Founders faught conspiracy

For discussion of liberty, freedom, government and politics.
Post Reply
User avatar
Ben McClintock
captain of 100
Posts: 947
Contact:

Founders faught conspiracy

Post by Ben McClintock »

john jay conspiracy meme with stamp.jpg
john jay conspiracy meme with stamp.jpg (852.82 KiB) Viewed 530 times

User avatar
iWriteStuff
blithering blabbermouth
Posts: 5523
Location: Sinope
Contact:

Re: Founders faught conspiracy

Post by iWriteStuff »

Ben McClintock wrote: October 26th, 2017, 2:50 pm john jay conspiracy meme with stamp.jpg
Which is ironic, if you think about it, since the Founding Fathers' whole movement against England was kind of a conspiracy. An open one, sure, but a conspiracy nonetheless.

I also kinda grin at calling them "patriots". The definition of a patriot is someone who is loyal to their homeland. They were anything but! They wanted independence from their homeland, and fought hard to gain it.

User avatar
David13
Level 34 Illuminated
Posts: 7081
Location: Utah

Re: Founders faught conspiracy

Post by David13 »

iWriteStuff wrote: October 27th, 2017, 8:01 am
Ben McClintock wrote: October 26th, 2017, 2:50 pm john jay conspiracy meme with stamp.jpg
Which is ironic, if you think about it, since the Founding Fathers' whole movement against England was kind of a conspiracy. An open one, sure, but a conspiracy nonetheless.

I also kinda grin at calling them "patriots". The definition of a patriot is someone who is loyal to their homeland. They were anything but! They wanted independence from their homeland, and fought hard to gain it.
Of course the revolution was a conspiracy, and a very secret conspiracy for quite some time until it was "publicly announced". The consequences would be rather severe if the conspiracy was discovered. And after it became an open fact, the consequences were still severe, until the hostilities ended.

Some of the conspirators were born here in the colonies, but not all of them, in fact less than half of the major conspirators, if I recall correctly. Their loyalty was really to their colony and their economic interest there, rather than to the 'homeland' where they may have come from.

The great motivation was their financial interest. The idea of the colonies was to exploit the colonies and bring wealth to the 'homeland' which was why the idea ran contrary to the concept of independence.
dc

gardener4life
captain of 1,000
Posts: 1690

Re: Founders faught conspiracy

Post by gardener4life »

You should listen to this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91e8f2xKt0g

Post Reply