American Left = Fascists = Nazis

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Dinesh D'Souza is a conservative book writer and movie maker and is best known for his work: Obama's America, and Hillary's America. He recently finished his new book and movie: Death of a Nation. Since I don't read books and I don't go to theaters, I watched his youtube video where he talks about the content from his latest book.

It's a long video so here's the gist of it:

• Every single one of the 4 MILLION slaves were owned by democrats.
  Democrats started and ran the KKK after the civil war.
  The black vote switched to democrat in the 1930's to get the benefits of FDR's new deal.
  Democrats have always been obsessed with race

• Fascism started with Mussolini in the 1920's in Italy.
  Mussolini recognized that FDR had a lot in common with him, and FDR liked Mussolini too.
  Fascists are different than socialists. Socialists want the government to take over and run businesses; Fascists want the people to run the businesses, but they want the government to regulate how the businesses are run and take the profits from the businesses.
  He gives examples of how Obama's policies were Fascist policies

• Nazi Germany learned from the American Democrats about oppressing people, they simply took democratic policies and replaced the oppressed from "black people" to "Jewish".
  Democrats recognized that the Nazis were the same as American Democrats, so they rewrote history so that they wouldn't be associated with the Nazi's.

So, if you believe that there will be a 2nd civil war in America, well, based on this history it is easy to see what the far left democrats are capable of. Can anyone debunk this history? What are your thoughts about how this history will shape our future?

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Hillary Clinton essentially calling for a civil war today on CNN:

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https://youtu.be/OxHBUtqbMcc

Dinesh D'Souza is a conservative book writer and movie maker and is best known for his work: Obama's America, and Hillary's America. He recently finished his new book and movie: Death of a Nation. Since I don't read books and I don't go to theaters, I watched his youtube video where he talks about the content from his latest book.

It's a long video so here's the gist of it:

• Every single one of the 4 MILLION slaves were owned by democrats.
  Democrats started and ran the KKK after the civil war.
  The black vote switched to democrat in the 1930's to get the benefits of FDR's new deal.
  Democrats have always been obsessed with race

Democrats of today are not the same as democrats of the 19th century. Bad history to try to make that a seamless connection.

• Fascism started with Mussolini in the 1920's in Italy.
  Mussolini recognized that FDR had a lot in common with him, and FDR liked Mussolini too.
  Fascists are different than socialists. Socialists want the government to take over and run businesses; Fascists want the people to run the businesses, but they want the government to regulate how the businesses are run and take the profits from the businesses.
  He gives examples of how Obama's policies were Fascist policies

Focusing of Obama's fascist policies is quite narrow minded. The stupid party (GOP) is just as guilty.

• Nazi Germany learned from the American Democrats about oppressing people, they simply took democratic policies and replaced the oppressed from "black people" to "Jewish".
  Democrats recognized that the Nazis were the same as American Democrats, so they rewrote history so that they wouldn't be associated with the Nazi's.

Hitler was against federalism (states rights) and for a centralized state. It was necessary to suppress self government in order to usher in the Reich. Very Lincoln-esque, (who was a republican by the way, that chose to wage war on fellow americans, not a civil war mind you, southerners had no interest taking over the existing government)

So, if you believe that there will be a 2nd civil war in America, well, based on this history it is easy to see what the far left democrats are capable of. Can anyone debunk this history? What are your thoughts about how this history will shape our future?

I'd say the democrats are pulling from the playbook of the old radical republicans, that is the forcing of culture and opinions on others. It is an old problem, "The Yankee Problem" as historian Clyde Wilson opines.

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Hillary Clinton essentially calling for a civil war today on CNN:

I agree that Hillary's comments were disturbing and dangerous. She is basically saying that antifa (just like the KKK in the past) is a good and needed method of getting their way. Everyone in the MSM is already giving antifa a pass, but there is a huge difference between turning a blind eye and showing support for that kind of behavior.

President Oaks in his talk last April called "Small and Simple Things" taught that we should be kind and civil. The leader of the left, Hillary Clinton, is advocating for people to behave in the opposite way that the Lord would have us behave.

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https://youtu.be/OxHBUtqbMcc

Dinesh D'Souza is a conservative book writer and movie maker and is best known for his work: Obama's America, and Hillary's America. He recently finished his new book and movie: Death of a Nation. Since I don't read books and I don't go to theaters, I watched his youtube video where he talks about the content from his latest book.

It's a long video so here's the gist of it:

• Every single one of the 4 MILLION slaves were owned by democrats.
  Democrats started and ran the KKK after the civil war.
  The black vote switched to democrat in the 1930's to get the benefits of FDR's new deal.
  Democrats have always been obsessed with race

Democrats of today are not the same as democrats of the 19th century. Bad history to try to make that a seamless connection.

Thank you for you input, this is a topic that I want to learn more about which is one of the main reasons why I posted this. About your point here, from my point of view the democrats are largely the same. Divide the people. Segregate people by classes. "you work, I eat" mentality. The means justify the end goal.
Currently people are not in physical chains, but the current conditions for blacks in democratically controlled inner cities still shares 5 primary characteristics of the plantations:

• Broken down and dilapidated and unsafe housing.

• Broken families.

• A high degree of violence required in order to hold the place together.

• Everybody gets a basic provision, but nobody gets ahead.

• Nihilism and despair. This is an intergenerational, ongoing, lasting way of life.

So for these reasons I don't think the democrats are too much different than their past. Also, the 1950's and 60's weren't that long ago, the leaders then were the mentors of the democratic leaders of today, so I think this history is relevant to shaping who the democrats are today.

• Fascism started with Mussolini in the 1920's in Italy.
  Mussolini recognized that FDR had a lot in common with him, and FDR liked Mussolini too.
  Fascists are different than socialists. Socialists want the government to take over and run businesses; Fascists want the people to run the businesses, but they want the government to regulate how the businesses are run and take the profits from the businesses.
  He gives examples of how Obama's policies were Fascist policies

Focusing of Obama's fascist policies is quite narrow minded. The stupid party (GOP) is just as guilty.

You make an excellent point. There are certainly corrupt, stupid, and progressive members of the GOP. The examples given by D'souza from the Obama regime include economic fascism such as gov't control of banks, the investment sector, energy industry, health care, he fired the head of general motors. A few examples of Obama's fascist tactics included imprisoning Dinesh D'souza, wire tapping political opponents, using the DOJ to insight violence against the police, the FBI cover up for Hillary Clinton, and sending using the IRS to audit enemies. We are finding out more and more regularly how high ranking gov't officials that were placed their under the Obama regime are undermining our president and democracy.

• Nazi Germany learned from the American Democrats about oppressing people, they simply took democratic policies and replaced the oppressed from "black people" to "Jewish".
  Democrats recognized that the Nazis were the same as American Democrats, so they rewrote history so that they wouldn't be associated with the Nazi's.

Hitler was against federalism (states rights) and for a centralized state. It was necessary to suppress self government in order to usher in the Reich. Very Lincoln-esque, (who was a republican by the way, that chose to wage war on fellow americans, not a civil war mind you, southerners had no interest taking over the existing government)

Dinesh's commentary about the Nazi's focused on how the tactics they used to segregate the Jews were taken from the Democratic playbook. And how their taking of land mirrored Andrew Jacksons model for pushing out the Indians.

I think it's an interesting view point to say that Lincoln "waged war on fellow Americans". I think most people today revere Lincoln for the stand he took. I would be hard pressed to follow you down that path since I believe he stood for the human rights of the blacks and fought to free them at all costs. Dinesh also discusses Lincoln's balance between state rights and federal rights towards the end of the video in the Q&A.


So, if you believe that there will be a 2nd civil war in America, well, based on this history it is easy to see what the far left democrats are capable of. Can anyone debunk this history? What are your thoughts about how this history will shape our future?

I'd say the democrats are pulling from the playbook of the old radical republicans, that is the forcing of culture and opinions on others. It is an old problem, "The Yankee Problem" as historian Clyde Wilson opines.

I completely agree that the democrats are pushing their morals onto others against their will. With their domination in MSM, Hollywood, and big tech the culture shifts happen before the debate even comes to the table.

[4Zion]

I have to disagree with that statement. Up until Trump was chosen as our nominee, I voted 100% Republican in every election. But, I think the mess that exists between liberals and conservatives is our own fault.

Most Republicans are Christians... I think that's a given. True Christians are under commandment to treat our enemies with love and compassion. But, instead, we are judgmental, unkind, and work to pass laws forcing them to follow our moral standards. In my opinion this is Satan's plan. We've allowed ourselves to become tools for denying them their free agency. And even though they may not have a conscious understanding of what that means, their spirit remembers. Just like us, they fought the war in heaven for the right to choose good or evil. And when that choice is taken from them, they will instinctively fight to reclaim it.

If our conduct was truly Christian, we would love our enemies. We would bless those that curse us. We would do good to those who hate us. We would pray for those who despitefully use us and those who persecute us. (Matthew 5:44)

Love begets love. Unfortunately for us, our hate has begat hate. And until we rediscover who we are and start coming from a place of love, we are no better than those we persecute and this enmity will never end.

I completely agree that the democrats are pushing their morals onto others against their will. With their domination in MSM, Hollywood, and big tech the culture shifts happen before the debate even comes to the table.

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I have to disagree with that statement. Up until Trump was chosen as our nominee, I voted 100% Republican in every election. But, I think the mess that exists between liberals and conservatives is our own fault.

Most Republicans are Christians... I think that's a given. True Christians are under commandment to treat our enemies with love and compassion. But, instead, we are judgmental, unkind, and work to pass laws forcing them to follow our moral standards. In my opinion this is Satan's plan. We've allowed ourselves to become tools for denying them their free agency. And even though they may not have a conscious understanding of what that means, their spirit remembers. Just like us, they fought the war in heaven for the right to choose good or evil. And when that choice is taken from them, they will instinctively fight to reclaim it.

If our conduct was truly Christian, we would love our enemies. We would bless those that curse us. We would do good to those who hate us. We would pray for those who despitefully use us and those who persecute us. (Matthew 5:44)

Love begets love. Unfortunately for us, our hate has begat hate. And until we rediscover who we are and start coming from a place of love, we are no better than those we persecute and this enmity will never end.

I completely agree that the democrats are pushing their morals onto others against their will. With their domination in MSM, Hollywood, and big tech the culture shifts happen before the debate even comes to the table.

I think that you are spot on when you say there is too much hate in this world. Others certainly can do better about hating the sin and loving the sinner (I personally don't have this problem). I don't agree that advocating for your morals equates to hating those who disagree or hating those who are doing the thing you are advocating against.

The point that I was making is that the left largely owns academia, the media, the comedians, the musicians, the movies, sitcoms/ tv shows, the news, and the mediums of finding information online. They can promote homosexuality, or broken families, etc for 20 years through these outlets before it comes to the political arena, at which point the cultural shift has already occurred. The lie has already been sold, and at this point it is very difficult to make an argument for an opposing view, and there's not much of a platform to even make the argument on so the masses will listen.

[4Zion]

I agree that advocating for our morals is important. But, I also believe we should be advocating our morals to those we have stewardship over. IE ourselves... our children... and those we may preside over in the church

Think how we feel when someone tries to push their immoral agenda on us. We resent it! And rightly so! It doesn't change our opinion. We entrench ourselves and become more determined to resist them!

And the reverse is also true. When we try to push our morals on them, they resent us. They push back and become more determined to engage in their sinful behavior.

If we truly want to be of service to those who have fallen away, we have to approach them from a place of love not judgement or disgust. And, forgive me for saying so, but I think "Love the sinner but hate the sin" is a judgmental comment in itself. (And I truly don't mean that as a personal attack... it's just a pet peeve of mine) It's not our place to judge whether or not their actions are a sin or not. We don't know the motivations within their heart. We don't know the root causes of their actions. We don't know Heavenly Father's plan for them.

I have two very dear friends who engage in lifestyles that make me uncomfortable. They are good people with good hearts who've been taught philosophies of life which I disagree with. But they aren't evil people and they certainly aren't Nazis. They are lost souls doing the best they can with the knowledge they've been given. The greatest gift I can give them is my friendship. Through our friendship, I can do my best to be an example. I can be available to them when occasions arrive where they reach out to me for a little light. If I behaved smugly toward them or was judgmental, they wouldn't want to be around me and I would be unable to serve them.

I have to disagree with that statement. Up until Trump was chosen as our nominee, I voted 100% Republican in every election. But, I think the mess that exists between liberals and conservatives is our own fault.

Most Republicans are Christians... I think that's a given. True Christians are under commandment to treat our enemies with love and compassion. But, instead, we are judgmental, unkind, and work to pass laws forcing them to follow our moral standards. In my opinion this is Satan's plan. We've allowed ourselves to become tools for denying them their free agency. And even though they may not have a conscious understanding of what that means, their spirit remembers. Just like us, they fought the war in heaven for the right to choose good or evil. And when that choice is taken from them, they will instinctively fight to reclaim it.

If our conduct was truly Christian, we would love our enemies. We would bless those that curse us. We would do good to those who hate us. We would pray for those who despitefully use us and those who persecute us. (Matthew 5:44)

Love begets love. Unfortunately for us, our hate has begat hate. And until we rediscover who we are and start coming from a place of love, we are no better than those we persecute and this enmity will never end.

I completely agree that the democrats are pushing their morals onto others against their will. With their domination in MSM, Hollywood, and big tech the culture shifts happen before the debate even comes to the table.

I think that you are spot on when you say there is too much hate in this world. Others certainly can do better about hating the sin and loving the sinner (I personally don't have this problem). I don't agree that advocating for your morals equates to hating those who disagree or hating those who are doing the thing you are advocating against.

The point that I was making is that the left largely owns academia, the media, the comedians, the musicians, the movies, sitcoms/ tv shows, the news, and the mediums of finding information online. They can promote homosexuality, or broken families, etc for 20 years through these outlets before it comes to the political arena, at which point the cultural shift has already occurred. The lie has already been sold, and at this point it is very difficult to make an argument for an opposing view, and there's not much of a platform to even make the argument on so the masses will listen.

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I agree that advocating for our morals is important. But, I also believe we should be advocating our morals to those we have stewardship over. IE ourselves... our children... and those we may preside over in the church

Think how we feel when someone tries to push their immoral agenda on us. We resent it! And rightly so! It doesn't change our opinion. We entrench ourselves and become more determined to resist them!

And the reverse is also true. When we try to push our morals on them, they resent us. They push back and become more determined to engage in their sinful behavior.

If we truly want to be of service to those who have fallen away, we have to approach them from a place of love not judgement or disgust. And, forgive me for saying so, but I think "Love the sinner but hate the sin" is a judgmental comment in itself. (And I truly don't mean that as a personal attack... it's just a pet peeve of mine) It's not our place to judge whether or not their actions are a sin or not. We don't know the motivations within their heart. We don't know the root causes of their actions. We don't know Heavenly Father's plan for them.

I have two very dear friends who engage in lifestyles that make me uncomfortable. They are good people with good hearts who've been taught philosophies of life which I disagree with. But they aren't evil people and they certainly aren't Nazis. They are lost souls doing the best they can with the knowledge they've been given. The greatest gift I can give them is my friendship. Through our friendship, I can do my best to be an example. I can be available to them when occasions arrive where they reach out to me for a little light. If I behaved smugly toward them or was judgmental, they wouldn't want to be around me and I would be unable to serve them.

Remember that Matthew 10:34-36 says that Christ did not come to bring peace, but a sword to set man against father, etc. I think that we should stand/teach/promote Christ and His teachings everywhere, even if it causes division.

My heart hurts when I hear about parents shunning a gay son, and I don't think this should ever happen. I don't think that is what Christ taught or wants. But I also don't think that the sinner shouldn't be made aware of the destructive lifestyle their choices are bringing upon themselves and those around them.

I also think that we are shunning the fight when we avoid calling sin for what it is. I agree that there are some gray areas, but there are also things that are evil and sinful that should be condoned by society rather than idly tolerated. We can't simply pray that the wicked will figure out this problems on their own. I'm not sure if you are saying we should give them a pass, or defend our faith with love, but I think we should do the later.

The church advocates it's principles in all kinds of settings, not solely to the members of the church, and I completely agree with their decision to do so.

The subject heading for this post is incendiary and I think it needs some explanation. I don't think that democrats are nazis. The history of the democratic party was racist and fascist, and the nazis used some of their principles to achieve their goals. I do think that this history shapes the democratic party of today, and I do believe that many on the far left are fascists, socialists, communists. I also think that many of them are woefully misinformed by thinking that they are voting for a stance on wedding cakes when really so much more is at stake here. Almost daily we see them drift further and further away from democracy as they promote mob violence and condone due process of law.

[4Zion]

Remember that Matthew 10:34-36 says that Christ did not come to bring peace, but a sword to set man against father, etc. I think that we should stand/teach/promote Christ and His teachings everywhere, even if it causes division.

If you look at the totality of what Christ taught, his message is very clear. The spirit of his message through and through is about treating everyone, including enemies with love and kindness. I often see that scripture quoted by individuals and organizations who want to justify not following that teaching.

As Latter-day Saints, "we believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly." I think it's important to remember that Christ's words were spoken in Aramaic and later written in Greek. And nearly two millennia later, translated into English. I have never taken this passage to mean that his endless admonitions to be loving to each other were null and void. Rather, I think he was prophesying of the trials that would come as a consequence of him establishing the Gospel. He knew the faithful would be rejected and he was encouraging them to remain faithful in spite of the persecutions to come.

But I also don't think that the sinner shouldn't be made aware of the destructive lifestyle their choices are bringing upon themselves and those around them.

I agree. But there is a right way and a wrong way. Are you not more receptive to others when they approach you in a kind manner? Are you not put off by people who treat you rudely? Do you think others are any different?

We can't simply pray that the wicked will figure out this problems on their own. I'm not sure if you are saying we should give them a pass, or defend our faith with love, but I think we should do the later.

I am saying that we live righteous lives and serve as examples of how others can live. I am saying we befriend those who are lost and help guide them home rather than pushing them away. I am saying the latter.

I do believe that many on the far left are fascists, socialists, communists. I also think that many of them are woefully misinformed by thinking that they are voting for a stance on wedding cakes when really so much more is at stake here. Almost daily we see them drift further and further away from democracy as they promote mob violence and condone due process of law.

That comment just breaks my heart. Yes, there are some Democrats who are extreme in their views just like there are some Republicans who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Christians who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Hindus who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Caucasians who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Asians who are extreme in their views. People are just people. We really need to stop painting each other with such broad strokes.

Calling people facists and communists just makes the chasm between us grow. We need to choose our words far more carefully. As long as we are going to spew such hateful rhetoric, we'll never get anywhere.

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When The Enemy Doesn't Hide His Plans Anymore You Should Pay Attention

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Here is the definition of the word fascist by the marriam webster dictionary:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

The left says that trump is a fascist because he is a nationalist. The problem with this argument is that fascists are nationalists, but nationalists aren't always fascists (such as Ghandi).

They also argue that Trump is a racist, but there is no evidence of this, and this argument gets watered down when they also call everyone they disagree with a racist. It's just what they do.

Of course President Trump is not a dictator, and doesn't impose severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. There is no evidence of this anywhere, but there is lots of evidence of the opposite of this. For example, he is critical of the media but he doesn't shut them up or shut them down, he decreases taxes, etc.

The crazy thing is that the "I know you are but what am I" argument works beautifully here.

Before the 1940's the democratic party fits this definition very closely. Unfortunately for them, and fortunately for the USA we had a constitution to hold them at bay. Racists = yes, severe economic regimentation = yes, social regimentation = yes, forcible suppression = yes (https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo).

But what about now. They certainly aren't nationalists, it doesn't appear that they want the USA to bring peace through power, they want the USA to be equals with every other nation.

Are they racists? Race identity plays a huge role in their politics. They use the race card to silence white men. How many times did we hear about the old, white men in the senate giving Brett Kavanaugh a pass because they are all old white men. White men don't have a voice when it comes to abortion and womens issues. Democrats who say this are sexist and racist and bigoted, but probably not fascists.

Do the democrats "stand for a centralized autocratic government"? What about those who want to impeach Trump on nothing more than that they don't like him? They don't agree with the election results and if there isn't a reason to impeach him then they will fabricate a reason to do it. This is scary and smells a little like fascism to me.

Do the democrats create severe economic regimentation? The businesses in California say YES. They are leaving the state by the thousands. https://youtu.be/ISsdSf0tjWM

Do the democrats create social regimentation? Definitely yes. Democrats force conservatives to accept and practice moral views of sexuality, abortion, etc. Conservatives are fired or forced to resign from private companies. There are many examples of this. New examples come out almost weekly.

Do the democrats practice forcible suppression of opposition? Sadly the answer again is yes. Ben Shapiro talked to congress about this. The left's MSM give Antifa and mobs a pass if it furthers their agenda. There are many examples of "guilty until proven innocent" rather than the other way around, and by the time innocence is proven the accused has already been destroyed.
https://youtu.be/BNPixNFusQU

I think that the democratic party of the past and present share many commonalities with the fascists. I think that they are actually guilty of most of what they accuse conservative American's of being. I don't think that most democratic voters recognize this, but I do think that the DNC and MSM have an agenda that closely resembles socialism and fascism.

Like I said in my original post, I actually don't know a lot about this topic, and I would appreciate alternative view points.

[EmmaLee]

Nelson Mandela was a communist and a terrorist. Leftists, of any stripe, are hypocrites - it's their very nature and modus operandi, so you are correct in noticing that they are in fact guilty of what they accuse Trump and conservatives of being. It's a tactic, although you are probably right in that most garden variety democrats living in the cheap seats don't recognize or see this. Fascism, Nazism, Communism, Progressivism, Socialism, Democracy, etc. - they are all slightly different flavors of the same thing, and that 'thing' is no more nor less than Satan's way, his plan, his means to an end (his goal being to enslave the souls of mankind and make them as miserable as he is).

May I suggest the following reading -

The New American magazine (most articles are free online https://www.thenewamerican.com/ )
The Making of America, by Cleon Skousen
The Naked Communist, by Cleon Skousen
The Naked Socialist, by Paul Skousen & Mrs. Cleon Skousen
Any/all books on freedom, government, the Constitution, by Ezra Taft Benson and H. Verlan Anderson

All of the above books can be found used for reasonable prices on Amazon (or maybe in your public library, if you live out west). Good luck.

[larsenb]

. . . . . . . . . . Yes, there are some Democrats who are extreme in their views just like there are some Republicans who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Christians who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Hindus who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Caucasians who are extreme in their views... Just like there are some Asians who are extreme in their views. People are just people. We really need to stop painting each other with such broad strokes.

Calling people facists and communists just makes the chasm between us grow. We need to choose our words far more carefully. As long as we are going to spew such hateful rhetoric, we'll never get anywhere.

In the last few years there are MANY Democrats who are not just extreme in their views, but also in their actions. All you have to do is see the murderous statements coming from so many of their leaders and many celebrities, as well as the green light they are giving for public, uncivil confrontations . . . . coupled with the violent actions and words coming from groups such as Antifa, La Raza, BLM, etc., and just the go-alongs who mingle with them in a multitude of 'demonstrations'.

I don't see these kinds of things coming from 'Republicans' and those who are generally called 'populists'.

And identifying certains attitudes and actions as fascistic and communistic in a general way, especially the violence, and the openly displayed communistic leanings of so many of the 'leftist' demonstrators is simply recognizing reality. That doesn't mean many 'populists' are directly calling leftists these things to their face, unless they get into a discussion with them about what these labels mean.

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Nelson Mandela was a communist and a terrorist. Leftists, of any stripe, are hypocrites - it's their very nature and modus operandi, so you are correct in noticing that they are in fact guilty of what they accuse Trump and conservatives of being. It's a tactic, although you are probably right in that most garden variety democrats living in the cheap seats don't recognize or see this. Fascism, Nazism, Communism, Progressivism, Socialism, Democracy, etc. - they are all slightly different flavors of the same thing, and that 'thing' is no more nor less than Satan's way, his plan, his means to an end (his goal being to enslave the souls of mankind and make them as miserable as he is).

May I suggest the following reading -

The New American magazine (most articles are free online https://www.thenewamerican.com/ )
The Making of America, by Cleon Skousen
The Naked Communist, by Cleon Skousen
The Naked Socialist, by Paul Skousen & Mrs. Cleon Skousen
Any/all books on freedom, government, the Constitution, by Ezra Taft Benson and H. Verlan Anderson

All of the above books can be found used for reasonable prices on Amazon (or maybe in your public library, if you live out west). Good luck.

Thank you for your comments and recommendations. I've edited my post to only show Ghandi as an example of a nationalist that wasn't a fascist. I listened to the 5000 Year Leap by Cleon Skousen several years ago and I thought that it was excellent. I'm sure I would like these others that you recommended as well. Thanks.

[righteousrepublic]

What future? Socialism has all but taken over. The US was responsible for Pearl Harbor.
The US Government during the Vietnam fiasco was providing weapons to the enemy, specifically, the Rockefeller's under Nixon, and the only reason the Rockefeller's weren't charged with treason is because the Vietnam conflict was never declared a war.
911 was orchestrated by our own Government according to local experts in how Nanothermite works.
Our Government went to Honduras in 2009 and wrecked the economy and caused war and chaos...and now they blame the north bound caravan comprised of mostly Hondurans of coming to America?
Cops are demanding ID everywhere from people doing no crime because of suspicion and in the name of safety. Cops are not responsible for our safety nor is suspicion a misdemeanor or a felony, but cops use this BS to intimidate people every day. Americans are treated as guilty until proven innocent.

What ever happened to the real America? And unless the Constitution is put back into action, we have no future...except for what the NWO will allow us.

Those on the left, or those on the right and those in the middle...America is in dire trouble and getting worse every minute.

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I've been sitting on this for a while but haven't gotten around to posting it until now.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... g-cousins/

This article further convinces that Socialism and fascism and communism are closely linked. The article also takes a peek at where we are now in relation to times past. A few excerpts:

In 1939, the same year the Germans and the Russians mutually consented to rape Poland, T.S. Eliot rather famously (or, I suppose for some, infamously) declared: “If you will not have God (and He is a jealous God), you should pay your respects to Hitler or Stalin.” Eliot, of course, could not have been more correct. In 1936, you had three choices: National Socialism, international socialism, or dignity.

In 2018, we find ourselves in similar circumstances, even if they aren’t quite as clear cut as they were in 1936...

Dawson rightly noted that there is no left and no right; there is only man and anti-man. That is, the divide is not horizontal but vertical. “The tactics of totalitarianism,” he wrote, “are to weld every difference of opinion and tradition and every conflict of economic interests into an absolute ideological opposition which disintegrates society into hostile factions bent on destroying one another.” The so-called and false divisions between a left and right, then, are “a perfect god-send to the forces of destruction.” Such a sophomoric notion of left and right becomes a blunt weapon, used to beat any and all opposition, while in actuality separating the human person from the human person, clothing each not in glory but in wretched rags of chaos and deceit. The results, Dawson realized, could only be confusion, disintegration, degradation, violence, inhumanity, hatred, and suspicion, disgracing even “a tribe of cannibals.”...

From T.S. Eliot’s “The Rock”:
But it seems that something has happened that has never happened before:
though we know not just when, or why, or how, or where.
Men have left GOD not for other gods, they say, but for no god; and this has never happened before
That men both deny gods and worship gods, professing first Reason,
And then Money, and Power, and what they call Life, or Race, or Dialectic.
The Church disowned, the tower overthrown, the bells upturned, what have we to do
But stand with empty hands and palms turned upwards
In an age which advances progressively backwards?

[David13]

https://youtu.be/OxHBUtqbMcc

Dinesh D'Souza is a conservative book writer and movie maker and is best known for his work: Obama's America, and Hillary's America. He recently finished his new book and movie: Death of a Nation. Since I don't read books and I don't go to theaters, I watched his youtube video where he talks about the content from his latest book.

It's a long video so here's the gist of it:

• Every single one of the 4 MILLION slaves were owned by democrats.
  Democrats started and ran the KKK after the civil war.
  The black vote switched to democrat in the 1930's to get the benefits of FDR's new deal.
  Democrats have always been obsessed with race

Democrats of today are not the same as democrats of the 19th century. Bad history to try to make that a seamless connection.

Thank you for you input, this is a topic that I want to learn more about which is one of the main reasons why I posted this. About your point here, from my point of view the democrats are largely the same. Divide the people. Segregate people by classes. "you work, I eat" mentality. The means justify the end goal.
Currently people are not in physical chains, but the current conditions for blacks in democratically controlled inner cities still shares 5 primary characteristics of the plantations:

• Broken down and dilapidated and unsafe housing.

• Broken families.

• A high degree of violence required in order to hold the place together.

• Everybody gets a basic provision, but nobody gets ahead.

• Nihilism and despair. This is an intergenerational, ongoing, lasting way of life.

So for these reasons I don't think the democrats are too much different than their past. Also, the 1950's and 60's weren't that long ago, the leaders then were the mentors of the democratic leaders of today, so I think this history is relevant to shaping who the democrats are today.

• Fascism started with Mussolini in the 1920's in Italy.
  Mussolini recognized that FDR had a lot in common with him, and FDR liked Mussolini too.
  Fascists are different than socialists. Socialists want the government to take over and run businesses; Fascists want the people to run the businesses, but they want the government to regulate how the businesses are run and take the profits from the businesses.
  He gives examples of how Obama's policies were Fascist policies

Focusing of Obama's fascist policies is quite narrow minded. The stupid party (GOP) is just as guilty.

You make an excellent point. There are certainly corrupt, stupid, and progressive members of the GOP. The examples given by D'souza from the Obama regime include economic fascism such as gov't control of banks, the investment sector, energy industry, health care, he fired the head of general motors. A few examples of Obama's fascist tactics included imprisoning Dinesh D'souza, wire tapping political opponents, using the DOJ to insight violence against the police, the FBI cover up for Hillary Clinton, and sending using the IRS to audit enemies. We are finding out more and more regularly how high ranking gov't officials that were placed their under the Obama regime are undermining our president and democracy.

• Nazi Germany learned from the American Democrats about oppressing people, they simply took democratic policies and replaced the oppressed from "black people" to "Jewish".
  Democrats recognized that the Nazis were the same as American Democrats, so they rewrote history so that they wouldn't be associated with the Nazi's.

Hitler was against federalism (states rights) and for a centralized state. It was necessary to suppress self government in order to usher in the Reich. Very Lincoln-esque, (who was a republican by the way, that chose to wage war on fellow americans, not a civil war mind you, southerners had no interest taking over the existing government)

Dinesh's commentary about the Nazi's focused on how the tactics they used to segregate the Jews were taken from the Democratic playbook. And how their taking of land mirrored Andrew Jacksons model for pushing out the Indians.

I think it's an interesting view point to say that Lincoln "waged war on fellow Americans". I think most people today revere Lincoln for the stand he took. I would be hard pressed to follow you down that path since I believe he stood for the human rights of the blacks and fought to free them at all costs. Dinesh also discusses Lincoln's balance between state rights and federal rights towards the end of the video in the Q&A.


So, if you believe that there will be a 2nd civil war in America, well, based on this history it is easy to see what the far left democrats are capable of. Can anyone debunk this history? What are your thoughts about how this history will shape our future?

I'd say the democrats are pulling from the playbook of the old radical republicans, that is the forcing of culture and opinions on others. It is an old problem, "The Yankee Problem" as historian Clyde Wilson opines.

I completely agree that the democrats are pushing their morals onto others against their will. With their domination in MSM, Hollywood, and big tech the culture shifts happen before the debate even comes to the table.

No they push their lack of morals. They push their perversion. And yes, I say socialism is a perversion. And a perversion of the gospel which has an essence of self sufficiency to it.
dc

[David13]

I have to disagree with that statement. Up until Trump was chosen as our nominee, I voted 100% Republican in every election. But, I think the mess that exists between liberals and conservatives is our own fault.

Most Republicans are Christians... I think that's a given. True Christians are under commandment to treat our enemies with love and compassion. But, instead, we are judgmental, unkind, and work to pass laws forcing them to follow our moral standards. In my opinion this is Satan's plan. We've allowed ourselves to become tools for denying them their free agency. And even though they may not have a conscious understanding of what that means, their spirit remembers. Just like us, they fought the war in heaven for the right to choose good or evil. And when that choice is taken from them, they will instinctively fight to reclaim it.

If our conduct was truly Christian, we would love our enemies. We would bless those that curse us. We would do good to those who hate us. We would pray for those who despitefully use us and those who persecute us. (Matthew 5:44)

Love begets love. Unfortunately for us, our hate has begat hate. And until we rediscover who we are and start coming from a place of love, we are no better than those we persecute and this enmity will never end.

I completely agree that the democrats are pushing their morals onto others against their will. With their domination in MSM, Hollywood, and big tech the culture shifts happen before the debate even comes to the table.

I think you make a good point. But you don't go with it very far.

If you believe that, then what would be the Republican or Conservative party platform here today?
dc

[JohnnyL]

Dinesh D'Souza is a conservative book writer and movie maker and is best known for his work: Obama's America, and Hillary's America. He recently finished his new book and movie: Death of a Nation. Since I don't read books and I don't go to theaters, I watched his youtube video where he talks about the content from his latest book.

It's a long video so here's the gist of it:

• Every single one of the 4 MILLION slaves were owned by democrats.
  Democrats started and ran the KKK after the civil war.
  The black vote switched to democrat in the 1930's to get the benefits of FDR's new deal.
  Democrats have always been obsessed with race

• Fascism started with Mussolini in the 1920's in Italy.
  Mussolini recognized that FDR had a lot in common with him, and FDR liked Mussolini too.
  Fascists are different than socialists. Socialists want the government to take over and run businesses; Fascists want the people to run the businesses, but they want the government to regulate how the businesses are run and take the profits from the businesses.
  He gives examples of how Obama's policies were Fascist policies

• Nazi Germany learned from the American Democrats about oppressing people, they simply took democratic policies and replaced the oppressed from "black people" to "Jewish".
  Democrats recognized that the Nazis were the same as American Democrats, so they rewrote history so that they wouldn't be associated with the Nazi's.

So, if you believe that there will be a 2nd civil war in America, well, based on this history it is easy to see what the far left democrats are capable of. Can anyone debunk this history? What are your thoughts about how this history will shape our future?

Yes, people have debunked this history.
If you used "communists" instead of "Nazis", it would fit perfectly.