What is going on?!?

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Thousands evacuated as volcano rumbles on Indonesian holiday spot Bali

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indo ... SKCN1BX0I7

[Michelle]

North Korea is threatening to test the H-bomb over the Pacific. I didn't add a link because you can go read it at the newsite of your choice.

[Alaris]

Large earthquake off the coast of Chile. Wildfire gone wild in Cali. More solar activity during a solar minimum. A lot more "nothing" going on for the naysayers.

Here's a super interesting video on how mercury and venus are pulling on the Sun's geomagnetic field, possibly causing these additional cmes that are occurring during a solar minimum.

https://youtu.be/vx7KLglvl-E

For those who believe 9/23 may have been a sign, Venus and Mercury interacting with the sun on this level is very interesting.

Edit: I don't think the largest mass shooting in the history of the USA has been mentioned in this thread yet.

Distress of nations indeed (see OP)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/1 ... ealed.html

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Large earthquake off the coast of Chile. Wildfire gone wild in Cali. More solar activity during a solar minimum. A lot more "nothing" going on for the naysayers.

Here's a super interesting video on how mercury and venus are pulling on the Sun's geomagnetic field, possibly causing these additional cmes that are occurring during a solar minimum.

https://youtu.be/vx7KLglvl-E

For those who believe 9/23 may have been a sign, Venus and Mercury interacting with the sun on this level is very interesting.

Edit: I don't think the largest mass shooting in the history of the USA has been mentioned in this thread yet.

Distress of nations indeed (see OP)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/1 ... ealed.html

The disasters both natural and man made have continued unabated. South Africa had very rare tornado and massive hail the size of tennis balls, in Johannesburg and flooding on the coast all just yesterday, these are areas that have never flooded before.
Catalan has now basically declared independence from Spain, Turkey had a flash stock-market crash yesterday, and their currency dramatically weakened. Things are primed like never before for a major crash with no chance of recovery.

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Some potential for disaster on the Mississippi viewtopic.php?f=14&t=46692#p813714
There have been 2 Eq above 6.3 over the last 24h including one on land (Chile).

California is already in the twilight zone this is totally insane - why lower the penalty for HIV and 1y jail for using wrong gender pronoun... If you work in patient care in California time to leave the state or you will prob end up in Jail...
California To Have Harsher Penalty For Pronoun Violations Than For Knowingly Spreading HIV
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-1 ... eading-hiv

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on Friday lowering the maximum penalty for knowingly infecting or exposing a person to HIV to six months in prison - down from a maximum of eight years.
Also last week, Brown signed legislation allowing for penalties of up to one year in jail for health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient.

[Hivetyrant36]

Nothing will happen 9/23. It is a false mainstream Christian misrepresentation of the actual message given by John in Revelation. 9/23 has been predicted for the last 3 years IN A ROW. Yet somehow this time it's different? OH WAIT, It's now Oct 12 and nothing happened..... Use this as a learning experience, guys. Fools will mock. He never said the fools were on which side of the argument.

[Hivetyrant36]

Thousands evacuated as volcano rumbles on Indonesian holiday spot Bali

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indo ... SKCN1BX0I7

This was a hoax. A daredevil climbed the volcano and posted pics of steam vents and the people returned to their homes. The people in power are trying to find anything they can blame for the increased sea ice that doesn't go against their climate change narrative. False hype.

[Durzan]

Nothing will happen 9/23. It is a false mainstream Christian misrepresentation of the actual message given by John in Revelation. 9/23 has been predicted for the last 3 years IN A ROW. Yet somehow this time it's different? OH WAIT, It's now Oct 12 and nothing happened..... Use this as a learning experience, guys. Fools will mock. He never said the fools were on which side of the argument.

I think you missed the memo that a good bunch of us were saying that 9/23 was a sign of something important, but that it the world wouldn't necessarily notice it. I think many of us assume that most of these signs are going to be big and grand, when the opposite may be true, at least for a few of them.

[Alaris]

Nothing will happen 9/23. It is a false mainstream Christian misrepresentation of the actual message given by John in Revelation. 9/23 has been predicted for the last 3 years IN A ROW. Yet somehow this time it's different? OH WAIT, It's now Oct 12 and nothing happened..... Use this as a learning experience, guys. Fools will mock. He never said the fools were on which side of the argument.

I think you missed the memo that a good bunch of us were saying that 9/23 was a sign of something important, but that it the world wouldn't necessarily notice it. I think many of us assume that most of these signs are going to be big and grand, when the opposite may be true, at least for a few of them. So quit your yapping and go back in your kennel, bub.

Better to just ignore the hindsight armchair prophecy experts. If they didn't bother to read our thoughts on 9/23 then and how it may pass without anything overt happening, why would they bother now?

That said ... you can do a quick google on the Bali volcano and see that it's not a hoax.

I do realize I am not practicing what I am preaching here about ignoring, so while I'm not ignoring ...

Fools mock is a two word complete thought with a subject and verb and absolutely no escape clause. There was a conjunction however that is a consequential dependency linked by the absolute "shall" spoken by the Lord Himself.

Fools mock, but they shall mourn. ~ Jesus Christ

Why shall they mourn? Mocking is such an elementary breaking of the golden rule, it's really not that hard to understand. Study near death experiences - in particular study how those who mistreat others suffer by re-experiencing their mistreatment of others through the victim's perspective. This is a well-documented aspect to NDEs. Mockers shall mourn. You don't get to mock if you are on the "right" side of the argument. See Lehi's dream and notice how those holding to the Rod don't point and mock at the people in the river or in the large and spacious.

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Thousands evacuated as volcano rumbles on Indonesian holiday spot Bali

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indo ... SKCN1BX0I7

This was a hoax. A daredevil climbed the volcano and posted pics of steam vents and the people returned to their homes. The people in power are trying to find anything they can blame for the increased sea ice that doesn't go against their climate change narrative. False hype.

Australian airlines flying to Bali from Sydney are stopping over in Darwin (northern most city in Australia) to refuel just in case they have to turn back due to volcanic activity, adding a lot of extra cost to the flights just for a hoax. Perhaps the live web cam and live seismograph will help you with your hoax theory.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-10/b ... es/9032328

A week after urging tens of thousands of volcano evacuees to go home, Bali's Governor says he got his numbers wrong ... and the camps are actually full of genuine refugees.
Governor Made Pastika last week said about half the 150,000 evacuees from Bali's rumbling Mount Agung volcano did not need to be in emergency shelters because their villages were not at risk.
Now Mr Pastika says that information was wrong — and the official number of evacuees from 28 threatened villages is much higher than he first thought.
"I apologise, I had the wrong information about the number of people living in the 28 villages," he said.

Bali volcano WATCH LIVE: Mount Agung latest video – ERUPTION LOOMS – LIVE WEBCAM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/864 ... atest-news

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Nothing will happen 9/23. It is a false mainstream Christian misrepresentation of the actual message given by John in Revelation. 9/23 has been predicted for the last 3 years IN A ROW. Yet somehow this time it's different? OH WAIT, It's now Oct 12 and nothing happened..... Use this as a learning experience, guys. Fools will mock. He never said the fools were on which side of the argument.

There were many signs leading up to to the visit of Jesus to the Nephrite starting with day and night and day of light, and many signs after that - the people ignored it and the judgement came.. We are given the signs for a reason, and since 9/23 there has been unending almost daily catastrophic events. Like the Nephites people are becoming more and more less astonished at an event and claiming hoaxes or gov conspiracy, like the shooting in Vegas - just a drill and no one got injured or a gov false flag, or the - country music lovers deserved it as they are mostly Trump supporters, nothing to do with people becoming wicked and Satan taking over the hearts of the people. Those that cant see it are blind spiritually and are making excuses.

3 Nephi 2:1
1 And it came to pass that thus passed away the ninety and fifth year also, and the people began to forget those signs and wonders which they had heard, and began to be less and less astonished at a sign or a wonder from heaven, insomuch that they began to be hard in their hearts, and blind in their minds, and began to disbelieve all which they had heard and seen—
2 Imagining up some vain thing in their hearts, that it was wrought by men and by the power of the devil, to lead away and deceive the hearts of the people; and thus did Satan get possession of the hearts of the people again, insomuch that he did blind their eyes and lead them away to believe that the doctrine of Christ was a foolish and a vain thing.
3 And it came to pass that the people began to wax strong in wickedness and abominations; and they did not believe that there should be any more signs or wonders given; and Satan did go about, leading away the hearts of the people, tempting them and causing them that they should do great wickedness in the land.

[Alaris]

Nothing will happen 9/23. It is a false mainstream Christian misrepresentation of the actual message given by John in Revelation. 9/23 has been predicted for the last 3 years IN A ROW. Yet somehow this time it's different? OH WAIT, It's now Oct 12 and nothing happened..... Use this as a learning experience, guys. Fools will mock. He never said the fools were on which side of the argument.

There were many signs leading up to to the visit of Jesus to the Nephrite starting with day and night and day of light, and many signs after that - the people ignored it and the judgement came.. We are given the signs for a reason, and since 9/23 there has been unending almost daily catastrophic events. Like the Nephites people are becoming more and more less astonished at an event and claiming hoaxes or gov conspiracy, like the shooting in Vegas - just a drill and no one got injured or a gov false flag, or the - country music lovers deserved it as they are mostly Trump supporters, nothing to do with people becoming wicked and Satan taking over the hearts of the people. Those that cant see it are blind spiritually and are making excuses.

3 Nephi 2:1
1 And it came to pass that thus passed away the ninety and fifth year also, and the people began to forget those signs and wonders which they had heard, and began to be less and less astonished at a sign or a wonder from heaven, insomuch that they began to be hard in their hearts, and blind in their minds, and began to disbelieve all which they had heard and seen—
2 Imagining up some vain thing in their hearts, that it was wrought by men and by the power of the devil, to lead away and deceive the hearts of the people; and thus did Satan get possession of the hearts of the people again, insomuch that he did blind their eyes and lead them away to believe that the doctrine of Christ was a foolish and a vain thing.
3 And it came to pass that the people began to wax strong in wickedness and abominations; and they did not believe that there should be any more signs or wonders given; and Satan did go about, leading away the hearts of the people, tempting them and causing them that they should do great wickedness in the land.

I was going to PM you a question earlier but was unable to do so. Would you mind unfoeing / unblocking me? I'd like to get your thoughts on something.

[dafty]

Nothing will happen 9/23. It is a false mainstream Christian misrepresentation of the actual message given by John in Revelation. 9/23 has been predicted for the last 3 years IN A ROW. Yet somehow this time it's different? OH WAIT, It's now Oct 12 and nothing happened..... Use this as a learning experience, guys. Fools will mock. He never said the fools were on which side of the argument.

There were many signs leading up to to the visit of Jesus to the Nephrite starting with day and night and day of light, and many signs after that - the people ignored it and the judgement came.. We are given the signs for a reason, and since 9/23 there has been unending almost daily catastrophic events. Like the Nephites people are becoming more and more less astonished at an event and claiming hoaxes or gov conspiracy, like the shooting in Vegas - just a drill and no one got injured or a gov false flag, or the - country music lovers deserved it as they are mostly Trump supporters, nothing to do with people becoming wicked and Satan taking over the hearts of the people. Those that cant see it are blind spiritually and are making excuses.

3 Nephi 2:1
1 And it came to pass that thus passed away the ninety and fifth year also, and the people began to forget those signs and wonders which they had heard, and began to be less and less astonished at a sign or a wonder from heaven, insomuch that they began to be hard in their hearts, and blind in their minds, and began to disbelieve all which they had heard and seen—
2 Imagining up some vain thing in their hearts, that it was wrought by men and by the power of the devil, to lead away and deceive the hearts of the people; and thus did Satan get possession of the hearts of the people again, insomuch that he did blind their eyes and lead them away to believe that the doctrine of Christ was a foolish and a vain thing.
3 And it came to pass that the people began to wax strong in wickedness and abominations; and they did not believe that there should be any more signs or wonders given; and Satan did go about, leading away the hearts of the people, tempting them and causing them that they should do great wickedness in the land.

I was going to PM you a question earlier but was unable to do so. Would you mind unfoeing / unblocking me? I'd like to get your thoughts on something.

lol I always wondered what was the "foe" button for, sweet. Does it mean I can "foe" brianm and stop him from sending me PM warnings?

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lol I always wondered what was the "foe" button for, sweet. Does it mean I can "foe" brianm and stop him from sending me PM warnings?

I used an old email account from a web page that I designed very many years ago that no longer exists so brianm is unable to email me be does send me PM when I am being naughty - you won't believe it but I have toned down my rhetoric a fair bit.... This is me being nice.

I have no recollection of blocking any person except the free house man 'Robert". I just checked I have no friends or foe's, might of blocked all PM...
Any user can now send me PM - not sure why I had that blocked...

[Hivetyrant36]

My point was that Jupiter being in Virgo is a lie. It is 100% mistranslation and misread from revelation. I don't debate that there will be signs and people ignoring them, signs are happening all around us. I am just saying that this specific sign is false, and the date has been the same for the last 3 years, each doomsday prediction with different signs attached. If we watch, we will know when the Son of Man will come, but do not put stock into mainstream Christian ideas. We are LDS after all.

[Hivetyrant36]

Ah sorry I may have mixed up my volcano names lol. There are I think 34 active right now.

[Alaris]

My point was that Jupiter being in Virgo is a lie. It is 100% mistranslation and misread from revelation. I don't debate that there will be signs and people ignoring them, signs are happening all around us. I am just saying that this specific sign is false, and the date has been the same for the last 3 years, each doomsday prediction with different signs attached. If we watch, we will know when the Son of Man will come, but do not put stock into mainstream Christian ideas. We are LDS after all.

Spend five..maybe ten minutes looking into the sign and you'll none of what you said is true other than someone non lds discovered the alignment. Sort of like non Jews discovering the Star of Bethlehem who were described as wise men?

Download stellarium and you can reverse to the last three years and see for yourself all of that is nonsense and there was no alignment whatsoever. You may not want to casually throw around "100 %" around.

[Hivetyrant36]

My point was that Jupiter being in Virgo is a lie. It is 100% mistranslation and misread from revelation. I don't debate that there will be signs and people ignoring them, signs are happening all around us. I am just saying that this specific sign is false, and the date has been the same for the last 3 years, each doomsday prediction with different signs attached. If we watch, we will know when the Son of Man will come, but do not put stock into mainstream Christian ideas. We are LDS after all.

Spend five..maybe ten minutes looking into the sign and you'll none of what you said is true other than someone non lds discovered the alignment. Sort of like non Jews discovering the Star of Bethlehem who were described as wise men?

Download stellarium and you can reverse to the last three years and see for yourself all of that is nonsense and there was no alignment whatsoever. You may not want to casually throw around "100 %" around.

It is 100% a misunderstanding of what John wrote about. Believe what you want though. Also, I never said the constellation was happening in the past 3 years, I only said that in the last 3 consecutive years, I've heard religious zealots and fear mongers hammer away at Sept 23, 2015, 2016, and now 2017, and nothing has happened each time, each one with different reasoning and speculation as to why that specific date. 2015 everybody thought Nibiru would kill us all because of a Navy advertisement. 2016, everybody kept seeing 923 in movies all over the place. This year, the false translation and misrepresentation of John's words. John was not talking about constellations. The language of the prophets uses iconography, metaphor, and symbols. There are VERY few Christians, much less, Mormons, who understand the language of the prophets. Why do you think Joseph Smith held a "School of the Prophets?" To teach the language that was used in writing revelation. It is written like this so that one must dig deeper and actually care about learning. You cannot casually read the scriptures and come to any useful understanding of what they are conveying beneath the text. It is to keep the metaphorical Sagisees and Pharisees from understanding, as the words of Christ did when confronted with a condemning question.

[Alaris]

My point was that Jupiter being in Virgo is a lie. It is 100% mistranslation and misread from revelation. I don't debate that there will be signs and people ignoring them, signs are happening all around us. I am just saying that this specific sign is false, and the date has been the same for the last 3 years, each doomsday prediction with different signs attached. If we watch, we will know when the Son of Man will come, but do not put stock into mainstream Christian ideas. We are LDS after all.

Spend five..maybe ten minutes looking into the sign and you'll none of what you said is true other than someone non lds discovered the alignment. Sort of like non Jews discovering the Star of Bethlehem who were described as wise men?

Download stellarium and you can reverse to the last three years and see for yourself all of that is nonsense and there was no alignment whatsoever. You may not want to casually throw around "100 %" around.

It is 100% a misunderstanding of what John wrote about. Believe what you want though. Also, I never said the constellation was happening in the past 3 years, I only said that in the last 3 consecutive years, I've heard religious zealots and fear mongers hammer away at Sept 23, 2015, 2016, and now 2017, and nothing has happened each time, each one with different reasoning and speculation as to why that specific date. 2015 everybody thought Nibiru would kill us all because of a Navy advertisement. 2016, everybody kept seeing 923 in movies all over the place. This year, the false translation and misrepresentation of John's words. John was not talking about constellations. The language of the prophets uses iconography, metaphor, and symbols. There are VERY few Christians, much less, Mormons, who understand the language of the prophets. Why do you think Joseph Smith held a "School of the Prophets?" To teach the language that was used in writing revelation. It is written like this so that one must dig deeper and actually care about learning. You cannot casually read the scriptures and come to any useful understanding of what they are conveying beneath the text. It is to keep the metaphorical Sagisees and Pharisees from understanding, as the words of Christ did when confronted with a condemning question.

It's a 50 percent misunderstanding of what John wrote about. 9/23 was the sign - if you're willing to look into the other 50 percent with an open mind I'd be happy to share.

I find it funny that you and others say we are close (you say we are in) the cleansing of America and some say the second coming is just a few years away, yet somehow authoritatively state that this extremely rare alignment that so perfectly resembles Revelation 12 is nothing. It's quite amazing. We are LDS as you say. LDS are believers not scoffers. LDS know the model of learning and it doesn't start with "I already know better."

[Hivetyrant36]

My point was that Jupiter being in Virgo is a lie. It is 100% mistranslation and misread from revelation. I don't debate that there will be signs and people ignoring them, signs are happening all around us. I am just saying that this specific sign is false, and the date has been the same for the last 3 years, each doomsday prediction with different signs attached. If we watch, we will know when the Son of Man will come, but do not put stock into mainstream Christian ideas. We are LDS after all.

Spend five..maybe ten minutes looking into the sign and you'll none of what you said is true other than someone non lds discovered the alignment. Sort of like non Jews discovering the Star of Bethlehem who were described as wise men?

Download stellarium and you can reverse to the last three years and see for yourself all of that is nonsense and there was no alignment whatsoever. You may not want to casually throw around "100 %" around.

It is 100% a misunderstanding of what John wrote about. Believe what you want though. Also, I never said the constellation was happening in the past 3 years, I only said that in the last 3 consecutive years, I've heard religious zealots and fear mongers hammer away at Sept 23, 2015, 2016, and now 2017, and nothing has happened each time, each one with different reasoning and speculation as to why that specific date. 2015 everybody thought Nibiru would kill us all because of a Navy advertisement. 2016, everybody kept seeing 923 in movies all over the place. This year, the false translation and misrepresentation of John's words. John was not talking about constellations. The language of the prophets uses iconography, metaphor, and symbols. There are VERY few Christians, much less, Mormons, who understand the language of the prophets. Why do you think Joseph Smith held a "School of the Prophets?" To teach the language that was used in writing revelation. It is written like this so that one must dig deeper and actually care about learning. You cannot casually read the scriptures and come to any useful understanding of what they are conveying beneath the text. It is to keep the metaphorical Sagisees and Pharisees from understanding, as the words of Christ did when confronted with a condemning question.

It's a 50 percent misunderstanding of what John wrote about. 9/23 was the sign - if you're willing to look into the other 50 percent with an open mind I'd be happy to share.

I find it funny that you and others say we are close (you say we are in) the cleansing of America and some say the second coming is just a few years away, yet somehow authoritatively state that this extremely rare alignment that so perfectly resembles Revelation 12 is nothing. It's quite amazing. We are LDS as you say. LDS are believers not scoffers. LDS know the model of learning and it doesn't start with "I already know better."

Oh, trust me I've looked into the fake constellation Jupiter thing. You assume I haven't done any research, or that I am claiming to be some all knowledgeable dude without putting forth the effort. 9/23 It is 100% a lie. LDS are not believers or scoffers, they are people. They come from all walks of life. There is no LDS model of learning. The alignment resembling R12 is nothing but coincidence, and the actual words and messages of John are completely lost in this age of science and forgetting humanity's past. My opinions on the state of the world have no relevance to one false prophecy. I can still think a frog can live and swim in water if I see toads on land. You assume that my problem (because if I don't have a problem then you are wrong, and we can't have that now can we) is that I haven't seen your side of the argument or looked into the false prophecy. I have, and I even believed it for a time. The difference between you and me is that you have not experienced my side of the argument, and I surely will not give it here under such hostile opposition. Cast not your pearls before swine as it were. You believe in 9/23 emotionally and with pride.

As you have invited me to learn, I too will invite you to learn. I have several resources. However, I doubt you will be open-minded enough to even consider my point of view. Send me a PM if you are a true advocate of learning, but note that you will not receive a reply if you intend to uphold your emotional standpoint on this issue.

The spirit does not give confirmation unless the person is willing to accept the answer and act upon it.

[Alaris]

Spend five..maybe ten minutes looking into the sign and you'll none of what you said is true other than someone non lds discovered the alignment. Sort of like non Jews discovering the Star of Bethlehem who were described as wise men?

Download stellarium and you can reverse to the last three years and see for yourself all of that is nonsense and there was no alignment whatsoever. You may not want to casually throw around "100 %" around.

It is 100% a misunderstanding of what John wrote about. Believe what you want though. Also, I never said the constellation was happening in the past 3 years, I only said that in the last 3 consecutive years, I've heard religious zealots and fear mongers hammer away at Sept 23, 2015, 2016, and now 2017, and nothing has happened each time, each one with different reasoning and speculation as to why that specific date. 2015 everybody thought Nibiru would kill us all because of a Navy advertisement. 2016, everybody kept seeing 923 in movies all over the place. This year, the false translation and misrepresentation of John's words. John was not talking about constellations. The language of the prophets uses iconography, metaphor, and symbols. There are VERY few Christians, much less, Mormons, who understand the language of the prophets. Why do you think Joseph Smith held a "School of the Prophets?" To teach the language that was used in writing revelation. It is written like this so that one must dig deeper and actually care about learning. You cannot casually read the scriptures and come to any useful understanding of what they are conveying beneath the text. It is to keep the metaphorical Sagisees and Pharisees from understanding, as the words of Christ did when confronted with a condemning question.

It's a 50 percent misunderstanding of what John wrote about. 9/23 was the sign - if you're willing to look into the other 50 percent with an open mind I'd be happy to share.

I find it funny that you and others say we are close (you say we are in) the cleansing of America and some say the second coming is just a few years away, yet somehow authoritatively state that this extremely rare alignment that so perfectly resembles Revelation 12 is nothing. It's quite amazing. We are LDS as you say. LDS are believers not scoffers. LDS know the model of learning and it doesn't start with "I already know better."

Oh, trust me I've looked into the fake constellation Jupiter thing. You assume I haven't done any research, or that I am claiming to be some all knowledgeable dude without putting forth the effort. 9/23 It is 100% a lie. LDS are not believers or scoffers, they are people. They come from all walks of life. There is no LDS model of learning. The alignment resembling R12 is nothing but coincidence, and the actual words and messages of John are completely lost in this age of science and forgetting humanity's past. My opinions on the state of the world have no relevance to one false prophecy. I can still think a frog can live and swim in water if I see toads on land. You assume that my problem (because if I don't have a problem then you are wrong, and we can't have that now can we) is that I haven't seen your side of the argument or looked into the false prophecy. I have, and I even believed it for a time. The difference between you and me is that you have not experienced my side of the argument, and I surely will not give it here under such hostile opposition. Cast not your pearls before swine as it were. You believe in 9/23 emotionally and with pride.

As you have invited me to learn, I too will invite you to learn. I have several resources. However, I doubt you will be open-minded enough to even consider my point of view. Send me a PM if you are a true advocate of learning, but note that you will not receive a reply if you intend to uphold your emotional standpoint on this issue.

The spirit does not give confirmation unless the person is willing to accept the answer and act upon it.

Trust you? You said the same alignment happened the last three years. It doesn't - not even close. So you haven't researched that at the very least.

I have made no such statement other than I have received a witness and invite you to look into it with an open heart which you haven't. You have assumed from the beginning it was false because it didn't come from LDS - so where is the pride? I studied this sign in humility and I have been rewarded with several witness after the trial of my faith. So now 9/23 is conviction now. Try to see that from my perspective. God himself confirms a sign to you. Some LDS guy online says it's false based off false information. Would you be swayed?

Those who come here dissing the sign haven't looked into it with an open heart and it's clear as day to see ... 100 % of the time.

That's a fantastic use of the pearls versus swine here. When someone comes here claiming to know better based of false information - easily proven false - then it's best to hold the pearls close and not share such. The Jews already knew better than to believe a carpenter's son so the Master withheld the finer points for his disciples encoded in parables.

And there an unbelievable amount of LDS scoffers - you appear to be one of them scoffing how something is false as though you have authority to declare such and minimize those who believe.

What is interesting is not a single person who has contested me on 9/23 has shown fruits of learning through humility, study, and prayer. They have all done the following - every single one of them:

A."known better" from the beginning
B. have hilariously declared "nothing happened"
C. Scoffed / mocked those that believe

All three of those are baffling! How can you look at any heavenly alignment and authoritatively declare "nothing" or "nothing happened??" How can you unbelievers miss the irony of the star of bethlehem and see that every single reason you give for disbelief can be said of the star. Nothing happened when the star appeared after all - at least nothing to those who didn't believe. And when is it every appropriate to mock or scoff at another's belief? You have already made a statement that the Lord didn't mention which side of the argument "fools mock" applies to which reflects zero understanding of the scripture and further removes credibility.

You've now attempted to make it look as though you considered both sides and have some secret pearl but still left out the fact you never studied this in humility and prayer as I have. You know you have not. I've seen many of your posts on here where you make all sorts of declarative statements while talking down to those who may have a contrary mind as though to shame them away from even trying to engage you. This is not the spirit of Christ. The spirit of Christ is one of invitation and elevation, not shaming and shutting.

Before you lump me in with that trend, I invite you again to consider the sign in humility and prayer. It is far better to admit wrong and wrongdoing & learn something new than it is win an argument online.

Edit: I almost forgot to bring this around to the thread topic. Even the heathen media is asking what's going on with all the mayhem before and after the 9/23 sign, and after the eclipse on 8/21. So to try to say the destruction of america has begun yet 9/23 was definitely not a sign of anything while the world quakes, floods, burns, and declares war on each other - should be at least a little troubling to you.

[Alaris]

Hivetyrant36 is coming from an Anthony Larsen point of view. He is using the language of Anthony Larsen, so he has obviously studied his writings or taken his course. As such, his understanding of prophecy is markedly different than what most Christians and Mormons think of. Which view is correct? Anthony Larsen's view is more correct, given that it uses plasma cosmology and catastrophism as its model.

Something anyone can study and pray about in humility and discover for themselves and not have to take yours or my word for it.

[Hivetyrant36]

Amaris, the fact that you still haven’t grasped that I am not saying that the alignment has happened every year, but rather the prediction of the end of the world on the date 9/23 and ONLY the date for the past 3 years in a row means you are not paying attention to what I am writing. Either that or you are intentionally ignoring parts and rebutting in an attempt to discredit me in favor of your own story. That doesn’t sound like somebody with revelation to me. It sounds like whining. Throwing a temper tantrum.

You are nothing but a sucker pulled into yet another popular “the world is going to end” psyop, Except this time it is coming from the Christian community who do not understand revelation.

Saying I won’t tell you does not prove me wrong, it means I can see that you are hostile and anything I share will go over your head, so why bother wasting the effort.
Nice wall of text though, good to see you get emotional when defending your so called “revelation.” Just further proves that you don’t believe it because you think it’s true, you believe it to make yourself feel better, to feel important and included.

[Hivetyrant36]

Hivetyrant36 is coming from an Anthony Larsen point of view. He is using the language of Anthony Larsen, so he has obviously studied his writings or taken his course. As such, his understanding of prophecy is markedly different than what most Christians and Mormons think of. Which view is correct? Anthony Larsen's view is more correct, given that it uses plasma cosmology and catastrophism as its model.

Yes exactly. He’s done some good work. I think its smart to say “more correct” because after all, he is just a man. I am also using information from the Thunderbolts Project on youtube, as well as scripture and my own revelatory experiences. I fight against the 9/23 so hard because I too was once sucked into the world ending doomsayers. I know what it’s like to believe something based on a desire to be a part of something, and not real interpretations or evidence.

[Alaris]

Amaris, the fact that you still haven’t grasped that I am not saying that the alignment has happened every year, but rather the prediction of the end of the world on the date 9/23 and ONLY the date for the past 3 years in a row means you are not paying attention to what I am writing. Either that or you are intentionally ignoring parts and rebutting in an attempt to discredit me in favor of your own story. That doesn’t sound like somebody with revelation to me. It sounds like whining. Throwing a temper tantrum.

You are nothing but a sucker pulled into yet another popular “the world is going to end” psyop, Except this time it is coming from the Christian community who do not understand revelation.

Saying I won’t tell you does not prove me wrong, it means I can see that you are hostile and anything I share will go over your head, so why bother wasting the effort.
Nice wall of text though, good to see you get emotional when defending your so called “revelation.” Just further proves that you don’t believe it because you think it’s true, you believe it to make yourself feel better, to feel important and included.

Lots if personal attacks there to help build your credibility even further.

You claim I'm not paying attention to what you say yet perhaps you should read through my posts on 9/23...again with an open heart if you can muster.

Let's say for the sake of argument that 9/23 was a sign heralding the birth of the kingdom of God being at hand (Ether 4) and not the end of the world as I have carefully laid out on my blog.

Now lets say the veil-less devil is aware of the date. What might he do other than try to stir LDS hearts in anger over the sign (lol)?

Despite your accusations I'm quite calm. Name calling and personal attacks in fact are a sign of someone losing their cool in addition to indicating a lack of something otherwise substantitive to say.

Back to the point. Might the devil work overtime to stifle the sign by leading up to it with false prophets making false prophecies? Might he try to bury the sign itself with false conclusions and prophecies? Might that be an intelligent move by an intelligent being to bury the truth? Might he then stir up those who will listen to scornfully mock those who believe the sign?

You've admitted several times now you've never considered this sign because you've been burned before so now you "know better." Score one more for the devil... You know if this hypothetical is true. Which it is.

Again I'll mention for the sake of those who haven't hardened their hearts to the signs of the time that the complicit media is even wondering what all the destruction and distress of nations is all about... You know like the scriptures say... So to see people claiming to be LDS attempting to minimize and sweep it all under the rug is curious indeed.

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

As long as I'm not paying attention to your words I'm fairly certain you posted elsewhere that we are approaching the end times and the cleansing. I believe 9/23 is a marker... A sign to the believer of the heralding of the birth of the kingdom of God, the gathering of Israel, and the judgement of the wicked including the cleansing of America. So if I understood you correctly then our beliefs very much align.

Here is the marvelous quote to which I believe you have referred at least twice now:

“Judah must return, Jerusalem must be rebuilt, and the temple, and water come out from under the temple, and the waters of the Dead Sea be healed. It will take some time to rebuild the walls of the city and the temple, and etc.; and all this must be done before the Son of Man will make His appearance. There will be wars and rumors of wars, signs in the heavens above and on the earth beneath, the sun turned into darkness and the moon to blood, earthquakes in divers places, the seas heaving beyond their bounds; then will appear one grand sign of the Son of Man in heaven. But what will the world do? They will say it is a planet, a comet, etc. But the Son of man will come as the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, which will be as the light of the morning cometh out of the east” (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 286–87)