Is cosmetic surgery evil?

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I told my Mother to stop while I could still recognize her in a crowd.

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SHE DID FUNDRAISERS

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I told Mark he should stop his quest for cosmetic surgery to change him into his favorite pet. He never listens.
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It occurs to me now that cosmetic surgery is a form of self-mutilation. The definition fits pretty well.

Self-mutilation:
the mutilation of oneself, especially as a symptom of mental or emotional disturbance.

Mutilate:
to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts.

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This life is all about our own individual bodies.... what we choose to do with them and what we don't. Perfection is not completely obtainable here in the earthly sphere, but I say it's ok to try. There is absolutely nothing wrong with improving your appearance as you age or trying to keep the shape God gave ya in the first place. Mutilation or tatoos is not what I would call improvements on your appearance. If a woman wants to look more attractive to others for whatever reason and uses Botox or plastic surgery...... Good for her...... I am aging fairly well and I haven't gone to the plastic surgeon yet, but I do highlight my hair, exercise and use some wrinkle cream on my face...... you could say I'm vain or fake..... but I say I'm just trying to get through mortality in as good as shape as possible and by the looks of some of our congregants, I would suggest they do something!! Attractive healthy people attract attractive healthy people! The reality is that everyone looks at you and casts some sort of judgment. On the flip side of the argument, I don't know why any woman would choose large breast implants..... but that's just me and I'm sure my opinion is a minority one. Trying to look as good as possible while maintaining gospel standards in my opinion is optimal..... after all we live in the dispensation of the fullness of times...... don't be haters...just enjoy it.......

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capctr wrote: November 8th, 2016, 7:04 am As my wife and I lay in bed, she mentioned a desire to get Botox injections and a breastlift/reduction.
I'm not sure how I feel about this-It's one thing to hit the gym, improve nutrition, and get in shape, but surgical modification? Wouldn't God frown on that if it were elective? What do you think, sisters?
Oh yeah, they also have arm lifts for the mythical "RS-armsLOL).
You should have your wife look into the Tao of Sexology and specifically the female deer exercise. It's basically the ancient chinese method for restoring breasts after nursing. Very healthy and beneficial. Don't go for the nip/tuck.

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I know someone who's genuine aspiration is to be a plastic surgeon.

They are one of the most annoying, two-faced and stuck-up people I know.

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What of those who have scoliosis?
Fiannan wrote: November 10th, 2016, 9:48 am When we reach the stage of replacing our bodies with cybernetic parts/entire systems would it be immoral to do so, I mean if we keep the brain and spinal cord of the original person? Many scientists predict this is in our future.

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Luke wrote: February 25th, 2020, 8:45 am I know someone who's genuine aspiration is to be a plastic surgeon.

They are one of the most annoying, two-faced and stuck-up people I know.
Stop beating about the bush Luke and tell us what you really think! 😉

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There are many good reasons for plastic surgery, burn victims, disfigurements, ect.

I think a lot of cosmetic surgery ends up making people look worse, but that's my personal opinion. Faces end up looking to much like plastic. Botox is a definite do not use.

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Luke wrote: February 25th, 2020, 8:45 am I know someone who's genuine aspiration is to be a plastic surgeon.

They are one of the most annoying, two-faced and stuck-up people I know.
My mom is an OR nurse in Utah county and knows many of the surgeons in the area well, including the cosmetic surgeons. On three occasions I have had a child split open their forehead (I promise we do watch our kids...just weird accidents like tripping and hitting a coffee table at grandma’s house or falling off a child sized rocking chair)...But anyway, each of those times she has called her surgeon friends, and every time they have dropped what they were doing like a family party (brought his wife and 2 year old with him), general conference on a Sunday afternoon, getting out of bed at midnight etc., to come to the hospital and stitch up my kids’ faces in such a way that the scar barely shows. Two of those times they ensured I wasn’t charged for their work. So I can’t speak for every plastic surgeon, but I can speak for at least three of them in the Utah area, that are very kind and willing to serve someone in need. Mind you, these are doctors who spend much of their time doing breast augmentations and tummy tucks. But when push comes to shove, I would count them as better people than some of my neighbors and ward members who wouldn’t be willing to inconvenience themselves to help someone else out, especially free of charge.

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i don't think most men even find implants or surgeries significantly more attractive anyway. especially these days, the natural look is becoming much more in fashion. small boobs aren't exactly a turn off for most men in my experience. girls typically aren't privy to most of guys locker room talk and if anything, i suspect a majority of men care more about whats in back than whats in front anyway, and again even there, the natural or petite look is not out-of-fashion or unattractive to most men, at least among the younger generations from my experience, since thats my age group

i also know someone who has been involved in the adult industry. obviously i don't condone porn, though if you want to analyze trends in what people find attractive, porno stats don't lie 😛 and apparently a lot fewer porn stars are getting surgeries these days than they used to

i have seen a few high-quality facelifts that came out looking pretty good & authentic and would say the woman comes out looking more youthful but these are much more rare than common from what i've observed, most come out looking less appealing than before in my opinion, and in the more extreme cases they look like full-blown caricatures

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abijah` wrote: March 1st, 2020, 1:03 pm i don't think most men even find implants or surgeries significantly more attractive anyway. especially these days, the natural look is becoming much more in fashion. small boobs aren't exactly a turn off for most men in my experience. girls typically aren't privy to most of guys locker room talk and if anything, i suspect a majority of men care more about whats in back than whats in front anyway, and again even there, the natural or petite look is not out-of-fashion or unattractive to most men, at least among the younger generations from my experience, since thats my age group

i also know someone who has been involved in the adult industry. obviously i don't condone porn, but if you want to analyze trends in what people find attractive, porno stats don't lie 😛 and apparently a lot fewer porn stars are getting surgeries these days than they used to

i have seen a few high-quality facelifts that came out looking pretty good & authentic and would say the woman comes out looking more youthful but these are much more rare than common from what i've observed, most come out looking less appealing than before in my opinion, and in the more extreme cases they look like full-blown caricatures
Yeah, I hate to admit it, but I got caught up in the big boob trend of the 2000’s and had the surgery right after I got married 12 years ago. Huge (no pun intended) regret. I am such a different person than i was then, and I am embarrassed that I was so concerned about something so stupid, even if I had a “good reason”. I would love to have my implants removed, but that costs as much as the original surgery and I just can’t justify it right now. But I would never encourage any woman to have it done. Plus there’s quite a bit out there now about women experiencing all kinds of horrible health repercussions from the implants themselves, whether they’re silicone or saline.

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Davka wrote: March 1st, 2020, 12:25 pm
Luke wrote: February 25th, 2020, 8:45 am I know someone who's genuine aspiration is to be a plastic surgeon.

They are one of the most annoying, two-faced and stuck-up people I know.
My mom is an OR nurse in Utah county and knows many of the surgeons in the area well, including the cosmetic surgeons. On three occasions I have had a child split open their forehead (I promise we do watch our kids...just weird accidents like tripping and hitting a coffee table at grandma’s house or falling off a child sized rocking chair)...But anyway, each of those times she has called her surgeon friends, and every time they have dropped what they were doing like a family party (brought his wife and 2 year old with him), general conference on a Sunday afternoon, getting out of bed at midnight etc., to come to the hospital and stitch up my kids’ faces in such a way that the scar barely shows. Two of those times they ensured I wasn’t charged for their work. So I can’t speak for every plastic surgeon, but I can speak for at least three of them in the Utah area, that are very kind and willing to serve someone in need. Mind you, these are doctors who spend much of their time doing breast augmentations and tummy tucks. But when push comes to shove, I would count them as better people than some of my neighbors and ward members who wouldn’t be willing to inconvenience themselves to help someone else out, especially free of charge.
My dad had to have a tumor removed from his face. It was a long tumor that had spread from his nose to his ear. He worked outdoors his whole life and his skin is very tan from it. They couldn't do a normal surgery for it because of the difference in his skin tones. His plastic surgeon was amazing. She is one of the best in the northwest. I am so grateful for her skills.

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My wife was pregnant with our twins and they grew very large. Normally, twins tend to be born at much lighter weights than at single (non-twin) births. But since ours were a bit large for twins, their combined birth weight was over 14 lbs. Add on both of their placentas, and amniotic fluid, etc and you get a very large volume that was inside her uterus just before the birth. As a result, her body is stretched, more so than other mothers. She has quite a bit of skin and sag there now. She has expressed interest in maybe getting that tummy tuck down the road. But I like her just the way she is. Whenever I look at that tummy, I choose to think about the miracle that having twins was, and be grateful for all of the children she has bore me, and what a wonderful mother she is.

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Since I'm going to be fully honest, I didn't always feel this way. Her stretched and sagging tummy used to really, REALLY bug me. It took me some years, but I've learned to accept her the way she is and to stop being so shallow. I've been quite shallow in the past but I'm so much better now. Not perfect, but much, MUCH better.

Regarding her desire to do cosmetic surgery, it's not something I will encourage. I won't discourage it either. It's her body, I'll just let her make that decision with pretty much no input from me. If she asks my opinion, I'll probably tell her that her tummy is fine the way it is. (She may have asked already, and if she did, that's probably about what I said in response.)

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Regarding general elective cosmetic surgery, I don't think it's a good idea. Tummy tucks, botox, breast augmentation, what-have-you, I'm generally opposed to. Reason being, we should be grateful for what we have. And doing so is generally due to vanity (the vanity itself being the bigger problem than the actual cosmetic surgery.)

But regarding restorative cosmetic surgery, I really don't have a problem with. I'm referring to fixing scars, removing tumors, etc. Edge cases that could be grouped in this category are outlying abnormalities, such as some naturally occurring (at birth), really large, sticking out from the head ears. I know someone with this. As an adult she should be fine, but as a child (she's still a child), she is relentlessly teased, I'm sure.

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