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Uranium One Found Mining In Southwestern Oregon - YouTube
That's really why LaVoy Finicum was murdered, because he and other people got in the way.

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Toto wrote: October 19th, 2017, 11:28 pm Clinton/Obama Were Colluding With The Russians, Not Trump
TIM BROWN — OCTOBER 18, 2017

Excerpts:

Reporter Pete Santilli, who was at Malheur and had all charges dismissed against him in September said, "Before being arrested I was researching and reporting on the connection between Malheur, Hillary Clinton, and Uranium One. I was arrested the day after I released the [Hammond Legal Files] and at that point my investigation was effectively stopped; now that Donald Trump has brought the issue back into the spotlight, I thought we should take another look."

The letter is of great interest because just a short time before it was written to Karges, it was being widely reported that Oregon Energy llc [a subsidiary of Uranium One] was poised to start mining for Uranium in Oregon.

This gets to the heart of why the Hammond land was at stake in the Oregon fiasco. As I reported in January the Hammond's Ranch is rich in Uranium and other minerals. In fact, it's worth billions!


Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpkm6iSd--c and https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... ZGTumFVgCI

Read the entire story with links, and vids here: https://freedomoutpost.com/clintonobama ... not-trump/
I remember reading this during the 'Malheur standoff', but in a recent report from AJ or Fox News, they reported the Uranium as coming from deposits in Wyoming.

Haven't checked your links yet, but do you have something definitive on the Uranium One/Oregon connection?

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If you search the Oregon BLM maps you find all sorts of uranium deposits in Eastern Oregon, but here is something I found in just a quick search....

https://www.blm.gov/or/energy/uranium.php

This report goes on and on with links to other information, but here's a quote:

In September 2011, a representative from Oregon Energy, L.L.C. (formally Uranium One), met with local citizens, and county and state officials, to discuss the possibility of opening a uranium oxide ("yellowcake") mine in southern Malheur County in southeastern Oregon. Oregon Energy is interested in developing a 17-Claim parcel of land known as the Aurora Project through an open pit mining method. Besides the mine, there would be a mill for processing. The claim area occupies about 450 acres and is also referred to as the "New U" uranium claims.

A year later...

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north ... or_go.html

I seem to recall that 'Uranium One LLC' has gone through several name changes, as well as 'national' ownership.

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buffalo_girl wrote: October 28th, 2017, 4:52 pm If you search the Oregon BLM maps you find all sorts of uranium deposits in Eastern Oregon, but here is something I found in just a quick search....

https://www.blm.gov/or/energy/uranium.php

This report goes on and on with links to other information, but here's a quote:

In September 2011, a representative from Oregon Energy, L.L.C. (formally Uranium One), met with local citizens, and county and state officials, to discuss the possibility of opening a uranium oxide ("yellowcake") mine in southern Malheur County in southeastern Oregon. Oregon Energy is interested in developing a 17-Claim parcel of land known as the Aurora Project through an open pit mining method. Besides the mine, there would be a mill for processing. The claim area occupies about 450 acres and is also referred to as the "New U" uranium claims.

A year later...

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north ... or_go.html

I seem to recall that 'Uranium One LLC' has gone through several name changes, as well as 'national' ownership.
Thanks, BG. I guess I'm just lazy. If the BLM said it, must be true.

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Thanks, BG. I guess I'm just lazy. If the BLM said it, must be true.

The flim-flam is so pervasive and constant it's hard to sort through it to find reality. Even when you think you have it nailed, it can slip away.

I notice the AJ reporter kept referring to the Aurora Uranium Project as being in SW Oregon. Well...Malheur County is the lowest SE county in Oregon, just above Nevada. The Bundy's ranch is in Clark County Nevada - near Las Vegas. - way, way down at the tip of Nevada. The Bundys came to Malheur to support the Hammonds.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Malheur ... 36.0795613

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larsenb –See this video and links in the description:

Wikileaks - Hammond, Bundy, Malheur Minerals Sold by Clinton to Russia China Judge Into Hedge Funds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqew1-a ... e=youtu.be

See documents shown in the above video linked at: https://www.facebook.com/jlecenarro/med ... 405&type=3

I am unable to find the entire video, about an hour, where they went through all the documents.

Here’s another link, which references the deposits in Wyoming you mentioned:

Clinton Foundation Pockets Massive Payoffs From Russia for Mining Rights In Wyoming And Oregon- Hammond Ranch Part Of The Deal!
january 24, 2016 dianne marshall

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com ... -the-deal/

This article is a DOOZY……

Brace yourself: “Dirty cop” Robert Mueller attempting desperate indictment to distract from Uranium One scandal and Hillary Clinton treason

Sunday, October 29, 2017 by: Mike Adams (Natural News)

Brace yourself for a barrage of fake news from the mainstream media that will be catapulted into your consciousness starting tomorrow. According to multiple news reports, the corrupt special counsel Robert Mueller has filed criminal charges stemming from his tainted investigation into people affiliated with the Trump administration. But this is all a deliberate distraction from the exploding Uranium One and Fusion GPS scandals, both of which are ensnaring not just Hillary Clinton but also James Comey and even Robert Mueller himself, who was head of the FBI when Clinton rubber stamped the selling of U.S. uranium supplies to Russia.

Now, it’s an all-out political war because Mueller, Comey, Hillary Clinton, Lynch and even Eric Holder know they are all going to be indicted for corruption and treason if they can’t destroy Trump and get him impeached.

God please bring this country justice! Lock up Corrupt and Criminal Mueller and the rest of the Deep State!

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-29- ... andal.html

Greg Hunter - Weekly News Wrap-Up 10.27.17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5muhnA1LYI

TRUMP Time To Investigate Hillary Exchange of 20% USA Uranium To Russia For $ 145 M To Clinton Foundation
Posted on March 29, 2017

https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.co ... oundation/

Former CIA Officer: ‘Russiagate’ Was Manufactured By The Clinton Campaign
October 28, 2017
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/russi ... dquarters/

The Clinton criminal cartel UNRAVELS...
October 28, 2017
from The Health Ranger:
https://youtu.be/CKyo5A7NcbM

Sean Hannity Reacts To Mueller Probe Charges: "When Will Hillary Clinton Be Indicted?"
October 28, 2017
from Zero Hedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-2 ... e-indicted

**BREAKING** Mueller Files First Charges in Russian Witch Hunt — ARRESTS AS SOON AS MONDAY!
October 27, 2017 by Joshua Caplan
Calls for Mueller resign don’t only stem from “conflicts of interest,” but due to his alleged role in the Clinton-Uranium One deal.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10 ... on-monday/

Enough?

The enforcement of the interventionist state requires a growing party of bureaucrats. Since groups demand special favors, the federal government must abuse the rights and the property of those who produce values and cherish liberty, and real resentment is rightfully directed at the agents who come to eat out our substance. Such is the case with the Hammond’s, the Bundy’s, and the liberty minded souls who came to their defense. The natural consequence is for the intruders to arm themselves to protect against angry victims of government intrusion, and the surge in the number of armed federal bureaucrats has been increasing. A total of over 60,000 federal agents includes the EPA, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, the Army Corp. of Engineers, and the Bureau of Land Management. When will the ADA have cops armed to the teeth? (Pun intended)

Heavy sigh!

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Toto wrote: October 29th, 2017, 10:44 pm larsenb –See this video and links in the description:

Wikileaks - Hammond, Bundy, Malheur Minerals Sold by Clinton to Russia China Judge Into Hedge Funds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqew1-a ... e=youtu.be

See documents shown in the above video linked at: https://www.facebook.com/jlecenarro/med ... 405&type=3

I am unable to find the entire video, about an hour, where they went through all the documents.

Here’s another link, which references the deposits in Wyoming you mentioned:

Clinton Foundation Pockets Massive Payoffs From Russia for Mining Rights In Wyoming And Oregon- Hammond Ranch Part Of The Deal!
january 24, 2016 dianne marshall

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com ... -the-deal/

This article is a DOOZY……

Brace yourself: “Dirty cop” Robert Mueller attempting desperate indictment to distract from Uranium One scandal and Hillary Clinton treason

Sunday, October 29, 2017 by: Mike Adams (Natural News)

Brace yourself for a barrage of fake news from the mainstream media that will be catapulted into your consciousness starting tomorrow. According to multiple news reports, the corrupt special counsel Robert Mueller has filed criminal charges stemming from his tainted investigation into people affiliated with the Trump administration. But this is all a deliberate distraction from the exploding Uranium One and Fusion GPS scandals, both of which are ensnaring not just Hillary Clinton but also James Comey and even Robert Mueller himself, who was head of the FBI when Clinton rubber stamped the selling of U.S. uranium supplies to Russia.

Now, it’s an all-out political war because Mueller, Comey, Hillary Clinton, Lynch and even Eric Holder know they are all going to be indicted for corruption and treason if they can’t destroy Trump and get him impeached.

God please bring this country justice! Lock up Corrupt and Criminal Mueller and the rest of the Deep State!

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-29- ... andal.html

Greg Hunter - Weekly News Wrap-Up 10.27.17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5muhnA1LYI

TRUMP Time To Investigate Hillary Exchange of 20% USA Uranium To Russia For $ 145 M To Clinton Foundation
Posted on March 29, 2017

https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.co ... oundation/

Former CIA Officer: ‘Russiagate’ Was Manufactured By The Clinton Campaign
October 28, 2017
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/russi ... dquarters/

The Clinton criminal cartel UNRAVELS...
October 28, 2017
from The Health Ranger:
https://youtu.be/CKyo5A7NcbM

Sean Hannity Reacts To Mueller Probe Charges: "When Will Hillary Clinton Be Indicted?"
October 28, 2017
from Zero Hedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-2 ... e-indicted

**BREAKING** Mueller Files First Charges in Russian Witch Hunt — ARRESTS AS SOON AS MONDAY!
October 27, 2017 by Joshua Caplan
Calls for Mueller resign don’t only stem from “conflicts of interest,” but due to his alleged role in the Clinton-Uranium One deal.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10 ... on-monday/

Enough?

The enforcement of the interventionist state requires a growing party of bureaucrats. Since groups demand special favors, the federal government must abuse the rights and the property of those who produce values and cherish liberty, and real resentment is rightfully directed at the agents who come to eat out our substance. Such is the case with the Hammond’s, the Bundy’s, and the liberty minded souls who came to their defense. The natural consequence is for the intruders to arm themselves to protect against angry victims of government intrusion, and the surge in the number of armed federal bureaucrats has been increasing. A total of over 60,000 federal agents includes the EPA, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, the Army Corp. of Engineers, and the Bureau of Land Management. When will the ADA have cops armed to the teeth? (Pun intended)

Heavy sigh!
This stuff deserves a thread of its own. Mueller is trying to take down Trump before things blow up in HIS own face. It makes me so angry that the mainstream media is ignoring all of this. Here in Utah the liberal news website of KSL won't even show articles about it and if you try and comment about Uranium One in any of their comment sections, they put the kibosh on it.

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buffalo_girl wrote: October 29th, 2017, 12:26 pm
Thanks, BG. I guess I'm just lazy. If the BLM said it, must be true.

The flim-flam is so pervasive and constant it's hard to sort through it to find reality. Even when you think you have it nailed, it can slip away.

I notice the AJ reporter kept referring to the Aurora Uranium Project as being in SW Oregon. Well...Malheur County is the lowest SE county in Oregon, just above Nevada. The Bundy's ranch is in Clark County Nevada - near Las Vegas. - way, way down at the tip of Nevada. The Bundys came to Malheur to support the Hammonds.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Malheur ... 36.0795613

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"The flim-flam is so pervasive and constant" and "scripture is the only constant in helping me find answers to my questions": Amen to that.

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Listen to a short segment of this interview to understand the goal in grabbing ALL planet resources and eliminating private property ownership use all in the name of Environmentalism and Sustainability. It's Feudalism.

Begin at around 30 minutes.

https://youtu.be/TCV2R19G5Lk

Watch all three segments for a broad view of what we are dealing with.

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https://constitution.com/blockbuster-ne ... -released/


All of the tier three defendants in the Bundy Ranch trials, including Cliven and Ammon Bundy and Ryan Payne have all been given pre-trial release! So much for a “threat to society”!
UPDATE: KSNV is now reporting Cliven will remain in jail as a matter of principle.

In a few video reports on the court’s ruling on Tuesday, Brad Thornton issued the news and answered questions.
Additionally, Bryan Hyde also reported from the Las Vegas airport on the releases.
Murdered rancher LaVoy Finicum’s daughter Challice took to Facebook to express her thankfulness at the news as well.
Be sure to spread the information far and wide.

These releases come on the heels of the pre-trial release of Ryan Bundy who issued an amazing opening statement in court that every red-blooded American should read and share with their family and friends!

May the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ be praised!

UPDATE: KSNV is now reporting Cliven will remain in jail as a matter of principle.

Cliven Bundy was granted release to the home of Jim Abbott in a supervised release with conditions similar to Ammon’s, including 24/7 house arrest and permission to see his wife and family, but cannot speak to anyone testifying in the trial.

However, in a move that shocked many in the courtroom, he said no and wants to stay in prison.

His attorney stated that Cliven is a “man of principle” and doesn’t want to be released unless everyone else is released.

While the decision shocked many in the courtroom, it didn’t shock family members or Bundy supporters.

“The standard of liberty is innocent until proven guilty,” Ryan Bundy told News 3 outside of the courtroom.

They also stated that Cliven believes he is innocent so there should be no conditions to his release."

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http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/bundy-case-d ... pensation/


"It’s not like the FBI isn’t under fire already, with its unwillingness to refer charges against Hillary Clinton amid evidence she mishandled classified information and the investigation by mostly Clinton-supporting investigators into allegations the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the 2016 election.
Now, there’s another issue: Two men acquitted of charges in the 2014 Bunkerville, Nevada, standoff involving rancher Cliven Bundy are suing the FBI and former Director James Comey for “malicious prosecution,” claiming the bureau presented false evidence in their case and destroyed exculpatory evidence.
Montana resident Ricky Lovelien and Idaho resident Steven Stewart were cleared of 10 charges they faced but spent a year-and-a-half in jail without bail, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.
They were accused of driving from other states to Bunkerville to support Bundy, who was under fire from the government for allegedly trying to halt federal agents from rounding up his cattle.
Now lawsuits have been filed on their behalf by lawyer Larry Klayman under the Federal Tort Claims Act.
“Steven Stewart’s claim lies against certain agents, employees, and/or directors of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, including James Comey and unnamed John and/or Jane Does who presented false evidence to the U.S. Department of Justice and engaged in the destruction of evidence which caused the malicious prosecution of Mr. Stewart and for which he was imprisoned without bail for a year and one half,” the complaint states.
“This severely harmed Mr. Stewart’s economic and other means of livelihood and caused extreme emotional distress. Mr. Stewart was deprived of his freedom in violation of the 5th Amendment, and his right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment and his right to protest under the 1st Amendment to the Constitution,” it explains.
The standoff at Bunkerville had attracted individuals from all across the country, when, the complaint charges, “FBI and other federal agents violently assault[ed] Mr. Bundy’s family members before and during their efforts to seize the land that Mr. Bundy’s family had ranched on for decades.”
Stewart “was unarmed throughout the entirety of the standoff and obeyed all of the commands issued by the federal agents.”
Nevertheless, he was accused of conspiracy against the U.S., conspiracy to impede a federal officer, carrying a firearm, assault on a federal officer and threatening an officer.
Klayman states in the complaint: “It was clear from the very beginning that the FBI did not possess any real evidence to substantiate any of the charges brought against Mr. Stewart – since none existed – but still pursued his prosecution anyway and did, in fact, cause the DOJ to indict and prosecute Mr. Stewart.
“The FBI agents at the subject of this complaint improperly influenced the U.S. attorney for the district of Nevada to prosecute Mr. Stewart as a direct result of pressure from, and on direct orders from, former President Barack Obama’s Justice Department.”
It was the FBI, along with the Bureau of Land Management, DOJ and others “working in concert, who actually engaged in the obstruction of justice by destroying and spoiling evidence and hiding of exculpatory evidence to try to obtain a wrongful conviction against Mr. Stewart.”
Stewart ended up in jail for about 18 months, Klayman explained.
The claim is directed to the FBI, and another was sent to the BLM and Department of the Interior.
Stewart is asking for about $58,000 in damages.
Similar concerns are raised over the prosecution of Rick Lovelien, who is claiming damages of about $8,300 for, among other things, a frozen water line in his home that burst because he was in jail and there was no one to empty the lines or run a heater."

http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/bundy-case-d ... BGu8J6V.99

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https://www.westernjournalism.com/judge ... tyalliance

"A federal judge declared a mistrial on Wednesday in the case against Cliven Bundy and his co-defendants, stemming from their 2014 standoff in Nevada with the Bureau of Land Management over grazing rights.
U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that federal prosecutors unlawfully withheld information they were required to turn over to the defense including surveillance video, maps and FBI interview information, the Las Vegas Journal Review reported.
The judge stated prosecutors knew or should have known of the existence of this evidence that may have been helpful to Cliven, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, and co-defendant Ryan Payne.
“Considered collectively, she said, the evidence that was withheld was favorable to the defendants and its untimely disclosure was prejudicial in that it ‘undermined the confidence of the outcome of the trial,'” Navarro found, according to the Journal Review.
The men are accused of conspiring to block federal agents from enforcing a court order to confiscate the Bundys’ cattle, which was grazing on public lands.
“Cliven Bundy had failed to pay grazing fees and fines for years,” according to The Associated Press. “The men are also charged with firearms crimes, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of justice and extortion in a trial that began (on Nov. 14) in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas.”
Bundy contended the federal government lacks the constitutional authority to own vast tracks of western lands, stating it instead belongs to the states and the people. He and the others present were protesting what they contended was unlawful conduct by the federal government in seizing his cattle.
As previously reported by The Western Journal, a federal whistleblower sent a memo to the Department of Justice last month alleging malfeasance in the handling of the investigation in the Bundy Ranch standoff.
Special agent Larry Wooten, who worked on the investigation (until being removed in February), wrote in the 18-page memo, “I routinely observed, and the investigation revealed a widespread pattern of bad judgment, lack of discipline, incredible bias, unprofessionalism and misconduct, as well as likely policy, ethical, and legal violations among senior and supervisory staff.”
He added their actions, “adversely affected our agency’s mission and likely the trial regarding Cliven Bundy and his alleged co-conspirators and ignored the letter and the intent of the law.”
Wooten chronicled in his memo that those overseeing the investigation showed clear prejudice against the Bundys, their supporters and the Mormon faith, which the ranchers profess.
BLM agents prominently displayed booking photos with “X’s” drawn over the faces of the Bundys, according to Wooten.
The agent recounted that when he reported what he was seeing to the agent-in-charge of the investigation, Dan Love, he came to realize the supervisor was “aware of the issues, participated in, or instigated the misconduct himself.”
Wooten accused Love, who was in charge of the cattle roundup at the Bundy ranch, of intentionally ignoring direction from the U.S. Attorney’s Office and his superiors “in order to command the most intrusive, oppressive, large scale and militaristic trespass cattle impound possible.”
Washington state Rep. Matt Shea, spoke out forcefully to the media last week after seeing Wooten’s memo, stating in an interview with Redoubt News, “a sniper rifle is not due process.”
“The government in the trial was saying, or at least implying that there were no snipers on site, and then this document details that there were in fact snipers on site,” Shea told The Western Journal. “These were being pointed at Americans who were protesting lawfully.”
The representative has been a longtime advocate for significant portions of federal lands held in the west being turned over to the states.
Shea said the clear bias shown by the investigators is exculpatory and can be used to impeach the government witnesses at the Bundy trial.
He noted that Navarro cited the Wooten memo in her Wednesday ruling.
According to ABC affiliate KTNV, a new trial in the Bundy case will likely begin in February.
Based on what he has seen, Shea does not believe a mistrial is an adequate remedy.
“The withheld evidence doesn’t just give reason for a mistrial,” he said. “It looks like there needs to be a dismissal.”
Shea added: “I don’t think this stops with a mistrial and a dismissal, I think this continues with an investigation,” into the BLM.
Fox News reported that “jurors acquitted (Ammon and Ryan Bundy) of taking over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon for more than a month in early 2016 and amid calls for the U.S. government to turn over public land to local control.”

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"Shea does not believe a mistrial is an adequate remedy." Of course not! In declaring a mistrial, Judge Navarro simply gives the prosecution yet another chance to get past the obstruction charges and try again with a new trial. That's what he Feds want; continued efforts to put the Bundy's and their closest supporters behind bars for decades. I think that without intervention by President Trump or AD Sessions, the biased Navarro court will again be in session in February of next year.

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Will Cliven remain in prison until the next tax fed insult to justice?

Will Ammon & Ryan have to wear the monitoring rfid until the next go round?

This is exactly what happened to the Hammond men in Malheur County, Oregon, and exactly why the Bundy sons went there to support them.

It was also done to the Hage Family in Nevada. They won repeated court judgments over decades of struggle with the feds. Subsequent generations of the Hage Family thought they could finally enjoy what their parents had left to them.

No such luck!

https://pacificlegal.org/breaking-gover ... ty-rights/

We will be sued, burned and bankrupted into oblivion. I'm hearing rumors that 'meat producers' will be 'taxed' due to the damage caused by belching and gas passing animals upon the climate. I'm not sure how those millions upon millions of bison and other ruminants managed not to belch us into oblivion prior to the 'Doctrine of Discovery'.

Of course, those concerned about the impact of geoengineering on the planet were barred from the Paris Climate Talks. They weren't even allowed to submit their research and concerns.

The technocrats running the global iron fist intend to break any independence based on land ownership.
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Did I understand correctly that some spokesperson for the LDS Church made some disparaging comments about the Bundys?

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I'm not so close to ZION (SLC) I would have heard it.

If so, I wouldn't call that 'politically neutral'.

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There was this statement prior to Lavoy Finnicum's death:

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/ ... occupation

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I agree that the armed occupation could be justified on a scriptural basis, I consider it as ill advised. But the statement that "We are privileged to live in a nation where conflicts with government or private groups can — and should — be settled using peaceful means, according to the laws of the land." is not true in this day and age, if it ever was. However, I think I understand why the Church would issue such a statement to avoid tweaking the nose of the beast.

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Although this web journal has a bit of bias concerning the Bundy Family's right to access water on 'public land', this article really gets into the rogue methods used by 'federal agencies' operating against landowners accused of being on the 'wrong side of the law'.

These are the same tactics used against Standing Rock residents opposed to a massive crude oil pipeline routed under the Missouri River 1/2 mile upstream from their only community water source.

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/22/cli ... ndoff-fbi/

Last week, The Oregonian reported on the existence of a memo written by a senior BLM official tasked with leading an assessment of the government’s handling of the Bundy standoff, which pointed to a yearslong pattern of incompetence and potentially illegal behavior on behalf of federal agents tasked with protecting public lands.

The sealed document, later posted online, was authored by Larry “Clint” Wooten and painted a picture of a lawless federal agency. During his two years and 10 months examining the Bundy case, which he described as “the largest and most expansive and important investigation ever within the Department of Interior,” Wooten said he observed “a widespread pattern of bad judgment, lack of discipline, incredible bias, unprofessionalism and misconduct, as well as likely policy, ethical, and legal violations among senior and supervisory staff at the BLM’s Office of Law Enforcement and Security.” Wooten added that the actions of BLM officials in the Bundy case “made a mockery of our position of special trust and confidence, portrayed extreme professional bias, adversely affected our agency’s mission and likely the trial regarding Cliven Bundy and his alleged co-conspirators and ignored the letter and intent of the law.”

In addition to a fostering a “carnival atmosphere,” in which the Bundy defendants, their supporters, and Mormons in general were routinely ridiculed (the Bundys are Mormon), Wooten accused Dan Love, the lead BLM agent, of doing everything in his power to push the Bundy investigation in his preferred direction. “It is my assessment and the investigation showed that the 2014 Gold Butte Trespass Cattle Impound was in part a punitive and ego driven expedition by a Senior BLM Law Enforcement Supervisor,” he said, adding that Love sought to “command the most intrusive, oppressive, large scale and militaristic trespass cattle impound possible.” Wooten specifically accused senior BLM officials in Nevada of failing to keep the U.S. attorney’s office up to date “on substantive and exculpatory case findings and unacceptable bias indications.” When he “personally informed” acting U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre and the FBI of the issues, Wooten said, his supervisor “deceptively acted ignorant and surprised.”


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They didn't mean to 'hide' evidence from the Defense!!!

Let's try the Bundy's once again. Let's do this until we get it right. Is Cliven still in prison?

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-stando ... ew_tr.html

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Re: The Standoff in Oregon and Killing of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum

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buffalo_girl wrote: January 3rd, 2018, 11:57 am Here's the memo from a BLM Special Agent overseeing the Bundy Ranch investigation who 'blew the whistle' on the preplanned military action against the Bundy Family. This document is most likely responsible for the judge calling a mistrial and again leaving the whole thing open to another trial on the same charges.

The memo should have had charges against the Bundy's dismissed, and all these BLM agents serving as witnesses against the Bundy's, arrested and tried along with the US Attorney serving as prosecutor.

https://redoubtnews.com/2017/12/shea-ex ... trocities/

https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/uplo ... to,-74,329

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Re: The Standoff in Oregon and Killing of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum

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Thank you, Buffalo Girl, for keeping up on this and keeping us informed.

Somewhere I got it in my head that Cliven Bundy was offered a release but insisted on remaining in jail for reasons I do not remember.

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Re: The Standoff in Oregon and Killing of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum

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Cliven Bundy was offered a RFID monitored release which he refused. He chose to remain incarcerated until charges were dropped or a jury trial ended in acquittal. He wants to walk out of prison a free man with NO strings attached.

I strongly suspect that outside prison, something would have happened to him - either 'an accident' or a 'set up' which would have totally discredited him. Of course, something may also happen to him in the 'for profit prison'. His health is failing due to teeth problems being unattended, but whatever happens to him inside can only be attributed to those holding physical 'power over him'.

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Re: The Standoff in Oregon and Killing of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum

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FREE AT LAST!!!

"DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE"


https://youtu.be/AAsaupWUe74


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