WILL AMERICA SURVIVE?

[ktg]

WILL AMERICA SURVIVE?
By Paul Walter
February 29, 2012
News With Views

[Note: This article appeared as a full page ad in the Grants Pass "Daily Courier" newspaper on Saturday, January 28, 2012]

WHY I LOVE AMERICA

“I immigrated to the United States with my family when I was 15 years-old. I was in awe to find a country where you could be anything you wanted to be as long as you were honest, moral and hard-working. This wasn't possible in the communist country from which my parents and I had escaped. There, government control was from the cradle to the grave. They kept the people poor, and controlled, while the aristocrats and politicians (gov't.) were living high on the hog with big benefits and salaries. They policed our every move and restricted our God-given freedoms.


America was the light of the world and it gave hope to the oppressed.

“Now, there are forces at work destroying our nation, and our individualism for the sake of the world's collectivism. I'm not just talking about Obama; he is a minute player in the grand scheme of this fast approaching New World Order. Our very culture is being threatened; our way of life; our liberties; and the legacy that we are leaving our children, and theirs, is one of indentured servitude to a government that has wildly swung from being representative by design to being dictatorial in practice.

“For the past 20 years I have been accurately predicting and fighting against what is now right around the corner. Sadly, this year, 2012, could be the last for this great nation. However, I owe a lot to this country and I will stand by my beliefs and fight to save my beloved America.

“Why am I so seemingly fanatic about trying to save our country? It's simple... I know better than to let it travel down the path of socialism to communism, and if you had lived under the yoke of communism as I did, you wouldn't want it either.


WHAT'S COMING?

“Our country is teetering on a precipice about to fall completely away from the limited government upon which this country was founded, to being that of a truly communist country.

“1. Starvation of Biblical proportions through contrived food shortages.
“2. Under the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), anyone who bucks the New World Order mentality of the government can be considered an enemy combatant.
“3. Check points on the freeways to check your papers. We have already seen the start of this with the TSA check points - not just at airports but on buses, trains, and highways as well.
“4. Censorship of the news and internet.
“5. “Smart” meters will be placed on every home to control your utility consumption – including meters on wells. They have already begun installing “Smart” meters under the guise of “efficiency.” There is already a lot of information concerning these machines – not to mention lawsuits. Read Devvy Kidd’s column, “Update: My fight against the ‘smart’ meter.”
“6. The federal government will further control our foods, natural medicines and vitamins. They will dictate what we can and cannot eat, drink, smoke, say, and do. Several health-food store owners in California already face jail time for the “crime” of selling safe, healthy life-promoting, raw unpasteurized milk.
“7. Public schools will be used to indoctrinate your children into global citizenship as well as being used in the future as centers to reeducate the masses.
“8. Government will encourage the public to spy on and report their neighbors for any “suspicious” behavior.
“9. Those who have prepared for hard times will legally be considered hoarders. Recent legislation establishes guidelines for law enforcement to be sent in to confiscate their food.
“10. Class and race warfare will be pushed in order to gain further control over the population.

“The socialists in government are counting on the loyalty of the police and military to enforce these draconian and unconstitutional edicts. Stalin got the loyalty of his police and army. Hitler got it, too. A good example is Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad's police are following his orders killing their own citizens to keep their dictator that signs their paycheck in power. A dictator can not be a dictator by himself, he has to have loyal followers. Will the “new” America get their support?

“We hope these men and women who have sworn to protect us will see that by doing what is morally right, and standing with their fellow citizens, it will help ensure the future of our country.


HOW DID WE ARRIVE IN THIS MESS?

“For most local and state elections there is only a 35-40% voter turnout. The majority of the public doesn't even bother to vote, taking freedom for granted. Good people become bad citizens when they don't vote.

“Instead of doing research and selecting the best candidate most keep voting for who is the most charming, best looking and the smoothest talker, or who gets the most coverage by the biased mainstream media. We end up voting-in candidates who don’t know what it means to represent their constituents; instead they end up representing the special interests that paid for their media coverage!

“As we all saw on the news recently, 100k Russian people stood out in sub-zero weather demanding honest elections. Here in America, where people are free, people tolerate injustice and keep repeatedly voting-in the same scoundrels.

“Be it Republican or Democrat at the highest levels, it makes little difference because they no longer work for the good of the American people. Instead they've all sold out to Goldman-Sachs and the Military-Industrial-Pharmaceutical complex.


SOLUTIONS

“1. Demand that our representatives hold true to their sworn oath of office, and uphold the Constitution.
“2. Educate yourself on each candidate before voting for the most popular or best looking.
“3. Get out and vote.
“4. Hold all politicians accountable and get involved in public meetings.
“5. Go to the web site http://www.newswithviews.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and sign-up for the free e-mail alerts.

“This November’s election will go down in history as the most important our country has ever held and the hour is getting late. We only have a limited time to act, but I believe so much in this country and its people, that I know we can do it.

[Juliette]

Good post KTG. I love this country and it saddens me to see the decay! I hope we can be friends in spite of our difference of opion
politically. I always enjoy your posts!

[marc]

Yes, America will survive. There will never be kings here. And the elect shall be deceived. The wild olive branches that bring forth evil fruit will be hewn down and burned or cast away so as not to cumber the vineyard. But the good fruit will be preserved and at the end of the season the bad fruit cast away to its own place, and the entire vineyard will be burned with fire.

[EmmaLee]

D&C 87:6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations.

[Thomas]

D&C 87:6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations.

Good point Stella. We will have a king in the end. His name, Jesus Christ

[marc]

D&C 87:6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations.

Good point Stella. We will have a king in the end. His name, Jesus Christ

Agreed. King of kings. Lord of Lords. Until then, He shall not suffer any man to be our king in this land consecrated to liberty.

[icebiker]

[sbsion]

but, according to Isiah, he will allow the Russia and China to "humble us".....invasions is CERTAIN

[Jason]

Yes, America will survive. There will never be kings here. And the elect shall be deceived. The wild olive branches that bring forth evil fruit will be hewn down and burned or cast away so as not to cumber the vineyard. But the good fruit will be preserved and at the end of the season the bad fruit cast away to its own place, and the entire vineyard will be burned with fire.

Entire vineyard doesn't get burned until the very very end after the little season (Jacob Chapter 5 - Prophesy of Zenos)....

[gr8ideas]

+1 IBSON

[marc]

Yes, America will survive. There will never be kings here. And the elect shall be deceived. The wild olive branches that bring forth evil fruit will be hewn down and burned or cast away so as not to cumber the vineyard. But the good fruit will be preserved and at the end of the season the bad fruit cast away to its own place, and the entire vineyard will be burned with fire.

Entire vineyard doesn't get burned until the very very end after the little season (Jacob Chapter 5 - Prophesy of Zenos)....

We're in agreement. I definitely love this chapter and look forward to studying it more. I do love the part that alludes to the Nephites and Lamanites besides the entire house of Israel.

[Gideon]

The wicked who want to turn America into a police state never consider that God might want to oppose them:

15 Wherefore, for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations.
(2 Nephi 10)

But that is not all that He has promised to do:

8 And he had sworn in his wrath unto the brother of Jared, that whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them.
9 And now, we can behold the decrees of God concerning this land, that it is a land of promise; and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall serve God, or they shall be swept off when the fulness of his wrath shall come upon them. And the fulness of his wrath cometh upon them when they are ripened in iniquity.
10 For behold, this is a land which is choice above all other lands; wherefore he that doth possess it shall serve God or shall be swept off; for it is the everlasting decree of God. And it is not until the fulness of iniquity among the children of the land, that they are swept off.
11 And this cometh unto you, O ye Gentiles, that ye may know the decrees of God—that ye may repent, and not continue in your iniquities until the fulness come, that ye may not bring down the fulness of the wrath of God upon you as the inhabitants of the land have hitherto done.
(Ether 2)

When does this happen?

27 And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction even as he has hitherto visited this land.
(Mosiah 29)

What will the end result be?

66 And it shall be called the New Jerusalem, a land of peace, a city of refuge, a place of safety for the saints of the Most High God;
67 And the glory of the Lord shall be there, and the terror of the Lord also shall be there, insomuch that the wicked will not come unto it, and it shall be called Zion.
68 And it shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his neighbor must needs flee unto Zion for safety.
(D&C 45)

What has to happen for these verses from section 45 to come to pass? What has to change in our society for a city of Zion to be established and for people everywhere to have to choose between the sword and Zion?

[durangout]

but, according to Isiah, he will allow the Russia and China to "humble us".....invasions is CERTAIN

References please.

[Matthew.B]

America the nation will not survive. The window for repentance is almost closed.

Even if it did repent and turn to Christ, it would be given a new law and a new ruler- the Gospel of Christ. The Constitution would eventually be discarded as the Law of Moses was discarded in favor of something higher after the sacrifice of Christ.

It will either be destroyed or converted to a higher form of social contract- either way, the America we know has an expiration date that's fast approaching.

[Jason]

Yes, America will survive. There will never be kings here. And the elect shall be deceived. The wild olive branches that bring forth evil fruit will be hewn down and burned or cast away so as not to cumber the vineyard. But the good fruit will be preserved and at the end of the season the bad fruit cast away to its own place, and the entire vineyard will be burned with fire.

Entire vineyard doesn't get burned until the very very end after the little season (Jacob Chapter 5 - Prophesy of Zenos)....

We're in agreement. I definitely love this chapter and look forward to studying it more. I do love the part that alludes to the Nephites and Lamanites besides the entire house of Israel.

Its my favorite one in the book....and the longest...

[7cylon7]

Not in it's present form but we are told the American flag will survive as a beacon of freedom. The constitution will be supported and the loopholes in it now will be plugged up. But in the Kingdom of God with Jesus as our king, the constitution will be the law of the entire world with of course some deity made changes to ensure freedom and justice for all.

[DrJay]

So a few questions come to mind

Is the vineyard America or what?
Could America survive and yet the government topple?
What is meant by America surviving?

[paper face]

America will die. And the survivors will be glad when it does. Because it will mean that the King has returned to the earth and eradicated all hypocrisy.

Christ is not an American citizen, nor will he ever be. the US =/= Zion.

[Jason]

So a few questions come to mind

Is the vineyard America or what?
Could America survive and yet the government topple?
What is meant by America surviving?

As I understand it.....the vineyard is the earth....and America (North and South) is the choice spot of land cleared off of the Jaredites (Jacob 5:44). The natural tree is the house of Israel. The wild tree is the gentiles. Christ on the earth (5:15-16). The early Christian Church (5:17-18). The Lost Tribes - "other sheep" (5:19-20). Nephites/Lamanites and destruction prior to the arrival of the Savior (5:25-26). Apostasy of Christian Church (5:32-37). The dark ages and fall of the Nephites (5:39-42). Columbus and all of the moving affairs at the end of the dark ages plus plagues, wars, etc (5:52-59). Instructions and preparations for the Restoration which include Bible and Book of Mormon coming together (5:61-68). The Restoration of the Gospel (5:70)...Christ reigning personally on the earth - Zion (5:72). Everyone finally converted to the gospel (5:75). I estimate that a "long time" is roughly about 500 years. I could do a lot more here...but my notes are in my scriptures....which aren't with me.

And when the time cometh that evil fruit shall again come into my vineyard, then will I cause the good and the bad to be gathered; and the good will I preserve unto myself, and the bad will I cast away into its own place. And then cometh the season and the end; and my vineyard will I cause to be burned with fire.

http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/jacob/5?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Who is it that has corrupted my vineyard?
Is it not the loftiness (pride) of thy vineyard?


Doesn't pride create ignorance? Halt progression(a Bible a Bible we have a Bible - 2 Nephi 29:6)...and in fact retard progression (We have enough - 2 Nephi 28:29-31) Isn't knowledge, properly applied towards light and truth (intelligence), the way to progress (line upon line, precept upon precept)...from glory to glory???

Doctrine and Covenants 88:40, 93:29-40, 130:18-21,

[sbsion]

not as America