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Do you really believe that the Russians and the Chinese Will wait for Obama to leave office before they try something? I don't, not for a second. Or do you actually believe that writing about it on a forum will prevent that from happening?
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Personal attacks? Just 15 years worth of observations. And counsel to do what is best not what give you a thrill. From your post I guess you were the one that made those predictions. I guess I hit a nerve there.kirtland r.m. wrote:Love those personal attacks. Wow, I guess that those who disagree with you are pretty darned stupid, aren't they. Not spending their time doing "something that builds faith. Service, family activities, and missionary work", because they have a differing opinion than you . And "What will all these posters that are posting these predictions say when Obama isn't the last sitting president? CRICKETS"....Aren't you posting that about one year too early?.... CRICKETS!!! So call me "spurious", but I just think that your quote "There will be plagues and diseases and war beyond our imaginations" may happen a little earlier than you do. It's really because I am too busy "fantasizing". Thank you for your supreme and superior thinking on this subject. In the mean time, watch for the beginning of that "second American Civil War" prophesied by many latter day Prophets and Apostles.If it begins within the next year, Barry O. will declare martial law, and will be "The Last Sitting U.S. President". Yes, and some of us study our "Church History", long and hard! Ya want some quotes, i will post 'em.kfb wrote:It appears that a few popular authors have said that Obama will be the last sitting president. And that several people on this board are parroting this dream, vision, revelations? Do most on this board really believe that Obama is our last sitting president?
My experience tells me that those on this board that are espousing this new revelation, vision or doctrine have been making the same predictions about "Greek presidents", "the call out", "last sitting president", etc etc etc for over 16 years, and yet no prediction has come to fruition.
I know that this will not be popular post as many (most) here are so busy There will be plagues and diseases and war beyond our imaginations. out the "call out" or Obama the antichrist" dreams, NDE, revelations that this website is how they get their "Last Days thrill".
What will all these posters that are posting these prediction say when Obama isn't the last sitting president? CRICKETS.
Make not mistake, the Saviour will return. There will be plagues and diseases and war beyond our imaginations. But why do so many here feel the need to constantly discuss the Last days based on spurious dreams, visions, NDE's when we have volumes of inspired records from prophet, apostles and the standard works?
I believe that the reason whey so many are attracted to this site is similar to romance novel readers. It is much more fun to read fantasy than to read the scriptures ( I know you all read your scriptures for an hour per day before ever logging on to ldsff). It's like taking a Magic weight loss pill from Walmart instead of eating right and exercising daily. It's fun but it is also a distraction from the important things. Instead of running off to the next NDE Dreamer conference do something that builds faith. Service, family activities, and missionary work.
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The Russians and Chinese will wait for the right opportunity. Major natural disasters that overstress government are one opportunity, but are impossible to predict. An economic collapse would lead to widespread social unrest, especially with rioting - both of which can be engineered. And anybody with their eyes and hearts open saw that when rioting started in Ferguson, MO last year, some unknown group operating in the shadows was trying to provoke protests nationwide. With the right combination of events, all of which can be engineered, social unrest can turn into uncontrollable rioting that would overwhelm law enforcement in this country.will wrote:Do you really believe that the Russians and the Chinese Will wait for Obama to leave office before they try something? I don't, not for a second. Or do you actually believe that writing about it on a forum will prevent that from happening?
When the right situation has presented itself, or been engineered, the Russians and Chinese will act quickly.
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indeed, but Cuba is not... so it could still apply...gkearney wrote:How are persons of hispanic origin not of a European background, last time I checked Spain was in Europe.Talon65 wrote:just throwing this out there - a thought on the "Greek" President item - I've seen several people suggest that "Greek" just means "non-European" and thus pointing to Obama... well, we also have 2 Presidential hopefuls that might be considered "non-European" as well (Rubio/Cruz) - could it be referencing one of them perhaps?
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I so believe you are right! We can get ready though, and warn our neighbors who will Listen.Ruble now down about sixty percent against western currencies, not good for future stability of Russia.http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomani ... eb1c7e47ea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Also U.S. and E.U. have imposed sanctions on Russia http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28400218" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. In my opinion, these events are pushing us closer to fulfillment of prophesies quoted at beginning of this thread. Russia is said to be more anti U.S. than ever before.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eu ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; David Horne and other family members of George Albert Smith heard Him tell of future Russian attack on U.S.. Prophesies at beginning of this thread indicate that it will follow a weakening of America due to civil war.will wrote:Do you really believe that the Russians and the Chinese Will wait for Obama to leave office before they try something? I don't, not for a second. Or do you actually believe that writing about it on a forum will prevent that from happening?
Noah preached repentance for over one hundred years, but when the rain started, any time to prepare suddenly ran out.
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You have every right to voice your opinion, but so do I, and it is coming soon. I KNOW IT. Take care my friend.kfb wrote:Personal attacks? Just 15 years worth of observations. And counsel to do what is best not what give you a thrill. From your post I guess you were the one that made those predictions. I guess I hit a nerve there.kirtland r.m. wrote:Love those personal attacks. Wow, I guess that those who disagree with you are pretty darned stupid, aren't they. Not spending their time doing "something that builds faith. Service, family activities, and missionary work", because they have a differing opinion than you . And "What will all these posters that are posting these predictions say when Obama isn't the last sitting president? CRICKETS"....Aren't you posting that about one year too early?.... CRICKETS!!! So call me "spurious", but I just think that your quote "There will be plagues and diseases and war beyond our imaginations" may happen a little earlier than you do. It's really because I am too busy "fantasizing". Thank you for your supreme and superior thinking on this subject. In the mean time, watch for the beginning of that "second American Civil War" prophesied by many latter day Prophets and Apostles.If it begins within the next year, Barry O. will declare martial law, and will be "The Last Sitting U.S. President". Yes, and some of us study our "Church History", long and hard! Ya want some quotes, i will post 'em.kfb wrote:It appears that a few popular authors have said that Obama will be the last sitting president. And that several people on this board are parroting this dream, vision, revelations? Do most on this board really believe that Obama is our last sitting president?
My experience tells me that those on this board that are espousing this new revelation, vision or doctrine have been making the same predictions about "Greek presidents", "the call out", "last sitting president", etc etc etc for over 16 years, and yet no prediction has come to fruition.
I know that this will not be popular post as many (most) here are so busy There will be plagues and diseases and war beyond our imaginations. out the "call out" or Obama the antichrist" dreams, NDE, revelations that this website is how they get their "Last Days thrill".
What will all these posters that are posting these prediction say when Obama isn't the last sitting president? CRICKETS.
Make not mistake, the Saviour will return. There will be plagues and diseases and war beyond our imaginations. But why do so many here feel the need to constantly discuss the Last days based on spurious dreams, visions, NDE's when we have volumes of inspired records from prophet, apostles and the standard works?
I believe that the reason whey so many are attracted to this site is similar to romance novel readers. It is much more fun to read fantasy than to read the scriptures ( I know you all read your scriptures for an hour per day before ever logging on to ldsff). It's like taking a Magic weight loss pill from Walmart instead of eating right and exercising daily. It's fun but it is also a distraction from the important things. Instead of running off to the next NDE Dreamer conference do something that builds faith. Service, family activities, and missionary work.
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I've been thinking Bernie Sanders, but yeahJason wrote:Just setting the stage for Jeb Bush...
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this psychic says jeb and hillary....
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You don't need dreamers and prophets to believe that O could be the last sitting president. You only need to understand his friends. He is a unique breed of anti-American radical who's hell bent on transforming the United States. That means one thing: destroying its free market, constitutional republic, and turning it into a European socialist, or a global collectivist state. (If you don't see this, you are politically naive or ignorant.)
Knowing this, I don't believe that this radical is going to give up power. These globalists cannot risk the U.S. changing course or restoring constitutional government with the election of a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. The globalists will cause a crisis sufficiently large to delay the election or the swearing in of whomever is elected. If another Clinton is elected, the crisis might be delayed. But something tells me that O is their man, and his intent is to put us under U.N. authority, using climate change and environmentalism to get it done.
Those who have prophesied or seen this in vision are only tangential evidence to support what I think O is going to do. Of course, the scumbag POS POTUS will somehow have plausible deniability when the crisis occurs, which means that it'll likely be war, or national violence, or a sudden refugee crisis.... But make no mistake, when it happens, know that it was planned.
Knowing this, I don't believe that this radical is going to give up power. These globalists cannot risk the U.S. changing course or restoring constitutional government with the election of a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. The globalists will cause a crisis sufficiently large to delay the election or the swearing in of whomever is elected. If another Clinton is elected, the crisis might be delayed. But something tells me that O is their man, and his intent is to put us under U.N. authority, using climate change and environmentalism to get it done.
Those who have prophesied or seen this in vision are only tangential evidence to support what I think O is going to do. Of course, the scumbag POS POTUS will somehow have plausible deniability when the crisis occurs, which means that it'll likely be war, or national violence, or a sudden refugee crisis.... But make no mistake, when it happens, know that it was planned.
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He's a CIA pawn...nothing special. He'll do what they tell him to do or they'll take him out. They've been running the show for couple decades now.SamFisher wrote:You don't need dreamers and prophets to believe that O could be the last sitting president. You only need to understand his friends. He is a unique breed of anti-American radical who's hell bent on transforming the United States. That means one thing: destroying its free market, constitutional republic, and turning it into a European socialist, or a global collectivist state. (If you don't see this, you are politically naive or ignorant.)
Knowing this, I don't believe that this radical is going to give up power. These globalists cannot risk the U.S. changing course or restoring constitutional government with the election of a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. The globalists will cause a crisis sufficiently large to delay the election or the swearing in of whomever is elected. If another Clinton is elected, the crisis might be delayed. But something tells me that O is their man, and his intent is to put us under U.N. authority, using climate change and environmentalism to get it done.
Those who have prophesied or seen this in vision are only tangential evidence to support what I think O is going to do. Of course, the scumbag POS POTUS will somehow have plausible deniability when the crisis occurs, which means that it'll likely be war, or national violence, or a sudden refugee crisis.... But make no mistake, when it happens, know that it was planned.
Rand Paul and Cruz are nothing special either and will do what they are told.
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The reason things like this matter, is that ideas like this are perpetuated by people like Hector Sosa. He specifically said on the Mills Crenshaw show that Obama would be the last sitting president. There are many people on LDSFF and similar sites that wholeheartedly believe in his book A Change is Coming and "feel" that it is correct.FamilyFunnyFarm wrote:I don't think it matters if Obama is the last sitting president. We clearly are in for some rough times in the near future. The push for preparedness is the greatest I have ever seen it in my life. Within our stake we now have preparedness committees and preparedness training. All a person need do is to turn on the news to realize we are headed for disaster in this country.
If Obama is not the last sitting president as Sosa claims are those on here who "feel" he is right, willing to throw out his other predictions? And are they willing to throw out Julie Rowes as well since she claims she "knows" what he says is true? I agree with he OP that many on here seem to fantasize about the callout and any information or source that encourages that fantasy.
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I think Jeb Bush is going to be elected President. He is the only logical choice. As the other men drop out of the race, their supporters will turn to Bush, just as Graham's did, and prop him up. Trump will not get the nomination.
President Obama has his sights set on the UN Secretary General position for 2017. He will not be the last American President.
President Obama has his sights set on the UN Secretary General position for 2017. He will not be the last American President.
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House of Bush controls the CIA...which has been their baby since it was created. Clinton's worked for Bush family. Obama does as well although his family (Obama, his mother and mother's father) started much lower on the totem pole.Matchmaker wrote:I think Jeb Bush is going to be elected President. He is the only logical choice. As the other men drop out of the race, their supporters will turn to Bush, just as Graham's did, and prop him up. Trump will not get the nomination.
President Obama has his sights set on the UN Secretary General position for 2017. He will not be the last American President.
Clinton's are white trash and the CIA always had their hands full dealing with all of their idiosyncrasies and associated collateral damage. I suspect they are pretty much done.
I agree with you but on the basis that they want another Bush in the white house.
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LOL...they will never admit that JR and HS are false prophets. It's a religious tenet for them.I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS wrote:The reason things like this matter, is that ideas like this are perpetuated by people like Hector Sosa. He specifically said on the Mills Crenshaw show that Obama would be the last sitting president. There are many people on LDSFF and similar sites that wholeheartedly believe in his book A Change is Coming and "feel" that it is correct.FamilyFunnyFarm wrote:I don't think it matters if Obama is the last sitting president. We clearly are in for some rough times in the near future. The push for preparedness is the greatest I have ever seen it in my life. Within our stake we now have preparedness committees and preparedness training. All a person need do is to turn on the news to realize we are headed for disaster in this country.
If Obama is not the last sitting president as Sosa claims are those on here who "feel" he is right, willing to throw out his other predictions? And are they willing to throw out Julie Rowes as well since she claims she "knows" what he says is true? I agree with he OP that many on here seem to fantasize about the callout and any information or source that encourages that fantasy.
When their predictions don't come true, their followers simply change the meaning / verbiage of the "prophecy" or they simply ignore the fact that the prophecy was false (i.e. JR's bioterrorism attack for Feb '14). For example when JR's prophecy about an EQ in UT didn't happen last Oct, they changed it from an EQ to a "shaking". They say this did occur b/c that's when The Church came out with the gay children baptism ruling and it "shook" The Church. I LOVE it. When HS said THE EQ for UT was going to be in Oct '14 and nothing happend, they said he just got the date wrong @-) When JR said the market would crash last Sept and it didn't they said oh but it did go down some in Aug so she was only off by a month...When the new president takes the White House they will say we repented and God gave us a repreive or it wasn't really about BHO but it was REALLY about Hillary the whole time or something like that. I can't wait to here their excuse. :YMPARTY:
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Jeb will NEVER even get the nomination let a lone the general election. Under what possible senario could "they" give Jeb, who currently has 3% of the R votes supporting him, the White House?Jason wrote:House of Bush controls the CIA...which has been their baby since it was created. Clinton's worked for Bush family. Obama does as well although his family (Obama, his mother and mother's father) started much lower on the totem pole.Matchmaker wrote:I think Jeb Bush is going to be elected President. He is the only logical choice. As the other men drop out of the race, their supporters will turn to Bush, just as Graham's did, and prop him up. Trump will not get the nomination.
President Obama has his sights set on the UN Secretary General position for 2017. He will not be the last American President.
Clinton's are white trash and the CIA always had their hands full dealing with all of their idiosyncrasies and associated collateral damage. I suspect they are pretty much done.
I agree with you but on the basis that they want another Bush in the white house.
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Who's counting the votes?durangout wrote:Jeb will NEVER even get the nomination let a lone the general election. Under what possible senario could "they" give Jeb, who currently has 3% of the R votes supporting him, the White House?Jason wrote:House of Bush controls the CIA...which has been their baby since it was created. Clinton's worked for Bush family. Obama does as well although his family (Obama, his mother and mother's father) started much lower on the totem pole.Matchmaker wrote:I think Jeb Bush is going to be elected President. He is the only logical choice. As the other men drop out of the race, their supporters will turn to Bush, just as Graham's did, and prop him up. Trump will not get the nomination.
President Obama has his sights set on the UN Secretary General position for 2017. He will not be the last American President.
Clinton's are white trash and the CIA always had their hands full dealing with all of their idiosyncrasies and associated collateral damage. I suspect they are pretty much done.
I agree with you but on the basis that they want another Bush in the white house.
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I have always feared more if the predictions did come true. People like to know the future and sometimes they don't care where it comes from. If Julie or Hector hit one out of the park you could then really see a cult following.durangout wrote:LOL...they will never admit that JR and HS are false prophets. It's a regligious tenet for them.I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS wrote:The reason things like this matter, is that ideas like this are perpetuated by people like Hector Sosa. He specifically said on the Mills Crenshaw show that Obama would be the last sitting president. There are many people on LDSFF and similar sites that wholeheartedly believe in his book A Change is Coming and "feel" that it is correct.FamilyFunnyFarm wrote:I don't think it matters if Obama is the last sitting president. We clearly are in for some rough times in the near future. The push for preparedness is the greatest I have ever seen it in my life. Within our stake we now have preparedness committees and preparedness training. All a person need do is to turn on the news to realize we are headed for disaster in this country.
If Obama is not the last sitting president as Sosa claims are those on here who "feel" he is right, willing to throw out his other predictions? And are they willing to throw out Julie Rowes as well since she claims she "knows" what he says is true? I agree with he OP that many on here seem to fantasize about the callout and any information or source that encourages that fantasy.
When their predictions don't come true, their followers simply change the meaning / verbiage of the "prophecy" or they simply ignore the fact that the prophecy was false (i.e. JR's bioterrorism attak for Feb '14). For example when JR's prophecy about an EQ in UT didn't happen last Oct, they changed it from an EQ to a "shaking". They say this did occur b/c that's when The Church came out with the gay children baptism ruling and it "shook" The Church. I LOVE it. Wen HS said THE EQ for UT was going to be in Oct '14 and nothing happend, they said he just got the date wrong @-) When JR said the market would crash last sept and it didn't they said oh but it did go down some in Aug so she was only off by a month...When the new president takes the White House they will say we repented and God gave us a repreive or it wasn't really about BHO but it was REALLY about Hilalry the whole time or something like that. I can't wait to here their excuse. :YMPARTY:
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True dat brother.Jason wrote:Who's counting the votes?durangout wrote:Jeb will NEVER even get the nomination let a lone the general election. Under what possible senario could "they" give Jeb, who currently has 3% of the R votes supporting him, the White House?Jason wrote:House of Bush controls the CIA...which has been their baby since it was created. Clinton's worked for Bush family. Obama does as well although his family (Obama, his mother and mother's father) started much lower on the totem pole.Matchmaker wrote:I think Jeb Bush is going to be elected President. He is the only logical choice. As the other men drop out of the race, their supporters will turn to Bush, just as Graham's did, and prop him up. Trump will not get the nomination.
President Obama has his sights set on the UN Secretary General position for 2017. He will not be the last American President.
Clinton's are white trash and the CIA always had their hands full dealing with all of their idiosyncrasies and associated collateral damage. I suspect they are pretty much done.
I agree with you but on the basis that they want another Bush in the white house.
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Bush will get the support through attrition. As other candidates drop out, he will pick up many of their supporters, and he will rise in the polls. When it comes down to delegates having to choose between mercurial Trump and level-headed Bush, they will go with Bush, regardless of what the constituents in their districts want.
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he's certainly laying low at the moment whilst trump runs his mouth off garnering attention...and hilary's fighting bad pressMatchmaker wrote:Bush will get the support through attrition. As other candidates drop out, he will pick up many of their supporters, and he will rise in the polls. When it comes down to delegates having to choose between mercurial Trump and level-headed Bush, they will go with Bush, regardless of what the constituents in their districts want.
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Don't forget the Book of Mormon. It was written for our day, to share things that will be necessary for us to know. Several times in the Book of Mormon somebody tries to set himself up as a king over the people and attempts to overthrow the democratically elected government. Why is this in the Book of Mormon? Because we can look forward to the same thing happening to us.I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS wrote:The reason things like this matter, is that ideas like this are perpetuated by people like Hector Sosa. He specifically said on the Mills Crenshaw show that Obama would be the last sitting president. There are many people on LDSFF and similar sites that wholeheartedly believe in his book A Change is Coming and "feel" that it is correct.
We learn about the Gaddianton Robbes because the same organization will exist within our government, and it does.
What's the point of the Stripling Warriors? I believe that we need to raise our children with such a strong faith that, if they are the generation called upon, they will be able to stand up to government and foreign forces to defeat them and reestablish a government based on the Constitution.
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In said book, they made a boat with their bare hands and sailed across an ocean...based upon your logic, we will have to do the same thing too, right?brianj wrote:Don't forget the Book of Mormon. It was written for our day, to share things that will be necessary for us to know. Several times in the Book of Mormon somebody tries to set himself up as a king over the people and attempts to overthrow the democratically elected government. Why is this in the Book of Mormon? Because we can look forward to the same thing happening to us.I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS wrote:The reason things like this matter, is that ideas like this are perpetuated by people like Hector Sosa. He specifically said on the Mills Crenshaw show that Obama would be the last sitting president. There are many people on LDSFF and similar sites that wholeheartedly believe in his book A Change is Coming and "feel" that it is correct.
We learn about the Gaddianton Robbes because the same organization will exist within our government, and it does.
What's the point of the Stripling Warriors? I believe that we need to raise our children with such a strong faith that, if they are the generation called upon, they will be able to stand up to government and foreign forces to defeat them and reestablish a government based on the Constitution.
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We'll only have to wait until July--then we will see the validity of the above, vaguely referenced, conspiracy theories. I could be wrong. Who knows?Mark wrote:True dat brother.Jason wrote:Who's counting the votes?durangout wrote:Jeb will NEVER even get the nomination let a lone the general election. Under what possible senario could "they" give Jeb, who currently has 3% of the R votes supporting him, the White House?Jason wrote: House of Bush controls the CIA...which has been their baby since it was created. Clinton's worked for Bush family. Obama does as well although his family (Obama, his mother and mother's father) started much lower on the totem pole.
Clinton's are white trash and the CIA always had their hands full dealing with all of their idiosyncrasies and associated collateral damage. I suspect they are pretty much done.
I agree with you but on the basis that they want another Bush in the white house.
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Things were put in the BofM because we will see things LIKE them in our day. It does not have to be the EXACT same scenario though. The story of Lehi fleeing Jerusalem is an example of a righteous man who had dreams and warned his neighbors of an impending destruction, and who was then called out to flee to the wilderness in search of a promised land and safe place for his family. And yes, I believe we too will be called out to flee to the wilderness for safety before an impending destruction.durangout wrote:In said book, they made a boat with their bare hands and sailed across an ocean...based upon your logic, we will have to do the same thing too, right?brianj wrote:Don't forget the Book of Mormon. It was written for our day, to share things that will be necessary for us to know. Several times in the Book of Mormon somebody tries to set himself up as a king over the people and attempts to overthrow the democratically elected government. Why is this in the Book of Mormon? Because we can look forward to the same thing happening to us.I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS wrote:The reason things like this matter, is that ideas like this are perpetuated by people like Hector Sosa. He specifically said on the Mills Crenshaw show that Obama would be the last sitting president. There are many people on LDSFF and similar sites that wholeheartedly believe in his book A Change is Coming and "feel" that it is correct.
We learn about the Gaddianton Robbes because the same organization will exist within our government, and it does.
What's the point of the Stripling Warriors? I believe that we need to raise our children with such a strong faith that, if they are the generation called upon, they will be able to stand up to government and foreign forces to defeat them and reestablish a government based on the Constitution.