What is going on?!?

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Hivetyrant36
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Again, shoving words in my mouth. I never, not once, said I had not considered this year's sign. I did actually. In March. I have no quarrel with the fact that the times are indeed a sign, or that signs are happening all around us and most people are ignoring them, as you ostensibly think I do.

I'm not name calling, (I never actually called you a name, like stupid or retard or idiot) I'm making observations in your pattern of word choices, and clearly, you are not calm. You hate that I am pointing things out and so you copy my style of observation and say that I am now the one losing my cool. Did you go to a trolling school? Have you ever participated in the chat on youtube? You seem like you are well versed in the art of spewing words to demonize your opponent. Somebody who is cool does not write a 3-page essay dissecting every little word a person said. They also don't witchhunt and post rude things on another topic about said person with no context. You are certainly calm...
I've added you to my foe list (I wish there was a block function), since, clearly, you have no intention of reading what I write without applying some false condition behind it or thinking I said something when I didn't. I write literally, and I mean what I say.

Words of advice
1 Learn to curb your pride, it has led many saints astray in today's world and in scripture
2 Instead of vehemently opposing and arguing with the spirit of contention, let things go. It's okay for people to not agree with you. It's not the end of the world. This post is me letting go.
3 Do not trust any prediction, spiritually or not, that is either popular or emotionally driven.
4 Emotions are not the spirit
5 Grow. Up. You should be far beyond petty attitudes, given the nature of this forum, but I guess the world is getting worse...

And before I never talk to you again, as you are acting contrary to the teaching of Christ, know that I don't give a crap about reputation or being included. None of what I have written was to get other people on this board to accept my story over yours or even to like me more. My motives are solving the puzzle of the return of the Son of Man, and that is THE ONLY reason I am on this forum. Any declared claims that I do this to discredit you or to give credit to me are simply false. And yes, I did include this because I know you would have tried to say these things. It's not hard to read people. All it takes is practice. If my words are hard to hear, then perhaps you need some self reflection. Lamen and Lemuel were certainly angry at Nephi's hard words to hear.
My words are directed at YOU, and not an audience. Keep that in mind before trying to attach libel to my words or my intentions.

You know, you remind me of my Uncle. He acts the same way you do about his "prophecy" too. He thinks aliens are on Earth ushering us into a higher vibrational era and giant space lights are keeping the Earth from vibrating apart. Ponder that. You may believe in a different story but you both do it for the same reason.

I would advise against lashing back at me as well. It will only hurt your credibility, and I won't see it. It would only serve to prove my point more.
Goodbye narcissist. (See, now I have called you a name)

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Alaris
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Check out the front page of drudgereport.com today (Sunday October 15)

Www.drudgereport.com
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Also from spaceweather.com
A minor G1-class geomagnetic storm is underway on Oct. 15th. This marks the 5th consecutive day that polar geomagnetic storms have been observed--a remarkable string considering that there are NO SUNSPOTS on the face of the sun. It just goes to show that blank suns can indeed produce stormy space weather.
The above is interesting when considering this video:

https://youtu.be/VQPePEssHrM

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Alaris
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Sun darkened in UK

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4695254/h ... nd-latest/

If I understand correctly, Ophelia is the cause and according to BPEarthwatch on Youtube, hurricanes never go that far north.

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oxbloodangel
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I read Anthony Larson, too. My parents follow him. When I realized the source material was Velikovsky, I set out to read that, too. It is good, but heavy stuff. The important part of Alaris' quote, and the part I am seeing Larsonites miss, is that there will be many signs, and then one grand sign. Nobody here is saying September 23 was the grand sign of the Son of Man, which all flesh shall see together.

It's silly to think Heavenly Father won't send signs in a language all of his children will understand. This is a wake up call to the world BEFORE Christ's return in glory. So to America as a whole, the total eclipse was a sign. To me personally, a red full moon over the State Capitol building the following weekend was a sign. To mainstream Christians and many faithful Latter-day Saints September 23rd's constellation and planetary alignment was a sign. And to the people of England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, the red sun and darkness at midday from the Sahara sands, Hurricane Ophelia, and Portugal fire was a sign. Each of these "apocalyptic" images caused a shift in people. "Awake, awake," the scriptures tell us. And the sky echoes, and the earth, too! We can't quibble about which signs are more valid; if it reached you, it was valid for you. The very small fraction of people who follow Anthony Larson, Immanuel Velikovsky, and Thunderbolts.info (Wal Thornhill and Dave Talbot) are waiting for a very specific recurrence of cosmic events, and that's okay. I believe with you that the Symbols of an Alien Sky will recur and that great sign will be unmissable!

That doesn't mean all lesser signs are useless or false. They are serving a purpose, too, just like Christian missionaries to Africa over the past few hundred years. It isn't the restored gospel, but it's the name of Christ. One thing stuck out to me in October General Conference, and it was the idea that God will use anyone who is willing, even if they aren't perfect, or their knowledge isn't perfect. Otherwise you and I have no hope of being tools in His capable hands.

Open your heart to the signs all around you and see the fruits of these angelic works: believing people, people waking up, people praying again, people refocusing their lives on what matters. This is what happens before the sifting. It's the way a loving God reaches as many of His children as will hear Him. To me, it's a beautiful testimony of that love.

Merriner
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I agree with alaris that the alignment is for a sign, and I agree with hivetyrant on the electric/plasma universe. I don't see how they contradict each other. The Lord gave the sun, moon, and stars for signs and for seasons. Joseph Smith said that the Book of Revelation is plain. This alignment has never happened. The alignment in 2008 was similar, but was missing some pieces looking back on it. The alignment on 9/23 was pretty spectacular. It was exact in every way. Just the fact that Jupiter entered the womb of virgo and moved to the bottom of the womb, then retrograded back and emerged from the womb nine months later when the three other planets lined up with the nine other stars as the crown of Virgo, and the moon getting just at the feet of virgo the same day with the sun at her back, is impossible to recreate. There was a video put out in 2008 called The Star of Bethlehem in which an ordinary man went on a quest to search for the Star that might have heralded the birth of the Savior. It was really good and I highly recomend watching it, but I thought the alignment he showed for the Rev. 12 fulfillment wasn't as good as the 2017 alignment. I think this was definitely a sign. I think it is a sign that the day of the Gentiles is closing and the day of Israel is being ushered in. It is a sign for the beginning of the judgements (perplexity) coming upon the earth to pave the way for Zion to arise and "put on her beautiful garments"/"put on her strength". Christ can't come until there are a people 100% ready to receive him. There has to be a place for him to dwell. He won't come until we build that city. I'd be happy to cite sources/prophetic utterances on that.

All this being said, I have also learned about the plasm/electric universe theory. It is the only theory that really explains everything we see in the universe. I think the thunderbolt project is spot on almost everything. I was especially convinced as soon as I was able to understand how it explained how the sun is so cool at its surface and a thousand times hotter at 1000,000 miles above the surface. Thats impossible with nuclear fusion. Sun spots?
How does the sun have cool spots if there is nuclear fusion taking place from the center of the planet out. I remember when they showed the images of the surface of mars, and I remember thinking that those images looked exactly as if somebody had dragged a gigantic arc welder across the surface of Mars. Can anybody say plasma pinch. It explains gravity, which is just electromagnetism on a huge scale. It also brings the scriptures to life, Gods power filling the immensity of space and that there is light/plasma everywhere. The fact that they have been able to recreate all the images recorded throughout eons of time in plasma experiments in laboratories. All that stuff I learned in college physics classes took on a whole new level and I had to throw away my old understanding of where those forces came from. I was almost like learning for myself that the church was true all over again, only it was about the world around me as Gods laboratory of creation. Awesome stuff!

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Merriner wrote: November 19th, 2017, 9:16 pm I agree with alaris that the alignment is for a sign, and I agree with hivetyrant on the electric/plasma universe. I don't see how they contradict each other. The Lord gave the sun, moon, and stars for signs and for seasons. Joseph Smith said that the Book of Revelation is plain. This alignment has never happened. The alignment in 2008 was similar, but was missing some pieces looking back on it. The alignment on 9/23 was pretty spectacular. It was exact in every way. Just the fact that Jupiter entered the womb of virgo and moved to the bottom of the womb, then retrograded back and emerged from the womb nine months later when the three other planets lined up with the nine other stars as the crown of Virgo, and the moon getting just at the feet of virgo the same day with the sun at her back, is impossible to recreate. There was a video put out in 2008 called The Star of Bethlehem in which an ordinary man went on a quest to search for the Star that might have heralded the birth of the Savior. It was really good and I highly recomend watching it, but I thought the alignment he showed for the Rev. 12 fulfillment wasn't as good as the 2017 alignment. I think this was definitely a sign. I think it is a sign that the day of the Gentiles is closing and the day of Israel is being ushered in. It is a sign for the beginning of the judgements (perplexity) coming upon the earth to pave the way for Zion to arise and "put on her beautiful garments"/"put on her strength". Christ can't come until there are a people 100% ready to receive him. There has to be a place for him to dwell. He won't come until we build that city. I'd be happy to cite sources/prophetic utterances on that.

All this being said, I have also learned about the plasm/electric universe theory. It is the only theory that really explains everything we see in the universe. I think the thunderbolt project is spot on almost everything. I was especially convinced as soon as I was able to understand how it explained how the sun is so cool at its surface and a thousand times hotter at 1000,000 miles above the surface. Thats impossible with nuclear fusion. Sun spots?
How does the sun have cool spots if there is nuclear fusion taking place from the center of the planet out. I remember when they showed the images of the surface of mars, and I remember thinking that those images looked exactly as if somebody had dragged a gigantic arc welder across the surface of Mars. Can anybody say plasma pinch. It explains gravity, which is just electromagnetism on a huge scale. It also brings the scriptures to life, Gods power filling the immensity of space and that there is light/plasma everywhere. The fact that they have been able to recreate all the images recorded throughout eons of time in plasma experiments in laboratories. All that stuff I learned in college physics classes took on a whole new level and I had to throw away my old understanding of where those forces came from. I was almost like learning for myself that the church was true all over again, only it was about the world around me as Gods laboratory of creation. Awesome stuff!
Yep electric universe is too simple of an explanation for it not to be true. Truth is easy to understand. Blackholes and dark matter are all made up things that are actually antichrist, because they point to mass ,or that which is physical, is what keeps the universe together and it alone is responsible for the worlds coming into existence. Christ on the other hand teaches that it is light and knowledge or that which is spiritual is what created the worlds. This is more in line with the electric universe theory. Hopefully brianj hasn't seen this post yet.

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Alaris
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Re: What is going on?!?

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GrandMasterB wrote: November 22nd, 2017, 1:38 pm
Merriner wrote: November 19th, 2017, 9:16 pm I agree with alaris that the alignment is for a sign, and I agree with hivetyrant on the electric/plasma universe. I don't see how they contradict each other. The Lord gave the sun, moon, and stars for signs and for seasons. Joseph Smith said that the Book of Revelation is plain. This alignment has never happened. The alignment in 2008 was similar, but was missing some pieces looking back on it. The alignment on 9/23 was pretty spectacular. It was exact in every way. Just the fact that Jupiter entered the womb of virgo and moved to the bottom of the womb, then retrograded back and emerged from the womb nine months later when the three other planets lined up with the nine other stars as the crown of Virgo, and the moon getting just at the feet of virgo the same day with the sun at her back, is impossible to recreate. There was a video put out in 2008 called The Star of Bethlehem in which an ordinary man went on a quest to search for the Star that might have heralded the birth of the Savior. It was really good and I highly recomend watching it, but I thought the alignment he showed for the Rev. 12 fulfillment wasn't as good as the 2017 alignment. I think this was definitely a sign. I think it is a sign that the day of the Gentiles is closing and the day of Israel is being ushered in. It is a sign for the beginning of the judgements (perplexity) coming upon the earth to pave the way for Zion to arise and "put on her beautiful garments"/"put on her strength". Christ can't come until there are a people 100% ready to receive him. There has to be a place for him to dwell. He won't come until we build that city. I'd be happy to cite sources/prophetic utterances on that.

All this being said, I have also learned about the plasm/electric universe theory. It is the only theory that really explains everything we see in the universe. I think the thunderbolt project is spot on almost everything. I was especially convinced as soon as I was able to understand how it explained how the sun is so cool at its surface and a thousand times hotter at 1000,000 miles above the surface. Thats impossible with nuclear fusion. Sun spots?
How does the sun have cool spots if there is nuclear fusion taking place from the center of the planet out. I remember when they showed the images of the surface of mars, and I remember thinking that those images looked exactly as if somebody had dragged a gigantic arc welder across the surface of Mars. Can anybody say plasma pinch. It explains gravity, which is just electromagnetism on a huge scale. It also brings the scriptures to life, Gods power filling the immensity of space and that there is light/plasma everywhere. The fact that they have been able to recreate all the images recorded throughout eons of time in plasma experiments in laboratories. All that stuff I learned in college physics classes took on a whole new level and I had to throw away my old understanding of where those forces came from. I was almost like learning for myself that the church was true all over again, only it was about the world around me as Gods laboratory of creation. Awesome stuff!
Yep electric universe is too simple of an explanation for it to not be true. Truth is easy to understand. Blackholes and dark matter are all made up things that are actually antichrist, because they point to mass ,or that which is physical, is what keeps the universe together and it alone is responsible for the worlds coming into existence. Christ on the other hand teaches that it is light and knowledge or that which is spiritual is what created the worlds. This is more in line with the electric universe theory. Hopefully brianj hasn't seen this post yet.
Never thought of "doctrines" that not only point to salvation by other means than Jesus Christ but also other explanations of creation and how the universe is held together as antichrist, but that's exactly what it is! Good show.

Dark Matter always seemed like a thinly veiled excuse to explain away why scientists don't know what they don't know.

roycelerwick
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Another thousand years of the same old crap...
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Now you've added mocking.
Fools mock, but they shall mourn. ~ The Lord Jesus Christ
I wonder if that applies to end time prophesies?
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Ever notice that it's not a "year's supply" any more--not waiting for that Russian "balloon" to go up?

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