Planet X or Nibiru and Charles Evans Dream

[Astroman]

Not the book of Gleannings but The book of Manuscripts.

[lemuel]

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[Sunain]

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10,000 to 20,000 year orbits. Well now, this is going to add fuel to the fire...

Scientists reported Wednesday they finally have "good evidence" for Planet X, a true ninth planet on the fringes of our solar system.

The gas giant is thought to be almost as big as Neptune and orbiting billions of kilometres beyond Neptune's path — distant enough to take 10,000 to 20,000 years to circle the sun.

This Planet 9, as the two California Institute of Technology researchers call it, hasn't been spotted yet. They base their findings on mathematical and computer modelling, and anticipate its discovery via telescope within five years or less.



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[Matchmaker]

Has Curtis99 seen this yet? I think he has been vindicated in some way.

[brianj]

I disagree with the idea of vindication. Look at the predicted orbit of this plant that is currently nothing more than a prediction. At aphelion the planet is 600 to 1200 AU from the sun, and at perihelion it doesn't come closer than 75 AU. The Kuiper Belt only extends to 50 AU, 50 times further from the Sun than the Earth.

This planet, if it exists, is so far away that it will never have any impact on our planet.

[Matchmaker]

I disagree with the idea of vindication. Look at the predicted orbit of this plant that is currently nothing more than a prediction. At aphelion the planet is 600 to 1200 AU from the sun, and at perihelion it doesn't come closer than 75 AU. The Kuiper Belt only extends to 50 AU, 50 times further from the Sun than the Earth.

This planet, if it exists, is so far away that it will never have any impact on our planet.

I meant that if they "discover" this new planet now there may be another planet out there that hasn't been "discovered" yet and will be at a later date.

[Love]

Truth is that every three to four hundred years God has need to pass judgement on the wicked and he is all knowing and can use any method to do this by. In times passed he has used simple methods that confound the wise. I'm not sure the method of delivery but we do know that Wormwood is a real prophacy.

[Silver Pie]

bump - just for the halibut

[justme]

bump - just for the halibut

Thanks, I was unaware of this old thread but it is an interesting topic that I have seen reports on within the past year. I think the scientific jury is still out but it is being considered. I haven't read through the old thread to see why it was so interesting in this forum. Though this forum can be very creative so I have no idea what to expect.

[Matchmaker]

In August, 1894, an article appeared in The Contributor, (Vol. 15, No. 20, pp.638-647: the forerunner of The Improvement Era), entitled “A Dream.” In the article, an account was given of a vision or dream which Charles D. Evans, a Patriarch living in Springville, Utah, had been given of the last days. Those words in red or in ( ) are my interpretations and references from the Book of Revelations.
A Dream

While I lay pondering, in deep solitude, on the events of the present, my mind was drawn into a reverie such as I had never felt before. A strong solicitude for my imperiled country utterly excluded every other thought and raised my feelings to a point of intensity I did not think it possible to endure. While in this solemn, profound and painful reverie of mind, to my infinite surprise, a light appeared in my room, which seemed to be soft and silvery and that diffused from a northern star. At the moment of its appearance the acute feeling I had experienced instantly yielded to one of calm tranquility.

Although it may have been at the hour of midnight and the side of the globe whereon I was situated was excluded from the sunlight, yet all was light and bright and warm as an Italian landscape at noon; but the heat was softer or more subdued. As I gazed upward, I saw descending through my bedroom roof, with a gently gliding movement, a personage clothed in white apparel, whose countenance was smoothly serene, his features regular, and the flashes of his eye seemed to shoot forth scintillations, to use an earthly comparison, strongly resembling those reflected from a diamond under an intensely-illumined electric light, which dazzled but did not bewilder. Those large, deep, inscrutable eyes were presently fixed upon mine, when instantly placing his hands upon my forehead his touch produced an indescribable serenity and calmness, calmness not born of earth, but at once peaceful, delightful and heavenly. My whole being was imbued with a joy unspeakable. All feelings of sorrow instantly vanished. Those lines and shadows which care and sorrow impress upon us were dispelled as a deep fog before a blazing sun. In the eyes of my heavenly visitor, for such he appeared to me, there was a sort of lofty pity and tenderness infinitely stronger than any such feeling I ever saw manifested in ordinary mortals. His very calm appeared like vast ocean stillness, at once overpowering to every agitated emotion.

By some intuition, or instinct, I felt he had something to communicate to soothe my sorrows and allay my apprehensions. Whereon, addressing me, he said:

“Son I perceive thou hast grave anxieties over the perilous state of thy country, that thy soul has felt deep sorrow for its future. I have therefore come to thy relief and to tell thee of the causes that have led to this peril. Hear me attentively. Seventy-one years ago, (Vision of Joseph Smith, Spring of 1820)
after an awful apostasy of centuries, in which all nations were shrouded in spiritual darkness, when the angels had withdrawn themselves, the voice of prophets hushed and the light of Urim and Thummim shone not, and the vision of the seers was closed, while heaven itself shed not a ray of gladness to lighten a dark world, when Babel ruled and Satan laughed, and church and priesthood had taken their upward flight, and the voice of nations, possessing the books of the Jewish prophets (the Bible) had ruled against vision and against Urim, against the further visits of angels, and against the doctrine of a church of apostles and prophets, thou knowest that then appeared a mighty angel with the solemn announcement of the hour of judgment, the burden of whose instructions pointed to dire calamities upon the present generation. This, therefore, is the cause of what thou seest and the end of the wicked hasteneth.”

My vision now became extended in a marvelous manner, and the import of the past labors of the Elders was made plain to me. I saw multitudes fleeing to the place of safety in our mountain heights. The church was established in the wilderness. Simultaneously the nation had reach an unparalleled prosperity, wealth abounded, new territory was acquired (Alaska and Hawaii), commerce extended, finance strengthened, confidence was maintained, and peoples abroad pointed to her as the model nation, the ideal of the past realized and perfected, the embodiment of the liberty sung by poets, and sought for by sages.

“But,” continued the messenger, “thou beholdest a change. Confidence is lost. Wealth is arrayed against labor, labor against wealth, (2009-2015…there is a great imbalance in the USA and world monetary economies. Inflation increases to oppress the laborer, unemployment reaches an all-time high) yet the land abounds with plenty for food and raiment, and silver and gold are in abundance. Thou seest also that letters written by a Jew have wrought great confusion in the finances of the nation which, together with the policy of many wealthy ones, has produced distress and do presage further sorrow.”

Factions now sprang up as if by magic; (USA, economic collapse of the US dollar 2015?) capital had entrenched itself against labor throughout the land; labor was organized against capital. The voice of the wise sought to tranquilize these two powerful factors in vain. Excited multitudes ran wildly about; strikes increased; lawlessness sought the face of regular government. At this juncture I saw a banner floating in air whereon was written the words, “Bankruptcy, Famine, Floods, Fire, Cyclones, Blood, and Plague.” Mad with rage men and women rushed upon each other. Blood flowed down the streets like water. The demon of bloody hate had enthroned itself on the citadel of reason; the thirst for blood was more intense than that of the parched tongue for water. Thousands of bodies lay entombed in the streets. Men and women fell dead from the terror inspired by fear. Rest was but the precursor of the bloody work of the morrow. All around lay the mournfulness of a past in ruins. Monuments erected to perpetuate the names of the noble and brave were ruthlessly destroyed by combustibles. A voice now sounded aloud these words: “Yet once again (“again” always refers to a repeat event! One that has happened before in earth’s temporal journey) I shake not the earth only, but also heaven (This is the fulfillment of Revelations 6:12-17) what is going to cause this “global earthquake?” The approach of a Planet X type object (some past historical names were: Nibiru, The Destroyer, Frightener, which will be seen by most people maybe in 2015-?, perhaps 45 degrees up and 45 degrees right of our Sun (we may see two suns in the sky one day). And this word yet once again signifies the removing of things that are shakes as of things that are made; that those things that cannot be shaken may remain.”
(Heb 12:26-27). The only thing that cannot be shaken and remain is our integrity of character with God and man. If we have sought for and embraced the foundational attributes of godliness in your life, we will not be moved but will stand firm in our foundation and walk in life. All governments and economies will fail us but our integrity won’t (in fact) it will bring us through these times of cataclysmic change with stability and peace of conscience …but only if we have truly developed a spiritual relationship within, with God. Our testimony of this “truth” is the only temple that cannot be moved (1 Corinthians 3: 16-17) if your foundation is in holiness of character and virtue).

Earthquakes rent the earth in vast chasms,
(Rev.6:12-17; 6th Seal time period. This Earthquake is called the “great earthquake”…it is global in its nature: “every mountain and island were moved out of their places…and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth” …this earthquake happens very close to the end of the 6th seal, before the opening of the 7th seal. I personally would put this shaker sometime between 2015 and 2016 winter time. Many people will confuse this earthquake for the Lords Second Coming. This event (6th Seal Earthquake) must take place and so must the “Council of adam-ondi-ahman” before the opening of the 7th Seal) (D&C 77: 9-11) the approach of a Planet X type object will begin to play havoc on the earth and its people for the next several months or years. “letters written by a Jew have wrought great confusion in the finances of the nation which, together with the policy of many wealthy ones, has produced distress and do presage further sorrow.”

Earthquakes rent the earth in vast chasms, which engulfed multitudes; terrible groaning’s and wailings filled the air; the shrieks of the suffering were indescribably awful. Water wildly rushed in from the tumultuous ocean whose very roaring under the mad rage of the fierce cyclone, was unendurable to the ear. Cities were swept away in an instant, missiles were hurled through the atmosphere at a terrible velocity and people were carried upward only to descend on an unrecognized mass. Islands appeared where ocean waves once tossed the gigantic steamer. In other parts voluminous flames, emanating from vast fires, rolled with fearful velocity destroying life and property in their destructive course. The seal of the dread menace of despair was stamped on every human visage; men fell exhausted, appalled and trembling. Every element of nature was a demon of wrathful fury. Dense clouds, blacker than midnight darkness, whose thunders reverberated with intonations which shook the earth, obscured the sunlight. Darkness reigned, (“the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became as blood” Rev. 6: 12. The effects of a Planet X type objece upon the earth) unrivalled and supreme.

Again the light shone, revealing an atmosphere tinged with a leaden hue which was the precursor of an unparalleled plague whose first symptoms were recognized by a purple spot which appeared on the cheek, or on the back of the hand, and which, invariably enlarged until it spread over the entire surface of the body, producing certain death. Mothers, on sight of it, cast away their children as if they were poisonous reptiles. This plague, in grown persons, rotted the eyes in their sockets and consumed the tongue as would a powerful acid or an intense heat. Wicked men, suffering under its writhing agonies, cursed God and died, as they stood on their feet, and the birds of prey feasted on their carcasses. (This is evidence that this plague is not nuclear because the birds of prey feast on dead bodies, if nuclear all forms of life would be dead).

I saw in my dream the messenger again appear with a vial in his right hand (A “vial” is evidence that the beginning or opening of the 7th Seal is taking place. There are 7 terrible plagues that are unleashed on the earth during this time period “Before” the Lord comes in Glory! Perhaps He will come on a Sunday April 6th, his birthday and resurrection anniversary. Knowing the “signs before” His coming is the key to our preparations and understanding… Rev 8:1 measures a period of time (a literal half hour of silence) why? Before this ½ hour of silence, there is almost unbearable noise and commotion from a Planet X type object that effects everyone, and our attention will be attuned to this silence and wonder. The 7th seal begins with a “sounding of a trump” and then the “pouring of a vial,” and there are 7 of these unleashed on earth, which ends with the last plague coming before the Lord Returns in glory! These are all the effects of a Planet X type object encounters with earth), who addressing me, said: “Thou knowest somewhat of the chemistry taught in the schools of human learning; behold now chemistry sufficiently powerful to change the waters of the sea.”

He then poured out his vial upon the sea, (Rev. 8:8-9 & Rev. 16:3; this angel is the same angel who sounds (or warns) and then pours the vial into the sea. This is in the beginning of the 7th Seal time period, before the Lord Comes D&C 77:12) and it became putrid as the blood of a dead man, and every living soul therein died. Other plagues followed that I forbear to record. (For a detailed account of these plagues in this opening period of the 7th seal, read Revelations 8-22 ...note that there are 7 Angels who “sound” (Rev. 8:6) and then “pour” the seven last plagues upon the earth, before the Lord comes in glory which are as follows and take place in the opening part of the 7th Seal) These events will last 7 years and are all brought on by the approach and passing of a Planet X or Nibiru type object, after which the Second Coming of Christ will usher in:

(Angel 1: “And the first angel sounded and there followed hail and fire mingled” (meteorite showers) a “third part of trees…and all green grass was burnt up.” (Rev. 8:7). “the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and their fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image” (Rev. 16:3).

Angel 2: “And the second angel sounded …a great mountain burning with fire (volcanoes’) was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood …the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part o f the ships were destroyed” (Rev. 8:8). “And the second angle poured his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man; and every living soul died in the sea” (Rev 16:3).

(Angel 3: “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (meteorite) from heaven…and it fell upon the third part of the rivers and fountains of waters…and a third of the waters became Wormwood…and many men died of the waters…(Rev. 8:10-11). And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood” Rev. 16:4-7).

(Angel 4: “And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon…stars…so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise” (Rev. 8:12). And the fourth angel poured out of his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire…” (Rev. 16: 8-9).

(Angel 5: “And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven (meteorite) unto the earth…and the sun and the air were darkened …and their power was to hurt men five months. …whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon (In Greek this name means “Destruction from the stars”) “And it was commanded…that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads… One woe is past; and behold, there come two woes more… (Rev. 9:1-12). “And the fifth angel poured out of his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds” (Rev.16:11).

(Angel 6: “And the sixth angel sounded…” (Rev 9:13-21). “And…four angels were loosed, which were bound in the great river Euphrates …for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men… (with)…fire and smoke and brimstone.” “And the sixth angel poured out of his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up…(Rev.16:12-16). “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy (three and one half years) clothed in sackcloth…The second woe is past…” (Rev.11:1-14). “Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth (“keepeth:” meaning to hold sacred your virtue and holiness of character so that our garments remain white) his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon” (Rev.16:15-16).

A foreign power had invaded the nation which, from every human indication, it appeared would seize the government and supplant it with monarchy. I stood trembling at the aspect, when, lo, a power arose in the west which declared itself in favor of the Constitution in its original form; to this suddenly rising power every lover of constitutional rights and liberties throughout the nation gave a hearty support. The struggle was fiercely contested, but the Stars and Stripes floated in the breeze, and bidding defiance to all opposition, waved proudly over the land. Among the many banners I saw, was one inscribed thus; “The government based on the Constitution, now and forever;” on another “Liberty of Conscience, social, religious and political.”

(Angel 7: “…the third woe cometh quickly. … a warning. “And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.”
(Revelation 11:14-19). The seventh angel poured “and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent (76 pounds): and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great (Revelation 16:18 – 21).

The light of the gospel (the good news that all men and women are co-equal and co-eternal and have the potential to become as God is: in character, attributes and perfections …the truth that makes man free) which had but dimly shone because of abomination now burst forth with a luster that filled the earth. (The Lord has now come and the millennium period of 1000 years has begun). Cities appeared in every direction, one of which, in the center of the continent, was an embodiment of architectural science after the pattern of eternal perfections, whose towers glittered with a radiance emanating from the sparkling of emeralds, rubies, diamonds and other precious stones set in a canopy of gold and so elaborately and skillfully arranged as to shed forth a brilliance which dazzled and enchanted the eye, excited admiration and developed a taste for the beautiful beyond anything man had ever conceived. Fountains of crystal water shot upward their clear jets which in the brilliant sunshine, formed ten thousand rainbow tints at once delightful to the eye. Gardens, the perfections of whose arrangements confound all our present attempts or genius, were bedecked with flowers of varied hue to develop and refine the taste, and strengthen a love for these nature’s chastest adornments. Schools and universities were erected to which all had access; in the latter, Urims were placed for the study of the past, present and future, and for obtaining knowledge of the heavenly bodies and of the construction of worlds and universes. The inherent properties of matter, its arrangements, laws and mutual relations were revealed and taught and made plain as the primer lessons of a child. The conflicting theories of geologists regarding the formation and age of the earth were settled forever. All learning was based on eternal certainty. Angles brought forth the treasures of heaven which had lain hid in the womb of the dumb distant past.

The appliances for making learning easy surpassed all conjecture. Chemistry was rendered extremely simple by the power which the Urims conferred on man of looking into and through the elements of every kind; a stone furnished no more obstruction to human vision than the air itself. Not only were the elements and all their changes and transformations plainly understood but the construction, operations, and laws of mind were thus rendered equally plain as those which governed the coarser elements. While looking through the Urim and Thummim I was amazed at a transformation which even now is to me marvelous beyond description, clearly showing the manner in which particles composing the inorganic kingdom of nature are conducted upward to become part of organic forms; another astounding revelation was a view clearly shown me of the entire circulation of the blood both in man and animals. After seeing these things and gazing once more upon the beautiful city, the following passage of Scripture sounded in my ears; “Out of Zion the perfection of beauty, God shineth.”

On this I awoke to find all a dream.


We have to ask ourselves... What would cause the whole earth to "quake"? ... And "Every mountain and island" moved out of its place... Joseph Smith said: "there will appear one grand sign of the Son of Man in heaven. But what will the world do? They will say it is a planet, a comet..."

I have taken particular interest in Joseph's description of the one grand sign; …the one that everyone in the world will see. He said that the world will say it is a planet or a comet. Why will the people of the world describe it as a planet or a comet unless that is what some of our experiences will be like? I think we can surmise from Joseph's comment that perhaps many of the great signs leading up to the Second Coming of the Lord will surely be planet type objects that comes very close to the earth. In fact, I wonder if some will actually come between us and the sun and thus cause "every mountain and island to move out of its place."

Thank you. I had never read this prophecy in its entirety.

[Durzan]

In August, 1894, an article appeared in The Contributor, (Vol. 15, No. 20, pp.638-647: the forerunner of The Improvement Era), entitled “A Dream.” In the article, an account was given of a vision or dream which Charles D. Evans, a Patriarch living in Springville, Utah, had been given of the last days. Those words in red or in ( ) are my interpretations and references from the Book of Revelations.
A Dream

While I lay pondering, in deep solitude, on the events of the present, my mind was drawn into a reverie such as I had never felt before. A strong solicitude for my imperiled country utterly excluded every other thought and raised my feelings to a point of intensity I did not think it possible to endure. While in this solemn, profound and painful reverie of mind, to my infinite surprise, a light appeared in my room, which seemed to be soft and silvery and that diffused from a northern star. At the moment of its appearance the acute feeling I had experienced instantly yielded to one of calm tranquility.

Although it may have been at the hour of midnight and the side of the globe whereon I was situated was excluded from the sunlight, yet all was light and bright and warm as an Italian landscape at noon; but the heat was softer or more subdued. As I gazed upward, I saw descending through my bedroom roof, with a gently gliding movement, a personage clothed in white apparel, whose countenance was smoothly serene, his features regular, and the flashes of his eye seemed to shoot forth scintillations, to use an earthly comparison, strongly resembling those reflected from a diamond under an intensely-illumined electric light, which dazzled but did not bewilder. Those large, deep, inscrutable eyes were presently fixed upon mine, when instantly placing his hands upon my forehead his touch produced an indescribable serenity and calmness, calmness not born of earth, but at once peaceful, delightful and heavenly. My whole being was imbued with a joy unspeakable. All feelings of sorrow instantly vanished. Those lines and shadows which care and sorrow impress upon us were dispelled as a deep fog before a blazing sun. In the eyes of my heavenly visitor, for such he appeared to me, there was a sort of lofty pity and tenderness infinitely stronger than any such feeling I ever saw manifested in ordinary mortals. His very calm appeared like vast ocean stillness, at once overpowering to every agitated emotion.

By some intuition, or instinct, I felt he had something to communicate to soothe my sorrows and allay my apprehensions. Whereon, addressing me, he said:

“Son I perceive thou hast grave anxieties over the perilous state of thy country, that thy soul has felt deep sorrow for its future. I have therefore come to thy relief and to tell thee of the causes that have led to this peril. Hear me attentively. Seventy-one years ago, (Vision of Joseph Smith, Spring of 1820)
after an awful apostasy of centuries, in which all nations were shrouded in spiritual darkness, when the angels had withdrawn themselves, the voice of prophets hushed and the light of Urim and Thummim shone not, and the vision of the seers was closed, while heaven itself shed not a ray of gladness to lighten a dark world, when Babel ruled and Satan laughed, and church and priesthood had taken their upward flight, and the voice of nations, possessing the books of the Jewish prophets (the Bible) had ruled against vision and against Urim, against the further visits of angels, and against the doctrine of a church of apostles and prophets, thou knowest that then appeared a mighty angel with the solemn announcement of the hour of judgment, the burden of whose instructions pointed to dire calamities upon the present generation. This, therefore, is the cause of what thou seest and the end of the wicked hasteneth.”

My vision now became extended in a marvelous manner, and the import of the past labors of the Elders was made plain to me. I saw multitudes fleeing to the place of safety in our mountain heights. The church was established in the wilderness. Simultaneously the nation had reach an unparalleled prosperity, wealth abounded, new territory was acquired (Alaska and Hawaii), commerce extended, finance strengthened, confidence was maintained, and peoples abroad pointed to her as the model nation, the ideal of the past realized and perfected, the embodiment of the liberty sung by poets, and sought for by sages.

“But,” continued the messenger, “thou beholdest a change. Confidence is lost. Wealth is arrayed against labor, labor against wealth, (2009-2015…there is a great imbalance in the USA and world monetary economies. Inflation increases to oppress the laborer, unemployment reaches an all-time high) yet the land abounds with plenty for food and raiment, and silver and gold are in abundance. Thou seest also that letters written by a Jew have wrought great confusion in the finances of the nation which, together with the policy of many wealthy ones, has produced distress and do presage further sorrow.”

Factions now sprang up as if by magic; (USA, economic collapse of the US dollar 2015?) capital had entrenched itself against labor throughout the land; labor was organized against capital. The voice of the wise sought to tranquilize these two powerful factors in vain. Excited multitudes ran wildly about; strikes increased; lawlessness sought the face of regular government. At this juncture I saw a banner floating in air whereon was written the words, “Bankruptcy, Famine, Floods, Fire, Cyclones, Blood, and Plague.” Mad with rage men and women rushed upon each other. Blood flowed down the streets like water. The demon of bloody hate had enthroned itself on the citadel of reason; the thirst for blood was more intense than that of the parched tongue for water. Thousands of bodies lay entombed in the streets. Men and women fell dead from the terror inspired by fear. Rest was but the precursor of the bloody work of the morrow. All around lay the mournfulness of a past in ruins. Monuments erected to perpetuate the names of the noble and brave were ruthlessly destroyed by combustibles. A voice now sounded aloud these words: “Yet once again (“again” always refers to a repeat event! One that has happened before in earth’s temporal journey) I shake not the earth only, but also heaven (This is the fulfillment of Revelations 6:12-17) what is going to cause this “global earthquake?” The approach of a Planet X type object (some past historical names were: Nibiru, The Destroyer, Frightener, which will be seen by most people maybe in 2015-?, perhaps 45 degrees up and 45 degrees right of our Sun (we may see two suns in the sky one day). And this word yet once again signifies the removing of things that are shakes as of things that are made; that those things that cannot be shaken may remain.”
(Heb 12:26-27). The only thing that cannot be shaken and remain is our integrity of character with God and man. If we have sought for and embraced the foundational attributes of godliness in your life, we will not be moved but will stand firm in our foundation and walk in life. All governments and economies will fail us but our integrity won’t (in fact) it will bring us through these times of cataclysmic change with stability and peace of conscience …but only if we have truly developed a spiritual relationship within, with God. Our testimony of this “truth” is the only temple that cannot be moved (1 Corinthians 3: 16-17) if your foundation is in holiness of character and virtue).

Earthquakes rent the earth in vast chasms,
(Rev.6:12-17; 6th Seal time period. This Earthquake is called the “great earthquake”…it is global in its nature: “every mountain and island were moved out of their places…and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth” …this earthquake happens very close to the end of the 6th seal, before the opening of the 7th seal. I personally would put this shaker sometime between 2015 and 2016 winter time. Many people will confuse this earthquake for the Lords Second Coming. This event (6th Seal Earthquake) must take place and so must the “Council of adam-ondi-ahman” before the opening of the 7th Seal) (D&C 77: 9-11) the approach of a Planet X type object will begin to play havoc on the earth and its people for the next several months or years. “letters written by a Jew have wrought great confusion in the finances of the nation which, together with the policy of many wealthy ones, has produced distress and do presage further sorrow.”

Earthquakes rent the earth in vast chasms, which engulfed multitudes; terrible groaning’s and wailings filled the air; the shrieks of the suffering were indescribably awful. Water wildly rushed in from the tumultuous ocean whose very roaring under the mad rage of the fierce cyclone, was unendurable to the ear. Cities were swept away in an instant, missiles were hurled through the atmosphere at a terrible velocity and people were carried upward only to descend on an unrecognized mass. Islands appeared where ocean waves once tossed the gigantic steamer. In other parts voluminous flames, emanating from vast fires, rolled with fearful velocity destroying life and property in their destructive course. The seal of the dread menace of despair was stamped on every human visage; men fell exhausted, appalled and trembling. Every element of nature was a demon of wrathful fury. Dense clouds, blacker than midnight darkness, whose thunders reverberated with intonations which shook the earth, obscured the sunlight. Darkness reigned, (“the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became as blood” Rev. 6: 12. The effects of a Planet X type objece upon the earth) unrivalled and supreme.

Again the light shone, revealing an atmosphere tinged with a leaden hue which was the precursor of an unparalleled plague whose first symptoms were recognized by a purple spot which appeared on the cheek, or on the back of the hand, and which, invariably enlarged until it spread over the entire surface of the body, producing certain death. Mothers, on sight of it, cast away their children as if they were poisonous reptiles. This plague, in grown persons, rotted the eyes in their sockets and consumed the tongue as would a powerful acid or an intense heat. Wicked men, suffering under its writhing agonies, cursed God and died, as they stood on their feet, and the birds of prey feasted on their carcasses. (This is evidence that this plague is not nuclear because the birds of prey feast on dead bodies, if nuclear all forms of life would be dead).

I saw in my dream the messenger again appear with a vial in his right hand (A “vial” is evidence that the beginning or opening of the 7th Seal is taking place. There are 7 terrible plagues that are unleashed on the earth during this time period “Before” the Lord comes in Glory! Perhaps He will come on a Sunday April 6th, his birthday and resurrection anniversary. Knowing the “signs before” His coming is the key to our preparations and understanding… Rev 8:1 measures a period of time (a literal half hour of silence) why? Before this ½ hour of silence, there is almost unbearable noise and commotion from a Planet X type object that effects everyone, and our attention will be attuned to this silence and wonder. The 7th seal begins with a “sounding of a trump” and then the “pouring of a vial,” and there are 7 of these unleashed on earth, which ends with the last plague coming before the Lord Returns in glory! These are all the effects of a Planet X type object encounters with earth), who addressing me, said: “Thou knowest somewhat of the chemistry taught in the schools of human learning; behold now chemistry sufficiently powerful to change the waters of the sea.”

He then poured out his vial upon the sea, (Rev. 8:8-9 & Rev. 16:3; this angel is the same angel who sounds (or warns) and then pours the vial into the sea. This is in the beginning of the 7th Seal time period, before the Lord Comes D&C 77:12) and it became putrid as the blood of a dead man, and every living soul therein died. Other plagues followed that I forbear to record. (For a detailed account of these plagues in this opening period of the 7th seal, read Revelations 8-22 ...note that there are 7 Angels who “sound” (Rev. 8:6) and then “pour” the seven last plagues upon the earth, before the Lord comes in glory which are as follows and take place in the opening part of the 7th Seal) These events will last 7 years and are all brought on by the approach and passing of a Planet X or Nibiru type object, after which the Second Coming of Christ will usher in:

(Angel 1: “And the first angel sounded and there followed hail and fire mingled” (meteorite showers) a “third part of trees…and all green grass was burnt up.” (Rev. 8:7). “the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and their fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image” (Rev. 16:3).

Angel 2: “And the second angel sounded …a great mountain burning with fire (volcanoes’) was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood …the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part o f the ships were destroyed” (Rev. 8:8). “And the second angle poured his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man; and every living soul died in the sea” (Rev 16:3).

(Angel 3: “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (meteorite) from heaven…and it fell upon the third part of the rivers and fountains of waters…and a third of the waters became Wormwood…and many men died of the waters…(Rev. 8:10-11). And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood” Rev. 16:4-7).

(Angel 4: “And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon…stars…so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise” (Rev. 8:12). And the fourth angel poured out of his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire…” (Rev. 16: 8-9).

(Angel 5: “And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven (meteorite) unto the earth…and the sun and the air were darkened …and their power was to hurt men five months. …whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon (In Greek this name means “Destruction from the stars”) “And it was commanded…that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads… One woe is past; and behold, there come two woes more… (Rev. 9:1-12). “And the fifth angel poured out of his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds” (Rev.16:11).

(Angel 6: “And the sixth angel sounded…” (Rev 9:13-21). “And…four angels were loosed, which were bound in the great river Euphrates …for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men… (with)…fire and smoke and brimstone.” “And the sixth angel poured out of his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up…(Rev.16:12-16). “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy (three and one half years) clothed in sackcloth…The second woe is past…” (Rev.11:1-14). “Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth (“keepeth:” meaning to hold sacred your virtue and holiness of character so that our garments remain white) his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon” (Rev.16:15-16).

A foreign power had invaded the nation which, from every human indication, it appeared would seize the government and supplant it with monarchy. I stood trembling at the aspect, when, lo, a power arose in the west which declared itself in favor of the Constitution in its original form; to this suddenly rising power every lover of constitutional rights and liberties throughout the nation gave a hearty support. The struggle was fiercely contested, but the Stars and Stripes floated in the breeze, and bidding defiance to all opposition, waved proudly over the land. Among the many banners I saw, was one inscribed thus; “The government based on the Constitution, now and forever;” on another “Liberty of Conscience, social, religious and political.”

(Angel 7: “…the third woe cometh quickly. … a warning. “And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.”
(Revelation 11:14-19). The seventh angel poured “and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent (76 pounds): and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great (Revelation 16:18 – 21).

The light of the gospel (the good news that all men and women are co-equal and co-eternal and have the potential to become as God is: in character, attributes and perfections …the truth that makes man free) which had but dimly shone because of abomination now burst forth with a luster that filled the earth. (The Lord has now come and the millennium period of 1000 years has begun). Cities appeared in every direction, one of which, in the center of the continent, was an embodiment of architectural science after the pattern of eternal perfections, whose towers glittered with a radiance emanating from the sparkling of emeralds, rubies, diamonds and other precious stones set in a canopy of gold and so elaborately and skillfully arranged as to shed forth a brilliance which dazzled and enchanted the eye, excited admiration and developed a taste for the beautiful beyond anything man had ever conceived. Fountains of crystal water shot upward their clear jets which in the brilliant sunshine, formed ten thousand rainbow tints at once delightful to the eye. Gardens, the perfections of whose arrangements confound all our present attempts or genius, were bedecked with flowers of varied hue to develop and refine the taste, and strengthen a love for these nature’s chastest adornments. Schools and universities were erected to which all had access; in the latter, Urims were placed for the study of the past, present and future, and for obtaining knowledge of the heavenly bodies and of the construction of worlds and universes. The inherent properties of matter, its arrangements, laws and mutual relations were revealed and taught and made plain as the primer lessons of a child. The conflicting theories of geologists regarding the formation and age of the earth were settled forever. All learning was based on eternal certainty. Angles brought forth the treasures of heaven which had lain hid in the womb of the dumb distant past.

The appliances for making learning easy surpassed all conjecture. Chemistry was rendered extremely simple by the power which the Urims conferred on man of looking into and through the elements of every kind; a stone furnished no more obstruction to human vision than the air itself. Not only were the elements and all their changes and transformations plainly understood but the construction, operations, and laws of mind were thus rendered equally plain as those which governed the coarser elements. While looking through the Urim and Thummim I was amazed at a transformation which even now is to me marvelous beyond description, clearly showing the manner in which particles composing the inorganic kingdom of nature are conducted upward to become part of organic forms; another astounding revelation was a view clearly shown me of the entire circulation of the blood both in man and animals. After seeing these things and gazing once more upon the beautiful city, the following passage of Scripture sounded in my ears; “Out of Zion the perfection of beauty, God shineth.”

On this I awoke to find all a dream.


We have to ask ourselves... What would cause the whole earth to "quake"? ... And "Every mountain and island" moved out of its place... Joseph Smith said: "there will appear one grand sign of the Son of Man in heaven. But what will the world do? They will say it is a planet, a comet..."

I have taken particular interest in Joseph's description of the one grand sign; …the one that everyone in the world will see. He said that the world will say it is a planet or a comet. Why will the people of the world describe it as a planet or a comet unless that is what some of our experiences will be like? I think we can surmise from Joseph's comment that perhaps many of the great signs leading up to the Second Coming of the Lord will surely be planet type objects that comes very close to the earth. In fact, I wonder if some will actually come between us and the sun and thus cause "every mountain and island to move out of its place."

Very cool. I have not read all of this before.

[Niemand]

Have you ever heard of the Kolbrin Bible?

A made up, historically dubious and tendencious document written in the late 20th century by a nutcase does not classify as scripture.

I know something of physics (please make me not pull my credentials) and I say that if Nubiru is hidden by the Sun for so long, then it is in direct collision course to that massive star, making it pretty much a problem solved by itself.

I'm sceptical about it myself, but I have a thread about the Kolbrin Book at length, on page 2. I discusss some of its provenance and content, relationship to Celtic languages etc.

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p.s. I thought Nibiru was supposed to have low albedo, hence it is barely visible?