Melissa wrote:Answer this question:
Why have apostles stated, "do you have the faith to not be healed"?
Why have faith to not be healed? No sense asking for a blessing with this attitude. A better question is: "do you have the faith to be healed?" Makes more sense, does it not?
Melissa wrote:You stated that a depressed individual is in sin and needs to repent. The state of depression has many factors, more than stating one needs to have some humility. Have you ever been depressed?
Funny you'd ask. Yes, I have been depressed, sometimes severely, and have been for nearly fifty years. I've taken meds for it for about twenty five years, so it don't slam me to the ground. To summarize, during the time I was not on meds I would go home from work, have dinner and later sit on the floor in front of the television, rest my back against the couch, and stay there all night with the TV still on, then shower and go back to work. I did this routine for weeks on end. Is that depressed enough for you?
All the while my grievous sins kept stacking up and taunting me. I got to where I loathed myself. I became angry all the time, hard to live with and was a miserable, disgusting human being. My sins still kept stacking up against me. It was so bad that I wanted to die and be banished to a place where I would never, ever have to face God. I didn't trust Bishops around where I lived so I felt stuck between a rock and a hard place.
One day I got on my knees and begged God to help me, I felt like my life should come to an end. Then came the news that I was being transferred out of state by my employer. I went through a divorce and lost my family...and drove alone to my next home.
I drank some, swore like a banshee and said to heck with life. My sins, many, many kept stacking up against me.
Then one day as I was driving around I saw a chapel near where I lived. I researched and got the phone number for the bishop there. My intention was to go in and ask for my name to be removed from the records of the church, I had no hope of redemption. My sins tormented my whole inside.
Long story short, this is where I went through a horrific and difficult repentance process because the bishop saw right through me and with sternness and care he helped me to rid myself of all my sins. Does anyone know how difficult it is to confess terrible sins going back decades to someone you don't even know? I came very close to excommunication, but due to the fact I went and confessed on my own, the Bishop helped me over a period of a long time until I was able to receive a temple recommend. So I went from near suicide to complete peace and joy in my bosom. The account of Alma in chap 36, vs 9-23
, describes my feelings and emotions almost to the tee. My sins were now all gone and I yearned to see Christ. I'm not perfect yet I repent and hope for a better world as told us in scripture. Ether 12:4
Melissa wrote: Have you ever experienced PTSD?
Yes, ever since Vietnam, 68,69 time frame. On meds for that too. PTSD is not fun and doesn't do any good for depression.
Melissa wrote:So a woman abused as a child grows up to have some issues needs to repent for something she didn't do?
Never said anything about someone having been abused being guilty of sin. You are putting words in my mouth and saying a orated them. Not cool! The sin is on the guilty party not the recipient of evil acts. Let's keep quotes in their proper context, shall we?
Melissa wrote:I feel that you lend to the scriptures as a pedestal for your own benefit. I'm glad you have a strict adherence to the gospel, that is a good thing. But do you know how truly compassionate the Father is?
You can answer this question by what I have already said above. He helped a wretch like me and I am forever grateful.
Melissa wrote:Do you know that Love is a governing force in life and in the eternities? We must understand humans and we must understand the gospel and who Christ is.
Nothing wrong with this. :ymsigh: