Which conspiracy theories do you think are real?

[Silver Pie]

Really? I haven't heard that. But, then, I don't watch the news. I get it from friends and from online groups such as this one.

[JohnnyL]

The thing that so many don't seem to understand about the 9/11 event, is that it was a criminal conspiracy, regardless of who was behind or involved in it.

And casting it as a "government conspiracy" is too restrictive and therefore inaccurate. Were elements of government involved in planning and pulling it off, and in the subsequent coverup? Of course, but that doesn't mean it was a "government conspiracy". Way too black-and-white.

I can't think of one conspiracy, out of all that I believe, where everyone in the government agreed to it and its cover-up in all ways.

"Government conspiracy" is good enough for me.

Many in the government simply believed the official story. 9/11 also had major players outside of the government and even outside of this country that were involved in its planning and execution . . . . and I'm not talking about the 'Muslim' patsies. To call it a 'government conspiracy' (our government) is too simplistic. Doesn't cover the bases and misrepresents many, many high level people in the government who actually believed the official story.

I can't think of many conspiracies that don't involve non-govt. people, either.

911 could not have happened without multiple, major, US govt. players in on the conspiracy.

[David13]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the 'secret society' within the FBI that made the news Tuesday.

I think we have all mentioned it all along.
It's a tip of the iceberg so to speak that many of us have been talking about as long as we have been here.
They are now calling it the deep state. Part of a global conspiracy or agenda.
A little bit of the worm came toward the surface there. It will be ignored by the media.
dc

Correction, I think the 'deep state' is that part of that conspiracy which is deeply entrenched in the US government, probably at every single level.

[lundbaek]

I see the Federal Reserve as an on-going conspiracy to plunder the money of American citizens. And many non-government people are involved.

[bbsion]

I don't want to be rude but you would have to be naive to say "None of them" in this poll. If you've read the Book of Mormon and you understand even some of it then your logic would have to tell you that there is conspiracy in most if not all of the mentioned topics.

This is a pretty well written article on Mind Control.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantrep ... @#$-media/

[bbsion]

I do not know much about William Blum other than he used to work for the US State Department, he's an author, and a journalist. Either way I thought this quote was interesting.

“No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine.”

[RTaylor]

There are a lot of things I've read about but have not yet decided on. There are some things that are just too outlandish for me. And then there are some things that although I do not have a personal knowledge of, they either ring true or are plain to see by the way things are going. Just out of curiousity, how many of these conspiracies (or other scenarios in the case of callout) do you think are probabably or most likely real?

You forgot Nasha, deception in hebrew. Joe Rogan vs Phil Plait. Nothing man made has ever left our atmosphere.

[Durzan]

There are a lot of things I've read about but have not yet decided on. There are some things that are just too outlandish for me. And then there are some things that although I do not have a personal knowledge of, they either ring true or are plain to see by the way things are going. Just out of curiousity, how many of these conspiracies (or other scenarios in the case of callout) do you think are probabably or most likely real?

You forgot Nasha, deception in hebrew. Joe Rogan vs Phil Plait. Nothing man made has ever left our atmosphere.

I had satilite growing up as a kid, and later on we switched to fiber optics. We have traveled above the atmosphere. There are many conspiracies that do exist, but that ain’t one of them. If you want a real conspiracy, look no further than militarization of our police forces.

Many of the conspiracy theories we humans talk about frankly don’t exist at all. The more complicated the theory, the more likely it is that it’s false due to due to humanity’s nature of looking for patterns and connections, even where none really exist. Conspiracies have to small and relatively simple in order to properly function. The more complicated it gets and the more people that get involved, the more likely it is to fail and/or get exposed.

[larsenb]

911 is no conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact. The laws of physics are incontrovertible. The visual proof of WTC7 and all the circumstantial evidence and cover-up all prove the conspiracy. Remember that Mueller was in charge of 911 investigation and guilty of obstruction.

911 is enough all on its own. Once you realize that there are people, sick enough, and powerful enough to pull off such a monstrous production like 911, anything is possible.

Our situation is like the Tower of Babel. God is probably saying, "now nothing can be restrained from them (the conspiracy), which they have imagined to do". Meaning, if the global conspiracy can get the people to build this tower, and convince them that it is in actuality a stargate/bridge into heaven, then they can do to the people and convince the people of anything.

I think with the tower of Babel, it was a nifty way to control population, you just tell people its a gateway into heaven, and who wants to go. Then they pay you for the trip, and you kill them at the top and dispose of the body and tell the family that they are now happy and in heaven and who wants to go next.

The science developed to explain the collapse of the 3 WTC towers consists of scientific 'facts'. Conspiracy theory is speculation as to who was involved in the planning and execution. This won't be totally established until a thorough investigation of who may have been involved is conducted. This has NOT happened yet. Therefore, the conspiratorial end of the 9/11 saga is still theory.

However, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence regarding who was involved. Kevin Ryan has written a book going into this, titled: Another Nineteen - Investigating Legitimate 9/11 Suspects, 2013. Christopher Bollyn has written two books delving into highly probable players largely ignored by Kevin Ryan. His books are: Solving 9/11 - The Deception That Changed the World, 2012; and The War on Terror - The Plot to Rule the Middle East, 2017.

[LukeAir2008]

I'm surprised to see that I believe none of these are conspiracies. For example, I believe that vaccinations are dangerous, but I don't believe a bunch of humans got together to see if they could destroy health and lives. At the same time, I do think the principle has been, and will be, used against people. I do believe in conspiring men (and women), but I think most of what is orchestrated against us, is orchestrated by devils, using humans as their (largely unwitting) pawns.

So when the Bayer corporation sold factor 8 vaccinations to Europe knowing that they contained the HIV virus they didn’t really intend to kill anyone. Is that what you’re saying?

[RTaylor]

There are a lot of things I've read about but have not yet decided on. There are some things that are just too outlandish for me. And then there are some things that although I do not have a personal knowledge of, they either ring true or are plain to see by the way things are going. Just out of curiousity, how many of these conspiracies (or other scenarios in the case of callout) do you think are probabably or most likely real?

You forgot Nasha, deception in hebrew. Joe Rogan vs Phil Plait. Nothing man made has ever left our atmosphere.

I had satilite growing up as a kid, and later on we switched to fiber optics. We have traveled above the atmosphere. There are many conspiracies that do exist, but that ain’t one of them. If you want a real conspiracy, look no further than militarization of our police forces.

Many of the conspiracy theories we humans talk about frankly don’t exist at all. The more complicated the theory, the more likely it is that it’s false due to due to humanity’s nature of looking for patterns and connections, even where none really exist. Conspiracies have to small and relatively simple in order to properly function. The more complicated it gets and the more people that get involved, the more likely it is to fail and/or get exposed.

It is one of the more obvious deceptions. But it is hard to break through the years of brainwashing, trust me I know. Though of course your one sided bias > actually looking into it with an open mind.

I knew this was wrong as a young child but thought maybe there's something I'm missing that they know about to explain propulsion. Nothing in space = nothing to push against for propulsion.

It took me 8 years to accept this truth. I will never again reject truth in such an arrogant manner.

Most conspiracies are at least partially true if not completely true.

What are secret societies good at? Answer : keeping secrets. Vast majority are professed Masons, how many keep that to themselves?

[Juliet]

Only 10 percent believe in mk uktra? There are published documents proving it.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation

Has nobody ever seen a hypnotist?

Most conspiracies have truth in them except the flat Earth conspiracy. That had to be thrown in there so that at least one of them would be false.

[abijah]

Only 10 percent believe in mk uktra? There are published documents proving it.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation

Has nobody ever seen a hypnotist?

Most conspiracies have truth in them except the flat Earth conspiracy. That had to be thrown in there so that at least one of them would be false.

what is “mk ultra”? i’ve seen the phrase around but i don’t know what it means.

i agree about conspiracies. most of them, in my view, are grains of truth which are embellished and extrapolated upon by man. i think the flat earth craze is satan’s attempt to discredit hollow-earth notions, which i personally believe to have a lot of truth in them, which i believe to be relevant in the last days.

[Durzan]

There are a lot of things I've read about but have not yet decided on. There are some things that are just too outlandish for me. And then there are some things that although I do not have a personal knowledge of, they either ring true or are plain to see by the way things are going. Just out of curiousity, how many of these conspiracies (or other scenarios in the case of callout) do you think are probabably or most likely real?

You forgot Nasha, deception in hebrew. Joe Rogan vs Phil Plait. Nothing man made has ever left our atmosphere.

I had satilite growing up as a kid, and later on we switched to fiber optics. We have traveled above the atmosphere. There are many conspiracies that do exist, but that ain’t one of them. If you want a real conspiracy, look no further than militarization of our police forces.

Many of the conspiracy theories we humans talk about frankly don’t exist at all. The more complicated the theory, the more likely it is that it’s false due to due to humanity’s nature of looking for patterns and connections, even where none really exist. Conspiracies have to small and relatively simple in order to properly function. The more complicated it gets and the more people that get involved, the more likely it is to fail and/or get exposed.

It is one of the more obvious deceptions. Though of course your one sided bias > actually looking into it with an open mind.

I knew this was wrong as a young child. Nothing in space = nothing to push against for propulsion.

Hogwash. Just because it felt wrong to you, doesn't mean that such is actually the case. What it does mean is that on some level you failed to grasp and understand the concepts and science involved.

Satellite physics is not that complicated to understand in the most general sense, as its basic newtonian physics. It ain't rocket science... uh, well, technically it is... bad use of the expression . However, Rocket Science is only complicated because actually getting a rocket to leave Earth's atmosphere (and make it back) in one piece requires a lot of time and prep-work, both in math,in engineering, and so forth. If you break it down into pieces, you will find that each piece is actually fairly simple to understand, but that is beside the point.

So, let us review the Newton's 3 Laws of Motion:

1. An object at rest will stay at rest, and an object in motion will stay in motion, unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. In other words, you must apply force in order to initiate or halt movement. An object will not move unless a force sufficient to move it is applied; likewise, an object will continue moving in a straight line at a uniform speed unless a enough force is applied to it to alter or overcome said movement.
2. "The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma. Acceleration and force are vectors (as indicated by their symbols being displayed in slant bold font); in this law the direction of the force vector is the same as the direction of the acceleration vector." It is worth noting that acceleration is the average change in Velocity (speed in a specific direction) So, we can rewrite F= m x dV.
3. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Alright, you got that? Good, cause all three laws apply.

Friction is a force. In space, there is no friction caused by air or water, so once you get something moving, it will stay moving in a straight line unless acted upon by another force. This means that all we gotta do is get something moving to begin with in space, and nothing will slow it down.

To get something moving in space, increase or decrease its speed, or change its direction, you gotta apply force. However, as you so aptly pointed out earlier, there is nothing to push off of in space. That means you have to bring your propulsion with you. This is what Rocket Fuel is for. Burn the rocket fuel (which comes with oxidizer as stuff doesn't burn in space without oxygen) in a closed container, which creates a force through an explosion that is directed out the exhaust pipes, taking the leftover C02 and Water Vapor with it as fumes. Because of newton's third law, flinging material out the back of the rocket causes the ship to accelerate forward at a faster rate. However, in order to actually make it move significantly, you need to apply a certain amount of force in order to get it to accelerate. Luckily, in space, even just a little bit of force applied consistently over a long period of time can lead to a significant increase of speed.

What about gravity? Gravity is actually your friend when you are trying to orbit. You see, its applying a force on you to bring you down towards the earth. All orbiting is really is literally throwing yourself at the ground and missing it. All you need to do is to have a certain amount of velocity parallel to the surface of the earth, and you are in orbit. The gravity of the earth will pull you down, but since your horizontal velocity is greater than the acceleration given from gravity, you don't actually reenter the atmosphere. Instead, that straight line of movement gained from newton's first law curves around the planet forming an elliptical path... an orbit.

Theoretically, you could do this in the atmosphere, but your orbit would decay rapidly over time as air friction applies a force that would slow you down. This is why orbiting is only practical outside the atmosphere of a planet.

Boom. Simple. And I didn't even have to pull out my calculator.

[moving2zion]

My favorites weren't listed.

I believe there are socialists in the country who are determined to continue to erode our capitalist foundations to redistribute wealth to the poor and lazy (both individuals and companies), whose votes they buy with all the various forms of welfare (individual and corporate). I don't believe they'll stop until they've restricted our economic choices down to nearly zero, which will bring our nation to its knees. Ezra Taft Benson warned us of this very thing.

For the most part though, I believe there are lots of smaller groups of individuals acting to take away the freedoms of others for their own gain. You see this through gun control, trial lawyers, etc.

Gaz, here's something we can agree on.

On the mark.

[Original_Intent]

Only 10 percent believe in mk uktra? There are published documents proving it.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation

Has nobody ever seen a hypnotist?

Most conspiracies have truth in them except the flat Earth conspiracy. That had to be thrown in there so that at least one of them would be false.

what is “mk ultra”? i’ve seen the phrase around but i don’t know what it means.

i agree about conspiracies. most of them, in my view, are grains of truth which are embellished and extrapolated upon by man. i think the flat earth craze is satan’s attempt to discredit hollow-earth notions, which i personally believe to have a lot of truth in them, which i believe to be relevant in the last days.

regarding MK Ultra, Google is your friend. In short it is a mind control (Mind Kontrolle) program of the CIA.

As far as conspiracies go, I just watched this. It's pretty good but also jarring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyFNsNZhSeg

[RTaylor]

You forgot Nasha, deception in hebrew. Joe Rogan vs Phil Plait. Nothing man made has ever left our atmosphere.

I had satilite growing up as a kid, and later on we switched to fiber optics. We have traveled above the atmosphere. There are many conspiracies that do exist, but that ain’t one of them. If you want a real conspiracy, look no further than militarization of our police forces.

Many of the conspiracy theories we humans talk about frankly don’t exist at all. The more complicated the theory, the more likely it is that it’s false due to due to humanity’s nature of looking for patterns and connections, even where none really exist. Conspiracies have to small and relatively simple in order to properly function. The more complicated it gets and the more people that get involved, the more likely it is to fail and/or get exposed.

It is one of the more obvious deceptions. Though of course your one sided bias > actually looking into it with an open mind.

I knew this was wrong as a young child. Nothing in space = nothing to push against for propulsion.

Hogwash. Just because it felt wrong to you, doesn't mean that such is actually the case. What it does mean is that on some level you failed to grasp and understand the concepts and science FICTION involved.

Satellite physics is not that complicated to understand in the most general sense, as its basic newtonian physics. It ain't rocket science... uh, well, technically it is... bad use of the expression . However, Rocket Science is only complicated because actually getting a rocket to leave Earth's atmosphere (and make it back) in one piece requires a lot of time and prep-work, both in math,in engineering, and so forth. If you break it down into pieces, you will find that each piece is actually fairly simple to understand, but that is beside the point.

So, let us review the Newton's 3 Laws of Motion:

1. An object at rest will stay at rest, and an object in motion will stay in motion, unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. In other words, you must apply force in order to initiate or halt movement. An object will not move unless a force sufficient to move it is applied; likewise, an object will continue moving in a straight line at a uniform speed unless a enough force is applied to it to alter or overcome said movement.
2. "The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma. Acceleration and force are vectors (as indicated by their symbols being displayed in slant bold font); in this law the direction of the force vector is the same as the direction of the acceleration vector." It is worth noting that acceleration is the average change in Velocity (speed in a specific direction) So, we can rewrite F= m x dV.
3. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Alright, you got that? Good, cause all three laws apply.

Friction is a force. In space, there is no friction caused by air or water, so once you get something moving, it will stay moving in a straight line unless acted upon by another force. This means that all we gotta do is get something moving to begin with in space, and nothing will slow it down.

To get something moving in space, increase or decrease its speed, or change its direction, you gotta apply force. However, as you so aptly pointed out earlier, there is nothing to push off of in space. That means you have to bring your propulsion with you. This is what Rocket Fuel is for. Burn the rocket fuel (which comes with oxidizer as stuff doesn't burn in space without oxygen) in a closed container, which creates a force through an explosion that is directed out the exhaust pipes, taking the leftover C02 and Water Vapor with it as fumes. Because of newton's third law, flinging material out the back of the rocket causes the ship to accelerate forward at a faster rate. However, in order to actually make it move significantly, you need to apply a certain amount of force in order to get it to accelerate. Luckily, in space, even just a little bit of force applied consistently over a long period of time can lead to a significant increase of speed.

What about gravity? Gravity is actually your friend when you are trying to orbit. You see, its applying a force on you to bring you down towards the earth. All orbiting is really is literally throwing yourself at the ground and missing it. All you need to do is to have a certain amount of velocity parallel to the surface of the earth, and you are in orbit. The gravity of the earth will pull you down, but since your horizontal velocity is greater than the acceleration given from gravity, you don't actually reenter the atmosphere. Instead, that straight line of movement gained from newton's first law curves around the planet forming an elliptical path... an orbit.

Theoretically, you could do this in the atmosphere, but your orbit would decay rapidly over time as air friction applies a force that would slow you down. This is why orbiting is only practical outside the atmosphere of a planet.

Boom. Simple. And I didn't even have to pull out my calculator.

/golf clap

And yet you are wrong, I mean hopelessly brainwashed, and will never see how foolish your reply is, was, and forever will be.

Nice, science fiction aficionado?

I guess you're right, we put a trashcan into space, using special ultra magical rocket fuel, that works in a vacuum. With our advanced 1960s remote control tech to videotape it live. All while earth hurls through space(which is made up, we don't know what's out there) at 66.6 thousand miles per hour. We decided it was that fast because we're satan worshipers, I mean masons, ie Gadiantons. Went through a wormhole to avoid the van Allen belts, because we forgot you can't pass through them. Something NASA admits to on video, today, you can look it up. To take ONLY two complete pictures of Earth(ALL the rest are artists renderings), yeah that's right, according to NASA. Both a perfect circle, which Neil DeGrasse Tyson, admits is "pear shaped" on video. I'm not even listing the good ones.

You obviously didn't watch the Joe Rogan vs Phil Plait debate, or maybe you did but were afraid to leave the herd.

[Juliet]

Only 10 percent believe in mk uktra? There are published documents proving it.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation

Has nobody ever seen a hypnotist?

Most conspiracies have truth in them except the flat Earth conspiracy. That had to be thrown in there so that at least one of them would be false.

what is “mk ultra”? i’ve seen the phrase around but i don’t know what it means.

i agree about conspiracies. most of them, in my view, are grains of truth which are embellished and extrapolated upon by man. i think the flat earth craze is satan’s attempt to discredit hollow-earth notions, which i personally believe to have a lot of truth in them, which i believe to be relevant in the last days.

I like the hollow Earth reports as well.

Check out the link for the government docs on truama based mind control projects such as mk ultra, paperclip, artichoke, bluebeam, etc.

Basically the Nazis were doing experiments to control behavior by using truama to cause near death. Then the Nazis were brought here and our government continued the research. By taking a child to near death through truama, the part where they begin to leave their body allows a window where they can be programmed to do something under hypnosis and given a "secret combination" to trigger them to open up that program and obey the hypnotic code that was placed in during the truama. Hence you can have sex slaves, spies, and assassin's that will follow the command based on a trigger, and after accomplishing it, they will not remember what they have done because of the strong association of the event with pain.

No worries because even if the pain does surface and the person does figure out they were abused; you just have to call them paranoid schizophrenics and send them back to the mental hospital to get reprogrammed.

Also satanic cults have been doing similar type rituals for generations.

[Seeking Truth]

I voted for 9/11 conspiracy, I don’t necessarily think they planned it but I think the government knew about it or enough about it to stop it and chose not to. They did the same thing with the sinking of the Lusitania in WW II.

[mmm..cheese]

I said none of them. I do believe there are secret government operations that would blow our minds, but these are not the operations that are on that list. We know from history that secrecy in governments is entirely normal and definitely inspires the imagination. Who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall in some of these government meetings?

[Original_Intent]

I said none of them. I do believe there are secret government operations that would blow our minds, but these are not the operations that are on that list. We know from history that secrecy in governments is entirely normal and definitely inspires the imagination. Who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall in some of these government meetings?

Pity you don't believe about MK Ultra, since that's completely documented and not even a secret any more.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 00150005-5

(Yes, that's the for real CIA website with documents released in 2006)

[Durzan]

I said none of them. I do believe there are secret government operations that would blow our minds, but these are not the operations that are on that list. We know from history that secrecy in governments is entirely normal and definitely inspires the imagination. Who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall in some of these government meetings?

Pity you don't believe about MK Ultra, since that's completely documented and not even a secret any more.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 00150005-5

(Yes, that's the for real CIA website with documents released in 2006)

Then why the heck is it still on the Poll? By definition, MK Ultra isn't a conspiracy theory anymore if its been confirmed and outed; its a conspiracy fact! Perhaps the MK Ultra conspiracy theory has more to postulate than simply the fact that mind-control testing existed? Perhaps the theorists belief they are using said research to brainwash us and control our minds!

[mmm..cheese]

I said none of them. I do believe there are secret government operations that would blow our minds, but these are not the operations that are on that list. We know from history that secrecy in governments is entirely normal and definitely inspires the imagination. Who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall in some of these government meetings?

Pity you don't believe about MK Ultra, since that's completely documented and not even a secret any more.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 00150005-5

(Yes, that's the for real CIA website with documents released in 2006)

I did not even know what it was so I just assumed it was bad. I know what all of the other ones are (if I remember correctly) and I'd say there are "bad."

I do believe the one of the NWO is possible, but I am not against a good version of a NWO. Capitalistic, largely governed by the United States. There is already a form of it (the United Nations) but I would not mind something stronger that would allow more security for global affairs and that would prevent the rise of any foreign power from ever occurring. It would also include the United States not giving up any power, but instead gaining power from the whole ordeal. and microchips.. microchips in everyone.

[Crackers]

I support the conspiracy theory that LSDFF is being overtaken by stealth, anti-mormon posters. JK

[Silver Pie]

So when the Bayer corporation sold factor 8 vaccinations to Europe knowing that they contained the HIV virus they didn’t really intend to kill anyone. Is that what you’re saying?

Recently, I read a book called the Big Fat Surprise, so I'd have to say I have changed my mind to believe that there are conspiracies created so that people can get more and more money - or to push the agenda of what they have decided is right, no matter how many things prove they are wrong.

As for what you mentioned above, I know nothing about that. If they did this, it was despicable and if they said they didn't intend to kill anyone (and said it sincerely), they did a lot of mental gymnastics to attempt to make that statement true.