How close do you think we are to the Cleansing of America?

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How close to the Cleasing of America?

0-5 years
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5-10 years
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10-15 years
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15-20 years
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20-25 years
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30-35 years
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35+ years
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alaris wrote: November 2nd, 2017, 9:08 pm
James-T-Prout wrote: November 2nd, 2017, 3:39 pm Hi Guys,

2. The Second downturn will be The END of America in it's current state with Secret Combinations running the show. It will be OVER for them. At this time in the future, there will be the 2nd American Civil War. The BIG Plague. and Large Earthquakes.

The Eagle Kingdom will be pretty messed up, by the time it finally goes down. The final death blow to the Eagle Kingdom comes from The Lion Kingdom that is hidden up, to do this very thing of freeing the meek and oppressed people from under this Eagle Kingdom's oppression.

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The timing for these prophecies to be fulfilled is the exact time the Restoration of the US Constitution is to happen. The Ezra's Eagle Prophecy shows this exact language that the Constitution will be restored at that time, just after the Lion Kingdom frees the people.

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This outline is just a small part of The Last Days Timeline.

There is much more detail on the Timing of these events located in the Free Chapters here: https://www.lastdaystimeline.com/free-chapters/
Could the plague be the BIG plague?
http://time.com/5008022/madagascar-plag ... -to-know/

If there were a scarcity of antibiotics due to war and an airborne plague outbreak... *shivers*

Also the Book Of Mormon was written for our days and essentially has sections on "how to deal with gadiantons." So, it makes sense to me that the genesis of the Lion Kingdom would be from LDS. Oh and the Davidic Servant is from the USA. Sorry Dafty (I couldn't resist.) ;)
lol stop derailing the thread!!!! ;) ...and stop following in master shifu's footsteps and dissect my posts into little, tiny, pulled out of context phrases lol -I did NOT say DS is NOT from USA, i said I question it and there is a difference. As I person interested in the events of the last days I question everything from an unbiased point of view. I would be happy to embrace it as a fact, however, from my personal studies it doesnt seem so clean cut and both my gift of knowledge and discerment are lacking and Im unable to make my mind up about it. Similarly, I will not jump on the bandwagon of Ezdras Eagle prophecy believers just because somebody says so and it looks plausible, untill - either I get a 'spiritual' confirmation thereof or...somebody assassinates Trump lol x

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Could the plague be the BIG plague?
http://time.com/5008022/madagascar-plag ... -to-know/

If there were a scarcity of antibiotics due to war and an airborne plague outbreak... *shivers*
The Prince thinks there are too many people in the World, Think this plague could help depopulate. :x
[url][http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... world//url]

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Historically there are similarities between our society and when the Black Plagues hit Europe, and the behavior that contributed to the downfall of Roman Britain. A number of historians some interesting details on these two areas. Feel free to look it up.

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Hi Alaris,

Yep, I dealt with that question in the book...."what does the BIG Plague look like and feel like?"

Here is the exerpt
The BIG Plague

This BIG Plague has been seen by many prophets. It is also seen in Doctrine and Covenants Section 45.

(D&C 45:30-32)
“30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.
32 But my disciples shall stand in holy places, and shall not be moved; but among the wicked, men shall lift up their voices and curse God and die.”

Learning Points:
A. Right at the start of when the Times of the Gentiles is completed… this overflowing scourge/desolating sickness shall begin. This is one of the clues that the Gentiles have “had their day”. And that the unbelieving of the Gentiles are about to be wiped out… in preparation for the return to Jackson County to build the New Jerusalem. And also to prepare a place for the Lost 10 Tribes to inhabit, temporarily.
B. The Saints of God will be better-off where they are located near “holy places”. The Lord declares this fact.

Again in D&C 84, the same point is made:

(D&C 84:96-97)
“96 For I, the Almighty, have laid my hands upon the nations, to scourge them for their wickedness.
97 And plagues shall go forth, and they shall not be taken from the earth until I have completed my work, which shall be cut short in righteousness—“

Learning Points:
A. The BIG Plague is a scourging upon the earth because of wickedness.
B. These plagues (plural) shall be cut short to preserve the righteous.

Yet all the righteous will not be spared, because of the weakness of the flesh. Assumingly, some will have lowered immune systems.

(Joseph Smith Jr., Teachings of Joseph Smith, Chapter 21)
explained concerning the coming of the Son of Man; also that it is a false idea that the Saints will escape all the judgments, whilst the wicked suffer; for all flesh is subject to suffer, and ‘the righteous shall hardly escape’ [see D&C 63:34]; still many of the Saints will escape, for the just shall live by faith [see Habakkuk 2:4]; yet many of the righteous shall fall a prey to disease, to pestilence, etc., by reason of the weakness of the flesh, and yet be saved in the Kingdom of God.”

The Bubonic Plague transmitted by rat fleas, in the 1300s in Europe, Asia, and Africa killed roughly 50% of those infected.
(See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague)

The 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic infected 500 Million people. It killed 50-100 Million people worldwide in just a few months. That was 3-5% of overall world population. This flu virus killed predominantly healthy young adults, instead of a normal flu virus that kills the old and the young. It was spread by sneezing and coughing with people in tight quarters. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic)

The 2014 Ebola outbreak in Western Africa killed 40% of it’s 28,616 cases, or 11,310 deaths. Ebola is a weaponized biological warfare agent. Ebola only spreads by blood or direct body fluid contact. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease)

However, this future BIG Plague seems to be worst. This BIG Plague is new compared to what humans have seen in the past.


There is more in the book on this topic. There are Old Testament linkages as well.

Alaris, it appears to me that the speed of death is so fast that it is very different to what we have seen before in modern historical writings. From what it appears, when the world gets hit with this, it appears that the infection takes only hours and days until death....instead of days and weeks until death.

There isn't anything in the historical writings that I'm aware of that has such a high contagion rate and a fast death speed as what these scriptures are prophesying.

However, I do not rule the “special fly/maggot plague” of God out. Evidence is fairly weak as to the exact nature of the BIG Plague to hit America and much of the rest of the world. We know what it will do for God’s purposes. We don’t know if it’s bacterial, viral, parasite based (flies/maggots), etc…

Does that make sense?

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Re: How close do you think we are to the Cleansing of America?

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Hi Dafty,

I know you must have seen this Tool before. I think we talked about it on another thread.

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So, I put together a tool that will help alleviate the problems for people that want concreteness in the future scriptural prophecies, like I do.

Remember, I only want the very best scriptural timeline of the future that is possible to be had from the prophets. I do not care much for my own opinions on the topic. I'm trying to mold my own opinions to what the scriptures say. It's hard to do that. For our own frame of references sit in front of everything we see, hear, or read.

The Ezra's Eagle Prophecy Fulfillment Tool is Here:
https://www.lastdaystimeline.com/ezras- ... fillments/

You will discover:
    How many total internal Ezra's Eagle prophecies are already fulfilled in the history of the United States of America. (Answer: Download the tool to see all 18)
    • How many total short feathers are their in the Ezra's Eagle Prophecy?
    • What are the definitions of a short feather?
    • What happened before the first feather Herbert Hoover?
    • Why does President FDR qualify in an extra deep way to perfectly fit the extra-long 2nd feather?
    • How do the amendments to the constitution come into the picture with Ezra's Eagle?
    • What the Ezra's Eagle Prophecy said would happen to the 45th President of the United States over 2600 years ago. (psst.... Donald Trump is the new 45th President)
    I made this tool specifically for people who know about the Ezra's Eagle Prophecy, but are waiting for Trump to be taken down, before they will believe. For I was one of those people myself.

    My mind was playing tricks on me. The thought pattern went like this....
    1. I will wait to believe Ezra's Eagle until Trump gets taken down.
    2. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Trump is in trouble.
    3. I will wait to believe Ezra's Eagle until Pence gets taken down.
    4. By the time Pence gets taken down, there won't be much time left to make many series preparation decisions
    5. There must be some other internal evidence in Ezra's Eagle itself to help my mind to believe before Trump goes down.

    And there is a lot of internal evidence of the line-ups of this prophecy with America. I have found 18 of them so far, that have been fulfilled between the Eagle Kingdom and the United States of America.

    Enjoy the tool. It was made for people like us. Thank you.

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    Learning Points:
    A. The BIG Plague is a scourging upon the earth because of wickedness.
    B. These plagues (plural) shall be cut short to preserve the righteous.

    When people are wicked, the righteous and just are deprived of a future. They also seek to destroy the Saints of God. I've felt strongly that its needed to and its going to happen to save the righteous and just. There are many references in the scriptures to the Church of the Devil trying to destroy the Saints of God. I have also seen in my life that right now many righteous and just are barely surviving and barely alive because of persecution, being pushed out from among others, and alienated to the point of having no future in this world.

    But God's plan of salvation is based on obedience and progression through obedience. So at some point it can't be helped that we'll get to a point where it has to happen. The Lord has many promises that he will support the righteous in their trials and not allow them to be destroyed. But as long as the wicked keep depriving the righteous of a future, the closer we'll be getting to having things turned upside down. I don't say this out of bragging or pride. But when this kind of thing starts to happen people are going to need answers for it. They are going to need to know that its happening for a reason and that's mercy not cruelty.
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    We have a little under 4 years at most in America, unless we pray for the lord to hold of on the judgement of America... or we repent (which probably isn’t going to happen on a large enough scale to justify holding back His judgements).

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    Durzan wrote: November 4th, 2017, 2:49 am We have a little under 4 years at most in America, unless we pray for the lord to hold of on the judgement of America... or we repent (which probably isn’t going to happen on a large enough scale to justify holding back His judgements).
    Ive always questioned the reasoning behind praying and asking The Lord to withold His judgments. I mean, with all the chaos around the world and all the suffering tha, primarily little children are subjected to, id say itd be better to pray and ask for the judgments to come sooner rather than later...but maybe its a flawed way of thinking, i dont know...

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    7 Good, followed by 7 Bad years, is the biblical pattern, and 7 Good years may have begun in April.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-gdp-q3-advance-estimate-2017-10 wrote:
    GDP hits 3%, crushing estimates despite hurricanes

    * US gross domestic product rose faster than expected in the third quarter, showing that consumer and business spending remained strong despite the hurricanes.

    * For a second quarter in a row, GDP hit 3%, President Donald Trump's stated target for growth.

    * But Friday's report is an advance estimate and will be revised two more times before the end of the year.

    I stand all amazed, how things continue to unfold, as if on cue. :oops:

    7 Good years will soon become 6, then 5, 4, 3, 2, and finialy only 1 more, concluding in April 2024 with a second full eclipse, that completes an X.

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    Of note too, is 2 hurricanes, that went by the names of Harvey and Irma.

    Another powerful demonstration of the power of two i.e. the Parable of the Good Samaritan that may be understood on many levels, as much more than a simple parable.

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    gardener4life wrote: November 4th, 2017, 12:37 am Learning Points:
    A. The BIG Plague is a scourging upon the earth because of wickedness.
    B. These plagues (plural) shall be cut short to preserve the righteous.
    If these plagues are cut short to preserve the righteous, the cutting short will also preserve the wicked. Thus I don't believe they will be cut short to protect anybody. Instead, the righteous will be directly sustained through a variety of miracles. Maybe our food storage will look like it's running out every day, but every day there will be just enough food to get through that day as experienced by a widow in Zarephath. Maybe we'll receive manna. Maybe we won't even need food or water because our faith will become so strong that we can rely entirely on our Savior.

    I expect the plagues to last long enough to accomplish three objectives:
    • The wicked who will not turn from their wickedness will be destroyed.
    • The wicked, and not so wicked, who will turn from their sins as they are humbled will be preserved and guided to find the righteous.
    • The righteous will be preserved, but will suffer as necessary to be purified.
    Along with these objectives, those who are righteous will receive a divine calling to care for those who are preserved and proclaim the gospel to them.

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    Hi LDS Anarchist,

    Thank you much for this question.

    I know what you mean. I feel it too.

    There have been so many predictions over soooo many decades that just about always fall through.

    I've read them. You know I've read them.

    If Trump makes it through his term and exits office in normal fashion, by not running again, or by leaving after the 2nd term, then I would look at Ezra and say that it doesn't fit.

    Personally, I am separate from the research. The Last Days Timeline Project is not about Ezra's Eagle.
    The Ezra's Eagle Prophecy deserves it's place on the Last Days Timeline because of the it's internal evidence that has already come to pass.

    However, if it doesn't show fruit in a continuing manner, then it would lose it's place on The Last Days Timeline Project.
    I might allow 1 mulligan due to my own lack of interpretation skills. But, if that fruit continues to not show, I will debunk it myself. I am separate than the research.

    Does that make sense?

    I'm in this for the very best timeline of the last days using scripture, so that my children and grandchildren may have a clear understanding of the last days events in order.

    Now, LDS Anarchist. You must ask yourself, what will you choose to believe if it comes to pass?
    How much time will you let slip through your hands by not preparing for the events of this King James Apocryphal prophecy that is already 3/5ths fulfilled?

    Heck....when you think about it from a historical perspective of what these bad guys are trying to build.....it lines up with the Ezra's Eagle Prophecy anyway.

    Check this page out: https://www.lastdaystimeline.com/george-hw-bush/

    This page talks about how many times in 1991-2000ish these people were talking about building this 4th Beast Kingdom. This was 25 years ago. And I've got data showing this same concept more than 80-100 years ago.

    I'm not one to jump at conclusions. I let the data show me where my mind should go. I think that is the best way to do research. God bless.

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    Predictions falling through are why you stick to core scriptures. Those never let you down. Also even if a certain grand event doesn't happen you still see types of things happening and still see that its continuing to build up. So I don't think you can lose if you stick to what you know to be true, keep building on using the Spirit as your guide, keep reading the scriptures, and following where faith leads. The signs of the times don't really ever let up but just keep building.

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    The eagle prophecy is not about politics. You have misinterpreted the meaning. The parable of the sower was not about seeds.
    The story of the vineyard was not about trees.

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    what means: "cleansing of america"?

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    Warrior Of Jah wrote: November 7th, 2017, 4:20 pm what means: "cleansing of america"?
    Like what does it mean?

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    LDS Anarchist wrote: November 6th, 2017, 2:19 pm The only thing on my radar is the rise of the Josephite. It is the only thing that should be on anyone's radar:
    And his disciples asked him, saying,
    Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
    And Jesus answered and said unto them,
    Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
    (Matthew 17:10-11)
    For now I believe most of us are missing the forest for all the trees when we are trying to identify “who” the prophesied Davidic servant is. A servant hidden from the world for a time. I do believe modern revelation and instruction by Joseph Smith give us some useful keys to reveal the identity of the end time Davidic servant or forerunner. Remember that Isaiah uses historical types to describe end time actors and that David is an historical type. I believe Joseph Smith has the most knowledge about the scriptures and the fullness of the everlasting gospel of any person I have come across.

    In D&C 27:6 we learn that Elias holds the keys to the restoration in the latter days

    D&C 27:6 And also with Elias, to whom I have committed the keys of bringing to pass the restoration of all things spoken by the mouth of all the holy prophets since the world began, concerning the last days;

    In the next verse D&C 27:7 we learn that it was Elias (the individual) that visited Zacharias and gave promise that he should have a son that would be filled with the spirit of Elias.

    D&C 27:7 And also John the son of Zacharias, which Zacharias he (Elias) visited and gave promise that he should have a son, and his name should be John, and he should be filled with the spirit of Elias;

    In Luke chapter 1:19 we learn that the Angel who visited Zacharias and gave him promise of a son was Gabriel.

    Luke 1:19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.

    According to D&C 27:7 Gabriel is Elias, the individual.

    In Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith section 4 Joseph Smith reveals that Noah is Gabriel (Elias).

    “The Priesthood was first given to Adam; he obtained the First Presidency, and held the keys of it from generation to generation. He obtained it in the Creation, before the world was formed, as in Genesis 1:26, 27, 28. He had dominion given him over every living creature. He is Michael the Archangel, spoken of in the Scriptures. Then to NOAH, WHO IS GABRIEL: he stands next in authority to Adam in the Priesthood; he was called of God to this office, and was the father of all living in this day, and to him was given the dominion. These men held keys first on earth, and then in heaven.”

    Isn’t it fitting that Noah (Gabriel, Elias) would have the restoration Keys (D&C 27:6) since he was the prophet to restore all things after the flood, which likely was the first restoration. This was a restoration of the creation (not just the gospel) and Noah became the Father of all living in his day.

    Note how Gabriel (Noah, Elias) describes the mission of John the Baptist who holds the office of Elias (filled with the spirit of Elias).

    Luke 1:13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

    14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

    15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.

    16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

    17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

    It is interesting to note that John the Baptist had priesthood authority, by the lineage of Aaron, to preach the gospel of repentance and baptism for the remission of sins and nothing more. That which was greater was to come after. Is not the gospel of repentance and baptism the gospel of restoration? A restoration from the fall of Adam. In Biblical Hebrew, the idea of repentance is represented by two verbs: שוב shuv (to return) and נחם nacham (to feel sorrow). Repent means to turn or return to God. It is also interesting to note that Elias is to turn hearts (Luke 1:17). This is also the mission of latter day Elijah to turn (restore) hearts (covenants) of both fathers and children.

    Do you notice any similarities between the character and mission of John the Baptist holding the office of Elias and The restored church and priesthood of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Many shall rejoice. Shall be great in the sight of the Lord. Shall drink neither wine nor strong drink so that he may be filled with the Holy Ghost. Many shall he (re)turn to the Lord their God. Go before Him (God, Christ) in the spirit and power of Elias (restoration) to (re)turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. To make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

    In a revelation given to Joseph Smith in March 1832 we read the following:

    D&C 77:9 Q. What are we to understand by the angel ascending from the east, Revelation 7th chapter and 2nd verse?
    A. We are to understand that the angel ascending from the east is he to whom is given the seal of the living God over the twelve tribes of Israel; wherefore, he crieth unto the four angels having the everlasting gospel, saying: Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till WE have sealed the servants of OUR God in their foreheads. And, if you will receive it, this is ELIAS which was to come to gather together the tribes of Israel and restore all things.

    This revelation identifies the angel ascending from the east as one that is given the authority to seal. It also importantly identifies this angel as Elias or the forerunner which is to gather together the tribes of Israel and restore all things. These specific tasks are also identified with the Davidic endtime servant in Isaiah. Also notice that when the angel crieth he refers to himself in plural (WE or OUR).

    In a sermon delivered at General conference at Nauvoo in april 1843 Joesph Smith taught that beasts are used by the prophets to represent earthly or worldly kingdoms and thus Joseph Smith alludes that more intelligent beings, such as angels, men (servants) and women (virgin, bride), are used to represent the kingdom of God or a higher kingdom.

    “When God made use of the figure of a beast in visions to the I prophets, he did it to represent those Kingdoms who had degenerated and become corrupt--the Kingdoms of the world, but he never made use of the figure of a beast nor any of the brute kind to represent his kingdom. Daniel says when he saw the vision of the four beasts "I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this." The angel interpreted the vision to Daniel, but we find by the interpretation that the figures of beasts had no allusion to the Kingdom of God. You there see that the beasts are spoken of to represent the Kingdoms of the world the inhabitants whereof were beastly and abominable characters, they were murderous, corrupt, carnivorous and brutal in their dispositions. I make mention of the prophets to qualify my declaration which I am about to make so that the young Elders who know so much may not rise up and choke me like hornets. there is a grand difference and distinction between the visions and figures spoken of by the prophets and those spoken of in the Revelations of John.”

    On this note could the angel ascending from the east, which is Elias or holds the office of Elias, be a representation of the kingdom of God or the collective priesthood of God?

    In March 10th 1844 Joseph Smith gives a fantastic sermon on the spirit of Elias, the spirit of Elijah and the spirit of Messiah. Note that this is the same terminology that Gabriel uses in Luke 1:17. He starts out teaching about the spirit, power and office of Elias and his mission. He clarifies that Elias is the office of a forerunner and that we have a forerunner in the last days as also in the days of Christ. Then he introduces and identifies the spirit and power of Elijah as THE (awaited) Elias in the last days (I had read this sentence many times not understanding what it really meant, I thought it was a scribal error). Notice that it is not Elijah nor Elias the individual that is the end time Elias but a group individuals, with the spirit and power of Elijah. He then goes on to teach about what constitutes the spirit and power of Elijah (in essence the Melchizedek priesthood). Very condensed the power of Elijah is the power to seal, which is the same power and authority that was given to the angel ascending from the east (Gods direction) which was revealed as Elias that would restore all things according to D&C 77:9. The angel ascending from the east has the spirit and power of Elijah (to seal) but also holds the office of Elias or forerunner and as mentioned before have many striking similarities with the prophesied Davidic endtime servant.

    "But if I spend much more time in conversing about the spirit of Elias I shall not have time to do justice to THE SPIRIT & POWER OF ELIJAH, THIS IS THE ELIAS SPOKEN OF IN THE LAST DAYS & here is the rock upon which many split thinking the time was past in the days of John & Christ & no more to be, but the spirit of Elias was revealed to me & I know it is true therefore I speak with boldness for I know verily my doctrine is true. Now for Elijah, the spirit power & calling of Elijah is that ye have power to hold the keys of the revelations ordinances, oricles powers & endowments of the fulness of the Melchezedek Priesthood & of the Kingdom of God on the Earth & to receive, obtain & perform all the ordinances belonging to the Kingdom of God even unto the sealing of the hearts of the hearts fathers unto the children & the hearts of the children unto the fathers even those who are in heaven. Malachi says I will send Elijah before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come & He shall turn the hearts of the Fathers to the Children and the hearts of the Children to the Fathers lest I come & smite the earth with a Curse,"

    I believe I have here identified some keys (there are many more) to identify the Davidic endtime servant or forerunner prophesied by Isaiah, Nephi, Moroni and John and many more. I believe “he” is more familiar to us than most of us realize.

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    "For when they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them." (1 Thessalonians 5:3).

    That is the scripture that comes to my mind over and over since Trump won the presidency. We all feel relieved and feel that we are safe from Obama and Hilary and the deep state, but they still hold the reigns of power. Lucky for us Trump has the military on his side. Military Intelligence is the only intelligence facet of the Federal Government that hasn't been corrupted at the top levels. Of course now corporations are also helping the deep state. People just need to recognize the coup vs the counter-coup going on right now.

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    brianj wrote: November 4th, 2017, 9:44 am
    gardener4life wrote: November 4th, 2017, 12:37 am Learning Points:
    A. The BIG Plague is a scourging upon the earth because of wickedness.
    B. These plagues (plural) shall be cut short to preserve the righteous.
    If these plagues are cut short to preserve the righteous, the cutting short will also preserve the wicked. Thus I don't believe they will be cut short to protect anybody. Instead, the righteous will be directly sustained through a variety of miracles. Maybe our food storage will look like it's running out every day, but every day there will be just enough food to get through that day as experienced by a widow in Zarephath. Maybe we'll receive manna. Maybe we won't even need food or water because our faith will become so strong that we can rely entirely on our Savior.

    I expect the plagues to last long enough to accomplish three objectives:
    • The wicked who will not turn from their wickedness will be destroyed.
    • The wicked, and not so wicked, who will turn from their sins as they are humbled will be preserved and guided to find the righteous.
    • The righteous will be preserved, but will suffer as necessary to be purified.
    Along with these objectives, those who are righteous will receive a divine calling to care for those who are preserved and proclaim the gospel to them.
    Plagues don't have to affect all groups according to their statistical representation.

    And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

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    Merriner wrote: November 20th, 2017, 7:19 pm "For when they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them." (1 Thessalonians 5:3).

    That is the scripture that comes to my mind over and over since Trump won the presidency. We all feel relieved and feel that we are safe from Obama and Hilary and the deep state, but they still hold the reigns of power. Lucky for us Trump has the military on his side. Military Intelligence is the only intelligence facet of the Federal Government that hasn't been corrupted at the top levels. Of course now corporations are also helping the deep state. People just need to recognize the coup vs the counter-coup going on right now.
    Do you realize that military intelligence isn't concerned with international espionage? It's concerned with the strength and capabilities of enemy forces as well as their location, movement, and plans.

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    BrianJ is correct. Military Intelligence is about knowing and scoring the potential threats of enemy activity.

    Adding more into this thread on "When will America be Cleansed?"

    From my research on the subject, it appears there are 4 main drivers for the cleansing:
    1. 2nd American Civil War
    2. BIG Plague
    3. Earthquakes (could be more storms)
    4. The Lost 10 Tribes clearing out the rest of the Stout Horn armies trying to get a toe-hold back on the continent.

    There surely may be more disasters and problems than these. But, these 4 are involved.

    Most LDS people can imagine what the Neighborhood fighting may look like.

    Most LDS people can imagine what the BIG Plague may look like.

    The Earthquakes...this can be a bit shocking. Most people that die in earthquakes don't die from the quake. They die from their house falling on them, when their house is located in liquifaction zones. (high water table)

    It looks like this.

    Image

    and the fires that start next, after the Earthquake is what does the real damage. Without an active fire department with water, the city will burn.
    Image

    Get the Free Audiobook: The San Francisco Calamity by Charles Morris here:
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    The Lost 10 Tribes returning in their might to deflect their enemies will be quite a large spectacle.
    There are no images to show, as nothing like this has ever happened before.

    We know a few things:
    • when they come, they will be ready to fight, because "their enemies will be a prey to them."
    • they will have advanced military technology. Of a type, we don't have now.
    • they will be traveling from the extreme icy North
    • they will be moving toward the Everlasting Hills (Rocky Mountains)
    • they will be arriving after most of the land has been cleared out already, but before the New Jerusalem Temple is fully completed, because they are to help build it.
    So....as we put all that together, that will be enough to cleanse America.

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    James-T-Prout wrote: November 21st, 2017, 5:24 pm The Earthquakes...this can be a bit shocking. Most people that die in earthquakes don't die from the quake. They die from their house falling on them, when their house is located in liquifaction zones. (high water table)
    Actually, liquefaction doesn't require a high water table. I live in a ground floor apartment of a four story building. The soil where I live is ancient lake bed sediment. Even without significant liquid present, the soil will cease to be a stable surface for supporting buildings when things start shaking.

    After the 1910 San Francisco earthquake it was discovered that the houses with the least damage were the ones that were built on bedrock. The ones built on compressed topsoil fared poorly, even up the hillsides where ground water wouldn't be an issue.

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    5-10 years. Possibly 15 because it will feel like God is supposed to come, but he doesn't and people wonder why.
    A lot more bad I feel has to happen before then. And a lot more good has to happen too, and sometimes this takes time.
    it was year 2000 when the proclamation came out 14-15 years before it started really getting bad enough to see how it applies. Possibly the same thing.
    It will definitely happen by the time my generation (millenials) get in higher positions, age 30-40, we tend to create movements good or bad.

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    James-T-Prout wrote: November 21st, 2017, 5:24 pm BrianJ is correct. Military Intelligence is about knowing and scoring the potential threats of enemy activity.

    Adding more into this thread on "When will America be Cleansed?"

    From my research on the subject, it appears there are 4 main drivers for the cleansing:
    1. 2nd American Civil War
    2. BIG Plague
    3. Earthquakes (could be more storms)
    4. The Lost 10 Tribes clearing out the rest of the Stout Horn armies trying to get a toe-hold back on the continent.

    There surely may be more disasters and problems than these. But, these 4 are involved.

    Most LDS people can imagine what the Neighborhood fighting may look like.

    Most LDS people can imagine what the BIG Plague may look like.

    The Earthquakes...this can be a bit shocking. Most people that die in earthquakes don't die from the quake. They die from their house falling on them, when their house is located in liquifaction zones. (high water table)

    It looks like this.

    Image

    and the fires that start next, after the Earthquake is what does the real damage. Without an active fire department with water, the city will burn.
    Image

    Get the Free Audiobook: The San Francisco Calamity by Charles Morris here:
    https://www.lastdaystimeline.com/san-fr ... arthquake/

    The Lost 10 Tribes returning in their might to deflect their enemies will be quite a large spectacle.
    There are no images to show, as nothing like this has ever happened before.

    We know a few things:
    • when they come, they will be ready to fight, because "their enemies will be a prey to them."
    • they will have advanced military technology. Of a type, we don't have now.
    • they will be traveling from the extreme icy North
    • they will be moving toward the Everlasting Hills (Rocky Mountains)
    • they will be arriving after most of the land has been cleared out already, but before the New Jerusalem Temple is fully completed, because they are to help build it.
    So....as we put all that together, that will be enough to cleanse America.
    I feel that you are correct! The four main events are just the four events that make up the whole shebang.

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    XEmilyX wrote: November 22nd, 2017, 2:52 pm 5-10 years. Possibly 15 because it will feel like God is supposed to come, but he doesn't and people wonder why.
    A lot more bad I feel has to happen before then. And a lot more good has to happen too, and sometimes this takes time.
    it was year 2000 when the proclamation came out 14-15 years before it started really getting bad enough to see how it applies. Possibly the same thing.
    It will definitely happen by the time my generation (millenials) get in higher positions, age 30-40, we tend to create movements good or bad.
    We have to wait for another proclamation or something and then wait 15-25 years for some cleasing, I guess.

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    There remain only 400 days until it shall be complete : regular updates at : http://risen-from-the-dead.forumotion.com/

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