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Elizabeth wrote::(

None that I am aware of.
Seems like nothing has come of the investigation of the FBI over the killing of Finicum. Are the participants just like the Roman soldiers that tossed the Lord's robe around and laughed about killing Jesus? Did Finicum die for nothing?
Does the government cheer at their victory, and true Americans run in fear?

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Sad indeed... and the Bundys continue to suffer in prison, yet rioters who smash and destroy in the USA seemingly are allowed to do so.
freedomforall wrote: Seems like nothing has come of the investigation of the FBI over the killing of Finicum. Are the participants just like the Roman soldiers that tossed the Lord's robe around and laughed about killing Jesus? Did Finicum die for nothing?
Does the government cheer at their victory, and true Americans run in fear?

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"Cliven Bundy case, in which numerous defendants' freedom and liberty itself is at stake, the defendants have claimed that the DC government has tampered with video evidence from the Bureau of Land Management in the case and is hiding that by not disclosing the discovery to the American people.
Guerilla Media Network reports:
Defendants in the case of United States vs Cliven Bundy et al.. are accusing the BLM [Bureau of Land Management] and the FBI of altering dashboard and body-cam video in an attempt to cover-up their aggressiveness during the 2014 protest that led to the arrest of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and 18 others.
Defendants are also accusing the FBI "infiltration team" who posed as a documentary film crew called Long Bow, of editing video at crucial moments to make defendants who gave interviews look guilty of crimes they did not commit.
On at least 5 different occasions the defendants in the case say that video used to gain their indictments and create the Governments narrative that has kept them all in jail pending trial, was clearly altered at crucial moments to hide what they believe would expose the BLM as the aggressors and not the "victims" as Prosecutor Steven Myhre contends.
We have found at least 5 different clear cases of evidence tampering and have only viewed 1/4 of the discovery that was recently released to us by the Prosecutors office say defendants, who have begun the process of creating a power point demonstration that will be viewed by defense attorneys on October 7, 2016.
On April 9th, 2014 a video was released by Guerrilla Media Network [Pete Santilli] that showed the brutal tazing of Cliven Bundy's Son, Ammon Bundy. During that protest there was also a vicious attack by a BLM agent on Margaret Houston, a 57 year old cancer survivor and Cliven Bundy's sister. It was not until Fox News picked up the video and aired it live the following morning on the program Fox and Friends, that people from across the Nation felt compelled to pack up and come to Bundy Ranch in protest of the aggressive attack on the family. While the defendants are not allowed to disclose what was said by BLM agents leading up to the attack on protestors, they allege that at least 5 seconds of audio recorded during the protest on April 9th, was altered by the BLM to cover-up what BLM agents actually said.
Defendants also stated, that BLM video shot during the protest on April 12th, 2014 – of protestors that accompanied Ammon Bundy to retrieve cattle Sheriff Douglas Gillespi said could be released, was again altered to omit some of what Daniel P. Love and other agents were communicating back and forth to one another.
One video, which was captured by the ranchers, we reported on previously of the BLM setting fires within a hundred yards of personal property and cattle. The video shows the burning of cattle and buildings, both of which are criminal.
Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore produced a short video to speak about the failure to disclose what the BLM actually said on both video and audio recordings regarding their thoughts of murdering innocent protesters and animals at the Bundy Ranch back in 2014.
Fiore mentioned some of the comments made by the BLM that were not altered, such as:
BLM joking about which peaceful protesters they were going to kill
BLM talking about which horse they would put down first
BLM joking about which human they were going to put down first
BLM joked about making Bunkerville bigger than Waco by a hundred times
Then there is footage from the BLM that has obviously been altered, in which several minutes of footage is missing (1 to 4 minutes). What is the purpose of the video if you are allowed to turn it off or edit it as you see fit? What good does that do?
Additionally, Fiore mentioned body cam and dash cam video evidence that is being kept from the American people where the BLM literally beat Dave Bundy and kidnapped him. This is all being withheld from the public.
Tell me something America, would you sit there and be entertained by it, like you are your politics? Or would you act and demand that the BLM agents involved, every member of the FBI, judges and anyone at the local level or at the federal level be immediately arrested and tried for their crimes?
Fiore then gave kudos to Sheriff Doug Gillespie and undersheriff Mr. Roberts, along with the Las Vegas Metro Police for standing alongside the Bundys and the protesters.
She then said that if you are part of a media outlet to get this information out to the public to email her at [email protected].
In closing, Deb Jordan adds, "We believe if the public could hear and see what the BLM was saying and doing for the duration of the protest, before and leading up to the BLM confronting the protestors by threatening lethal force, the narrative would go back to what it was initially about and that is that a Government agency was violating the civil rights of a rancher and his family and those of the people who came to protest the brutality of it."
"Magistrate Peggy Leen enforces an order that tells the public, you may scrutinize and repeat all of the bad stuff the defendants said on social media but you are not allowed to see and repeat all the bad stuff the BLM was doing and saying behind the scenes that led up to such a passionate protest by the defendants and other protestors," she concluded.
It's time to demand transparency in this case. If you are willing to do so, please contact the following and cite your demands that they open up the discovery to the public.

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Wikileaks Shows Hammond, Bundy, Malheur Minerals Sold by Clinton to Russia China – Judge Into Hedge Funds

This is a video of several excerpts of a whistleblower presentation given today on the steps of City Hall in Portland, OR. Laz, AKA Lazaro Ecenarro, and Shawna Cox presented documents laying out the ties of corruption between the Hammond, Bundy and Malheur lands and all levels of State and Federal agencies and agents. The entire presentation is an hour long, so here’s a few of the hot points. THIS is why they have come down so hard on the Hammonds and the Bundys and the other brave Americans standing and being persecuted for the rights of all of us.

New Wikileaks emails expand on the connections to the Clintons, Uranium 1 and Russia and China. Judge Anna Brown is shown to have relationships with investments that profit from the transactions related to the land grabs and sell offs in Oregon and the Western states.

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Toto wrote:Wikileaks Shows Hammond, Bundy, Malheur Minerals Sold by Clinton to Russia China – Judge Into Hedge Funds

This is a video of several excerpts of a whistleblower presentation given today on the steps of City Hall in Portland, OR. Laz, AKA Lazaro Ecenarro, and Shawna Cox presented documents laying out the ties of corruption between the Hammond, Bundy and Malheur lands and all levels of State and Federal agencies and agents. The entire presentation is an hour long, so here’s a few of the hot points. THIS is why they have come down so hard on the Hammonds and the Bundys and the other brave Americans standing and being persecuted for the rights of all of us.

New Wikileaks emails expand on the connections to the Clintons, Uranium 1 and Russia and China. Judge Anna Brown is shown to have relationships with investments that profit from the transactions related to the land grabs and sell offs in Oregon and the Western states.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 26020.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hope this helps.

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Good to see this coming to light. Americans stand up against this please. Lavoy did not die in vain.

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"A marathon trial for occupiers of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge has been taking place in Portland, Oregon, since mid-September, with seven of the 26 defendants currently being tried, including brothers Ammon and Ryan Bundy. But almost as much activity has been taking place on sidewalks outside the courthouse, as supporters parade, protest and cheer defendants as they enter and leave hearings.

Malheur Refuge defendants were arrested early this year for their armed occupation of the refuge in Harney County, Oregon, which is a federal property. Some were leaders or spokesmen, such as Ammon Bundy – and LeVoy Finnicum, who was killed by unidentified law enforcement agents. Other defendants claimed to be only visiting, or to be independent journalists, or were trapped there by the presence of federal and local police.

“Police State USA: How Orwell’s Nightmare Is Becoming Our Reality” chronicles how America has arrived at the point of being a de facto police state, and what led to an out-of-control government that increasingly ignores the Constitution. Order today!

This legal contest between the U.S. government and defendants is complex and multilayered, covering almost every aspect of the First and Second Amendments. Defendants accuse the Bureau of Land Management and other federal agencies of mistreatment, abuse of states’ rights and property laws, as well as personal vendettas against ranchers. Anger over perceived mistreatment of local ranchers Dwight Hammond, 74, and son Steven, 47, triggered the spontaneous decision to occupy the refuge after a meeting in nearby Burns, Oregon. The 41-day occupation drew global media, while leaders attempted to negotiate with the FBI and local officials tried to resolve their land disputes with the BLM.

Considering the scope and significance of these trials, they started off with little press or agitation. Both have picked up steam though, and accelerated quickly over the last few weeks. Vocal and energetic supporters for the defense such as John Lamb, David “Zion” Brunner and Deborah Venetucci, may account for some of the interest. Advocates have diverse backgrounds, although there are several ranchers, cowboys and even Indians. Land protesters are working together. Some members of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe’s North Dakota pipeline protests have visited the courthouse.

Supporters here are uncommonly loyal, considering the majority had never met any defendants before the trials. They’ve braved rain, cold, exhaustion, harassment and occasional run-ins with Department of Homeland Security agents, whose vehicles encircle the court. Most advocates of the occupiers are not wealthy and bear travel and living costs themselves, leaving family and businesses for extended periods of time. Somewhere, a private “Liberty Camp” offers a makeshift shelter, for those whose funds have been depleted. A horse named “Lady Liberty” parades with them and Portland police officers have become rather fond of her. They seem on friendly terms with the supporters as well, occasionally warning them when trouble is brewing."


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This mornings headline news, here in Central Oregon----

Friday October 28, 2016

"The Bulletin"

"7 standoff defendants acquitted"

Hopefully the family members of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum can feel some peace, that his efforts were not all in vain, of a focus on the control of public Western Lands, may be looked upon closer, even if not done in the perfect way.

Personally would like it compared somewhat to Joshua 1:6 wherein it is written----

"For unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them."

Yes, after all, they are "Public Lands" of "We the People" in a nation under God, where the people are to set up laws, and dwell in peace and goodwill, one with another, with liberty and justice and equity for all.......

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I read yesterday that the Bundys were not being released,following their acquittal, and am concerned that the FedGov will bring up other charges as reason to keep them incarcerated.

Also, I read that the Bundy brothers and their father, Cliven Bundy still face a trial in Nevada for an armed standoff there. I thought that was a closed case, but possibly not.

"It ain't over 'till its over." Remember how the police officers who arrested Rodney King were tried twice for the same "crime" on a second set of charges initiated by the FedGov. I expect the same will happen in this case.

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:( Sad.

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There is no government overreach in the courtroom, right?

Bundy Lawyer, Marcus Mumford, Describes How He Was Attacked In Courtroom After Not Guilty Verdict
Bundy Attorney Attacked By U.S. Marshals After Acquittal
Bundy Acquittal -Two Faces Of American Justice -Michele Fiore

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From what I have read it appears that the jurors realized that this was a very biased and rigged trial, and that these people were not criminals. However, I imagine the FedGov is desperate for conviction on whatever charges they can get them on and will pursue that relentlessly.

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Not Guilty In Oregon Standoff Trial Mumford and Fry Assaulted by US Marshalls
BOMBSHELL: Hammonds Break Silence - Threatened by Feds

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Sheriff Richard Mack, CSPOA, in Burns, Oregon

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Thanks for the updates on these issues.

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Judges are getting away with convicting people because they are going by the laws of the sea....NOT THE LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION. I know I'm not saying things proper, but I hope someone can come and convey this info in its proper context.

Please listen to this man named Wayne. He explains in good detail how the government gets away with using the law of the sea on land. Something to do with A2/A:D or law of the Navy. This is used to deny people their Constitutional privileges and unalienable rights. THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF TO BE RECKONED WITH.
Again, please listen.

A2/A:D or Access To...switch...Area Denied

This, I believe, is why the Bundy's, the Hammonds and many others are getting the shaft.

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Law of Admiralty, seen by the flags flown in courthouses and especially courtrooms.

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LaVoy Assassination forensic PROOF released!
Sheriff Ward admits to premeditated MURDER of Robert LaVoy Finicum

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Does anyone know the exact coordinates of Lavoy's assassination?


I have around 43 49 26.32N 118 58 23.78W

Another source, a video, shows an approximate 43 49 36.70N 118 58 17.78W
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLIUDBrU9Cs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I suspect these coordinates are not accurate, but I am quite interested in acquiring the actual location so I can mark it on Google Earth.

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At about 43 49 36.59N 118 58 17.76W

Notice the vehicle parked at the site in the GE shot.

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freedomforall wrote:LaVoy Assassination forensic PROOF released!

Don't forget the foam bullet hypothesis, for which there is very good evidence, first posted here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9823&start=3510#p761381" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I just wanted to mention that Donald Trump was the only Presidential candidate that I'm aware of, who really took a position on this BLM/Rancher stand off, decrying Federal Overreach and the Feds not staying within Constitutional bounds.

He even wrote an article published in the Reno Gazette on this subject . . . which was a small touch, but a very telling one for me, indicating his sincerity regarding the rest of his positions.

Here is a link to the article for those interested: http://www.rgj.com/story/opinion/voices ... /78422530/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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larsenb wrote:
freedomforall wrote:LaVoy Assassination forensic PROOF released!

Don't forget the foam bullet hypothesis, for which there is very good evidence, first posted here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9823&start=3510#p761381" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Yes, a foam bullet was used to set up the killing of Lavoy. When he dropped his arms that gave them an excuse for blowing him away.

Plus we know there was no cell phone service in that area which gave the killers an advantage. They planned it right down to the last evil move. I think the guy darting out that almost got hit was a set up so Lavoy couldn't gun the vehicle to get passed the blockade and attempt to continue on to JD.

I wish Lavoy would have asked for and gotten a police escort to John Day from Burns. What would have occurred then? Would the FBI have killed JDPD officers?

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"In January, political prisoner Pete Santilli called out the misconduct of the Bureau of Land Management under the direction of Daniel P. Love at Bundy Ranch in 2014. That came just one day after government prosecutors sought to cover up the behavior of BLM agents and the unconstitutionality of the BLM in the Bundy Ranch trials. Following the release of a report from the Inspector General, which documents the misconduct of what is probably the government’s star witness in the case, BLM agent Daniel P. Love, a flurry of motions were filed by the defendants on Thursday.

Guerilla Media Network’s Deb Jordan posted to her Facebook on the events that took place in Nevada on Thursday.

Within the past hour or so, Cliven filed a motion in limine regarding ‘Longbow Productions’ with declaration by Brand Thornton, and a response to the government’s motion in limine filed last week.
Also, Steven Stewart just filed a motion to dismiss on grounds that the government has just been caught covering up info regarding its star witness Dan Love.
Finally, a few minutes ago, Ryan Payne filed another motion to dismiss regarding the Dan Love revelations.

If something doesn’t derail soon, the trials will begin and quite possibly this could be the biggest exposure of the overreach of the central government in history in a court of law. Keep in mind too that many families are traveling to Nevada and a house has been set up to care for them and their children during the trials. If you can help, here’s the information to do so. Thank you in advance.

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