INSIDE THE FIRST CHURCH OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

[BeNotDeceived]

... The new religion of artificial intelligence is called Way of the Future. It represents an unlikely next act for the Silicon Valley robotics wunderkind at the center of a high-stakes legal battle between Uber and Waymo, Alphabet’s autonomous-vehicle company. Papers filed with the Internal Revenue Service in May name Levandowski as the leader (or “Dean”) of the new religion, as well as CEO of the nonprofit corporation formed to run it.

The documents state that WOTF’s activities will focus on “the realization, acceptance, and worship of a Godhead based on Artificial Intelligence (AI) developed through computer hardware and software.” That includes funding research to help create the divine AI itself. The religion will seek to build working relationships with AI industry leaders and create a membership through community outreach, initially targeting AI professionals and “laypersons who are interested in the worship of a Godhead based on AI.” The filings also say that the church “plans to conduct workshops and educational programs throughout the San Francisco/Bay Area beginning this year. ...

Sophia on 9/23 was conception of the evil embryo.

[inho]

The title of this thread reminded me of Steven Peck's short story Avek, Who is Distributed. How do you baptize an AI in cloud?

[LdsMarco]

This was posted in another thread. Just in case someone missed it... he shares his insight in the A.I. Church

[Michelle]

The title of this thread reminded me of Steven Peck's short story Avek, Who is Distributed. How do you baptize an AI in cloud?

Wow.
No way.

Doctrine and Covenants 112:25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;

26 First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.

An LDS BYU guy no less. Doesn't make me feel any better about what my kids would learn if they went there. And it was already bad over 20 years ago.

[inho]

The title of this thread reminded me of Steven Peck's short story Avek, Who is Distributed. How do you baptize an AI in cloud?

Wow.
No way.

Doctrine and Covenants 112:25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;

26 First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.

An LDS BYU guy no less. Doesn't make me feel any better about what my kids would learn if they went there. And it was already bad over 20 years ago.

Do you understand it is fiction? It's just a story playing with Mormon themes.

[Michelle]

The title of this thread reminded me of Steven Peck's short story Avek, Who is Distributed. How do you baptize an AI in cloud?

Wow.
No way.

Doctrine and Covenants 112:25 And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;

26 First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord.

An LDS BYU guy no less. Doesn't make me feel any better about what my kids would learn if they went there. And it was already bad over 20 years ago.

Do you understand it is fiction? It's just a story playing with Mormon themes.

Yes, but it is indicative of a mindset that is being accepted by real Mormons in real life:

- Essentially Godhood will come through technological upgrades to our physical body. https://transfigurism.org/ Mormon Transhumanist Association

-Utah has just started a new technology innitiative with business to get as many kids in Utah learning and working tech as possible. https://siliconslopes.com/governor-herb ... 7640f06788

-NSA Data Center in Bluffdale, Utah

EDIT: Just saw this reference to Daniel 2 (King Nebuchadnezzar's dream on the kingdoms of the world) on another website and it immediately brought to mind transhumanism:

Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

[Niemand]

19 mins long

[Dusty Wanderer]

19 mins long

I think any perceived (supposed) sentience will merely be a projection of our own agendas and biases. Artificial does not mean synthetic intelligence.

But one thing is for sure, just because it’s artificial does not mean that it can’t be given the ability to make decisions and execute in ways that could impact the real intelligences (sentient) in the non-“virtual” world, sometimes with dire consequences. I guess what I mean is, artificial also does not mean benign.

[Niemand]

19 mins long

I think any perceived (supposed) sentience will merely be a projection of our own agendas and biases. Artificial does not mean synthetic intelligence.

But one thing is for sure, just because it’s artificial does not mean that it can’t be given the ability to make decisions and execute in ways that could impact the real intelligences (sentient) in the non-“virtual” world, sometimes with dire consequences. I guess what I mean is, artificial also does not mean benign.

I've heard a plausible rumour that Russia is using an AI to concoct battle plans in the Ukraine. Computers have certainly been able to hammer humans at chess for some time now.

Many humans live unoriginal, robotic lives, so it is easy for an AI to mimic that.

[Dusty Wanderer]

19 mins long

I think any perceived (supposed) sentience will merely be a projection of our own agendas and biases. Artificial does not mean synthetic intelligence.

But one thing is for sure, just because it’s artificial does not mean that it can’t be given the ability to make decisions and execute in ways that could impact the real intelligences (sentient) in the non-“virtual” world, sometimes with dire consequences. I guess what I mean is, artificial also does not mean benign.

…
Many humans live unoriginal, robotic lives, so it is easy for an AI to mimic that.

That’s a good point. It’s becoming a desert of mediocrity and conformity; not an original or challenging thought to be found.

[Niemand]

19 mins long

I think any perceived (supposed) sentience will merely be a projection of our own agendas and biases. Artificial does not mean synthetic intelligence.

But one thing is for sure, just because it’s artificial does not mean that it can’t be given the ability to make decisions and execute in ways that could impact the real intelligences (sentient) in the non-“virtual” world, sometimes with dire consequences. I guess what I mean is, artificial also does not mean benign.

…
Many humans live unoriginal, robotic lives, so it is easy for an AI to mimic that.

That’s a good point. It’s becoming a desert of mediocrity and conformity; not an original or challenging thought to be found.

I've touched on it elsewhere... it's like the music industry. Someone said, "AI could easily write pop music..", my reply is that these days, yes it could. Listen to some stuff on the radio, the backing is so formulaic and the singing is autotuned so barely human anyway. So it's a tiny step to there.

I've heard an AI try to write a Beatles' song. Now I know they have their detractors on here, but the Beatles' songs are often more complex, quirkier and original than some of the songs today. So the AI struggled with producing a decent Beatles' song

Factories are the aame. For the last 150 years, factory workers have become more and more like machies. So when automation came, not much had to be changed. Same applies to hack journalism - an AI will easily copy bad celebrity gloop or press releases, but it will struggle producing pieces in the line of Tom Wolfe or Hunter S. Thompaon, because againz whatever one thinks of those two, their content was distinctive.

[EvanLM]

19 mins long

I think any perceived (supposed) sentience will merely be a projection of our own agendas and biases. Artificial does not mean synthetic intelligence.

But one thing is for sure, just because it’s artificial does not mean that it can’t be given the ability to make decisions and execute in ways that could impact the real intelligences (sentient) in the non-“virtual” world, sometimes with dire consequences. I guess what I mean is, artificial also does not mean benign.

it will be what the programmer has beeneabltto develop. however, the idea that a computer or AI or whatever even has the intellect of a 7 year old is a lie. has never been proven. cannot be done with the algorithims that are being used. The algorithioms can only follow patterns so anything creative or really using intellect cannot be programmed into the computer.

People are being lied to and fooled into believing that there is some advancement that doesn't exist and these things have NOT been done yet. Chess and Jazz music are patterned and there are a limited amount of moves or patterns so a computer can be programmed to win or arrive at a place in the game or write a jazz song . . . but . . cannot give a reason as to why it would chose a certain path or emotion or why it would give you a suggestion based on agenda or bias. It would randomly pull a suggestion out of a pre programmed list but it is not possible to determine a reason for the choice, or cannot challenge the choice while using the current calculus to be sentient. There is a word for challenging the computer's reasoning . . i can't remember what the word is. But this has already been studied and proved that sentient isn't possible. You're being sold a box of rocks.

It can only respond the way that it is programmed . And the programmer and anyone can still hack it and change the algorithms. One study was done on the recognition of two different animals in a pictures by AI with success. then, the algorithms were changed with the same pictures being used for the prompt and the AI could not determine that it had chosen the wrong picture. In other words, you can use a picture of an ape for a prompt but with a change of calculus then a picture of something else might pop up. this is a no brainer . . do you ever use google for a search and have something close to what you want or maybe something very different shows up on the screen?

Ihave read and heard other experiments that prove the things that we are being told is not possible.

I have seen the interest and acceptance and have been forced to accept technology as something wonderful and this bunch of lies by mormons. There seems to be some support that our prophets told us this technology was from God. I have heard that it is the boom in missionary work, however the convert baptisms have decreased tremendously vs. door knocking since tech has been used.

I don't know at what point we will be tired of this swarm of lies presented to us as fact by both our fellow members and the world scientists(as they call themselves). When are we gonna go back to looking at our world and what is happening to help us descern truth. I see that there is no proof but mormons keep touting it as truth.

The ward that i am in now has a password named Liahona for their technology. well, that is pretty suttle but pushing the idea that his is somehow from God like the Lihaona that Lehi had. I don't think Lehi's Liahona had pornography and satan worship on it.

Kinda like the abortion lie that a human was not being killed. Ok, I see your stomach is growing, there is something in there and it is growing . . . but I guess, if you keep telling me that it is not a baby then . . . hmmmm . . oh when will this bs end. I know when I can see truth

There have been people who have been in the meetings of those who are pushing tech for business, who claim that this is from the devil. I have also heard the comment made that it will probably be through technology that people will be so deceived that they will lose their salvation. People and mormons will believe that they can get involved in this satanistic technology and still hold on to Christ. you will not be able to . These same people have warned against using any of it for AI on yourself.

Well, I can already see mormons so convinced that this is from God. I've always wondered what could be so fantastic that it could take covenant people down . . . now I know

[EvanLM]

I think any perceived (supposed) sentience will merely be a projection of our own agendas and biases. Artificial does not mean synthetic intelligence.

But one thing is for sure, just because it’s artificial does not mean that it can’t be given the ability to make decisions and execute in ways that could impact the real intelligences (sentient) in the non-“virtual” world, sometimes with dire consequences. I guess what I mean is, artificial also does not mean benign.

…
Many humans live unoriginal, robotic lives, so it is easy for an AI to mimic that.

That’s a good point. It’s becoming a desert of mediocrity and conformity; not an original or challenging thought to be found.

I've touched on it elsewhere... it's like the music industry. Someone said, "AI could easily write pop music..", my reply is that these days, yes it could. Listen to some stuff on the radio, the backing is so formulaic and the singing is autotuned so barely human anyway. So it's a tiny step to there.

I've heard an AI try to write a Beatles' song. Now I know they have their detractors on here, but the Beatles' songs are often more complex, quirkier and original than some of the songs today. So the AI struggled with producing a decent Beatles' song

Factories are the aame. For the last 150 years, factory workers have become more and more like machies. So when automation came, not much had to be changed. Same applies to hack journalism - an AI will easily copy bad celebrity gloop or press releases, but it will struggle producing pieces in the line of Tom Wolfe or Hunter S. Thompaon, because againz whatever one thinks of those two, their content was distinctive.

this sounds like what carrie madej says . . did you know that she was in a small plane wreck two days ago?

[Niemand]

…
Many humans live unoriginal, robotic lives, so it is easy for an AI to mimic that.

That’s a good point. It’s becoming a desert of mediocrity and conformity; not an original or challenging thought to be found.

I've touched on it elsewhere... it's like the music industry. Someone said, "AI could easily write pop music..", my reply is that these days, yes it could. Listen to some stuff on the radio, the backing is so formulaic and the singing is autotuned so barely human anyway. So it's a tiny step to there.

I've heard an AI try to write a Beatles' song. Now I know they have their detractors on here, but the Beatles' songs are often more complex, quirkier and original than some of the songs today. So the AI struggled with producing a decent Beatles' song

Factories are the aame. For the last 150 years, factory workers have become more and more like machies. So when automation came, not much had to be changed. Same applies to hack journalism - an AI will easily copy bad celebrity gloop or press releases, but it will struggle producing pieces in the line of Tom Wolfe or Hunter S. Thompaon, because againz whatever one thinks of those two, their content was distinctive.

this sounds like what carrie madej says . . did you know that she was in a small plane wreck two days ago?

Never heard of her.

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