Vision wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:24 am
h_p wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:06 am
Vision wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:32 am
h_p this court case would not even exist if Phillips had not forced his religious views into his business. It was his decision that started the dispute. When you acknowledge these facts how can you not see that Phillips brought this trouble on himself. Had he followed the Saviors words to turn the other cheek none of this would be happening. Yes it is Phillips business and he has the right to conduct business how he see's fit but he his not free of the consequences of his choices. The escalation of this case to where it stands today is nothing but consequences from the original decision.
No-one should be forced to divorce his religious views from his daily actions, including the way he conducts his business.
You cannot discriminate in housing laws, health care services, professional service industries, hiring employees, etc. Why is a retail business exempt from the same laws that exist already?
We may never agree on whether the government should be our nanny to make sure we don't discriminate, but H_P already beautifully, concisely gave you the answer here. The market takes care of itself. The government is a bloated, corrupt, inefficient monstrosity that certainly is not the answer to our discrimination "problems."
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the answer. This is the fundamental difference between the right and left worldviews imho. The left is so cynical they think everyone is evil and corrupt (except themselves of course, and google, and apple, and the government) and we are all racists in our subconscious minds, therefore we cannot trust ourselves. So let's have the marvelous, benevolent government steer us all (control us all) to harmony. Whose plan does that sound like? Jehovah's or Lucifer's?
The right believes we have individual rights, responsibilities, and accountability. We the people is who the government answers to, not the other way around. There's reason why democrats are some of the least charitable people on earth. They are charitable with other people's money. Conservatives believe charity comes from the individual, not the government. Accountability comes from the individual, not the government. The government is accountable to us to protect our rights not the other way around where the government grants us rights. These are fundamental worldview differences.
Do you have a testimony of the Book of Mormon? If so, then you should believe Moroni and Mormon who tell us secret combination will exist in our day. They do. Modern prophets, such as Ezra Taft Benson, have warned about them existing now in our government. It absolutely exists - corruption is everywhere. Judicial overreach is a symptom of this underlying problem, and this baker case is just one of the symptoms of gadiantonism who are pushing a control via the gay agenda. So, do you, Vision, believe our government is in a condition where it can be relied upon to make and enforce laws that protect our liberties rather than infringe upon them?
Here's a great video demonstrating now corruption that gets zero coverage by a complicit, corrupt mainstream media: