"call out" announcment this week end at conference!

[Squally]

TonyOlsen

It appears you live in my families neighborhood of Keokuk. Ever hear of the McCrary's?

Nope... can't say I have...

Tony O, Then you must be inactive.

[Squally]

No call out this time...lol:

And I prophesy there won't be a call-out next conference either! 8)

'We're not going anywhere!' - W. Cleon Skousen

I heard a subliminal callout mentioned in conference, and that is why now I live in a van with a trailer down by the river. (munching on foodstorage as I type, inside a tent with a laptop with wifi) Only the most righteous are called out by the way. Sorry for all of you who missed it.

[Jason]

I see 2 extremes here, neither of which I personally believe in:

1) Those who claim there will never be a "call out". Truth is... I don't know if we know how "the gathering" will present itself. (I will say that I've seen a few things where people moved in an unrelated mass based on spiritual guidance they didn't understand the meaning of... but obeyed.)

2) Those who believe and follow the dreams of those who have no authority to speak for the Church. (I didn't notice any such people on this thread... but many on this thread have mentioned those types of people).

I think there have been various "call-outs" (of a sort) over time which it appears most members haven't followed. President Hinckley's "call-out" to the members to get out of debt... right before the Housing bubble burst. How many members lost their homes because they didn't heed the advice?... how many more will yet still lose their homes for still not heeding that advice?

The Prophets warn us... that's what they do.

President Ezra Taft Benson warned us of the evil of Socialism... and yet many members ignored his counsel.

I would not be so quick to mock. You may unknowingly tread on sacred ground.

Did you get the call out message last night from Brother Skog for this weekend's preparation? I heard about it from my in-laws...the McDaniels....who are assigned to Brother Querto's group along with Sister Jameson's family and a couple others. Which group are you in?

Shame to have to leave the home of one of the oldest branches in the church!

Bummer... the Keokuk Branch's website is a couple of years out of date. We're now on our 2nd branch president since President Skog.

Ok, so you have a Church website logon, meaning that you are in fact a member. Good to know.

LOL Just testing the ignore button....FYI - might not post your resume on here....but just a thought and suggestion....do with it what you will!

[creator]

Considering that there were "call outs" in the Book of Mormon under the direction of the 'Prophet'... I don't dismiss the possibility of a Church-wide callout... however, what I don't pay attention to is all the false predictions.

For the past 5 years it seems that there's at least 2 call out predictions for each year, none of them have turned out true, along with all the other predictions... Last time I looked at the AVOW/RKY "prediction tracker" the only prediction that actually happened was one made by Steve Jones, I think it was related to the economy.

[Ezekiel]

I agree a Church-wide call out could be possible, but I think that each family and each individual will be prompted by the spirit regarding whether they should move or not. I have a feeling that saints in las vegas aka sin city will be "called out" pretty quick

[creator]

Hey everyone... I haven't been on the forum much lately because the availability of internet out here (tent city 42c) is very unreliable. Did anyone else get called to tent city #42 or nearby? Maybe we could setup a weekly gathering near the rocky terrace just west of the pond. Let me know. This is definitely a much different experience than I imagined it would be.

[Mullenite]

Hey everyone... I haven't been on the forum much lately because the availability of internet out here (tent city 42c) is very unreliable. Did anyone else get called to tent city #42 or nearby? Maybe we could setup a weekly gathering near the rocky terrace just west of the pond. Let me know. This is definitely a much different experience than I imagined it would be.

QUOTE:

A Warning From the Dreamer !
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:12 PM
Subject: Fw: Dreamer talks about Salt Lake City in the Future !



Dreamer talks about Salt Lake City in the Future !




Dream Summary ONE

From what my dreams have told me, I gather that the prepared Saints are leaving their homes to escape the end of the world as we've known it. The planning for this exodus has been under way at high levels in the church for years. Vast amounts of preparation have gone into the effort before it is ever made known at the Stake or Ward levels. Resources are already in place before the events shown in the dreams begin to take place.


The first dreams in the chronology take place in what is obviously my own Stake Center in xxxxxxx, Utah. There are a series of meetings which take place in the High Council Room (which I recognize) of this building, between brethren that I do not recognize, and members of my own Stake Presidency and High Council. These meetings are attended only by invited brethren, and the strictest confidence is maintained.


Other similar meetings are being held throughout the Church. Each area's responsible leaders report to headquarters at Salt Lake City by various means, including telephone, electronic mail, and even satellite link when necessary.


At these meetings, a plan is revealed for getting the prepared Saints from their homes to prearranged places of relative safety. Over the course of a number of these meetings, the effort is organized in a manner strikingly similar to that used when the Saints were preparing to leave the eastern U.S. for the valleys of the Great Basin.


There are to be overall leaders in charge of large numbers of people. Under these brethren, others serve as captains of 100, and as captains of 20. Logistics are managed using the basic underpinnings of emergency preparedness that the Church has been teaching since the 1930's.

Arrangements for trucks to haul food storage items and other necessities are made. Telephone calling trees are arranged as necessary, as are other means of communication, including specific people assigned as runners, couriers, and go-betweens when necessary.


Finally, on one critical Sabbath day, as the normal meeting block nears its end, the bishop of my ward (and presumably bishops throughout the church on the same day) stands at the pulpit, and gives a rather strange announcement. He asks that those who have their year's supply of food and other necessities ready at home, stay behind at the end of meeting block. All others (including curiosity seekers) are pointedly asked NOT to attend. This is strictly enforced.


Once the furor has died down, and the chapel doors have again been closed (being guarded by trusted brethren preassigned to the task), the Bishop lays out a plan which requires a great deal of faith from the attendees. He says that very early on the following morning, trucks manned by able-bodied brethren will move around the ward, and these men will upload the food storage supplies, carefully marked as to who they belong to, from the homes of each of the prepared families into the trucks for transport.


Family members will be asked to prepare themselves and their immediate families for a long journey, as they will be away from home for an extended period. These people will be loaded onto buses for a journey to a place of safety. These people are warned that conditions will often be quite harsh, and that creature comforts as such will be few.


A few families will be allowed to bring RV's, house trailers and the like, with the understanding that these will be used for special purposes after arrival at the destination. Some of these RV's will have been equipped by their owners for special purposes such as generating power or heat, providing makeshift command posts, improvised medical infirmaries, and the like. Strict attention will be paid to practicality, and few resources expended on luxuries. Allowances will be made for pregnant women, those currently ill, and for newborn infants to be housed in such "hardened" quarters as the RVs may provide. Most ward members will be quartered in tents, or whatever other shelter may be available at the various destination points.

Most ward members will be asked to leave with only what they are wearing, and a few small bags containing personal items, prescription medications, and other similar necessities. They are to lock their homes securely, and bring with them only essential items, important papers, and so on.


The whole process is to be done quietly, with an effort being made to maintain as much secrecy as possible. It is stressed repeatedly that there is no reason to fear, but that there are real reasons for haste.


One of the most vivid of the dreams (and among the first I experienced) has repeated itself quite a number of times, each time from a slightly different point of view, and with different feelings and impressions noted each time.


The scene is the west parking lot of my Stake Center. It's evident that similar events are occurring throughout the church.


It's very early on what appears to be a morning in late winter in the valley of the Great Salt Lake. The moon has set in the west not long before, and the constellation Orion isn't far above the western horizon. As I stand in the parking lot of the building, looking toward the east, I see the constellations that will, in a few weeks, be part of the springtime evening sky rising at this pre-dawn hour.


The position of the constellations, coupled with the fact that participants are dressed in winter clothing, and that there are still patches of unmelted snow on the ground confirms that the time of year is indeed, late winter.


People are milling about, speaking in hushed tones. Only a few lights are burning in the Stake Center. Most light comes from flashlights carried by brethren helping families onto buses which wait grouped around the building. The whole effort is well organized and orderly, as sleepy-eyed children and their somewhat bewildered parents are helped aboard buses, while a careful accounting is kept of which families are aboard which buses. No one must be left behind, and family members must not be allowed to get separated.


The supply trucks and RV's have already moved out when the last of the buses is loaded, and the journey to prepared places of refuge begins. The buses move out in caravan well before the first rays of sunlight touch the mountains to the west.


As this dream ends each time, I hear the squeak of snow underfoot, and the crunching of small cinders under my boot soles as I walk down the steep hills toward home. The air is almost painfully cold in the pre-dawn darkness. The Stake Center sits now fully darkened, its parking lots empty behind me, and I feel alone almost to the point of fear.


For reasons that have never been made clear, I have been asked (along with a few others in my area) to remain behind. The reasons for this haven't been made clear, except that they have something to do with the xxxxxxx Temple. One of the greatest mysteries in this whole series of dreams is why I've been asked to stay behind when there are so many better-qualified brethren among us. I just don't know....


As time has gone on, I have had many dreams which speak of economic collapse not just in our country, but around the world. America's great power, both economic and military, has been eroded to the point where America is just one poor nation among many. Oil and related energy prices have risen to the level where just getting by takes every dollar most families can generate. Gasoline, what little there is of it, is simply too expensive to use for most of us. Personal cars lie abandoned in driveways, or wherever in the streets they ran out of fuel.


Natural gas for heating homes no longer flows through the pipelines much of the time. Most of us live in cold, rather dark homes. Candles are at a premium, since electrical power is only available a few hours a day, when it's available at all. People have been forced to hunker down. Times are harder than we've experienced since pioneer days.


Food is in similarly short supply, since the energy costs in producing it have outstripped the resources of the producers. Civilian air travel has virtually ceased, since energy costs have made running a profitable airline almost impossible. Only military aircraft pass overhead, albeit infrequently. Railroads still operate at skeleton levels, moving what little freight remains to be transported.


Internationally, much of western Europe is all but dark, since oil flowing to the west from the former Soviet Union has been all but cut off by those running the Kremlin. Old alliances are being firmed up again between mainland China and the Russian bear. Naval fleets are being readied, as are the largest standing armies in the world.


The Middle East is afire, with Israel hanging on by its fingernails, struggling just to exist in a world bent on its destruction. Al Qaida and similar organizations have turned much of the world into a killing ground, from the Middle East, through Indonesia and the Far East. Radical Islam holds sway in an ever-growing portion of the world. Terrorism is rampant.


Through all of this, the U.S. military is entirely unable to cope. Its resources have been consumed, and its personnel driven beyond exhaustion in wars of attrition in the Middle East, and on the Korean peninsula. Government leadership has ordered them to fight on, even when it has become obvious that victory is impossible. Aircraft, vehicles, and fighting gear from tanks to rifles is/are all worn out, and there is no funding to replace them. The once-proud military of the Cold War has been replaced by a force of willing, brave men and women, with nothing to fight with. Determination can only carry these people so far; and they've exceeded that limit.


Australia's position in the world has become untenable. Since virtually all of its fuel, metal, oil, and other raw material needs must be met via import from overseas, this huge island is effectively just that; a large and helpless island. Starvation has become commonplace, as has disease, and the lawlessness that comes with despair. Airline travel has all but stopped, and ships leaving the country are few. Piracy on the high seas has become commonplace in the waters around both Australia and New Zealand. Murder of crews and passengers is commonplace, and beyond the reach of law enforcement to control. To travel away by sea is not a good alternative.


The media have been taken over by propaganda-generating organizations. People are being lied to on the grandest scale in human history. The United States is slowly being invaded by outside forces, military and paramilitary. There are only limited moves to stop the invasion, since most people are unaware that it is happening.

Dream Summary TWO


have joined the caravans to relative safety have arrived at their destinations in a number of other dreams. Most are housed in what are effectively tent cities. Again, much of the organization of these tent cities resembles the settlements of pioneer times.

There are local governments in each camp, run strictly along church lines. Communication between camps is mostly by courier, with only occasional communications from church headquarters in Salt Lake City.

Those people who are unable to work (the elderly, the infirm, young children, etc.) are cared for as well as circumstances permit. Those who are physically and mentally fit to work are expected to do so. Those who refuse to work, or who do not adhere to the rules of the camps are dealt with severely. Banishment without supplies or tools is used as punishment in most cases. In extreme instances, these individuals are eliminated.
Those with special training (medical doctors and nurses, engineers with experience in areas such as structural engineering, water purification, agricultural production, and so on) put their talents and training to work at building needed structures, providing drinkable safe water to the encampments, and building and working in greenhouses to help grow food for barter, and to augment the stored food supply for each camp.

My dreams haven't told me precisely where these encampments are located, except to make it clear that at least some of them are in places where they are "hiding in plain sight" from the bands of roving troublemakers (whom I think of as two-legged predators) which fan out from the cities in search of food, or whatever else they can find.

I can only make some guesses as to where some of these camps are located. At least one is in the Heber valley of northern Utah. Several more are in various places in the rugged mountains of southern Idaho. I know this because I'm familiar with the terrain in these areas, and it strongly resembles that seen in my dreams. At least one of the Idaho encampments is in a heavily wooded area, where even at midday, only a little sunlight penetrates.

I believe that at least one camp is located not far from Las Vegas, Nevada. Yet another lies in or near the Sangre de Cristo Mountains of New Mexico.

Another encampment, largely housed underground in a complex built in the 1950's for protection from atomic attack, lies somewhere in Maryland. There is a second encampment somewhere in the Catoctin Mountains of Maryland, and a third elsewhere in northern Virginia. How I know these things I am not certain, because I've never visited either Maryland or Virginia; but I'm convinced the encampments are there.

There are enclaves in the red rock country of southern Utah, and in northern Arizona.

----
Many of the world's great cities either lie in ruin, or have largely been abandoned to roving bands of two-legged predators. London is a battleground, as is Tel Aviv. Paris has again been taken over by invaders of various stripes. Berlin is barely habitable.

In the U.S., Los Angeles and San Francisco are jammed with desperate people trying to ride out the storm. Much of Boston's low-lying areas are in ruin, having been destroyed by water in cataclysmic tidal waves. Only the Boston Temple and its outbuildings are untouched by the waters.
Chicago is another urban battleground, with battle lines being drawn between ethnic groups. In that regard, it resembles London, Tel Aviv, Paris, and Berlin.

The only city I've been shown that may have endured atomic attack is Denver, Colorado. Much of the city is flattened, though this might have been done by conventional explosives if enough of them were used in a coordinated fashion. Survivors along the Front Range have fled to the surrounding mountains. Those trapped in Denver itself are in desperate straits indeed.

In Salt Lake City, life in daytime is rugged. Roving bands of street toughs rob, steal, loot, and take over whole city blocks. Those who remain in the city trying to live, hide almost constantly from these thugs. For those trapped here, it must be like living in Iraq was during the second Gulf War. At night, the streets are deserted. One must never venture out at night....

The understory of the area around Temple Square is gridded with an extensive network of well-secured underground tunnels. Temple Square itself is almost pristine. Church government continues to function here, though entry to the square is strictly controlled. Entry to the tunnel network is heavily defended, and the whole system is virtually impregnable to any but those authorized to be here.


Dream Summary THREE

Many of my dreams (which recur many times, sometimes separated from each other by weeks) concern my own activities as a "stay-behinder" in this story. It's never really made clear to me why only a few of us have stayed behind at the request of our leaders. Again, the only thing I can say with certainty, is that it has something to do with the XXXXX Temple.

Whether we serve there as caretakers, overseers, workers performing special ordinances, or for whatever reason I cannot tell. I do know that we still dress always in white, maintain the customary reverent silence by talking in whispers, and behave much as we do during today's routine ordinance work.

Since there is little or no electrical power available on the city's grid, and Diesel fuel for the Temple's generators is extremely expensive and hard to obtain, I can only assume that the halls of the temple are largely dark and quiet. This building was designed in times when electrical power was always readily available, so that light coming in from outside wasn't critical. I have no idea how we manage in this tomb-like building in the daytime, never mind during the hours of the night when even light from the outside is at a minimum. Somehow, whatever the work is that we're expected to do, we manage.

The Temple has become a place dreaded, and often feared by outsiders.

I can't help remembering reading a fable as a child, where Grendel's cave was the terrible place to avoid.

In this case, the XXXXXX Temple is such a place. Most people avoid it as if it were haunted. Many who go there with the idea of breaking into it either to destroy it, or to take whatever treasures they may find within, never return to report their adventures. The Temple has a reputation among the desperate of the area, as a place to watch carefully, and to stay away from.

One scenario that has recurred many times in my dreams (interestingly enough, seen through the eyes of more than one participant during multiple repeats) is one where a group of armed men, some on horseback, approach the front door of the Temple on the main-floor level. These men are not in military uniform, but are heavily armed with sporting rifles, and the sorts of other improvised weapons that two-legged predators are wont to carry in this time.

We inside hear them coming, and for whatever reason, I'm elected to go out and talk to them. Perhaps I'm just taking my turn, since there are other brethren inside at least as able as I am to deal with the situation. As I said, for whatever reason, this time is my time....

We manage to slide open one of the large doors in the glassed-in alcove that fronts the temple, and I step outside onto a patch of snow-encrusted concrete on the easternmost side of the alcove. I'm dressed in the usual white suit, carrying my cane, and limping a bit. The door is slid shut behind me, and the brethren inside quickly disappear (as we always do) behind the screen backing the recommend desk.

The men outside quickly point their weapons at me, until I remind them that they're pointing loaded guns at an unarmed man who limps, and walks with a cane. Even among thugs, there must be at least a particle of honor, since most lower their weapons while glancing at each other through the corners of their eyes.

The leader of the group (one of the men on horseback) tells me that they are at the temple to search it for weapons, food, or things of value, and then to destroy it by fire. I reply that they, the "unclean" (not a word I'd normally use in daily conversation) are not allowed to enter. I tell them that there are no weapons or worldly treasures inside, no soldiers, and only a little food.

I beg them repeatedly to leave the Temple, and those of us inside, in peace. They refuse.

There's a disconnect here that is consistent. I've never seen what happens next.

The next thing I DO see is that the horses have dumped their human cargo and are fleeing at top speed, looking over their shoulders as if the very hounds of hell were after them. Most of the humans are making tracks through the heavy snow too, moving as fast as they can in snow almost to their knees. A few men remain face-down in the snow; whether simply unconscious, or dead, I do not know.

Whatever has happened to them, I'm absolutely certain I didn't do it. Someone, or something else has turned this group of well-armed would-be invaders into fleeing rabble.

The good brethren inside reappear to open the door, and welcome me inside. We resume our duties as before. The incident is closed. The first time I saw this incident, I realized that the Temple itself is essentially pristine. There's not so much as a broken window, or a scratch on the white limestone of the exterior.

It's obvious though, that this isn't the first attempt to enter the Temple by outsiders. The fence surrounding the Temple is in ruin, having been pushed down from the outside by heavy vehicles of some sort. The snow outside is badly churned up, with the grass underneath having been torn up by what appear by the tracks, to have been heavy equipment of some sort.

Whatever did this, it never touched the Temple itself. Whoever wanted in didn't get in. The Temple itself is as it has always been.







Dream Summary FOUR



Those of us intentionally left behind evidently do not spend all of our time at the Temple. We return to our homes and ward buildings at least occasionally. We appear to move always (or almost always) on foot. Occasionally, I see these visits taking place in the warmer months of the year, but most seen so far occur at times of the year when snow is still evident in some amount.

I often see myself either approaching the Temple from the south (the direction of my home), or leaving it heading to the south toward home. The still-spectacular view to the west from XXXXXXXX is impossible to misidentify. This is where it's happening.

As I walk down my street, I see the homes of neighbors, many of whom I've known for decades, lying abandoned. The homes look as if their owners simply walked out the front door, closed and locked it behind them, and walked away.

The signs of vandalism are obvious as many houses and other buildings have broken windows and smashed-in doors. From a few windows, curtains flap in the wind through broken-out windows. My own home seems relatively secure, though it's obvious that vandals have at least attempted to approach it. I can see their tracks in the snow. I have no idea why my home has been spared this destruction, but I'm grateful for it.

By now there is a terrible disease evident in the land. People are dying by the thousands, though the shortwave radio stations still broadcasting try to convince the people that the death toll is much smaller than it actually is. People are being reassured that the disease, whatever it is, will soon by controlled by scientists working in some undisclosed location.

My own training in medical biology makes the fact that these broadcasts are lies obvious.

The disease kills quickly, and is no respecter of age, gender, or ethnic extraction. Infected persons fall ill with influenza-like symptoms, quickly sicken, and die within as little as a few hours, or as much as a few days. Antibiotics are of no help against this malady. The disease bears all the sinister earmarks of a virus, though it behaves in ways that no virus I'm familiar with does.

For whatever reason, those of us left behind seem unaffected by the disease, though we encounter infected corpses on a daily basis, and occasionally encounter people barricaded into their homes, who are suffering and dying from it. Food, it appears, can stave off death for a time; but eventually all who are infected die.

The disease, I learn, is occasionally seen in the encampments of the Saints, though it kills only a few, sparing even those in close contact with patients as they care for the sick.




Dream Summary FIVE



By now it is dangerous to move about outdoors at any time, and deadly to move about between sunset and sunrise. People trying to hang on in their homes or places of business have learned the hard way not to be caught outside after dark. Roving predators, most of them human, are hunting at night for the unwary.

One must never show a light at night.

Those of us who do move about on our assigned errands encounter wildlife more and more frequently as time passes. Wild things are moving out of the surrounding hills, and returning to their old haunts, though those haunts are now filled with abandoned homes and other buildings. We see deer daily, foraging wherever they can find a bit of green to eat. Raccoons, birds of many kinds, skunks, coyotes, and even an occasional cougar are seen. We can approach them very closely without fear of being attacked, and without their fleeing at the sight of us. I do not know why.

Sadly, we encounter many domestic dogs, abandoned to their fate by those who have gone. Many are obviously skeletal with hunger, and desperate for food and human contact. Those of us left behind are somehow able to approach them without their running in fear from us, and without being attacked ourselves. It seems that if we lead them back to the Temple, somehow they can melt into the surrounding hills and regain their strength. As we work in the Temple at night, we can sometimes hear them howling, or see them as we watch from the windows or the rooftop, seemingly "patrolling" the area. They alert us to approaching humans by barking, and we're grateful. They are awake when we are not.

Perhaps this is why the pioneer families often kept their dogs with them. They serve as living alarm systems for intruders.




Dream Summary SIX







On many occasions, I find myself having to move around at night on foot. Usually, I am alone; but occasionally one or two other brethren accompany me. We are usually either heading home, or heading out to forage for ourselves. Why we choose to move at night on these errands when moving outside at night is so dangerous, is unclear. We each carry a backpack with a day or two worth of food and water, a sleeping bag and other basic gear, and some sort of optical aid such as a pair of binoculars. We each have with us a source of light, though I'm not certain if this is a flashlight. We never seem to lack for light when we need it, though I never remember seeing any of us using a flashlight or lantern.

Even a trip home, a distance of just over three miles, warrants carrying full gear. In winter, I find myself using a shoulder-height walking stick to struggle along through the snow on the unplowed roads and paths. The stick was given to me many years ago by an old friend, now long on other side of the veil. It brings back fond memories of a fine man, now safely among the "dead" on the other side.

We who are left behind are somehow cared for, though I've seen a number of errands where I/we are foraging for food in abandoned homes. One incident that comes strongly to mind is my finding a large, unopened bottle of peanut butter. I stow it in my pack with regret that I cannot pay for it somehow, or thank its former owner. It goes back with me to the Temple, where I presume we consume it together over time.

We must have enough, but just barely enough to keep us going.

On quite a number of occasions on my errands (whether in daylight or in darkness) I encounter two-legged predators, armed to the teeth and very dangerous indeed.

Again, there is a disconnect here. As a broken man, I would be an easy target for any of these ruffians. They should rob or kill me at every encounter, but don't seem to get the chance.

For whatever reason, I see them fleeing from me. I have no idea who or what is protecting me. Evidently my would-be attackers DO see something. They run as if being pursued by something or someone very dangerous. I never see who or what my protector or protectors are.




Dream Summary SEVEN





Life in the camps becomes routine, and the invaders, some of whom are in gray uniforms, others in khaki or camo gear, don't seem to be able to see the encampments even when they pass close by. Their air support, mostly helicopters, seem equally unable to detect the righteous.

The camps and their thousands of righteous occupants hide literally in plain sight.
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My dreams have yet to show me the resolution of these situations. The story is ongoing.

I will amend this document as more information becomes available.

For now, on the evening of December 31, 2007, I'll close this account.

[clarkkent14]

Hey everyone... I haven't been on the forum much lately because the availability of internet out here (tent city 42c) is very unreliable. Did anyone else get called to tent city #42 or nearby? Maybe we could setup a weekly gathering near the rocky terrace just west of the pond. Let me know. This is definitely a much different experience than I imagined it would be.

Dude I'm in #40! Hey do you have any peanut butter? I'll trade you chocolate.

[TonyOlsen]

TonyOlsen

It appears you live in my families neighborhood of Keokuk. Ever hear of the McCrary's?

Nope... can't say I have...

Tony O, Then you must be inactive.

Nope... there's no one with that last name in our little branch.

[TonyOlsen]

Hey everyone... I haven't been on the forum much lately because the availability of internet out here (tent city 42c) is very unreliable. Did anyone else get called to tent city #42 or nearby? Maybe we could setup a weekly gathering near the rocky terrace just west of the pond. Let me know. This is definitely a much different experience than I imagined it would be.

Dude I'm in #40! Hey do you have any peanut butter? I'll trade you chocolate.

(Note: I laughed because it was funny... I'm not claiming that such a thing would ever be impossible. My best-friend's sister and her daughter were caught in Katrina, and the above was not unusual for them in the weeks that followed...)

[drjme]

Has anyone thought that it could be possible that the people called out to the tent cities are the tares to be cleansed? and all the wheat were still living in their homes?

[creator]

Dude I'm in #40! Hey do you have any peanut butter? I'll trade you chocolate.

Cool, you're in #40! That's just over the hill and past the creek from my camp. Not sure I want chocolate, but I do have some freshly ground peanut butter, I'll stop by your tent and see if you've got anything else to trade for my peanut butter.

You gotta check out the "technology tent" they've got me working at here in #42! Not only do we have internet connectivity (although flaky)... we've setup our own underground network that we call "undernet", we're going to hopefully help get the same system setup in all the other tent cities and expand elsewhere to prepare for when the governments limit on free speech on the www becomes to strict. This will enable us to easily communicate and network with others. (The technology tents are EMP proof as well )

[ready2prepare]

You gotta check out the "technology tent"
they've got me working at here in #42! Not only
do we have internet connectivity (although flaky)
... we've setup our own underground network
that we call "undernet"...

Hee Hee did you see the IT gal in 43?

She's selling under-ware!!!!!


Best Regards,
Sharon in Mississippi

[Mahonri]

deleted because I totally misunderstood what I was responding to.

[LukeAir2008]

Has anyone thought that it could be possible that the people called out to the tent cities are the tares to be cleansed? and all the wheat were still living in their homes?

How inspired? How come I didn't think of that?

Yes, the President of the Church invites you to flee to a tent city and then when you get there he and the Twelve are waiting with automatic rifles to gun you down.

Brilliant. That way you get rid of the handful of fools that actually obey the Prophet and the Mino's get to take over the church!

[will]

drjme wrote:
Has anyone thought that it could be possible that the people called out to the tent cities are the tares to be cleansed? and all the wheat were still living in their homes?


How inspired? How come I didn't think of that?

Yes, the President of the Church invites you to flee to a tent city and then when you get there he and the Twelve are waiting with automatic rifles to gun you down.

Brilliant. That way you get rid of the handful of fools that actually obey the Prophet and the Mino's get to take over the church!

I always thought that a call out would cause Members to persecute the saints, I never imagined that it would happen prior to such and event, Don't thoughts lead to action? I always believed that we were taught that. I wounder if the same happened to Lehi Prior to being call out?, You know humor about gunning down your brethren. I bet a bunch of Members did the same prior to killing many of the Saints and even the Prophet Joseph, Ya know, Joking about such a thing. good luck too ya.

[Mahonri]

Will
that already happened. The call out already occurred, most missed it. And yes, what you said did/is happening to those that accepted it. The call out is still happening for anyone that wants to participate.

[Mullenite]

SARA-13 TENT CITY DREAM (Northern Utah)
Here is a dream from a 13 year old girl as it was sent to me by her father, who was a Bishop in Northern
Utah at the time.
Dear R,
Since receiving your newsletter and info on tent cities, I had to know for myself if what you were sharing
was true. I am a bishop in , Utah and have been concerned for my ward members. As you, I have been
studying and preparing for these events back in the 80's. President Benson has been a hero to me. Getting
back to the story. I asked for a confirmation. On Sunday my middle daughter who is 13 years old, came
up and said "Dad, I had a dream last Thursday night and I want to talk to you about it". As she shared it,
my wife's and my jaw dropped. We had not shared with her your info regarding the tent cities. Wanted to
share this with you. Dream of Sara-I 3 (not her real name) as she wrote it down. February 22, 2002
In my dream, the world had gotten so wicked, people were hurting other people in the streets and there
was a feeling that everything was awful. I didn"t know what to do! Me and a boy friend (I don't have one
right now) went to Pres. Hinkley and asked him what we should do. He said that if we had at least a one
years supply of food we were to go to the forest. The name of "Camp Woodland" was part of the dream.
President Hinckley brought other people there. There were a lot of people. Pres. Hinckley brought Mom
& Dad there. They were in a motor home. Mom & Dad don't own a motor home right now. There were
others in tents. The motor homes, trailers & tents were full of food. I remember having to stop twice for
gas to get to the forest. There were some ward members there, but many didn't want to go. The motor
homes & tents were close together. There was a stream where we got our water. We had to use our water
purifier in order to drink the water. President Hinkley told us to build a temple up on the mountain.
[Roger Note: Of course I replied and asked some questions ....this is the response:]
You are welcome to share the dream with the appropriate deletions. In response to your questions:
....Does she remember how many people there were in the "city"? She just remembers lots of people, but
she did share something interesting. She remembers being divided into a "ward" and that there were a lot
of people in the new "ward" that she didn't know yet. There were only a few from our current ward that
chose to come .
....Does she remember what kind of weather? Sara-13 readily answered that it was in the spring time of
the year. Just coming out of the winter months into spring.
Sara-13 indicated that when she went to the house to get the provisions to leave, the house appeared to
be the same, with the same furnishings and pictures on the wall as it exists now in the house. She
describes a sense of well being and feeling secure in the camp. She indicates that there were several days
that it was cloudy, foggy with rain. During the day the men would leave camp and come back in the
evening near dinner time. She describes how they would have bags with them, not knowing what was in
them, and would place them in the river to keep them cool. During the day the women and girls would be
busy preparing meals, grinding wheat, and making many loaves of bread. The young boys would be
responsible for fetching the water from the stream for use. Sara-13 describes the clothing as people
wearing mostly sweatshirt type jackets during the day. At night she remembers seeing lots of camp fires
with some lanterns. She describes how at night we would be together as families reading the scriptures
by candle light. There was not a lot of interaction with other families at night. Mostly family. I hope this
helps. Your efforts have helped to focus our family on what is essential. If there is any thing else, please
do not hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, .

SISTER "SMITHS" DREAM (Northwest U.S.)
This dream is from a sister (we will call her Sister Smith) who lives in the North West area of North
America. She has had this dream twice, once (briefly) 11 years ago and again about 4 years ago. (As of
2005) She sent me Part 1. I then asked her several questions probing for more details and she sent me
part 2. A couple of years ago she wrote me and indicated that a new ferry boat she saw in her dream ...has
arrived and is in operation.
In my dream I was in sacrament meeting. During the announcements before the sacrament the bishop said
after the sacrament was passed everyone who had their food storage needed to go to the relief society
room. Once sacrament was over everyone just sat there, but I had a great feeling of anticipation. The
bishop again stood up and repeated the invitation. At least half of my ward has their food storage ...we
aren't a big ward ..about 120. When we went to the relief society room a letter was read from the first
presidency of the church. It said that the time had come for us to leave everything. It spoke about the
parable of the ten virgins and said that the time was over for preparation and that we needed to take care
of ourselves and not to try to share with the others in the ward who had not prepared at the expense of
ourselves. Everyone kind of sat there in a shocked silence.
There was a truck at the church that evening to take our food storage and it took quite a few trips to bring
our food storage they kept an inventory of everything that was loaded and it had to be labeled with our
name. Not everyone who had their food storage left. All the truck would take was our food storage.
We (my family) spent the evening loading our car and getting everything packed. The next morning we
met at the church and we left before dawn. The bishop had said that if we weren't there by the specified
time it would leave without us so we were there a couple hours early. The letter had also stated to be wise
in what we took in our cars and to take the things that would be beneficial to our survival. We drove and
filled up with gas on the way. Everything seemed normal and we moved freely. We did not stop for
anything other than gas. There was someone there who led us to wherever it is we went. When we arrived
we were given back our food storage. Everything was very organized and there was no panic, however
it was a quick trip. In my dream it was nice weather...1ike spring early summer.
pART II (Some details in answer to questions I asked)
In my dream we did go to a place full of tents ..J felt, but do not know that it was near the Rocky
mountains. It was near mountains ...J live in the midst of mountains but it was not here. We drove for
quite a while ...probably through the night at least. We stopped repeatedly to get gas ...but our tanks also
lasted longer than usual. I did not notice the prices but we, my husband and I, used our debit cards and I
don't remember it ever being an issue that we could not afford it and we are not rich ....we are in the
process of getting out of debt so we do not have very much in savings.
There were at least twenty vehicles in our caravan. I felt that we had met up with others along the way
and had joined for the trip, whether they were from our stake or not I really am not sure ...upon reflection
of this dream I have thought that they were but really don't know. Yes some had RV's and campers but
not many.
My husband is 25 I'm almost 23 and our children are under 4 years of age ...very young.
I felt like in order to go you had to have a years supply of food. Just to hear the letter in my dream you
were asked to have a years supply. Also when you dropped off the food at the church there was a truck
like a small covenant transport and they marked everything you turned in and I remember someone did
not have enough but just wanted to go and they said sorry but you have to have one full year ...there were
those who had more than one year supply and made up the difference for this family. I do not remember
anyone checking any temple recommends or anything like that I do not even think that it was a
requirement to necessarily be LDS as I remember wishing that my friends had a years supply of food so
that I could bring them. The truck was very very organized they marked down everything you brought and
it needed to be labeled with your name then after we had driven and had arrived at the camp the truck was
already waiting and they redistributed the food and you signed for your food I think there might have even
been id's required to get your food back. One of the strongest impressions that I had was although things
were very hurried it was incredibly organized and prepared.
To tell you how I felt while we were driving ...it felt like a road trip. The reason we left is because the
prophet said to. There was not any reason given to leave and things were not that bad. People still had
work there was really no reason to leave except that you wanted to take a leap of faith. Travel was still
free. There were still cars on the road and before we left we were given instructions on signals to give
if we needed to stop. Some also had two way radio's to communicate with other vehicles. When we
stopped to get gas we filled up the pumps at one station and then cars that couldn't fit went to other stations
then we met back up out of town where we waited alongside the rode until everyone got back together.
We were not allowed any stops other than to get gas although I remember getting food from the gas
station. I remember that we weren't allowed to stop because there was a sportsman's warehouse along the
way that we would have liked to stop at to get some good camping gear.
I remember that our car was packed as the church truck only took food storage items not tents sleeping
gear etc ...I am still not sure whether they took hand grinders and stoves. I remember putting my children
in layers and they got too hot in the car and I had to take off some Their car seats were stuffed in around\
them I didn't even leave myself much leg room ..
We brought a tent, sleeping bags, camping gear, guns, knives, an ax but not very many personal items. We
recently moved here from and we have some really warm gear. I remember asking if
anyone wore my size shoes because I have an extra pair of warm boots. We also brought rain gear. Not
everyone who had their food storage came ...some tried to talk others out of going ...when we were making
the trips to the church with our food there were some people there just to see who was actually going to
go. The people that went though I felt were the most willing to do whatever the Lord asked for whatever
reason.
When we arrived at the camp it was large. We were assigned an area and we stayed with our ward! stake.
When we got our food storage back. ..it took up a lot of space and we, my husband and I, were glad we had
tarps to cover it.. ..I actually might even buy a second tent..still thinking on that. There was nothing at the
camp though ...I remember in my dream that a little down the road after we had settled our own families
the men cut down trees and made a shelter for us to have meetings in, church and recreational. I felt that
the people I was with became my family and was very grateful for my ward.
Something that I just remembered as I was writing this ...people had laptops not many but there were some
laptops there in the beginning at least. I remember though that we did not have contact with our families
who are all in Idaho. When we spoke with them on the phone that Sunday ..that is when we usually talk
to our families ..We were brief because we were so busy but I felt like it was goodbye for a time ...
especially my husband's family as his parents are very active but his brother and sisters are not and do not
have food storage nor would they probably leave.
In the tent city my husband was a cop. He is now a cop and he continued to do that as well as take his turn
standing guard although the tent city was very large. We didn't even know half the people there because
we never traveled to the other side of the tent city. I also felt though that there was some hunting at least
in the beginning as my husband brought in a deer that we shared with our ward. It was not the law of
consecration although there was a lot of sharing back and forth and potlucks our ward is huge on potlucks.
Not everyone had equal food storage ...some only had wheat others had lots of canned goods and sweets
and lots of food that we eat today. Some knew how to use their food storage and others had bought it but
/ never touched it or even cooked very much ...not everyone had water purification and some spent a lot of
time boiling water. We each had our fire/cooking area in front of our tent except for the campers.
There was water nearby ...probably a stream or a small river. It did not run through the camp or alongside
it. I believe it was pretty close by but we had to fetch it every day. I know that you had to plan your
water...for your water treatment whatever kind it was ...the water did need to be treated. I know our water
was in our water containers that we continually refilled ...they are 6-7 gallon water containers that we got
in the camping section ofW almart. We were in the middle oftrees, I think evergreens, but I am not a tree
buff so I could not tell you the species of tree but the were probably pine. There were lots oftrees ...it was
kind oflike most campgrounds I have been too I am not sure what kind of trees they have there ..Christmas
trees.
We were organized into new wards shortly after arriving The wards were divided by boundaries and when
we arrived we were assigned our living space ..we did stay with our original ward, those of us who came
with an original ward ...some wards I don't believe had many people come from them so you stayed with
your ward/stake but you were organized into a new one almost immediately.
Also in my dream travel was unrestricted between states. I did feel that we went through a few states ...if
a bunch of people were traveling with their cars loaded up during a time of martial law it would be very
difficult to pass through towns etc. undetected. Also in my dream it was not a situation where we were
desperate and people were in great need and were so thrilled that the prophet was finally making a way
for the saints to get out and anything would be better that the way we were living ..it was quite the opposite
most people were puzzled as to why we were called out ..of course everyone remembered Sept 11 and
when a prophet speaks for many that is enough. This is another reason that I think this would be soon.
When I had this dream we did not have any food storage ...we just moved here one month ago and I doubt
I had food for a week much less a year. We have bought and ordered our food storage. We have also
purchased a tent...a nice one that will withstand rain snow wind etc. because in our dream we brought a
tent and we did not own a tent. We also purchased extreme weather sleeping bags. We were very blessed
in finding these for much less than retail for new ...if you need this stuff I can give you the website. I
remember that the letter in my dream said to be wise in what we took..it also said that the men needed to
have a white shirt and tie and the women a skirt or dress. The bishop was very surprised at the letter and
some who heard it felt that the prophet did not have the authority to ask this of us.
We spent at least a year there ...!do not recall anyone joining at a later date however people kept coming
initially for a little while, probably a couple weeks at most. When we got there some people did plant
seeds to try to supplement their food storage.
Also, there were people who were not prepared for the winter as we left in the spring/ early summer and
they were not concerned about that at the time ...these people had a very hard time with the elements
especially the children. My family was especially careful to prepare for the winter more so than preparing
for a summer. It was essential to have warm clothing, good sleeping bags, we have an all season tent, good
gloves, mittens, scarves etc. especially for the children. There were fires to keep warm by but it was very
cold and windy and hard to keep warm for those who had only dressed for summer as there was no place
to get any supplies and most people brought enough to take care of their families but not a lot extra
because it just would not fit in their vehicles.
Also, not everyone who went to the tent cities stayed there ...things got hard and there were some who left
to go back to the way things were ...they wanted their homes, clothes, and their things. If you did not obey
the rules ofthe camp ...seriously breaking rules you were kicked out ofthe camp. In my dream there were
some people that had their food storage and went but were not good people and tried stealing and even
some abuse and they were kicked out ofthe camp but it was not very wide spread. I felt like the camp was
an initial sifting of the church but there was even more to follow while in the cities because it was a place
to prepare a people to meet the Savior at His coming and there is not now a people prepared for that. I felt
it was a time to truly grow spiritually and to prepare ourselves for Him.
There were activities in the camp. We had firesides and church meetings. People continued to educate their
children. There was music and choirs and activities but everything had the purpose of edification and
helping us to become more like Christ. This was also a time for people to learn to be productive and there
was a lot of helping others. There were births and deaths. Life went on and things were difficult with the
elements and food and the outside world but we were set apart and we learned to be on a higher plane
where earthly things did not matter we learned to truly love one another and serve each other, we bore one
another's burdens and helped others ...People learned to care more about others than they did about
themselves and because everyone grew together everyone was taken care of and blessed.
That is the way life was in the camp in my dream. It was difficult living in a way that we are
unaccustomed but we were blessed in the way that we learned to live spiritually and the temporal things
all worked out.
Sister "Smith"

[ready2prepare]

Will that already happened. The call out already
occurred, most missed it. And yes, what you said
did/is happening to those that accepted it. The
call out is still happening for anyone that wants to
participate.

Yes, we have been/are being called out of Babylon.

Is that the "call out" you are referring to?

Best Regards,
Sharon in Mississippi

[drjme]

Has anyone thought that it could be possible that the people called out to the tent cities are the tares to be cleansed? and all the wheat were still living in their homes?

How inspired? How come I didn't think of that?

Yes, the President of the Church invites you to flee to a tent city and then when you get there he and the Twelve are waiting with automatic rifles to gun you down.

Brilliant. That way you get rid of the handful of fools that actually obey the Prophet and the Mino's get to take over the church!

hhmmmm. may be a smiley face would have clarified my intention with this post. But let's say the prophet made the call and the twelve said, "we're not going" or vice versa. Who would you go with?

[LukeAir2008]

Has anyone thought that it could be possible that the people called out to the tent cities are the tares to be cleansed? and all the wheat were still living in their homes?

How inspired? How come I didn't think of that?

Yes, the President of the Church invites you to flee to a tent city and then when you get there he and the Twelve are waiting with automatic rifles to gun you down.

Brilliant. That way you get rid of the handful of fools that actually obey the Prophet and the Mino's get to take over the church!

hhmmmm. may be a smiley face would have clarified my intention with this post. But let's say the prophet made the call and the twelve said, "we're not going" or vice versa. Who would you go with?

I should have realized you could not have been serious!

It depends on the situation. Joseph Smith said always go with the majority of the Twelve. I would go with the President of the Church who is the senior Apostle and the only man authorized to receive revelation for the whole church - unless the Twelve had a darned good excuse why I shouldn't follow him.

Its a difficult one. You would need inspiration yourself and to fully understand the whys and wherefores. We've had Presidents who were too old and senile to make decisions and the church was effectively run in their stead by their counsellors. Im thinking of the last days of Pres. Benson for example.

[LDSguy]

SARA-13 TENT CITY DREAM (Northern Utah)
Here is a dream from a 13 year old girl as it was sent to me by her father, who was a Bishop in Northern
Utah at the time.
Dear R,
Since receiving your newsletter and info on tent cities, I had to know for myself if what you were sharing
was true. I am a bishop in , Utah and have been concerned for my ward members. As you, I have been
studying and preparing for these events back in the 80's. President Benson has been a hero to me. Getting
back to the story. I asked for a confirmation. On Sunday my middle daughter who is 13 years old, came
up and said "Dad, I had a dream last Thursday night and I want to talk to you about it". As she shared it,
my wife's and my jaw dropped. We had not shared with her your info regarding the tent cities. Wanted to
share this with you. Dream of Sara-I 3 (not her real name) as she wrote it down. February 22, 2002
In my dream, the world had gotten so wicked, people were hurting other people in the streets and there
was a feeling that everything was awful. I didn"t know what to do! Me and a boy friend (I don't have one
right now) went to Pres. Hinkley and asked him what we should do. He said that if we had at least a one
years supply of food we were to go to the forest. The name of "Camp Woodland" was part of the dream.
President Hinckley brought other people there. There were a lot of people. Pres. Hinckley brought Mom
& Dad there. They were in a motor home. Mom & Dad don't own a motor home right now. There were
others in tents. The motor homes, trailers & tents were full of food. I remember having to stop twice for
gas to get to the forest. There were some ward members there, but many didn't want to go. The motor
homes & tents were close together. There was a stream where we got our water. We had to use our water
purifier in order to drink the water. President Hinkley told us to build a temple up on the mountain.
[Roger Note: Of course I replied and asked some questions ....this is the response:]
You are welcome to share the dream with the appropriate deletions. In response to your questions:
....Does she remember how many people there were in the "city"? She just remembers lots of people, but
she did share something interesting. She remembers being divided into a "ward" and that there were a lot
of people in the new "ward" that she didn't know yet. There were only a few from our current ward that
chose to come .
....Does she remember what kind of weather? Sara-13 readily answered that it was in the spring time of
the year. Just coming out of the winter months into spring.
Sara-13 indicated that when she went to the house to get the provisions to leave, the house appeared to
be the same, with the same furnishings and pictures on the wall as it exists now in the house. She
describes a sense of well being and feeling secure in the camp. She indicates that there were several days
that it was cloudy, foggy with rain. During the day the men would leave camp and come back in the
evening near dinner time. She describes how they would have bags with them, not knowing what was in
them, and would place them in the river to keep them cool. During the day the women and girls would be
busy preparing meals, grinding wheat, and making many loaves of bread. The young boys would be
responsible for fetching the water from the stream for use. Sara-13 describes the clothing as people
wearing mostly sweatshirt type jackets during the day. At night she remembers seeing lots of camp fires
with some lanterns. She describes how at night we would be together as families reading the scriptures
by candle light. There was not a lot of interaction with other families at night. Mostly family. I hope this
helps. Your efforts have helped to focus our family on what is essential. If there is any thing else, please
do not hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, .

SISTER "SMITHS" DREAM (Northwest U.S.)
This dream is from a sister (we will call her Sister Smith) who lives in the North West area of North
America. She has had this dream twice, once (briefly) 11 years ago and again about 4 years ago. (As of
2005) She sent me Part 1. I then asked her several questions probing for more details and she sent me
part 2. A couple of years ago she wrote me and indicated that a new ferry boat she saw in her dream ...has
arrived and is in operation.
In my dream I was in sacrament meeting. During the announcements before the sacrament the bishop said
after the sacrament was passed everyone who had their food storage needed to go to the relief society
room. Once sacrament was over everyone just sat there, but I had a great feeling of anticipation. The
bishop again stood up and repeated the invitation. At least half of my ward has their food storage ...we
aren't a big ward ..about 120. When we went to the relief society room a letter was read from the first
presidency of the church. It said that the time had come for us to leave everything. It spoke about the
parable of the ten virgins and said that the time was over for preparation and that we needed to take care
of ourselves and not to try to share with the others in the ward who had not prepared at the expense of
ourselves. Everyone kind of sat there in a shocked silence.
There was a truck at the church that evening to take our food storage and it took quite a few trips to bring
our food storage they kept an inventory of everything that was loaded and it had to be labeled with our
name. Not everyone who had their food storage left. All the truck would take was our food storage.
We (my family) spent the evening loading our car and getting everything packed. The next morning we
met at the church and we left before dawn. The bishop had said that if we weren't there by the specified
time it would leave without us so we were there a couple hours early. The letter had also stated to be wise
in what we took in our cars and to take the things that would be beneficial to our survival. We drove and
filled up with gas on the way. Everything seemed normal and we moved freely. We did not stop for
anything other than gas. There was someone there who led us to wherever it is we went. When we arrived
we were given back our food storage. Everything was very organized and there was no panic, however
it was a quick trip. In my dream it was nice weather...1ike spring early summer.
pART II (Some details in answer to questions I asked)
In my dream we did go to a place full of tents ..J felt, but do not know that it was near the Rocky
mountains. It was near mountains ...J live in the midst of mountains but it was not here. We drove for
quite a while ...probably through the night at least. We stopped repeatedly to get gas ...but our tanks also
lasted longer than usual. I did not notice the prices but we, my husband and I, used our debit cards and I
don't remember it ever being an issue that we could not afford it and we are not rich ....we are in the
process of getting out of debt so we do not have very much in savings.
There were at least twenty vehicles in our caravan. I felt that we had met up with others along the way
and had joined for the trip, whether they were from our stake or not I really am not sure ...upon reflection
of this dream I have thought that they were but really don't know. Yes some had RV's and campers but
not many.
My husband is 25 I'm almost 23 and our children are under 4 years of age ...very young.
I felt like in order to go you had to have a years supply of food. Just to hear the letter in my dream you
were asked to have a years supply. Also when you dropped off the food at the church there was a truck
like a small covenant transport and they marked everything you turned in and I remember someone did
not have enough but just wanted to go and they said sorry but you have to have one full year ...there were
those who had more than one year supply and made up the difference for this family. I do not remember
anyone checking any temple recommends or anything like that I do not even think that it was a
requirement to necessarily be LDS as I remember wishing that my friends had a years supply of food so
that I could bring them. The truck was very very organized they marked down everything you brought and
it needed to be labeled with your name then after we had driven and had arrived at the camp the truck was
already waiting and they redistributed the food and you signed for your food I think there might have even
been id's required to get your food back. One of the strongest impressions that I had was although things
were very hurried it was incredibly organized and prepared.
To tell you how I felt while we were driving ...it felt like a road trip. The reason we left is because the
prophet said to. There was not any reason given to leave and things were not that bad. People still had
work there was really no reason to leave except that you wanted to take a leap of faith. Travel was still
free. There were still cars on the road and before we left we were given instructions on signals to give
if we needed to stop. Some also had two way radio's to communicate with other vehicles. When we
stopped to get gas we filled up the pumps at one station and then cars that couldn't fit went to other stations
then we met back up out of town where we waited alongside the rode until everyone got back together.
We were not allowed any stops other than to get gas although I remember getting food from the gas
station. I remember that we weren't allowed to stop because there was a sportsman's warehouse along the
way that we would have liked to stop at to get some good camping gear.
I remember that our car was packed as the church truck only took food storage items not tents sleeping
gear etc ...I am still not sure whether they took hand grinders and stoves. I remember putting my children
in layers and they got too hot in the car and I had to take off some Their car seats were stuffed in around\
them I didn't even leave myself much leg room ..
We brought a tent, sleeping bags, camping gear, guns, knives, an ax but not very many personal items. We
recently moved here from and we have some really warm gear. I remember asking if
anyone wore my size shoes because I have an extra pair of warm boots. We also brought rain gear. Not
everyone who had their food storage came ...some tried to talk others out of going ...when we were making
the trips to the church with our food there were some people there just to see who was actually going to
go. The people that went though I felt were the most willing to do whatever the Lord asked for whatever
reason.
When we arrived at the camp it was large. We were assigned an area and we stayed with our ward! stake.
When we got our food storage back. ..it took up a lot of space and we, my husband and I, were glad we had
tarps to cover it.. ..I actually might even buy a second tent..still thinking on that. There was nothing at the
camp though ...I remember in my dream that a little down the road after we had settled our own families
the men cut down trees and made a shelter for us to have meetings in, church and recreational. I felt that
the people I was with became my family and was very grateful for my ward.
Something that I just remembered as I was writing this ...people had laptops not many but there were some
laptops there in the beginning at least. I remember though that we did not have contact with our families
who are all in Idaho. When we spoke with them on the phone that Sunday ..that is when we usually talk
to our families ..We were brief because we were so busy but I felt like it was goodbye for a time ...
especially my husband's family as his parents are very active but his brother and sisters are not and do not
have food storage nor would they probably leave.
In the tent city my husband was a cop. He is now a cop and he continued to do that as well as take his turn
standing guard although the tent city was very large. We didn't even know half the people there because
we never traveled to the other side of the tent city. I also felt though that there was some hunting at least
in the beginning as my husband brought in a deer that we shared with our ward. It was not the law of
consecration although there was a lot of sharing back and forth and potlucks our ward is huge on potlucks.
Not everyone had equal food storage ...some only had wheat others had lots of canned goods and sweets
and lots of food that we eat today. Some knew how to use their food storage and others had bought it but
/ never touched it or even cooked very much ...not everyone had water purification and some spent a lot of
time boiling water. We each had our fire/cooking area in front of our tent except for the campers.
There was water nearby ...probably a stream or a small river. It did not run through the camp or alongside
it. I believe it was pretty close by but we had to fetch it every day. I know that you had to plan your
water...for your water treatment whatever kind it was ...the water did need to be treated. I know our water
was in our water containers that we continually refilled ...they are 6-7 gallon water containers that we got
in the camping section ofW almart. We were in the middle oftrees, I think evergreens, but I am not a tree
buff so I could not tell you the species of tree but the were probably pine. There were lots oftrees ...it was
kind oflike most campgrounds I have been too I am not sure what kind of trees they have there ..Christmas
trees.
We were organized into new wards shortly after arriving The wards were divided by boundaries and when
we arrived we were assigned our living space ..we did stay with our original ward, those of us who came
with an original ward ...some wards I don't believe had many people come from them so you stayed with
your ward/stake but you were organized into a new one almost immediately.
Also in my dream travel was unrestricted between states. I did feel that we went through a few states ...if
a bunch of people were traveling with their cars loaded up during a time of martial law it would be very
difficult to pass through towns etc. undetected. Also in my dream it was not a situation where we were
desperate and people were in great need and were so thrilled that the prophet was finally making a way
for the saints to get out and anything would be better that the way we were living ..it was quite the opposite
most people were puzzled as to why we were called out ..of course everyone remembered Sept 11 and
when a prophet speaks for many that is enough. This is another reason that I think this would be soon.
When I had this dream we did not have any food storage ...we just moved here one month ago and I doubt
I had food for a week much less a year. We have bought and ordered our food storage. We have also
purchased a tent...a nice one that will withstand rain snow wind etc. because in our dream we brought a
tent and we did not own a tent. We also purchased extreme weather sleeping bags. We were very blessed
in finding these for much less than retail for new ...if you need this stuff I can give you the website. I
remember that the letter in my dream said to be wise in what we took..it also said that the men needed to
have a white shirt and tie and the women a skirt or dress. The bishop was very surprised at the letter and
some who heard it felt that the prophet did not have the authority to ask this of us.
We spent at least a year there ...!do not recall anyone joining at a later date however people kept coming
initially for a little while, probably a couple weeks at most. When we got there some people did plant
seeds to try to supplement their food storage.
Also, there were people who were not prepared for the winter as we left in the spring/ early summer and
they were not concerned about that at the time ...these people had a very hard time with the elements
especially the children. My family was especially careful to prepare for the winter more so than preparing
for a summer. It was essential to have warm clothing, good sleeping bags, we have an all season tent, good
gloves, mittens, scarves etc. especially for the children. There were fires to keep warm by but it was very
cold and windy and hard to keep warm for those who had only dressed for summer as there was no place
to get any supplies and most people brought enough to take care of their families but not a lot extra
because it just would not fit in their vehicles.
Also, not everyone who went to the tent cities stayed there ...things got hard and there were some who left
to go back to the way things were ...they wanted their homes, clothes, and their things. If you did not obey
the rules ofthe camp ...seriously breaking rules you were kicked out ofthe camp. In my dream there were
some people that had their food storage and went but were not good people and tried stealing and even
some abuse and they were kicked out ofthe camp but it was not very wide spread. I felt like the camp was
an initial sifting of the church but there was even more to follow while in the cities because it was a place
to prepare a people to meet the Savior at His coming and there is not now a people prepared for that. I felt
it was a time to truly grow spiritually and to prepare ourselves for Him.
There were activities in the camp. We had firesides and church meetings. People continued to educate their
children. There was music and choirs and activities but everything had the purpose of edification and
helping us to become more like Christ. This was also a time for people to learn to be productive and there
was a lot of helping others. There were births and deaths. Life went on and things were difficult with the
elements and food and the outside world but we were set apart and we learned to be on a higher plane
where earthly things did not matter we learned to truly love one another and serve each other, we bore one
another's burdens and helped others ...People learned to care more about others than they did about
themselves and because everyone grew together everyone was taken care of and blessed.
That is the way life was in the camp in my dream. It was difficult living in a way that we are
unaccustomed but we were blessed in the way that we learned to live spiritually and the temporal things
all worked out.
Sister "Smith"

mullenite. I'm resurrecting this post becuz you posted two excellent dreams. Have you heard of Gail's Dream?

in it she says:

After the third earthquake we will be led out by beings of light to cities of refuge or cities of light where we will remain while the rest of the calamities go out to the rest of the world. If you do not make it to one of these cities you will not survive. I saw that all those that are willing to believe in Jesus Christ and have faith in him and will accept him will be led out.

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[Squally]

SARA-13 TENT CITY DREAM (Northern Utah)
Here is a dream from a 13 year old girl as it was sent to me by her father, who was a Bishop in Northern
Utah at the time.
Dear R,
Since receiving your newsletter and info on tent cities, I had to know for myself if what you were sharing
was true. I am a bishop in , Utah and have been concerned for my ward members. As you, I have been
studying and preparing for these events back in the 80's. President Benson has been a hero to me. Getting
back to the story. I asked for a confirmation. On Sunday my middle daughter who is 13 years old, came
up and said "Dad, I had a dream last Thursday night and I want to talk to you about it". As she shared it,
my wife's and my jaw dropped. We had not shared with her your info regarding the tent cities. Wanted to
share this with you. Dream of Sara-I 3 (not her real name) as she wrote it down. February 22, 2002
In my dream, the world had gotten so wicked, people were hurting other people in the streets and there
was a feeling that everything was awful. I didn"t know what to do! Me and a boy friend (I don't have one
right now) went to Pres. Hinkley and asked him what we should do. He said that if we had at least a one
years supply of food we were to go to the forest. The name of "Camp Woodland" was part of the dream.
President Hinckley brought other people there. There were a lot of people. Pres. Hinckley brought Mom
& Dad there. They were in a motor home. Mom & Dad don't own a motor home right now. There were
others in tents. The motor homes, trailers & tents were full of food. I remember having to stop twice for
gas to get to the forest. There were some ward members there, but many didn't want to go. The motor
homes & tents were close together. There was a stream where we got our water. We had to use our water
purifier in order to drink the water. President Hinkley told us to build a temple up on the mountain.
[Roger Note: Of course I replied and asked some questions ....this is the response:]
You are welcome to share the dream with the appropriate deletions. In response to your questions:
....Does she remember how many people there were in the "city"? She just remembers lots of people, but
she did share something interesting. She remembers being divided into a "ward" and that there were a lot
of people in the new "ward" that she didn't know yet. There were only a few from our current ward that
chose to come .
....Does she remember what kind of weather? Sara-13 readily answered that it was in the spring time of
the year. Just coming out of the winter months into spring.
Sara-13 indicated that when she went to the house to get the provisions to leave, the house appeared to
be the same, with the same furnishings and pictures on the wall as it exists now in the house. She
describes a sense of well being and feeling secure in the camp. She indicates that there were several days
that it was cloudy, foggy with rain. During the day the men would leave camp and come back in the
evening near dinner time. She describes how they would have bags with them, not knowing what was in
them, and would place them in the river to keep them cool. During the day the women and girls would be
busy preparing meals, grinding wheat, and making many loaves of bread. The young boys would be
responsible for fetching the water from the stream for use. Sara-13 describes the clothing as people
wearing mostly sweatshirt type jackets during the day. At night she remembers seeing lots of camp fires
with some lanterns. She describes how at night we would be together as families reading the scriptures
by candle light. There was not a lot of interaction with other families at night. Mostly family. I hope this
helps. Your efforts have helped to focus our family on what is essential. If there is any thing else, please
do not hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, .

SISTER "SMITHS" DREAM (Northwest U.S.)
This dream is from a sister (we will call her Sister Smith) who lives in the North West area of North
America. She has had this dream twice, once (briefly) 11 years ago and again about 4 years ago. (As of
2005) She sent me Part 1. I then asked her several questions probing for more details and she sent me
part 2. A couple of years ago she wrote me and indicated that a new ferry boat she saw in her dream ...has
arrived and is in operation.
In my dream I was in sacrament meeting. During the announcements before the sacrament the bishop said
after the sacrament was passed everyone who had their food storage needed to go to the relief society
room. Once sacrament was over everyone just sat there, but I had a great feeling of anticipation. The
bishop again stood up and repeated the invitation. At least half of my ward has their food storage ...we
aren't a big ward ..about 120. When we went to the relief society room a letter was read from the first
presidency of the church. It said that the time had come for us to leave everything. It spoke about the
parable of the ten virgins and said that the time was over for preparation and that we needed to take care
of ourselves and not to try to share with the others in the ward who had not prepared at the expense of
ourselves. Everyone kind of sat there in a shocked silence.
There was a truck at the church that evening to take our food storage and it took quite a few trips to bring
our food storage they kept an inventory of everything that was loaded and it had to be labeled with our
name. Not everyone who had their food storage left. All the truck would take was our food storage.
We (my family) spent the evening loading our car and getting everything packed. The next morning we
met at the church and we left before dawn. The bishop had said that if we weren't there by the specified
time it would leave without us so we were there a couple hours early. The letter had also stated to be wise
in what we took in our cars and to take the things that would be beneficial to our survival. We drove and
filled up with gas on the way. Everything seemed normal and we moved freely. We did not stop for
anything other than gas. There was someone there who led us to wherever it is we went. When we arrived
we were given back our food storage. Everything was very organized and there was no panic, however
it was a quick trip. In my dream it was nice weather...1ike spring early summer.
pART II (Some details in answer to questions I asked)
In my dream we did go to a place full of tents ..J felt, but do not know that it was near the Rocky
mountains. It was near mountains ...J live in the midst of mountains but it was not here. We drove for
quite a while ...probably through the night at least. We stopped repeatedly to get gas ...but our tanks also
lasted longer than usual. I did not notice the prices but we, my husband and I, used our debit cards and I
don't remember it ever being an issue that we could not afford it and we are not rich ....we are in the
process of getting out of debt so we do not have very much in savings.
There were at least twenty vehicles in our caravan. I felt that we had met up with others along the way
and had joined for the trip, whether they were from our stake or not I really am not sure ...upon reflection
of this dream I have thought that they were but really don't know. Yes some had RV's and campers but
not many.
My husband is 25 I'm almost 23 and our children are under 4 years of age ...very young.
I felt like in order to go you had to have a years supply of food. Just to hear the letter in my dream you
were asked to have a years supply. Also when you dropped off the food at the church there was a truck
like a small covenant transport and they marked everything you turned in and I remember someone did
not have enough but just wanted to go and they said sorry but you have to have one full year ...there were
those who had more than one year supply and made up the difference for this family. I do not remember
anyone checking any temple recommends or anything like that I do not even think that it was a
requirement to necessarily be LDS as I remember wishing that my friends had a years supply of food so
that I could bring them. The truck was very very organized they marked down everything you brought and
it needed to be labeled with your name then after we had driven and had arrived at the camp the truck was
already waiting and they redistributed the food and you signed for your food I think there might have even
been id's required to get your food back. One of the strongest impressions that I had was although things
were very hurried it was incredibly organized and prepared.
To tell you how I felt while we were driving ...it felt like a road trip. The reason we left is because the
prophet said to. There was not any reason given to leave and things were not that bad. People still had
work there was really no reason to leave except that you wanted to take a leap of faith. Travel was still
free. There were still cars on the road and before we left we were given instructions on signals to give
if we needed to stop. Some also had two way radio's to communicate with other vehicles. When we
stopped to get gas we filled up the pumps at one station and then cars that couldn't fit went to other stations
then we met back up out of town where we waited alongside the rode until everyone got back together.
We were not allowed any stops other than to get gas although I remember getting food from the gas
station. I remember that we weren't allowed to stop because there was a sportsman's warehouse along the
way that we would have liked to stop at to get some good camping gear.
I remember that our car was packed as the church truck only took food storage items not tents sleeping
gear etc ...I am still not sure whether they took hand grinders and stoves. I remember putting my children
in layers and they got too hot in the car and I had to take off some Their car seats were stuffed in around\
them I didn't even leave myself much leg room ..
We brought a tent, sleeping bags, camping gear, guns, knives, an ax but not very many personal items. We
recently moved here from and we have some really warm gear. I remember asking if
anyone wore my size shoes because I have an extra pair of warm boots. We also brought rain gear. Not
everyone who had their food storage came ...some tried to talk others out of going ...when we were making
the trips to the church with our food there were some people there just to see who was actually going to
go. The people that went though I felt were the most willing to do whatever the Lord asked for whatever
reason.
When we arrived at the camp it was large. We were assigned an area and we stayed with our ward! stake.
When we got our food storage back. ..it took up a lot of space and we, my husband and I, were glad we had
tarps to cover it.. ..I actually might even buy a second tent..still thinking on that. There was nothing at the
camp though ...I remember in my dream that a little down the road after we had settled our own families
the men cut down trees and made a shelter for us to have meetings in, church and recreational. I felt that
the people I was with became my family and was very grateful for my ward.
Something that I just remembered as I was writing this ...people had laptops not many but there were some
laptops there in the beginning at least. I remember though that we did not have contact with our families
who are all in Idaho. When we spoke with them on the phone that Sunday ..that is when we usually talk
to our families ..We were brief because we were so busy but I felt like it was goodbye for a time ...
especially my husband's family as his parents are very active but his brother and sisters are not and do not
have food storage nor would they probably leave.
In the tent city my husband was a cop. He is now a cop and he continued to do that as well as take his turn
standing guard although the tent city was very large. We didn't even know half the people there because
we never traveled to the other side of the tent city. I also felt though that there was some hunting at least
in the beginning as my husband brought in a deer that we shared with our ward. It was not the law of
consecration although there was a lot of sharing back and forth and potlucks our ward is huge on potlucks.
Not everyone had equal food storage ...some only had wheat others had lots of canned goods and sweets
and lots of food that we eat today. Some knew how to use their food storage and others had bought it but
/ never touched it or even cooked very much ...not everyone had water purification and some spent a lot of
time boiling water. We each had our fire/cooking area in front of our tent except for the campers.
There was water nearby ...probably a stream or a small river. It did not run through the camp or alongside
it. I believe it was pretty close by but we had to fetch it every day. I know that you had to plan your
water...for your water treatment whatever kind it was ...the water did need to be treated. I know our water
was in our water containers that we continually refilled ...they are 6-7 gallon water containers that we got
in the camping section ofW almart. We were in the middle oftrees, I think evergreens, but I am not a tree
buff so I could not tell you the species of tree but the were probably pine. There were lots oftrees ...it was
kind oflike most campgrounds I have been too I am not sure what kind of trees they have there ..Christmas
trees.
We were organized into new wards shortly after arriving The wards were divided by boundaries and when
we arrived we were assigned our living space ..we did stay with our original ward, those of us who came
with an original ward ...some wards I don't believe had many people come from them so you stayed with
your ward/stake but you were organized into a new one almost immediately.
Also in my dream travel was unrestricted between states. I did feel that we went through a few states ...if
a bunch of people were traveling with their cars loaded up during a time of martial law it would be very
difficult to pass through towns etc. undetected. Also in my dream it was not a situation where we were
desperate and people were in great need and were so thrilled that the prophet was finally making a way
for the saints to get out and anything would be better that the way we were living ..it was quite the opposite
most people were puzzled as to why we were called out ..of course everyone remembered Sept 11 and
when a prophet speaks for many that is enough. This is another reason that I think this would be soon.
When I had this dream we did not have any food storage ...we just moved here one month ago and I doubt
I had food for a week much less a year. We have bought and ordered our food storage. We have also
purchased a tent...a nice one that will withstand rain snow wind etc. because in our dream we brought a
tent and we did not own a tent. We also purchased extreme weather sleeping bags. We were very blessed
in finding these for much less than retail for new ...if you need this stuff I can give you the website. I
remember that the letter in my dream said to be wise in what we took..it also said that the men needed to
have a white shirt and tie and the women a skirt or dress. The bishop was very surprised at the letter and
some who heard it felt that the prophet did not have the authority to ask this of us.
We spent at least a year there ...!do not recall anyone joining at a later date however people kept coming
initially for a little while, probably a couple weeks at most. When we got there some people did plant
seeds to try to supplement their food storage.
Also, there were people who were not prepared for the winter as we left in the spring/ early summer and
they were not concerned about that at the time ...these people had a very hard time with the elements
especially the children. My family was especially careful to prepare for the winter more so than preparing
for a summer. It was essential to have warm clothing, good sleeping bags, we have an all season tent, good
gloves, mittens, scarves etc. especially for the children. There were fires to keep warm by but it was very
cold and windy and hard to keep warm for those who had only dressed for summer as there was no place
to get any supplies and most people brought enough to take care of their families but not a lot extra
because it just would not fit in their vehicles.
Also, not everyone who went to the tent cities stayed there ...things got hard and there were some who left
to go back to the way things were ...they wanted their homes, clothes, and their things. If you did not obey
the rules ofthe camp ...seriously breaking rules you were kicked out ofthe camp. In my dream there were
some people that had their food storage and went but were not good people and tried stealing and even
some abuse and they were kicked out ofthe camp but it was not very wide spread. I felt like the camp was
an initial sifting of the church but there was even more to follow while in the cities because it was a place
to prepare a people to meet the Savior at His coming and there is not now a people prepared for that. I felt
it was a time to truly grow spiritually and to prepare ourselves for Him.
There were activities in the camp. We had firesides and church meetings. People continued to educate their
children. There was music and choirs and activities but everything had the purpose of edification and
helping us to become more like Christ. This was also a time for people to learn to be productive and there
was a lot of helping others. There were births and deaths. Life went on and things were difficult with the
elements and food and the outside world but we were set apart and we learned to be on a higher plane
where earthly things did not matter we learned to truly love one another and serve each other, we bore one
another's burdens and helped others ...People learned to care more about others than they did about
themselves and because everyone grew together everyone was taken care of and blessed.
That is the way life was in the camp in my dream. It was difficult living in a way that we are
unaccustomed but we were blessed in the way that we learned to live spiritually and the temporal things
all worked out.
Sister "Smith"

mullenite. I'm resurrecting this post becuz you posted two excellent dreams. Have you heard of Gail's Dream?

in it she says:

After the third earthquake we will be led out by beings of light to cities of refuge or cities of light where we will remain while the rest of the calamities go out to the rest of the world. If you do not make it to one of these cities you will not survive. I saw that all those that are willing to believe in Jesus Christ and have faith in him and will accept him will be led out.

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[gkearney]

The idea of the "call out" is when you think of it a Mormon version of the rapture where the faithful are taken away to safety while the sinful suffer some terrible fate.

[Kmart201]

Those dreams, if they are prophesy, scare me because we do not have a full year of food storage yet. We have been constantly working on our food storage but we just dont have the money to buy an entire years worth of food. If that is what is to happen, then I better devote more of my money toward food storage and preparations.

Honestly, both me and my dad have both felt very new and strong feelings that the time is very short to get our years supply.