Doom coming on Sept. 23rd?

[friendsofthe]

There is a very specific reason why I don’t take this Rev 12 thing seriously. It’s because of the fact that I had spent considerable time on Rev 12, long before this latest theory became popular. I believe that I’ve long known what it’s about and it’s nothing to do with astronomy. I therefore believe that what has been promoted on this topic will all prove to be nothing but hype…

Not trying to suppress anyone’s right to believe what he or she want to believe or think. If any of you have posted volumes of info on this subject and think I’ve read it and that I’m mocking you, you’re wrong. I haven’t read it! I’m a serious student of prophecy and don’t have time to spend on this stuff other to take a moment to have a little fun with it. In doing so I’ve not pointed fingers at any person, just believe that this thing is going to fall flat on it’s face.

We shall all know soon enough, right?

I’m not a big follower of Avraham Gileadi but would be interested in reading what he had to say about this. Would someone like to post it?

[Alaris]

There is a very specific reason why I don’t take this Rev 12 thing seriously. It’s because of the fact that I had spent considerable time on Rev 12, long before this latest theory became popular. I believe that I’ve long known what it’s about and it’s nothing to do with astronomy. I therefore believe that what has been promoted on this topic will all prove to be nothing but hype…

Not trying to suppress anyone’s right to believe what he or she want to believe or think. If any of you have posted volumes of info on this subject and think I’ve read it and that I’m mocking you, you’re wrong. I haven’t read it! I’m a serious student of prophecy and don’t have time to spend on this stuff other to take a moment to have a little fun with it. In doing so I’ve not pointed fingers at any person, just believe that this thing is going to fall flat on it’s face.

We shall all know soon enough, right?

I’m not a big follower of Avraham Gileadi but would be interested in reading what he had to say about this. Would someone like to post it?

This is what I posted back in June:

http://lordoftheseraphim.blogspot.com/2 ... aimer.html

Here is the JST for

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great sign in heaven, in the likeness of things on the earth; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.

To me this reads as a sign in the sky in the likeness of things on earth. If not stars, then what?

[Rosevhs]

The question is one of belief or unbelief: “He that believeth shall be blest with signs following, even as it is written. And unto you it shall be given to know the signs of the times, and the signs of the coming of the Son of Man” (Doctrine & Covenants 68:10–11); “And it shall come to pass that he that feareth me shall be looking forth for the great day of the Lord to come, even for the signs of the coming of the Son of Man. And they shall see signs and wonders, for they shall be shown forth in the heavens above, and in the earth beneath” (Doctrine & Covenants 45:39–40).

[Jonesy]

A long time ago after learning about the Josephite and that he was in a box, I asked the Lord for a series of very specific signs (witnesses), by which I would know when the man was about to come out of his box. Not one of those signs that I asked for has happened, yet. Therefore, this 23rd thing, although interesting as a shadow sign, is not significant to me. If, however, one of those other signs I asked for happens on or before that date, well then that would be a horse of a different color.

What are the signs, if I may?

[skmo]

I've been reading a few posts about something that's supposed to happen on Sept. 23rd... Nothing is going to happen! That's what I say...

What do you say?

Of course nothing's going to happen. BYU has a bye that week. The following week is possible because we play USU that week, but we've got a good chance there. More likely doom will come the week thereafter, October 6. We play Boise State that week. Talk about doom, we have a .286 record against them.

[Love]

Womans Conference comes on 9/23/2017 the day of the Sign of the Woman. I'm excited to hear any jewels that come from it.

[Love]

Alaris
The things you wrote in other posts about Rev 12 are fascinating. I tend to think there are no coincidences when it comes to God, Planet rotations and symbols of Christ. I believe scripture has layers of meaning to satisfy the greatest and simplist of minds. The Three Wise Men followed a Sign, that not many others even seemed to know about. With all the technology we have people are still in the dark.

[friendsofthe]

LDS Anarchist, thanks for posting the link to Gileadi’s comments.

I’ve read just a little of what he’s had to say in the past but in the end I felt that he was just another guy writing commentary. Nothing I’ve read got me excited to learn more…. Not when I can feel the power and light that flows from the standard works…

Anyway, now that he’s committed himself on the significance of Sept 23 it makes the whole event somewhat more interesting. However, nothing he said convinces me that he knows what he’s talking about… It will be interesting to see how he reacts if nothing happens…

[Alaris]

LDS Anarchist, thanks for posting the link to Gileadi’s comments.

I’ve read just a little of what he’s had to say in the past but in the end I felt that he was just another guy writing commentary. Nothing I’ve read got me excited to learn more…. Not when I can feel the power and light that flows from the standard works…

Anyway, now that he’s committed himself on the significance of Sept 23 it makes the whole event somewhat more interesting. However, nothing he said convinces me that he knows what he’s talking about… It will be interesting to see how he reacts if nothing happens…

Was he predicting something massive? As I recall he believes as do I that the sign marks the calling of the Davidic Servant. He also threw in the marring and translation, all of which can be an extremely private affair.

[friendsofthe]

Alaris wrote:
Was he predicting something massive? As I recall he believes as do I that the sign marks the calling of the Davidic Servant. He also threw in the marring and translation, all of which can be an extremely private affair.

So in other words, there is not going to be any proof, right?

[skmo]

I tend to think there are no coincidences when it comes to God, Planet rotations and symbols of Christ.

-To borrow a line from Elim Garak, one of my favorite characters on Star Trek: Deep Space 9:

I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences.

Simple numbers would indicate there would almost certainly have to be some coincidences in the Universe, considering the innumerable galaxies in our Universe, stars in those galaxies, worlds around those stars, other bodies about which we know little or nothing, what life may be on those planets, the creatures living on those planets, the molecules making up those creatures, the atoms making up those molecules, the sub-atomic particles making up those atoms, and all the other levels of creation we know and theorize about all the way down to String Theory, where things are made up of one dimensional strings. Somewhere in this existence there are coincidences. Some are indeed likely to be signs of one kind or another. However, for us to be able to decipher most of these without guidance from God seems somewhat like two plague bacterium discussing what kind of dog their flea is on.

One of the unfortunate side effects of this is that there are many charlatans eager to pounce on scripture to show why their interpretation of scriptural symbolism is an accurate way to follow them to follow God.

[Goonerboy]

There is something about this sign coming on the 23rd September. I do not believe it will be a Rapture or the End of the world but the fact that the Lord thought it important enough for John to record it in the book of Revelation means it is significant. This is a one off event as there has never been 12 stars over the head of the virgin before according to Astronomers. Is the red Dragon Nibiru or Nemesis? We only have a few days to wait and see.
Exciting times!!

Just be ready to be mocked by the prophecy police if nothing overt happens on that day.

Yep!! What will they say if something does happen? It will all go quiet.

Don't hold your breath. Lots has happened since the lunar eclipse on 8/21 and the same prophecy policemen are saying "nothing to see her folks" which is why saying "nothing will happen" without even an inquiry to the Lord is a setting oneself up for a poor choice later on. Tow the line or *gasp* admit wrong. I'll say it here again - I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong about 9/23 even if there are no outward signs. I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong if and when we find out this wasn't the sign in Revelation 12 calling for the man child to rule all nations with a rod of iron, though we won't necessarily know that on 9/24 sadly.

I meant the Prophesy Police would go quiet it things happen. Sorry if I did not explain myself properly.

[Alaris]

Alaris
The things you wrote in other posts about Rev 12 are fascinating. I tend to think there are no coincidences when it comes to God, Planet rotations and symbols of Christ. I believe scripture has layers of meaning to satisfy the greatest and simplist of minds. The Three Wise Men followed a Sign, that not many others even seemed to know about. With all the technology we have people are still in the dark.

Thank you Love. I don't think I've ever thanked Love directly before, but it feels good! Welcome to the forums!

[Alaris]

Alaris wrote:
Was he predicting something massive? As I recall he believes as do I that the sign marks the calling of the Davidic Servant. He also threw in the marring and translation, all of which can be an extremely private affair.

So in other words, there is not going to be any proof, right?

Perhaps I'm misreading your tone. Correct me if I am, but am I detecting some scoffing? Can you imagine if the Internet existed in Jesus day and one of the wisemen tried to blog about it and someone responded to him, "So In other words, there is not going to be any proof?"

There wasn't any proof then either was there? Just a star and a baby. Proof didn't manifest for 30 years. Fortunately we won't have to wait that long.

Yet there have been signs, haven't there? Earthquakes - four in the last 24 hours alone - hurricanes, fires, and seven solar flares over seven days during a solar minimum baffling scientists. That number certainly reinforces the theme of what I've been writing about. And these signs reinforce what is said in the scriptures.

Luke 21:25 ¶ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Certainly all of those qualify with what's happened between 8/21 (that's the solar eclipse) and now:

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That's an image from the TV show "the sign" about 9/23--Brilliant point about there being 40 days between 8/21 and yom kippur.

Here's a very relevant scripture someone else posted in another thread:

3 Nephi 2:1 And it came to pass that thus passed away the ninety and fifth year also, and the people began to forget those signs and wonders which they had heard, and began to be less and less astonished at a sign or a wonder from heaven, insomuch that they began to be hard in their hearts, and blind in their minds, and began to disbelieve all which they had heard and seen—

2 Imagining up some vain thing in their hearts, that it was wrought by men and by the power of the devil, to lead away and deceive the hearts of the people; and thus did Satan get possession of the hearts of the people again, insomuch that he did blind their eyes and lead them away to believe that the doctrine of Christ was a foolish and a vain thing.

He also quoted Joseph Smith:

There will be wars and rumors of wars, signs in the heavens above and on the earth beneath, the sun turned into darkness and the moon to blood, earthquakes in divers places, the seas heaving beyond their bounds; then will appear one grand sign of the Son of Man in heaven. But what will the world do? They will say it is a planet, a comet, etc. But the Son of Man will come as the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, which will be as the light of the morning cometh out of the east

Sad to see so many LDS scoffing and mocking those looking for these signs.

D&C 45:39 And it shall come to pass that he that feareth me shall be looking forth for the great day of the Lord to come, even for the signs of the coming of the Son of Man.

I'll be looking forward to your response to see if I misread your tone.

[Spaced_Out]

Yet there have been signs, haven't there? Earthquakes - four in the last 24 hours alone - hurricanes, fires, and seven solar flares over seven days during a solar minimum baffling scientists. That number certainly reinforces the theme of what I've been writing about. And these signs reinforce what is said in the scriptures.

The mega sunspot that gave off the big killer shot (CME) while facing away from the earth, will be earth facing around the 23rd Sept.
Will have to wait and see what happens with the Hurricanes.

[Spaced_Out]

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I looked it up and thought it strange that General Conference is on the final date 30 Sept... 9/30

[Spaced_Out]

The big sings from the visions the people have published is earthquake hitting SLC, there have been plenty of warning tremors lately that is a very scary omen.

https://earthquaketrack.com/us-ut-salt-lake-city/recent

[gardener4life]

It's pretty obvious that things are heating up. And things will happen. We just don't know if they will happen on that day. I think that people trying to pinpoint a specific day could get into trouble by thinking it can ONLY happen on that day but then right after they let their guard down it will happen. And saying nothing happens or will it happen is like denying the articles of Faith. We have the example also of the Christians in the Book of Mormon waiting for the signs of Samuel the Lamanite, while others argued that the signs had already passed without happening, OR that they would never come to pass. And when they did come to pass those that were trying to destroy what was good or too caught up in the world were struck as if they were dead they were so shocked that such a thing came when they least expected it.

Remember the articles of faith! Specically # 7 applies here! We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth. #9 also applies; We believe all that God has revealed, all that he does now reveal and we believe that he will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

All we have to do is keep it simple. We know things are heating up and that they are very truly exceedingly heating up. That's as good as we need to say.

Consider this verse also; 3 Nephi 8:5 ....and there arose a great storm, such as one as never had been known in all the land...
We had a type of this verse shown unto us as a sign to repent.

We tell ourselves that we repent and repented but if think about repenting on Jesus terms we haven't changed to an increase of love to God. And we pray for repentance while still pushing out the poor and the needy; neglecting love thy neighbor. I think people are disconnecting repentance should probably connect with those two ideas.

[SmallFarm]

So far the only ones I can see implying something happening on a specific date are the naysayers saying "nothing" will happen. Since most of us that believe in it being a sign are not implying anything specific happening, it's obvious to me whom the false prophets are

[skmo]

So far the only ones I can see implying something happening on a specific date are the naysayers saying "nothing" will happen.

If, by September 23 I have still had NOTHING happen, I can tell you unequivocally that something WILL happen:

My 30th wedding anniversary is September 24. If I've done "nothing" by then to celebrate with my wife, I can see all kinds of doom and gloom coming.

30 years stuck with me. Pray for my poor, sweet wife.

[shadow]

Sept. 23rd weather forecast-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHW1T7boSc

[Alaris]

Sept. 23rd weather forecast-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbHW1T7boSc

The flood fire which we are now referring to as a flire. LOL

So what shall we call the goings on?

Hurricanes
Fires
Earthquakes
Solar Flares

Hurrifirequakeflares?

[skmo]

Hurrifirequakeflares?

If we're going to focus on combinations, I like Mac's idea from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D for a shotgunaxe:
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[Elizabeth]

It is now Saturday the 23 September, 2017 here on the East Coast of Australia.

[skmo]

It is now Saturday the 23 September, 2017 here on the East Coast of Australia.

Be sure to let us know as soon as the hail-fire starts to fall from the sky.