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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby FTC » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:33 pm

Hezekiah wrote:
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The best thing to do is exactly the opposite of what the church does--don't make a big deal about it.

"Porn addiction" is primarily a Utah phenomenon. Why do you think that is?
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Heck no.
Did you not read the Ensign article?
Some experts have noted the similarities between sex addiction and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. The more you try NOT to think about something, the more you obsess over it. The more you obsess over it, the greater the compulsion to act out. It's like holding a hot iron in your hand and trying to tell yourself not to think about it. Better to let go, walk away, and find something else to think about instead.
This was a problem for some people that would do the sing a church hymn in your head when you started thinking bad thoughts - sure fire way to make the bad thoughts go away. Didn't work for everybody. Someone people doing this started to get sexually aroused when certain hymns would start playing at church. Because the mind associated sexual arousal with that sound (hymn). Turned into a nasty snowball effect.

Outside of mormondom, some people would get aroused just by hearing the sound of a dial-up modem ringing. Because the mind made the connection that the dial-up ring tone was going to lead to sexual things right after.
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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby Fiannan » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:28 am

This was a problem for some people that would do the sing a church hymn in your head when you started thinking bad thoughts
Great example of classical conditioning. I heard of cases where when a person would get the urge to do something naughty they would grab the scriptures and read them. Problem is they would start thinkiing about those actions when they picked up their scriptures even in Church.

Pavlov would understand.
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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby Gage » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Just tell yourself over and over "Do I really want to let these naughty females in these porn videos condemn my soul? And then go take a cold shower and then watch cartoons.

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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby LukeAir2008 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:08 pm

What the evangelicals are saying about those who use pornography..
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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby skmo » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:25 pm

Fiannan wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:28 am
Pavlov would understand.
It would probably ring a bell for his dogs, as well.
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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby SaidNobody » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:44 pm

Looks like I missed some good discussion.

There is a great audio series called "the butterfly effect."

This isn't just one person's problem.

Statistically, testosterone levels have recently begun falling in American males. Teenage pregnancy is down. Some think it's both because of free, streaming porn. Boys and girls are less likely to seek each other out. Husbands and wives are less like struggle through the awkward emotional conflicts.

This is becoming a national heath crisis.

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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby Fiannan » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:31 am

SaidNobody wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:44 pm
Looks like I missed some good discussion.

There is a great audio series called "the butterfly effect."

This isn't just one person's problem.

Statistically, testosterone levels have recently begun falling in American males. Teenage pregnancy is down. Some think it's both because of free, streaming porn. Boys and girls are less likely to seek each other out. Husbands and wives are less like struggle through the awkward emotional conflicts.

This is becoming a national heath crisis.
Actually viewing porn may be an attempt at the subconscious level to boost testosterone as even thinking of sex increases testosterone for both males and females. And before anyone attempts to say this is a justification for porn viewing it isn't, any more than saying if a person is thirsty and is given the opportunity to drink a pitcher of beer that drinking that beer is a good moral choice.

I would think that testosterone levels are down due to obesity, stress, self-loathing and guilt, lack of high impact exercise, low-protein diets (vegans for example), our quest to get rid of competitive attitudes in males in particular, drinking alcohol and smoking. Modern life and lifestyles are castrating men. It is part of a design in my opinion to crash the birthrate.
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Re: husband trying to recover from porn addiction

Postby SaidNobody » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:28 am

Fiannan wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:31 am
Actually viewing porn may be an attempt at the subconscious level to boost testosterone as even thinking of sex increases testosterone for both males and females.
I might have agreed with this once, but I get the impression the drop is connected to the porn.

I wish I knew of other studies on the matter.


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