Last Last Days Site

[Rass922]

I trust that anybody that gives it a serious study will find that it is mostly correct and reconciles the many statements that the prophets and scriptures hold for us as well as much of what people have experienced in dreams and visions (And your sons, and your daughters shall prophesy, your young men shall see visions. And your old men shall dream dreams). I don't see how it contradicts one point of doctrine and in fact is a great reconciliation of all the doctrine I could find and all the BS....

RKY opinion of the future "WHAT IS AHEAD...2008 or 2012? "




Roger K.Young: RKY
Posted: Jan. 02, 2006



"Every year (like most people) I take some time to reflect on what has occurred during this last year and what may occur this next year. As part of this, I try to put things into their respective contexts. Of course, the context that concerns me the most is how much longer before the time of collapse and chaos and the 13 month war that quickly follows it.

I have been trying to determine if my estimation on timing has changed. After spending weeks going over everything.... it almost boils down to two points of view: Basically, you have Joel Skousen reporting that the attack by Russia/China/North Korea on the US is being planned for sometime after 2010. (Joel bases his analysis by his extensive evaluation of governmental activities around the world and I believe his analysis to be correct.) On the other side... you have the spiritual side, dreams/visions/etc., indicating that the attack may come sooner...within 4-5 years.

It is important to note that both camps...agree on what is about to happen, and why and how... they only disagree slightly on the timing.

Let me mention four major parts of the spiritual side that occupy my thoughts:

1. George A. Smiths vision. According to Pres Smith (adamantly attested to in writing and in public by brother Horn), The nuclear attack happens at the very end of a presidential election year. The next two are 2008-2012. It happens after a person of Greek extraction is elected. No such person has declared himself a candidate yet...nor is such a person on the radar screen at this time...but the 2008 election is still 2 ½ years away and lots of things can happen.

2. President Hinckley and his reference to the 7 years of plenty followed by 7 years of increasing famine. 7 years from Oct 2005... is Oct 2012. The question is whether that refers to all the world and the ending of all wars (including both the 13 month world war and the 3 ½ years of the Armageddon War) OR... just primarily the righteous getting past the 13 month world war.

I believe that it means primarily the 13 month war...and my reasons are as follows:
A. The armageddon war is centered/located in Israel (not the whole world) and is focused on the Jews (not the church membership and general righteous).
B. However, the 13 month war is all over the world...(and is particularly deadly in America) and kills approximately 1/3 of the earths population. One of the stated main weapons of this war is the use of famines throughout the world.
C. After the 13 month war...the famines for the righteous will be over. Let me explain: The main stated purpose of this 13 month war is to destroy the righteous (the Christians) and especially their stronghold countries (primarily America and England) so that the gadiantons can control the whole world without much opposition. However, it does not fully succeed ...because of God's intervention and the establishment of New Jerusalem/Zion in America...after the miraculous defeat of the Gadianton's armies (Russian/Chinese/Allies) in America. After the end of this 13 month war....the famine in America is over, and the righteous (who flee from all over the world to gather to Zion) have food and safety (peace). And so for the righteous (except for the Jews) the famines are over within a short period of time after the 13 month war.

3. Sarah Menet... the war, or at least the nuclear exchange part of the war, begins unexpectedly by Iran firing a nuclear missile from Libya at Israel. Iran already has the ICBM with the range to do the job. Iran will have the nuclear capability by the end of this year. Even if Israel or the US attacks their nuclear processing plant, it would probably only halt them from making many nuclear weapons. But, despite such a setback...it would be very easy for them (they have lots of oil money) to get one or two nuclear warheads for the sneak attack on Israel...by the end of 2008.

4. Secondary and Terciary spiritual sources...are grouped into this category and include:
A. The personal spiritual insights and feelings of many I know and trust, including several who post on this website.

B. Ken Smith's recent posting of a comment by brother Pederson. I know brother Pederson... he was my backdoor neighbor for a year in AF. Our family has had some very spiritual experiences with him, with the gift of prophecy involved. If Ken is reporting correctly....Brother Pederson indicated that he felt the war would happen within 4-5 years. He also indicated that this would happen after a period of time wherein a large, sudden increase in Church membership occurred. This is the second time I have heard about this sudden increase in membership. The first being from Cleon Skousen 4 years ago recounting some personal conversations he had with his friend President Gordon B. Hinckley about the cleansing of America as described in 3rd Nephi. (More about this later. This is also mentioned in the Cardston vision.)

C. Wolfgram's comments about the war and the economic collapse that precedes the war to a friend of mine when she received a personal blessing from him. (She even questioned him about it afterwards.) The economic collapse starts in 2007 (the 3rd year of the 2nd term of the son of George Bush). Such an economic collapse....would give the elections away from the Republicans to the Democrats...or possibly an unexpected 3rd party candidate. ( It is very possible that somehow Hilliary Clinton will not be the front runner for the Democrats. Probably from some new revelation, expose, criminal charges, etc. which will become public and knock her suddenly out of the race...leaving it open for the Greek extraction surprise candidate. )


Is there a way to logically reconcile the two opinions...so that they agree? I believe so. The Russians and Chinese are preparing for a war. They want to have absolute superiority to insure their ultimate success and believe that they will be ready sometime after 2010. What if the surprise nuclear attack by Iran on Israel triggers the war a year or two earlier than they are actually planning? Once nuclear weapons start flying...anything goes. I believe that this could be the case.

AND SO... BOTTOM LINE.... I believe that we must be prepared for the war at the end of 2008. This means we must be prepared ASAP....because 2006 will be very ugly as far as natural disasters (worse than 2005...perhaps including a major tsunami/earthquake for California?); the price of everything...food, electricity, gasoline, etc...will continue to rise; real estate/housing construction downturn (increasing unemployment); and wickedness (especially ala sodom and gomorah) will become even more rampant. 2007...will be even worse with probably a general stock market collapse (ala the great depression) happening later in the year. Remember, the collapse into utter chaos happens in 2008....BEFORE THE WAR COMES TO THE US...perhaps just before the election happens. "

[HeirofNumenor]

what is this 13 month war? I understand where he is getting 3 & 1/2 years from....but not a 13 month world war...

[Rass922]

what is this 13 month war? I understand where he is getting 3 & 1/2 years from....but not a 13 month world war...

The Scripture is Revelation Chapter 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year,for to slay the third part of men.

[HeirofNumenor]

what is this 13 month war? I understand where he is getting 3 & 1/2 years from....but not a 13 month world war...

The Scripture is Revelation Chapter 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year,for to slay the third part of men.

Thank you...


This seems to me more like that was (symbolic - inclusive of many units of time) just the angels' length of time spent in preparing to slay 1/3 of men...rather than the duration of a another war of mankind...

[Esmekker]

Before the Lord preaches His own sermond to the earth, He will call home His missionaries from the four corners of the earth.

[kathyn]

Welcome, Esmekker. The variety of opinions here can be startling at times. I do think that if/when the missionaries are called home, we'll be in for the ride of our lives.

[TrojanHorse]

what is this 13 month war? I understand where he is getting 3 & 1/2 years from....but not a 13 month world war...

The Scripture is Revelation Chapter 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year,for to slay the third part of men.

Thank you...


This seems to me more like that was (symbolic - inclusive of many units of time) just the angels' length of time spent in preparing to slay 1/3 of men...rather than the duration of a another war of mankind...

I know that the Book of Revelation is full of symbolism. But if it was all symbolic we all would have a very hard time knowing when we see these things occur. So I believe that much of what we think of as symbolic in Revelation is actually literal. We just haven't seen or recognized it yet. But we also have to remember when John saw modern warfare he didn't have the words to describe what he saw. So he had to use representative words, or, in other words, what we would call symbols. But if you look closely at his description of the locusts coming out of the smoke in a war which lasts 5 months where hardly anyone is hurt in Revelation 9:4-6, it sure appears to me (and many others) this was describing the Desert Storm war in pretty good detail.

Note, that war was John's 5th woe. The 6th woe is the 13 month war described in second half of chapter 9. This war will kill a third part of men according to verse 18. The size of all of the armies involved is 200,000,000. That is bigger than all armies combined today. But since China and Russia use conscription to gather their armies, this can and will happen quickly. The only thing which can kill 1/3 of all mankind in a short 13 months is a worldwide nuclear war. According to BRM "atomic holocausts...surely shall be". So I contend that there is much in Revelation which is not symbolic. I would prefer to call his wording "imaginative".

[samizdat]

Checked your site. A few interesting points to be sure, but I thought it would be extremely difficult to get a mag 8 quake in Utah. A 7.5 I could see coming. I would be more worried about a 9 in Mexico or California.

The United States is not going to go down with lots of nukes in my opinion. Three or four nukes launched and exploded at high altitude would be more than sufficient, that coupled with famine and bad economic conditions

[the_sign]

Between your last two entries on your home page ("Places of Safety" and "More Time") began a fulfillment of a prophecy from the 16th century (A.D.)

It was a foretelling of two who would go to war on a specific day, and because of my perspective, I felt the animosity brewing for months (even years) before that day, but my reckoning of it also included the falling asleep of a brother and the inclusion of major Feast Days in the Liturgical Year; this led to the interpretation (opening and unsealing) of the Book of Daniel specific to the four digit numbers within its chapters (verses).

I had even told two members of LDS at my residence during that brewing about how so many of the fulfillments of Daniel 11 were unique to the place they were visiting.

So, in a way, you haven't really missed this, but gaps in communication often occur and there is no written inclusion of it at your site, nor would I actually expect there to be due to the complexities.

Most notable, like your site name and my opening paragraph here, are the two largest four digit numbers of the Book of Daniel, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12, and Holy Family Saturday, December 30, 2018 A.D., the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14.

Regular updates to the Day of the Lord at :

http://risen-from-the-dead.forumotion.com/

[LdsMarco]

So I'm looking at 2017 list you have on your website and it seems to me that it's pretty much THE END OF THE WORLD. I can tell you what I don't see on this list.

1) Total Eclipse
2) Hurricanes
3)Earthquakes that already happened

[LdsMarco]

Everything begins with Elias. Where is he? When will he appear? The list doesn't say. The end times prophecies do not begin until after he appears.

The term Elias, as used here, is not a personal name but a title. Therefore more than one individual can act as an Elias. This is true both for a restorer Elias and a preparer Elias. The scriptures specifically mention three individuals whose missions involved acting as a restorer Elias. They are the angel Gabriel, who is Noah, (DC 27:6-7, see also HOC 3:386), John the Revelator (Rev 10:10, DC 77:14), and Christ (JST John 1:28).

Joseph Fielding Smith said:

"This name (Elias) is a title which is applied to several prophets, and has reference to their office as messengers sent to prepare the way for a greater work. John the Baptist is spoken of as Elias, because he prepared the way before the ministry of the Lord. Joseph Smith is an Elias because he was sent to prepare the way for the second coming of our Lord.

"The Prophet has explained in his teachings the differences in the missions of Elias, Elijah, and Messiah.

"'The spirit of Elias is first, Elijah second, and Messiah last. Elias is a forerunner to prepare the way, and the spirit and power of Elijah is to come after, holding the keys of power, building the Temple to the capstone, placing the seals of the Melchizedek Priesthood upon the house of Israel, and making all things ready; then Messiah comes to His Temple, which is last of all.

"'Messiah is above the spirit and power of Elijah, for He made the world, and was that spiritual rock unto Moses in the wilderness.' (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 340)" (Answers to Gospel Questions, 4: 194-5.)

[gardener4life]

I see a couple problems here with some of your comments friends. Just a reminder we are friends. But I want to correct some incorrect information.

If a man is more in the knowledge of the world that doesn't make them more trustworthy over someone studying the word of God. Someone commented so and so was more trustworthy because they knew more about the world. In a spiritual type of thinking that is like saying, lets go trust that guy over in the great and spacious building because he's measured how tall it is. So he must know more about the tree of life than us too.

Someone else said its 'a fool's errand' to study the signs of the times. That's kind of off if you ask me. Think about it. The five foolish virgins were just that...foolish. Why? Because they listened to someone else mocking them saying its a fools errand to put oil in your lamps, you could go have fun instead. Then they became fools by listening to the guy that mocked studying the things of God. (Even if your dates are wrong that's just like condemning the weaknesses of the messengers.)

[BeNotDeceived]

So I'm looking at 2017 list you have on your website and it seems to me that it's pretty much THE END OF THE WORLD. I can tell you what I don't see on this list.

1) Total Eclipse
2) Hurricanes
3) Earthquakes that already happened

Q3&Irma was being forecast as Q2&Harvey was being estimated, when the first eclipse occurred.

A second total solar eclipse is now forecast to occur 4/8/2024, seven years after Q2 began in 2017.

[the_sign]

Then they became fools by listening to the guy that mocked studying the things of God.

That is how Puerto Rico, a protectorate, came to be so devastated.

[BeNotDeceived]

Then they became fools by listening to the guy that mocked studying the things of God.

That is how Puerto Rico, a protectorate, came to be so devastated.

Man’s failure to “subdue” the Earth as commanded in Genesis 1:28

Puerto Rico has the best location, natural resources and market conditions to built and operate the 1st OTEC commercial plant in the world TODAY. - Manuel A.J. Laboy, Secretary of Economic Development and Commerce of Puerto Rico

TODAY, I extend the benefit further with a contention that OTEC can also neutralize hurricanes (and cyclones and typhoons). I use neutralize, for the effect might well be two-fold: prevent the formation of this damaging storm and diminish the severity if one forms.

2 day is the common word in both articles: weird

[the_sign]

Man’s failure to “subdue” the Earth as commanded in Genesis 1:28

The local bishops refused to accept that Heaven had visited their island in the person of the Co-Redemptrix, telling them to build the Celestial City.

[BeNotDeceived]

Man’s failure to “subdue” the Earth as commanded in Genesis 1:28

The local bishops refused to accept that Heaven had visited their island in the person of the Co-Redemptrix, telling them to build the Celestial City.

What local bishops

[James-T-Prout]

I've been following this thread for a good while now.

I am the author of books of events of the last-days. However, my knowledge is far from complete. I don't think this topic will ever be hammered down until future history becomes past history.

From what I can tell of the event order of the last-days there are many people speaking of extra-curricular prophecies that may or may not come to pass. I'm assuming that some are legit and some are not.

However, the Holy Scriptures will all come to pass. That is a promise by The Redeemer himself.

the-Sign - please elaborate upon Co-Redemptrix. Also the command to build the Celestial city. thank you.

LDS Anarchist - yes, I agree that the prophetic timeline is moving along. I'll communicate with you personally by email on furthering the Josephite. Thank you.

[the_sign]

the-Sign - please elaborate upon Co-Redemptrix. Also the command to build the Celestial city. thank you.

This Belgian apparition and associated prophecy includes our current final 402 days remaining until the Day of the Lord (Holy Family Sunday, Sunday after the Nativity, Sunday before the Theophany, December 30, 2018 A.D.) :

http://ourlady3.tripod.com/LadyofNations.htm

This article cites "Mystical Mount" :

https://www.ncronline.org/news/spiritua ... t-approved

The article at one point also centers upon Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12.

The actual text for "Celestial City" is quoted in a highly heretical version denouncing all Marian apparitions to which I will not provide a link.

[James-T-Prout]

Hi The_Sign,

Do you happen to be a Roman Catholic on an LDS Forum?

i'm interested if you are.

From what I can tell, all the older religions on the planet have their own prophecies.

Could you talk with me by hitting the Contact the Author link at the top of my site:
www.LastDaysTimeline.com

Thank you

Best,
James

[the_sign]

Hi The_Sign,

Hi, James.

Just to let you know, your LastDaysTimeline link returns a server error message for me.

I've actually never considered myself to be much of a Roman Catholic because, in essence, I died before the Roman Catholic Church even began, though the Roman Catholic Church regards me as a saint, and I would have to admit that I have had a hand in its foundation, even if only as an early witness to the Roman Catholic Church's Founder, Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

When it comes to 'other religions' than those of the Old and New Covenants, I find it to be like looking into the vast expanse of the universe and imagining that Our Creator has had other dealings with other beings in other galaxies, maybe in other periods of time unknown to us, perhaps for some purpose in the future. I know in one of the Pauline letters a reference is made to what was basically called the heathen at that time, and St. Paul describes how seemingly by instinct the presence of God is made known through them.

When I look at our history, however, it is so poignant, so simple and real, that such imaginings remain to actually have any lasting substance attached to them. Distinguishing between fact and fiction becomes very important, and the saints throughout generations have helped with that, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life.

The reality for me is that at the end of the day, I conclude that there is One God, One Faith, One Religion, One Church, and I know from the Gospels that Christ Jesus, Himself, has prayed for such unity.

[Matchmaker]

Between your last two entries on your home page ("Places of Safety" and "More Time") began a fulfillment of a prophecy from the 16th century (A.D.)

It was a foretelling of two who would go to war on a specific day, and because of my perspective, I felt the animosity brewing for months (even years) before that day, but my reckoning of it also included the falling asleep of a brother and the inclusion of major Feast Days in the Liturgical Year; this led to the interpretation (opening and unsealing) of the Book of Daniel specific to the four digit numbers within its chapters (verses).

I had even told two members of LDS at my residence during that brewing about how so many of the fulfillments of Daniel 11 were unique to the place they were visiting.

So, in a way, you haven't really missed this, but gaps in communication often occur and there is no written inclusion of it at your site, nor would I actually expect there to be due to the complexities.

Most notable, like your site name and my opening paragraph here, are the two largest four digit numbers of the Book of Daniel, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12, and Holy Family Saturday, December 30, 2018 A.D., the 2,300th day of Daniel 8:14.

Regular updates to the Day of the Lord at :

http://risen-from-the-dead.forumotion.com/

I tried to view this forum but access to it was blocked.

[the_sign]

I tried to view this forum but access to it was blocked.

Could you post a print-out of the blockage in PDF format for examination?

[Matchmaker]

I tried to view this forum but access to it was blocked.

Could you post a print-out of the blockage in PDF format for examination?

The page that blocks my view of the forum is the one that starts with, "Daniel in the Holy Bible (cursed be the wikipedia editors against this). I can't raise it up or move the page in any way. It blocks almost my entire view of the forum page.

[the_sign]

The page that blocks my view of the forum is the one that starts with, "Daniel in the Holy Bible (cursed be the wikipedia editors against this). I can't raise it up or move the page in any way. It blocks almost my entire view of the forum page.

That is the optional text pop-up box which is currently set to active.

Click the button marked "Do not display again" at the lower right of the pop-up box and it will close (disappear).