindless tyrants.

[Hidingbehindmyhandle]

Payne noticed the camera and moved to get out of view.

I'm not sure what camera you mean.

Payne was carrying the camera pinned to his shoulder that entire 30 minutes. I got the feeling he was strutting around feeling justified while the other cop was turning the thumb screws on Nurse Wubble. Good grief, he goes to the back car door opposite to take a swig of his Big Gulp!

The other cop is also an arrogant twit. People like these two have no business carrying guns in the name of Public Safety.

This matter should have been handled privately by the Utah Police Authorities. Releasing the video to the world has only encouraged and aided those who would have a lawless society.

The 'lawlessness' in this case is on the part of Utah Police. Apparently, KNOWING the Law is NOT a requisite subject for their training or they simply don't care. In either case, these arrogant men with guns are DANGEROUS to law abiding citizens and NEED to be exposed.

The 'superior' officer telling Nurse Wubble, "I know the law when it comes to search and seizure", reveals how ignorant he is.

Drawing blood from an unconscious man in Emergency Care - who was the VICTIM of a crash into his vehicle - has NOTHING to do with "search and seizure".

I am NOT a child.

Meili quotes me from a thread somewhere in this forum. I had forgotten having put it 'on paper', but that quote stands for a lifetime of learning what Authority is NOT.

"I do respect 'authority' - when it respects me. Otherwise it is not 'authority'; it is tyranny."
~buffalo_girl

Perhaps Brother Joseph expressed it better a scant five years prior to his assassination:

Doctrine & Covenants 121
39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.

In the video of Nurse Wubbels in the car and the supervisor is brow beating her, Payne noticed the camera and moved around the front of the car to get out of the view of the camera.

[buffalo_girl]

SLC police body cam footage shows officers discussing nurse confrontation, how to move forward

Isn't that simply amazing?! The 'threat of arrest' - albeit without cause - was to intimidate Nurse Wubbel into giving them what they wanted.

Watch commander Lt. James Tracy wasn't expecting that conversation to be recorded. He needs to be fired, too!

[Hidingbehindmyhandle]

SLC police body cam footage shows officers discussing nurse confrontation, how to move forward

Isn't that simply amazing?! The 'threat of arrest' - albeit without cause - was to intimidate Nurse Wubbel into giving them what they wanted.

Watch commander Lt. James Tracy wasn't expecting that conversation to be recorded. He needs to be fired, too!

And those who trained them to behave this way.
And management that authorized such training.

This is not surface stuff, it goes to the heart of what LEOs are today.

[buffalo_girl]

This is not surface stuff, it goes to the heart of what LEOs are today.

Here in North Dakota, we witnessed the full extent of the easy corruption of local LEO's into full collusion with 'hardcore' mercenaries trained in counter-intelligence, Psyop military skills during 2016's resistance to the Dakota Access Pipeline - which actually extended from here into many other states!

Another level of corruption is revealed when locally elected and assigned LEO's provide strong arm for private business against the very people paying the taxes and owning the land rights! It wasn't only Indians who were arrested and mistreated over eminent domain.

Eminent domain was never intended to give private business interests the right to condemn privately owned property. Private business interests should NOT be able to hire community law enforcement to provide enforcement against individuals who are actually being trespassed upon by said business. Energy Transfer Partners has done and continues to do just that!

http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Iowa ... 58841.html

[Hidingbehindmyhandle]

This is not surface stuff, it goes to the heart of what LEOs are today.

Here in North Dakota, we witnessed the full extent of the easy corruption of local LEO's into full collusion with 'hardcore' mercenaries trained in counter-intelligence, Psyop military skills during 2016's resistance to the Dakota Access Pipeline - which actually extended from here into many other states!

Another level of corruption is revealed when locally elected and assigned LEO's provide strong arm for private business against the very people paying the taxes and owning the land rights! It wasn't only Indians who were arrested and mistreated over eminent domain.

Eminent domain was never intended to give private business interests the right to condemn privately owned property. Private business interests should NOT be able to hire community law enforcement to provide enforcement against individuals who are actually being trespassed upon by said business. Energy Transfer Partners has done and continues to do just that!

http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Iowa ... 58841.html

Yes, the militarization of police puts them in direct opposition of our rights.
This is by design. My opinion, greatest national threat.

[buffalo_girl]

Here's a good analysis of the Nurse Wubbel's arrest from various body cam recordings. The guy doing the compilation & analysis uses a few unnecessary descriptive terms, but he covers the issue of moral responsibility on the part of everyone concerned. (I still don't know how to post the actual video.)

https://youtu.be/8Wiyco6U7pU[

[Joel]

Salt Lake police fire detective involved in arrest of U of U nurse Wubbles


Salt Lake City — (KUTV) Salt Lake City police confirmed that the detective of a controversial arrest of a nurse at the University of Utah hospital has been fired.

An internal investigation concluded last month, but the decision to fire Detective Jeff Payne and demote Lt. James Tracy, also involved, became clear Tuesday. Payne arrested nurse Alex Wubbels who would not allow Payne to draw blood from an unconscious patient.

An appeal was already underway Tuesday.

“We are done, we are done, you are under arrest,” is what Payne said on his body camera video on July 26.

Video of the incident was given to the news media by attorney Karra Porter during a press conference with nurse Wubbels on Sept 2. She can be heard in the video screaming as she’s being hauled away:

You’re assaulting me stop! I’ve done nothing wrong! This is crazy! This is crazy

Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office and Unified Police launched an independent criminal investigation of the arrest at the center of a now-viral video from the University of Utah ER.

Payne came to the hospital to get a blood sample from a victim in a fatal car crash in Cache County that happened earlier in the day. Wubbels would not allow him to get that sample saying he did not meet one of the three requirements for drawing blood. He didn’t have a warrant, the patient didn’t give consent and the patient was not under arrest.

Wubbels had the backing of her supervisors and others in the hospital. One of them was on the phone with her and could be heard telling Payne: “Sir you are making a huge mistake right now”

Payne wouldn't take no for an answer, and that is when the arrest was made.

News of the arrest, including body-cam footage from police and an exclusive KUTV interview with Wubbels spread nationwide.

[Joel]

Nurse Settles over Rough Arrest Caught on Video

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A Utah nurse who was arrested for refusing to let a police officer draw blood from an unconscious patient said Tuesday that she was settling with Salt Lake City and the university that runs the hospital for $500,000.

Nurse Alex Wubbels and her lawyer, Karra Porter, announced the move nearly two months after they released police body-camera video showing Detective Jeff Payne handcuffing Wubbels. The footage drew widespread attention online amid the ongoing national conversation about police use of force.

The settlement covers all possible defendants in a lawsuit, including individual police officers and hospital security officers, and the payout will be divided among the city and the University of Utah.

Wubbel was following hospital policy when she told Payne he needed a warrant or the consent of the patient to draw blood after a July 26 car crash. The patient was not under arrest or suspected of wrongdoing.

Payne had neither. He eventually dragged Wubbels outside and handcuffed her as she screamed that she had done nothing wrong.

She was released without being charged but has said the incident left her feeling terrified and bullied. In a call for changes, Wubbel and her lawyer released the video they had obtained through a public records request.

Salt Lake City Police Chief Mike Brown has since apologized and fired Payne after an internal investigation found he violated department policies.

Brown said in a disciplinary letter that he was “deeply troubled” by Payne’s conduct, which he said brought “significant disrepute” on the department.

Payne is appealing that decision, saying the firing was an unfair reaction to the negative publicity.

The patient was an off-duty Idaho reserve police officer driving a semitrailer when he was hit by a man fleeing police in a pickup truck. He later died of his injuries.

Lt. James Tracy, a police supervisor who ordered the arrest of the nurse, was demoted to officer and also is appealing. He said he suggested Payne consider handcuffing the nurse and that his superiors had never informed him of the hospital’s blood-draw policy, according to appeal documents.

[lundbaek]

Huh ? " the payout will be divided among the city and the University of Utah." ? Does not Nurse Wubbel get at least some of the payout ?

[Joel]

She gets all of the pay out, the city and the University of Utah are going to pay her. This article makes it more clear http://fox13now.com/2017/10/31/nurse-al ... ettlement/

[Joel]

I do like what she wants to do with part of her settlement:

Wubbels said she plans to use a portion of the settlement toward a new initiative to help others pay for access to police body camera video clips.

“Any person in the State of Utah who wishes to obtain body cam footage of an incident involving them will be able to do so, no charge to them. Our law firm, Christensen & Jensen, will provide any legal services necessary to accomplish that,” Porter said. “Thanks to Alex, there will be more transparency.”

[Joel]

On that note I like this company's goal of getting more body cams in people's hands:

looks like they were fully funded and will be shipping next year https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/clou ... security#/

[buffalo_girl]

The patient, William Gray, she defended died two months after the crash. How tragic!

[Elizabeth]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-01/u ... st/9107170

“...she is settling with Salt Lake City and the university that runs the hospital for $653,000."

[buffalo_girl]

I have to wonder about the police chase aspect to this tragedy. It may or may not have been a 'high speed' chase, but several squad cars were in pursuit of the pickup driving erratically. When the pickup crossed into oncoming traffic it hit the semi being driven by William Gray who was critically burned.