janderich wrote: ↑January 19th, 2018, 10:05 pmJohn sharing the words of the Savior tells us, "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear the the Spirit saith..." (Rev 3:21). Spaced_Out can you hear what the Savior is telling us?Spaced_Out wrote: ↑January 19th, 2018, 6:24 pm One does not need to live a sinless life but repent and overcome the sin and be forgiven in this life. When we repent our sins are forgiven and no longer remembered - so when we die and come to the final judgement God will see us as having lived a sinless life, and will be resurrected to eternal life never to suffer pain in the flesh again. There is only one eternal and infinite sacrifice.
We do not need to overcome as He overcame there is no such teaching - we need to come forth sinless through repentance.
"And I, God, created man in mine own image, in the image of mine Only Begotten created I him; male and female created I them." (Moses 2:27). How is it that he has and is creating man in the image of his Only Begotten? If it wasn't the Lord himself who spoke it, I'm sure you and Silver would cry "blasphemy"! As it is you will simply try and twist the words to fit your paradigm.Spaced_Out wrote: The scriptures are clear there is only one Anointed One, only one Savior for all of creations and those that are still to be, and if we repent we do not suffer as He suffered, an if we don't repent we suffer as he suffered and are then redeemed to a kingdom of glory.
Then Christ himself is anti-Christ for he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." (John 14:12). Here is how that scripture is explained in Lectures on Faith, "All these sayings put together give as clear an account of the state of the glorified Saints as language could give—the works that Jesus had done they were to do, and greater works than those which he had done among them should they do, and that because he went to the Father. (lecture 7:12) When will you hear what the scriptures are saying? How long can you close your ears to the word of the Lord?Spaced_Out wrote:Now you teach we must all suffer as He suffered and do the works He did that is an anti-Chris teaching - there is no such teaching anywhere in any scripture or commentary by a GA - it is simply an imagination of your mind and you totally misunderstand the scripture..
Matthew 20:20 ¶ Then came to him the mother of Zebedee’s children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.
21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.
22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.
23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
24 And when the ten heard it, they were moved with indignation against the two brethren.
25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.