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I have a talk on loving your neighbour, family etc. What I'm wondering is in the scriptures it is prophesied that

Matt. 10: 21
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

It also talks about hearts growing cold.

While we have seen evidence of this already in everyday life. What if anything will or could happen that would cause something like this happening on a widespread scale. I am under the impression that this won't just be a general everday thing like it is now, but rather a significant change somewhere down the line.

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Things that could cause something like this happening on a widespread scale include:

1.) an attempt to return the US government to the principles of government of our original constitutional republic, and on a worldwide scale, introduction of these principles in other lands, as prophesied.

2.) breakdowns of food and fuel distribution and services such as el-power, water, sanitation, transportation, etc.

3.) elimination of middle class life and increase of abject poverty

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It may not be as "wide spread" or obvious as we might think. When GBH said the prophecy of the moon turning to blood had already been fulfilled I was caught off gaurd.

I mean sometimes when the moon is low it lookss blood red, but I don't know if that is what he meant or if it is some other reason.

My point is, we should be ever watchful and never think because not everyone recognizes it, doesn't mean it hasn't already happened.

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Oops! I missed that statement about the moon. When was that?

Bridgey, are you sure your talk assignment includes anything more than how to (learn to) love thy neighbor? That's sometimes a chore in itself.

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Oct 2001 General Conference

"The vision of Joel has been fulfilled wherein he declared:...'And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions... The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come...'"

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Reminds me of the Hitler Youth, SS, Gestapo, etc... We're already working hard to repeat that! Australia this morning announced mandatory internet filters for children! He who controls the filter controls the truth!

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MYSTICAL JOURNEY



Children identify with our fears
Where adults share our dreams.
Life is a mystical journey
With laughter, sadness and schemes.

A never-ending quest of struggle
Where everyone has their role.
Sometimes wrong, sometimes right,
Facing problems, which take their toll.

Even the beautiful someday shall fade
As year after year they grow old.
With aches, pains, wrinkles and grief
The answers of a lifetime unfold.

How long will we be remembered
For better or for worse?
For being tender and understanding
Or just another person’s curse.

Truthful and honest with family or friends
Staying clear of any who lie or sneak?
Guarding against actions selfish, and cruel
Free to be generous and unique?

After death who will miss us
When to heaven we have gone?
Will family cry our name in tears
As in their hearts we live on?



LIFE


Life's a book written through,
Where the pages are the years.
There's good, evil, false, and true,
With laughter, sweat, and tears.

Our days are songs composed by God,
As we set them to music with pleasure.
His cup of life is for us to drink,
Though, He, decides the measure.

Hurried and worried, dawn till dusk,
There's no time for a curtain call.
We burn our candles from both ends,
And we're lucky to be alive at all.

Cards are shuffled and hands are dealt,
For all to place their bets.
Youthful blunders, adulthood struggles,
And old age, with its regrets.

It matters not, how long we live,
But more, how well we play our part.
For the road to heaven is always near,
As long as there's truth in our heart.



PASSION AND LOVE


Samson so loved Delilah
He ended up grinding grain.
Anthony so loved Cleopatra
He lost all and was slain.

David so loved Bathsheba
He drifted from God’s command.
The way I feel makes it easy
To imagine and understand.

You‘re the inspiration of my day
And the delight of my night.
The joy we share as we conceive
Makes everything feel just right.

Thank heaven for passion and love
Blessings from God to man.
Without them we’re mere creatures
Subsisting like ants in the sand.




THE LAST GOODBYE


I’m on my way to greet my master
And shake his hand when I die.
I’m on my way to john sweet Jesus
In his mansion beyond on high.

I’m on my way to escape man’s woes
Where the faithful rise to tell their story.
Following the path of love and compliance.
Guided by God’s magnificence and glory.

As I journey to and from all I love
It hurts to say my absolute goodbye.
I’m on my way to divine fulfillment
But for those left behind, “I cry”.

The Last Goodbye


By Tom Zart
Soldier For The Lord

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Post by Bridgey »

Thanks for all your input. It has helped. I especially liked the comment about learning to love your neighbour as a critical angle of my talk. It is after all what we are aiming for.

As for GBH announcement re: moon turning to blood already happening. I'm not so sure. when I read the whole talk i wonder if he was only talking about part of those verses vs the whole lot?? In saying that, I was driving home a few years ago and thought to myself, the moon looks blood like in colour. So I really don't know. But I would have thought the fulfillment would have been more significant, like on the news, scientist trying to explain it away , etc. Interesting all the same.

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Bridgey wrote:
As for GBH announcement re: moon turning to blood already happening. I'm not so sure. when I read the whole talk i wonder if he was only talking about part of those verses vs the whole lot??

I don't see how you could come to that conclusion. He said the Prophecy of Joel has been fulfilled wherein he said...

If it was only parts, wouldn't he just say the parts that were fulfilled instead of reading the whole thing? That would be too confusing to have to distinguish, and Satan is the author of confusion. It seems to me, what he said was pretty clear.

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Post by Proud 2b Peculiar »

In David Ridges book 50 signs of the times and second coming he quotes the prophet as having stated it is fulfilled.

He said that he doesn't know how, but takes the prophets word for it. :)

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