Feelings From The Holy Ghost About End-Times Tribulations: Stronger or Weaker? (POLL)

[KurtTheMormon]

According to your own feelings, prayer, insight, scriptural study, etc... Do you think that the possibility is growing, staying the same, or growing less that the Trials and Tribulations are close at hand? Please explain why you feel this way, and how close or far you believe they are from happening.

[setyourselffree]

According to your own feelings, prayer, insight, scriptural study, etc... Do you think that the possibility is growing, staying the same, or growing less that the Trials and Tribulations are close at hand? Please explain why you feel this way, and how close or far you believe they are from happening.

Trials and tribulations start as soon as we are born into this world.

[KurtTheMormon]

According to your own feelings, prayer, insight, scriptural study, etc... Do you think that the possibility is growing, staying the same, or growing less that the Trials and Tribulations are close at hand? Please explain why you feel this way, and how close or far you believe they are from happening.

Trials and tribulations start as soon as we are born into this world.

I'm talking about the end times type.

[setyourselffree]

According to your own feelings, prayer, insight, scriptural study, etc... Do you think that the possibility is growing, staying the same, or growing less that the Trials and Tribulations are close at hand? Please explain why you feel this way, and how close or far you believe they are from happening.

Trials and tribulations start as soon as we are born into this world.

I'm talking about the end times.

Many people are right now experiencing apocalyptic trials in this world. Look at Haiti or Venezuela. The trials and tribulations are here they have been here for thousands of years.

[kirtland r.m.]

According to your own feelings, prayer, insight, scriptural study, etc... Do you think that the possibility is growing, staying the same, or growing less that the Trials and Tribulations are close at hand? Please explain why you feel this way, and how close or far you believe they are from happening.

Trials and tribulations start as soon as we are born into this world.

I'm talking about the end times.

Many people are right now experiencing apocalyptic trials in this world. Look at Haiti or Venezuela. The trials and tribulations are here they have been here for thousands of years.

They appear to be accelerating. This is foretold by the scriptures. A common theme in general con. is we are in a darkening world, things are as in the days of Noah were peoples thoughts were evil continually, ect.. Google conf. and you will find many of these quotes.

[setyourselffree]

Trials and tribulations start as soon as we are born into this world.

I'm talking about the end times.

Many people are right now experiencing apocalyptic trials in this world. Look at Haiti or Venezuela. The trials and tribulations are here they have been here for thousands of years.

They appear to be accelerating.

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

[Sunain]

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

That's the thing isn't it. We have had way better living conditions worldwide since the end of WW2, even now. We complain about health care, housing, ect but ask anyone that lived through WW2 and they wouldn't trade living in today's world for anything. Things have to get A LOT worse worldwide before End-Times Tribulations. We literally need to be in WW3/WW4 to have anything close to the tribulations that we won't be able to recover from and will require the Savior to return.

[gangbusters]

I'm talking about the end times.

Many people are right now experiencing apocalyptic trials in this world. Look at Haiti or Venezuela. The trials and tribulations are here they have been here for thousands of years.

They appear to be accelerating.

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

I think I understand setyourselffree's point and I completely get where he's coming from. Many times I've thought how the Saints during WW1/WW2 must've thought the end was any minute because of the scope and severity of those wars, and the incredible suffering it caused.

In many ways we're far better off than the world was then, but it also seems that ungodliness, immorality, self centeredness, assaults on the family, etc., are so intense, etc. Whereas the first two world wars were largely the offspring of a few nut jobs in very high places, the wickedness we see now is far more pervasive, and I'm not trying to diminish the world wars.

[kirtland r.m.]

I'm talking about the end times.

Many people are right now experiencing apocalyptic trials in this world. Look at Haiti or Venezuela. The trials and tribulations are here they have been here for thousands of years.

They appear to be accelerating.

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

Yes, those were extremely hard times, much evil. There were still enough righteous to warrant the Lord's protection.
Starting in the 1960's America began a downward slide that continues. Think we are not far from the bottom? Gay pride colors projected across the White House exterior, male and female restrooms opened to anyone, abortion the sacrament of Satan, and the left and birth control forced upon taxpayers, explosion of immorality, ect. ect. ect.. The righteous hope that people will take off the blinders and not be deceived. As in S. and G. the Lord will not continue to send down innocent spirits for much longer I believe. I can assure you that that impression comes from the H.G..

[Fishwalker]

Let's see if we are getting any closer:

President Nelson, Oct. '16 GC:
These are the latter days, so none of us should be surprised when we see prophecy fulfilled. A host of prophets, including Isaiah, Paul, Nephi, and Mormon, foresaw that perilous times would come, that in our day the whole world would be in commotion, that men would “be lovers of their own selves, … without natural affection, … lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,” and that many would become servants of Satan who uphold the adversary’s work. Indeed, you and I “wrestle … against the rulers of the darkness of this world, [and] against spiritual wickedness in high places. As conflicts between nations escalate, as cowardly terrorists prey on the innocent, and as corruption in everything from business to government becomes increasingly commonplace, what can help us? What can help each of us with our personal struggles and with the rigorous challenge of living in these latter days?

President Eyring, Oct. '16 GC:
The times we will pass through will have in them hard trials, as they did for the people of Alma under the cruel Amulon, who put burdens on their backs too heavy for them to bear.

[brianj]

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

That's the thing isn't it. We have had way better living conditions worldwide since the end of WW2, even now. We complain about health care, housing, ect but ask anyone that lived through WW2 and they wouldn't trade living in today's world for anything. Things have to get A LOT worse worldwide before End-Times Tribulations. We literally need to be in WW3/WW4 to have anything close to the tribulations that we won't be able to recover from and will require the Savior to return.

I think you and I are focusing on different things. Yes, there was a lot of widespread violence during the world wars, but how much wickedness was there? Was there a growing belief that parents shouldn't be allowed to parent their own children? Was immorality at such a high level that people could face social persecution and even lose jobs for opposing the idea of homosexuals being legally married? Was pornography so widespread that it even infects mainstream advertising?

This morning I turned on the TV and found a rerun of Married with Children. In a TV episode from 1991 I saw slutty girls dressed conservatively enough to be considered modest, maybe even old fashioned, by today's standards. The clothing worn by "good" female characters on TV today would have been considered indecent 25 years ago. And girls in the real world are dressing the same way those television characters are dressing. Morality is in freefall today, and not just sexual morality. There is an increasing number of people who believe that the government should completely provide for them, denying personal responsibility for their own support. Illicit drugs are used more widely than ever before, and are even being legalized at the state level.

When you focus on the violence of war in the African, European, and Pacific theaters during World War 2, or the wartime rationing and shortages on the US homefront, it is easy to say things are better now. But looking at moral decay and how quickly the population of Americans who regularly attend church is declining, I don't know how any Godly individual can say that we are better off now.

[shadow]

Obviously the tribulations are nearer. Next year they'll even be a year closer than they already are today and the following year even closer.
That said- if you've been gullible enough to think the Holy Ghost has testified to you that Menet, Rowe, Sosa, Kahn and others are true messengers then know that you're listening to the wrong spirit and you're deceived.

[setyourselffree]

I would not be surprised if Christ came tomorrow or 100 years from now. We need to live like he is here already. I also believe when things don't progress as fast as some think, some members will lose faith that Christ will ever come.

[Original_Intent]

I wouldn't say the spirit has told me, it just seems like things are getting very bad. This election cycle has left me pretty much with no hope, and I don't think the cleansing is going to be much fun for any of us.

[Alaris]

I am closing (hopefully) on a home next week. The Spirit has communicated to me strongly that we need to get into this home at this time and it cannot be any later. The fact that the presidential election is right after is not lost on me.

[GrandMasterB]

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

That's the thing isn't it. We have had way better living conditions worldwide since the end of WW2, even now. We complain about health care, housing, ect but ask anyone that lived through WW2 and they wouldn't trade living in today's world for anything. Things have to get A LOT worse worldwide before End-Times Tribulations. We literally need to be in WW3/WW4 to have anything close to the tribulations that we won't be able to recover from and will require the Savior to return.

It has to be this good so the prophesy can be fulfilled that people will say all is well in Zion. The judgement will come suddenly to those who aren't watching. I believe the signs are here that judgement is coming soon.

[GrandMasterB]

Compared to WWW1 or 11?

That's the thing isn't it. We have had way better living conditions worldwide since the end of WW2, even now. We complain about health care, housing, ect but ask anyone that lived through WW2 and they wouldn't trade living in today's world for anything. Things have to get A LOT worse worldwide before End-Times Tribulations. We literally need to be in WW3/WW4 to have anything close to the tribulations that we won't be able to recover from and will require the Savior to return.

I think you and I are focusing on different things. Yes, there was a lot of widespread violence during the world wars, but how much wickedness was there? Was there a growing belief that parents shouldn't be allowed to parent their own children? Was immorality at such a high level that people could face social persecution and even lose jobs for opposing the idea of homosexuals being legally married? Was pornography so widespread that it even infects mainstream advertising?

This morning I turned on the TV and found a rerun of Married with Children. In a TV episode from 1991 I saw slutty girls dressed conservatively enough to be considered modest, maybe even old fashioned, by today's standards. The clothing worn by "good" female characters on TV today would have been considered indecent 25 years ago. And girls in the real world are dressing the same way those television characters are dressing. Morality is in freefall today, and not just sexual morality. There is an increasing number of people who believe that the government should completely provide for them, denying personal responsibility for their own support. Illicit drugs are used more widely than ever before, and are even being legalized at the state level.

When you focus on the violence of war in the African, European, and Pacific theaters during World War 2, or the wartime rationing and shortages on the US homefront, it is easy to say things are better now. But looking at moral decay and how quickly the population of Americans who regularly attend church is declining, I don't know how any Godly individual can say that we are better off now.

We are indeed way better off temporally and hence the all is well in Zion crowd feels safe. Yet spiritually we are rotting as a people. A division is growing between the righteous and the wicked and soon no one will be able to stay on the fence.

I would like to add that Married With Children looks like Sesame Street compared to the filth on TV today.

BTW do you remember this? ;)

[GrandMasterB]

Obviously the tribulations are nearer. Next year they'll even be a year closer than they already are today and the following year even closer.
That said- if you've been gullible enough to think the Holy Ghost has testified to you that Menet, Rowe, Sosa, Kahn and others are true messengers then know that you're listening to the wrong spirit and you're deceived.

What does Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek have to do with this?

[I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS]

I also believe when things don't progress as fast as some think, some members will lose faith that Christ will ever come.

We know this to be the case. Vaughn J Featherstone said as much in one of his many great talks.

"Before the Savior comes the world will darken. There will come a period of time where even the elect will lose hope if they do not come to the temples."

I've always thought it made sense that things will be so bad that believers in Christ's return will be convinced he'll come any day, but as the years go by without it happening some will question the truth and lose hope.

[Oxbow]

I voted for the last one. I am borderline ready to stop visiting this forum, honestly. After Julie Rowe turned out to be a nutcase and prediction after prediction by others fell through, I realized nobody has ANY idea what they're talking about anymore. When I watch conference, my feeling is that we are still many, many years off from the second coming. I believe the world will get much, much worse before that happens.

[Bronco73idi]

New here, been reading much on this site, tons of great knowledge.

I am closing (hopefully) on a home next week. The Spirit has communicated to me strongly that we need to get into this home at this time and it cannot be any later. The fact that the presidential election is right after is not lost on me.

Like alaris I too have the feeling of haste from the Holy Ghost. Today at work while pondering this topic (how soon) I remembered the part of the 6th seal no one really talks about.

Rev 6, 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

The Holy Ghost testified to me that this will soon happen and that there is space of a half hour after this still.

You read about our time in the scriptures by the many wonderful prophets and you think once it starts hold on... Almost every example of prophecy being fullfilled takes a long time, Noah 400 years, revelation being part of the New Testament another 400ish years. This will be fast compared to those 2 miracles, but slower then mans desire of the time frame..

To me the Holy Ghost said major earthquakes, darkness on the earth, lots of confusion and end of day talking. But then another half hour (21 years) before major happenings for the whole earth again. Will Ezra eagle happen like LDS author Micheal Rush thinks?

http://thelost10tribes.com/?page_id=33" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Will we be building the new Jerusalem during the 21 years? Who knows!!!

[HorribleUsername]

I would like to add that Married With Children looks like Sesame Street compared to the filth on TV today.

BTW do you remember this? ;)

Is this where you get your moniker(Grand Master B[ud])?

[mirkwood]

I voted greatly, but only because it feels like time is now compressing. I have not had a personal change in what I expect in quite some time. Moments of inspiration on actions to take, but it hasn't changed my perspective.

[GrandMasterB]

I would like to add that Married With Children looks like Sesame Street compared to the filth on TV today.

BTW do you remember this? ;)

Is this where you get your moniker(Grand Master B[ud])?

Indeed lol.

[shadow]

Obviously the tribulations are nearer. Next year they'll even be a year closer than they already are today and the following year even closer.
That said- if you've been gullible enough to think the Holy Ghost has testified to you that Menet, Rowe, Sosa, Kahn and others are true messengers then know that you're listening to the wrong spirit and you're deceived.

What does Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek have to do with this?

Everything.

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