light-one wrote:
Christ-like people wouldn't apply for that job in a million years
Here is what an honest sheriff acts like:
You just can't make this stuff up.
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You do see your self contradiction right?
light-one wrote:
Christ-like people wouldn't apply for that job in a million years
Here is what an honest sheriff acts like:
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He [Mark McConnell] has been described in numerous news stories as Ammon Bundy’s “bodyguard.” He was regarded by many inside and outside of the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Sanctuary in Oregon as one of the activists in charge of “security” for the occupiers. On the afternoon of January 26, he was the driver of the lead vehicle carrying Ammon Bundy and another fellow occupier, Bryan “Buddha” Cavalier, to a meeting with the sheriff of neighboring Grant County. Accusers say he was knowingly leading Bundy and Cavalier, as well as the following vehicle driven by Arizona rancher LaVoy Finicum into a deadly trap.
McConnell was the only occupant of the two vehicles who was wearing a loaded sidearm at the time of the arrest on January 26. This claim is reinforced by testimony from an arresting officer identified only as “Officer 7” in the recently released official report of the shooting conducted by a “Tri-County Major Incident Team” composed of investigators from three Oregon county sheriffs’ offices. Although Officer 7’s testimony concerns only McConnell’s vehicle, other statements released by officials thus far indicate that while there were firearms recovered from Finicum’s vehicle, none of the other occupants was carrying or wearing a firearm (?) .
Officer 7 was asked by the incident investigator if any occupants of the lead vehicle, McConnell’s Jeep, were armed when arrested. Officer 7 responds (on page 211): “Yes, um … the only person that I ... observed with a weapon — what I recall was the driver, uh, I recall seein — I believe he had a pistol on his right … hip.”
That would be a reference to Mark McConnell, the driver. Yet, not only was McConnell released without charge, his name does not even appear among those arrested in the 360 pages of the report.
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We know that we can't force government to back off by merely saying "please". And what judge is going to back the Constitution where it says that government can only own the ten square miles in DC and forts and ports at the states permission? Why isn't this upheld? This crap is why the BLM is relentlessly forcing people off their land. This is why the Hammonds are in prison and the Bundy's going in that direction.buffalo_girl wrote:I'm sure not all LEOs' are corrupt. Too bad so many are. It kind of taints anyone sincerely attempting to be a 'Peace Officer'.
Here are a couple of things to think about while we wait for ALL the facts involving this out of control incident on Hwy 395.
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He [Mark McConnell] has been described in numerous news stories as Ammon Bundy’s “bodyguard.” He was regarded by many inside and outside of the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Sanctuary in Oregon as one of the activists in charge of “security” for the occupiers. On the afternoon of January 26, he was the driver of the lead vehicle carrying Ammon Bundy and another fellow occupier, Bryan “Buddha” Cavalier, to a meeting with the sheriff of neighboring Grant County. Accusers say he was knowingly leading Bundy and Cavalier, as well as the following vehicle driven by Arizona rancher LaVoy Finicum into a deadly trap.
McConnell was the only occupant of the two vehicles who was wearing a loaded sidearm at the time of the arrest on January 26. This claim is reinforced by testimony from an arresting officer identified only as “Officer 7” in the recently released official report of the shooting conducted by a “Tri-County Major Incident Team” composed of investigators from three Oregon county sheriffs’ offices. Although Officer 7’s testimony concerns only McConnell’s vehicle, other statements released by officials thus far indicate that while there were firearms recovered from Finicum’s vehicle, none of the other occupants was carrying or wearing a firearm (?) .
Officer 7 was asked by the incident investigator if any occupants of the lead vehicle, McConnell’s Jeep, were armed when arrested. Officer 7 responds (on page 211): “Yes, um … the only person that I ... observed with a weapon — what I recall was the driver, uh, I recall seein — I believe he had a pistol on his right … hip.”
That would be a reference to Mark McConnell, the driver. Yet, not only was McConnell released without charge, his name does not even appear among those arrested in the 360 pages of the report.
We need to remember that the protest was in support of the Hammond Family. Their ranching operation has been attacked by BLM & FWS (both federal agencies) for 15 years. Take a look at the BLM map found on Range Magazine's Editor's page. Note how the Hammond Ranch (pink) is nearly surrounded by land consumed by the feds. Also, note how much private land is still in existence in this area. The Hammond Ranch has been sliced and diced so that consistent watering and grazing of their cattle has crippled their operation. Their ranch contains 6,000 acres right in the 'heart' of what the federal government already has.
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I say "we the people" gave away their control of government by voting for the wrong candidates, helping in promoting evil activities and programs geared to destroy liberty and freedom. Then when "we the people" came to realize what they had done, it was too late to rectify the problems. "We the people" gave to government the very keys to lock us up according to their desire and will. But "we the people" didn't bother to read None Call It Conspiracy to find out how government does it. Now "we the people" are running scared, believing these POTUS candidates that say can fix things, just like in 2008. Obama said we need change, but he didn't say what kind. Now we know nearly eight years later. Do we know who actually runs America? The big bankers, that's who. They're the one's positioning the puppets they need to get their agenda completed which is...New World Order...that we have been warned of for decades and read about in the Book of Mormon. Americans allowed the government to be out of control, yet they feel they are right on target with their plan. When and where does it end?light-one wrote:The government is out of control.
http://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2016 ... y-finicum/
and they are gearing up to do it again.
https://shastalantern.net/2016/03/patri ... s-montana/
Typical government response. "Shut up or we'll kill you." The First Amendment only counts if you promise not to tell the truth.Elizabeth wrote:Federal Judge Shuts Down Free Speech Rights of the Oregon Protesters – Orders them to Stay Silent! – Eagle Rising
"a federal judge threatened Shauna Cox with jail is she made any public comments about the Oregon standoff.
The 59-year-old Cox was the woman who filmed the inside-the-truck video footage of LaVoy Finicum’s murder on January 26, 2016.
According to US District Judge Robert E. Jones said, “She’s not going to make any public comment, at all, period, or she could sit in jail.”
Cox was released from custody on January 29. However, she has been under home detention since that time.
The judge told Cox she must refrain from making any comments by phone or social media about her case “or any future protest movements.”
Tiffany Harris, Cox’s lawyer, objected to the scope of the order, but said her client would abide.
Shortly after her release, Cox was allowed to attend Finicum’s funeral in Kanab. Otherwise, she was ordered placed on GPS monitoring, home detention that permitted her to leave home only for work, medical appointments, religious services or other activities permitted by a pretrial services officer. She also isn’t permitted to possess any firearms and can only travel to Oregon for court.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Gabriel said Tuesday that Cox “has incited people to travel to Montana to help in harboring” co-defendant Jake Ryan, who has not yet been arrested.
Cox also went on a YouTube video on March 23 for more than an hour talking about the pending case and who she believed to be a government informant, Gabriel said.
Oh, we can’t have that now, can we? We can’t have those who were closest to what was going on outing a potential mole, can we? Everyone that I’ve spoken to believes there was a mole and that he was in the convoy on the day of the arrests. According to my sources, this man was carrying a gun in the vehicle. Yet, within a very short period of time, he was allowed to go free. This raised suspicions among many people and this same person was one that I provided his video commentary on and immediately thought that he didn’t sound believable. His name is Mark McConnell.
Since the US Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech,” I do wonder how this judge is not, in essence, legislating from the bench by claiming that Cox cannot speak out about the criminal activity that has been going on by the Bureau of Land Management, the Oregon State Police and the FBI.
In either case, Ms. Cox agreed by phone from her home in Kanab, Utah.
A curfew was also imposed upon Ms. Cox. I do have to say, all of this smacks of a violation of the Fifth Amendment, which states clearly that “No person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
It wouldn't seem so in this case. At least not now, in the temporal existence which is now current. It could land you in a cage.Thing is, the truth shall set you free.
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Why did Patrick Henry say "give me liberty or give me death"?light-one wrote:Typical government response. "Shut up or we'll kill you." The First Amendment only counts if you promise not to tell the truth.Elizabeth wrote:Federal Judge Shuts Down Free Speech Rights of the Oregon Protesters – Orders them to Stay Silent! – Eagle Rising
"a federal judge threatened Shauna Cox with jail is she made any public comments about the Oregon standoff.
The 59-year-old Cox was the woman who filmed the inside-the-truck video footage of LaVoy Finicum’s murder on January 26, 2016.
According to US District Judge Robert E. Jones said, “She’s not going to make any public comment, at all, period, or she could sit in jail.”
Cox was released from custody on January 29. However, she has been under home detention since that time.
The judge told Cox she must refrain from making any comments by phone or social media about her case “or any future protest movements.”
Tiffany Harris, Cox’s lawyer, objected to the scope of the order, but said her client would abide.
Shortly after her release, Cox was allowed to attend Finicum’s funeral in Kanab. Otherwise, she was ordered placed on GPS monitoring, home detention that permitted her to leave home only for work, medical appointments, religious services or other activities permitted by a pretrial services officer. She also isn’t permitted to possess any firearms and can only travel to Oregon for court.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Gabriel said Tuesday that Cox “has incited people to travel to Montana to help in harboring” co-defendant Jake Ryan, who has not yet been arrested.
Cox also went on a YouTube video on March 23 for more than an hour talking about the pending case and who she believed to be a government informant, Gabriel said.
Oh, we can’t have that now, can we? We can’t have those who were closest to what was going on outing a potential mole, can we? Everyone that I’ve spoken to believes there was a mole and that he was in the convoy on the day of the arrests. According to my sources, this man was carrying a gun in the vehicle. Yet, within a very short period of time, he was allowed to go free. This raised suspicions among many people and this same person was one that I provided his video commentary on and immediately thought that he didn’t sound believable. His name is Mark McConnell.
Since the US Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech,” I do wonder how this judge is not, in essence, legislating from the bench by claiming that Cox cannot speak out about the criminal activity that has been going on by the Bureau of Land Management, the Oregon State Police and the FBI.
In either case, Ms. Cox agreed by phone from her home in Kanab, Utah.
A curfew was also imposed upon Ms. Cox. I do have to say, all of this smacks of a violation of the Fifth Amendment, which states clearly that “No person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
Thing is, the truth shall set you free.
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Glenn Palmer, an Air Force veteran, has made a career in law enforcement, which is both a moral liability and a cause for concern. In defiance of reasonable expectations, however, he describes his role as that of a servant, rather than an overseer.
“I am not a government employee,” Palmer insists. “I am a public servant – I serve the people who elected me.”
“We started seeing the excessive use of force, and people getting guns pointed at them by federal officers for wood permit violations [and] road closure violations,” Palmer recalled during a speech a few years ago. “It’s excessive use of force, it’s uncalled-for, it’s unacceptable.”
“I chose … to take a stand between bad government … and the people I am sworn to protect and defend,” Palmer declares. This is true “whether they’re from my county, or whether you come to visit or recreate, or if you have a business, or are just traveling through. I have a duty and obligation to keep you from bad government.”
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But Love's critics say his intimidating attitude and unwillingness to consult with counties exemplify a "culture of arrogance" that undermines cooperation in Utah's remote reaches. The public loses, safety is compromised and tax dollars are wasted, Utah's rural sheriffs say.
"This refusal to coordinate, coupled with a lack of any meaningful oversight, has created a perfect environment where the abuse of federal law enforcement powers can occur," Perkins recently testified before a congressional committee.
For example, Perkins and San Juan County Sheriff Rick Eldredge say, rangers pull over citizens without probable cause, even in areas where they have no jurisdiction, "bully" ranch hands, berate tourists for parking vehicles off dirt roads and illegally close roads. Federal officers refuse to help with searches and rescues, or when they do, they get in the way.
BLM law enforcement officials would not speak on the record, but an agency spokeswoman said BLM does takes complaints seriously.
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOO, where are the Oathkeepers now? Why aren't they right there backing the Bundy's and standing against the injustice? Have the Bundy's been hung out to dry, sold down the river, sitting on the outer branch while the branch is being severed from the trunk, sent to the moon via cannon? If the Bundy's are the only one's trying to fight this injustice, are they going to get a fair and just outcome?Elizabeth wrote:http://eaglerising.com/33364/patriot-cl ... stitution/
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"On Tuesday, political prisoner Cliven Bundy filed a complaint against U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro, U.S. Senator Harry Reid, the son of Harry Reid, Rory Reid and President Barack Obama for violating the Constitution by violating his Sixth Amendment Right to Counsel and For Speedy Trial, Eighth Amendment Right Against Cruel and Unusual Punishment (Mr. Bundy is currently being held in solitary confinement), Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms in Self-Defense, and First Amendment Right to Assemble in Self-Defense.
Bundy says that the defendants in the suit have engaged in “illegal, unconstitutional, intentional and malicious acts.” He adds that being placed in solitary confinement since his arrest amounts to “cruel and unusual punishment.”
In fact, Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore told Jim White and me on Northwest Liberty News radio that Bundy’s only communication was to put a cookie near his cell door in order to hear the guard say “Thank you” and him to be able to respond, “You’re welcome.”
“Defendant Harry Reid’s hand-picked Director of the Bureau of Land Management, Neil Kornze, a longtime Reid aide, at the direction of Defendant Harry Reid ordered and sent the equivalent of federal storm-troopers to Plaintiff Bundy’s ranch to seize his and his family’s land and capture and/or harm his cattle, at the direction of Defendant Harry Reid,” read the complaint. “These so called federal agents proceeded to threaten the lives of Defendant Bundy and his family at gunpoint, abuse and kill their cattle, including burying bulls in secret mass graves, and assaulting and tasing various Bundy family members to force them off the land.”
The complaint was filed by Attorney Larry Klayman, who was rejected by Judge Navarro from representing Bundy twice. Klayman also filed two exhibits with the complaint (You can see those hereand here). The federal lawsuit seeks the removal of Judge Navarro from the case, allow Klayman to join Bundy’s defense team and seeks more than $50 million in damages.
“In short, defendant Navarro has shown her true intentions and bias and prejudice, rising to the level of denying Sixth Amendment right of counsel and to a speedy trial to plaintiff Bundy, following the ‘marching orders’ of her benefactors, defendants Harry Reid and Obama,” attorney Joel Hansen alleges in the complaint and alleges that Navarro is a “Latino activist.”Harry Reid’s son, Rory, was also named in the suit, as he is the former Clark County Commissioner. Reid also ran unsuccessfully for Governor of Nevada in 2010. In fact, the complaint outlines a conspiracy against Bundy by the younger Reid, the elder Reid, Obama and Navarro.
While the White House has not commented on the lawsuit, Harry Reid’s office did call it “baseless and absurd.” That’s no surprise.
“Bundy, his sons and their believers have endangered the lives of federal officers, have defaced and damaged public lands and squandered public resources for their own benefit. They are domestic terrorists,” said Reid spokeswoman Kristen Orthman. “They are deadly and dangerous and will be brought to justice.”
The problem is that Ms. Orthman’s comments are baseless and absurd, and not only that, but she isfollowing her boss in slandering the Bundys by calling them domestic terrorists. As I pointed out on Tuesday, with video evidence, the only ones who have “endangered lives” have been federal agents of the BLM and FBI, and we know the FBI aided the Oregon State Police in not only endangering lives,but taking one. It also appears the FBI is engaged in a coverup concerning the murder of LaVoy Finicum.
“Following the legal and constitutional stand-off, whereby plaintiff Bundy, his sons and other family members and supporters exercised their Second Amendment right of self-defense against the government, and succeeded in having the BLM agents and representatives leave the Bundy ranch unharmed, Plaintiff Bundy publicly equated his and his family’s situation to the plight of ‘Negroes’ in the old South, whereby they were enslaved by a tyrannical government as he and his family believed they were given the threats and violent attacks on his family members, his cattle and the Bundy’s supporters,” the court documents state. “He chose the word ‘Negro’ believing that this was a proper term for African-Americans, having looked up the word in Webster’s dictionary. He meant no disrespect and insult to African-Americans, particularly since he was equating his and his family’s plight with them. Indeed, the Reverend Martin Luther King referred to his people as ‘Negroes’ and he is recognized as the greatest African-American civil rights leader in American history.”
Oregon Live reports, “Federal prosecutor Steven Myhre dismissed as ‘outrageous, irrelevant and offensive’ the idea that there was ‘some grand conspiracy by political leaders to take over the land.'”Yet, the fact is that the lands of the ranchers are valuable, tied to Agenda 21 and that Harry Reid has vested interest in the land in Nevada. Agenda 21 is clearly a conspiracy and Mr. Myhre may not like the term, but it is appropriate.
While Judge Navarro claims that case law won’t allow Bundy to create a conflict like his attorneys have filed, she did say that she will decide on May 25 as to whether she will step aside.
The problem here is not case law, its constitutional law. What does the Constitution say about how Bundy and the other political prisoners are being treated? Frankly, I think it’s abundantly clear that the Constitution is being trampled on and so are the rights of these men."
freedomforall wrote: If the Bundy's are the only one's trying to fight this injustice, are they going to get a fair and just outcome?
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