I put this in the category of ---very beneficial / a must listen

[diligently seeking]

http://mstroud.podomatic.com/

Podcast #60

For those of you who do not know Mike Stroud he is a retired Institute teacher of 30 years. He and his wife a few years ago got back from serving their 3rd mission. I see him as one of many Latter Day Samuel the lamanites on the wall... What a blessing...

[Arandur]

Thanks! Only listened to a little bit, and so far it seems excellent. Bookmarked for later.

[kittycat51]

May I quote from a post last week from Lyanne7:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=46522

A WORD OF WARNING....
After much research, talking to someone who used to know the former Mike Stroud, talking to priesthood leaders after a scary possession episode. I am going to implore true humble LDS Saints of who i pray are still in the majority on this site to AVOID LIKE POISON (words from church leadership) the writings of Mike Stroud and these so called Quorum blessings that are being done at these prepper camps.

1) I want you to read Jacob chapter 4 focus on versus 14 and 15 to understand what is happening with these people that are "Looking beyond the mark".

2) So called Quorum blessing are not ordained, taught nor done by the brethren. If this style of blessing was to be used it would be taught by one with the keys to do so. I have spoken and the church authorities are now investigating this. It is a man made falsehood, but it is more dangerous than you realize.

3) Because it is not sanctioned, I have it on eye witness that they are not rebuking evil spiritual possession but opening a portal for that person to be possessed. I have seen in my friends that have participated in this that they have more than one person in them, there eyes are darkened, the light is gone. They say all the right things but the spirit is gone and their eyes show a darkness. There were many at this last Prepare a people conference, who had also participated in these AVOW camps who had done this blessing. I walked around and saw the blindness in there eyes.

4) Mike Stroud (read Jacob chapter 4 verse 14 to the end) to understand why and how Mike has gone off the path. His podcasts and writing are like poison please avoid it.

WHY DO I IMPLORE YOU????? A friend brought over a printout of his podcasts for me because he knew I was researching it. I left it on the couch, the spirit kept telling me to put it away, but I began to struggle with a spirit of confusion all that day. I had to leave and my teenage daughter sat down as i was leaving and placed her hand on the binder. I instantly felt a fear through this haze and said "Don't touch that". I wanted to then put it away and tell her not to read it, but all of a sudden other family came into the room, i was hit with a panic attack and focused on rushing out the door in haste.
Later i get a call from my husband. My daughter is in hysterics, crying, ranting, saying she is possessed, afraid feeling ashamed I wont believe her. I rush home and discover she read those damn articles of Mike Stroud, all of them! She said she felt like an addict and couldn't stop. We had to get the Bishop and Elders quorum president over to give her a blessing. His work opens a doorway to let these evil spirits in.
I have a friend who is a counselor and has worked with the church with survivor of Satanic ritual abuse. The Church has special missionaries who deal with rebuking possessions..this is not for us to play with.
The Gospel is simple, plain, perfect and true. An adulterous nation seeketh after signs....
You must learn now to tell the difference between the sweet quiet peace of the Holy Ghost or the titillating emotional highs of Satan
These groups are wrong in what they are doing..... ZION is here right now in our hearts in our stakes in the good ship ZION. These groups even though they say they follow the prophet they do not. AVOW, Prepare a People groups, Chad Daybell (UGH!!!_) Julie Rowe etc they talk like the Zoramites...how they are so :awake:!!!! "Thank you God that we are not like the general membership of the church" "Thank you God that we know we are of the 144,000" Boasting all the day long talking about seperation from the body of the church. As my Bishop so clearly put it..."They are literally spiritually killing the prophet"

Brothers and sisters on this site, it is enough!!!!! repent of any thoughts, arrogance, high mindness.....come back to the plain and simple things...READ your scriptures, Pray daily, live your callings, be one with the Saints in the designated ward setting and programs of the church...please cease going to these non approved by the church spiritual and prepper fairs...
Please you are the elect being deceived right now!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love your sister in Christ, may God take the blinders of your eyes and the spirit pierce the wall around your heart
In the sacred name of Jesus Christ

[Arandur]

Thank you as well kittycat51 (and also Lyanne7 if you happen to see this). I hadn't heard of this person. I'll read the thread where that post originated and see what I can find out about what he's doing, and pray on this carefully.

[diligently seeking]

May I quote from a post last week from Lyanne7:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=46522

A WORD OF WARNING....
After much research, talking to someone who used to know the former Mike Stroud, talking to priesthood leaders after a scary possession episode. I am going to implore true humble LDS Saints of who i pray are still in the majority on this site to AVOID LIKE POISON (words from church leadership) the writings of Mike Stroud and these so called Quorum blessings that are being done at these prepper camps.

1) I want you to read Jacob chapter 4 focus on versus 14 and 15 to understand what is happening with these people that are "Looking beyond the mark".

2) So called Quorum blessing are not ordained, taught nor done by the brethren. If this style of blessing was to be used it would be taught by one with the keys to do so. I have spoken and the church authorities are now investigating this. It is a man made falsehood, but it is more dangerous than you realize.

3) Because it is not sanctioned, I have it on eye witness that they are not rebuking evil spiritual possession but opening a portal for that person to be possessed. I have seen in my friends that have participated in this that they have more than one person in them, there eyes are darkened, the light is gone. They say all the right things but the spirit is gone and their eyes show a darkness. There were many at this last Prepare a people conference, who had also participated in these AVOW camps who had done this blessing. I walked around and saw the blindness in there eyes.

4) Mike Stroud (read Jacob chapter 4 verse 14 to the end) to understand why and how Mike has gone off the path. His podcasts and writing are like poison please avoid it.

WHY DO I IMPLORE YOU????? A friend brought over a printout of his podcasts for me because he knew I was researching it. I left it on the couch, the spirit kept telling me to put it away, but I began to struggle with a spirit of confusion all that day. I had to leave and my teenage daughter sat down as i was leaving and placed her hand on the binder. I instantly felt a fear through this haze and said "Don't touch that". I wanted to then put it away and tell her not to read it, but all of a sudden other family came into the room, i was hit with a panic attack and focused on rushing out the door in haste.
Later i get a call from my husband. My daughter is in hysterics, crying, ranting, saying she is possessed, afraid feeling ashamed I wont believe her. I rush home and discover she read those damn articles of Mike Stroud, all of them! She said she felt like an addict and couldn't stop. We had to get the Bishop and Elders quorum president over to give her a blessing. His work opens a doorway to let these evil spirits in.
I have a friend who is a counselor and has worked with the church with survivor of Satanic ritual abuse. The Church has special missionaries who deal with rebuking possessions..this is not for us to play with.
The Gospel is simple, plain, perfect and true. An adulterous nation seeketh after signs....
You must learn now to tell the difference between the sweet quiet peace of the Holy Ghost or the titillating emotional highs of Satan
These groups are wrong in what they are doing..... ZION is here right now in our hearts in our stakes in the good ship ZION. These groups even though they say they follow the prophet they do not. AVOW, Prepare a People groups, Chad Daybell (UGH!!!_) Julie Rowe etc they talk like the Zoramites...how they are so :awake:!!!! "Thank you God that we are not like the general membership of the church" "Thank you God that we know we are of the 144,000" Boasting all the day long talking about seperation from the body of the church. As my Bishop so clearly put it..."They are literally spiritually killing the prophet"

Brothers and sisters on this site, it is enough!!!!! repent of any thoughts, arrogance, high mindness.....come back to the plain and simple things...READ your scriptures, Pray daily, live your callings, be one with the Saints in the designated ward setting and programs of the church...please cease going to these non approved by the church spiritual and prepper fairs...
Please you are the elect being deceived right now!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love your sister in Christ, may God take the blinders of your eyes and the spirit pierce the wall around your heart
In the sacred name of Jesus Christ

I would say the common theme I gathered from this post was---FEAR. I have listened to probably six of Mike's podcasts. I don't know a whole lot about him. However-- His podcast are full of truth and clarity of the Spirit. I gather from this sister's post some misrepresentations about him... I should say-- I discern. I would encourage all to not let anybody interpret wholesale-- God's word and will for you . We hear we listen we read we apply and we let God be the ultimate confirmer of truth. Fear is not of God. Move forward in faith and confidence with the pure motive to know Christ and have him confirm-- all will work out for your good through this route. I would also ad just like this sister doesn't come close to understanding the backstory of Mike Stroud neither do we understand this sister and her backstory and why things occurred the way they did for her... Be grounded in truth and Christ's word-- and all will manifest as it should through proper fruits.

[Matchmaker]

http://mstroud.podomatic.com/

Podcast #60

For those of you who do not know Mike Stroud he is a retired Institute teacher of 30 years. He and his wife a few years ago got back from serving their 3rd mission. I see him as one of many Latter Day Samuel the lamanites on the wall... What a blessing...

His podcast on the word "perplexity" was informative. It's interesting how he followed the trail of the word he received throughout the scriptures.

[diligently seeking]

http://mstroud.podomatic.com/

Podcast #60

For those of you who do not know Mike Stroud he is a retired Institute teacher of 30 years. He and his wife a few years ago got back from serving their 3rd mission. I see him as one of many Latter Day Samuel the lamanites on the wall... What a blessing...

His podcast on the word "perplexity" was informative. It's interesting how he followed the trail of the word he received throughout the scriptures.

I agree. M.M, as with anything out of a spiritually profound and significant value, mmultiple readings and listening ads increased Clarity-- listen to it again you'll be amazed at the thoughts and ideas that come and increased emphasis on significant points... God bless!

[diligently seeking]

In increased fairness to Mike Stroud in regards to the forwarded post of Lyann7 from kittycat51 ---please listen to podcast #40 "Trust in the Lord" from Mike. It will put Lyann7's Post in much much more clear context...Ps #41 "entering into the rest of the Lord" is amazing too. Well worth a listen!

He has book of Mormon podcast's with the same #'s. Look for titles that I typed above with the correct number

Side note: the amazing Clarity he gives on the importance of receiving the baptism of fire and Holy Ghost #45 "baptism of fire, precursor" will help a person to understand why they either do or don't rely so much on the strength of the arm of the flesh. These things you will learn amongst many other very important reasons why we should receive this great gift...


http://mstroud.podomatic.com/

2Timothy 1:
...7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind...

[Arenera]

It is usually interesting to listen to those who have a tenure in Institute or Seminary. Stroud goes to some of the "higher level" concepts like being translated and second comforter.

Denver Snuffer has given a bad name to Institute teachers.

However, Stroud gets into prognostication with the solar eclipse and Sept 23. He says in his opinion, Sept 23 represents the end of the Gentiles. He believes cleansing is soon to begin.

[Arenera]

I listened to #45, Baptism of Fire

I enjoyed the podcast, yet this is not for the faint of heart.

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

[diligently seeking]

I listened to #45, Baptism of Fire

I enjoyed the podcast, yet this is not for the faint of heart.

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

It is an awesome podcast spoken in plainness.

By "not for the faint of heart" do you mean those who rest the scriptures and will not know and understand this vital and plain / salvationely important doctrine of receiving ones baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost etc?

I have not the slightest clue who Shelly McDermott is.


I sincerely wonder if people said the same when Alma the younger hooked up with Amulek---- a known man of the world before his conversion?

Passing judgment is so easy...

Ps I like how you can link through words ie "baptism of fire" to a podcast / attachment how did you do that!?

[Arenera]

I listened to #45, Baptism of Fire

I enjoyed the podcast, yet this is not for the faint of heart.

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

It is an awesome podcast spoken in plainness.

By "not for the faint of heart" do you mean those who rest the scriptures and will not know and understand this vital and plain / salvationely important doctrine of receiving ones baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost etc?

I have not the slightest clue who Shelly McDermott is.


I sincerely wonder if people said the same when Alma the younger hooked up with Amulek---- a known man of the world before his conversion?

Passing judgment is so easy...

Ps I like how you can link through words ie "baptism of fire" to a podcast / attachment how did you do that!?

URL first: when you click on the URL button, you put an = after the first url, then paste the url, then after the ] you put whatever description you want:

url=https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/mstr ... 0_42-08_00]Baptism of Fire[/url]

This podcast is the best description of Baptism of Fire that I have seen. That being said, it is not taught in Church. That is what I mean by faint of heart.

There is much in the Book of Mormon that is in plain view, but we don't see it. I like it when someone points that out.

[kittycat51]

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

She is part of the fringe group in my mind, with all her "predictions" just like Julie Rowe. If Stroud is connected to her than for that reason alone, beware and be cautious. I'm not saying that what he has to say is not interesting or "truth". But you have to remember that Satan will tell 99 truths just to get you to buy 1 lie.

The great institute teacher angle doesn't hold water either for me. People can fall or slightly stray; it happens all the time. My sibling had a seminary teacher who was much loved and adored by ALL. He was so charismatic and seemed to know what he was teaching/talking about. That is until he started to pull extreme right...right into fundamentalism. He was able to pull many people in with him and away from the Church, all while holding a current temple recommend. He had to be excommunicated.

[diligently seeking]

I listened to #45, Baptism of Fire

I enjoyed the podcast, yet this is not for the faint of heart.

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

It is an awesome podcast spoken in plainness.

By "not for the faint of heart" do you mean those who rest the scriptures and will not know and understand this vital and plain / salvationely important doctrine of receiving ones baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost etc?

I have not the slightest clue who Shelly McDermott is.


I sincerely wonder if people said the same when Alma the younger hooked up with Amulek---- a known man of the world before his conversion?

Passing judgment is so easy...

Ps I like how you can link through words ie "baptism of fire" to a podcast / attachment how did you do that!?

URL first: when you click on the URL button, you put an = after the first url, then paste the url, then after the ] you put whatever description you want:

url=https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/mstr ... 0_42-08_00]Baptism of Fire[/url]

This podcast is the best description of Baptism of Fire that I have seen. That being said, it is not taught in Church. That is what I mean by faint of heart.

There is much in the Book of Mormon that is in plain view, but we don't see it. I like it when someone points that out.

"This podcast is the best description of Baptism of Fire that I have seen. That being said, it is not taught in Church. That is what I mean by faint of heart."

I express soberly and desire to shed light on the fact that if salvational truths are not emphasized in church( like they should) which are and have been taught via scriptures and by leaders in abundance in times past than what is received in place of is the precepts of man = skirting around...

2nephi 28
31 Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm, or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be given by the power of the Holy Ghost.


Here is a great talk by a wonderful leader who taught the significance of these truths 40 years ago.

The Light of Christ



Marion G. Romney





My brethren, I pray, and ask you to join in that prayer, that while I speak we will enjoy the Spirit of Christ. If we don’t enjoy it, we won’t enjoy these remarks, because my topic is “The Light of Christ.” There are three phases of the light of Christ that I want to mention.


The first one is the light which enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world;


The second phase is the gift of the Holy Ghost;


And the third is the more sure word of prophecy.


In the eighty-eighth section of the Doctrine and Covenants, the Lord says, “The light of Christ … proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space.” (D&C 88:7, 12.)


In another revelation, it is written that this light, which is “the Spirit of Jesus Christ … giveth light to every man that cometh into the world; and the Spirit enlighteneth every man through the world, that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit.” (D&C 84:45–46.)


This Spirit is, no doubt, the source of one’s conscience, which Webster defines as “a knowledge or feeling of right and wrong with a compulsion to do right.”


Mormon was alluding to this Spirit when he wrote to his son Moroni that “every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is inspired of God.


“Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is evil to be of God, or that which is good and of God to be of the devil.


“For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, [and that gift is because the light of Christ enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world], that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.


“For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil.” (Moro. 7:13–16.)


President Joseph F. Smith says that this Spirit of Christ “strives with … men, and will continue to strive with them [if they will resist the enticings of Satan], until it brings them to a knowledge of the truth and the possession of the greater light and testimony of the Holy Ghost.” (Gospel Doctrine, Deseret Book Co., 1973, pp. 67–68.)


Now, this statement of President Smith’s brings us to a consideration of the second phase of our subject: the gift of the Holy Ghost.


The Holy Ghost is a person, a spirit, the third member of the Godhead. He is a messenger and a witness of the Father and the Son. He brings to men testimony, witness, and knowledge of God the Father, Jesus Christ His Son, and the truths of the gospel. He vitalizes truth in the hearts and souls of men.


“There is a difference,” said the Prophet Joseph Smith, “between the Holy Ghost and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Cornelius received the Holy Ghost before he was baptized, which was the convincing power of God unto him of the truth of the Gospel, but he could not receive the gift of the Holy Ghost until after he was baptized. Had he not [been baptized], the Holy Ghost which convinced him of the truth of God, would have left him.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 199.) That’s not my statement; that’s the statement of the Prophet Joseph Smith. But I know it’s true.


The gift of the Holy Ghost confers upon one, as long as he is worthy, the right to receive light and truth.


Obtaining the gift of the Holy Ghost is preceded by faith, repentance, and baptism. Retaining the spirit, power, and guidance of the Holy Ghost requires a righteous life—a dedicated effort to constantly comply with the laws and ordinances of the gospel.


The Holy Ghost is, as we have said, the third member of the Godhead. Of Him the Prophet Joseph said:


“The Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones [as we know that God and Jesus Christ have], but is a personage of Spirit.” (D&C 130:22.)


The Holy Ghost is the great witness of, the messenger for, and testifier of the Father and the Son. The Savior, speaking of Him as the “Spirit of truth,” said:


“When he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


“He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” (John 16:13–14.)


By the witness and power of the Holy Ghost we receive personal testimonies of the truths of the gospel, including knowledge of God the Father and His beloved Son, Jesus Christ, our Savior and Redeemer.


Notwithstanding the availability of the gifts of the Holy Ghost, there are many people who live within reach of them who fail to see them. Concerning such tragedy, the Lord said:


“Behold, I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I am the same that came unto mine own, and mine own received me not. I am the light which shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not.” (D&C 6:21.)


All three of the synoptic Gospel writers record the following classic illustration of the difficulty one in darkness has in comprehending the light. Matthew’s version reads:


“When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?


“And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.” (Matt. 16:13–14.)


Now, the people who expressed these opinions were Christ’s contemporaries. Their conclusions evidenced the fact that they knew something about His mighty works. No doubt they were aware of His claim that He was the Son of God. Their minds, however, were opaque to the light of His true identity. Although the light was shining brightly about them, they “comprehended it not.”


Having heard their answer as to who men said He was, Jesus directed to His disciples the question, “But whom say ye that I am?” (Matt. 16:15.)


Then Peter, speaking for himself and presumptively for the others, answered, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (Matt. 16:16.) In this declaration, Peter evidenced the fact that he and his fellow disciples did comprehend the light shining in the world of spiritual darkness around them.


In His response to Peter’s answer, Jesus declared a truth understood only by those who comprehend the light by and through the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, for Jesus’ answer was:


“Flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,” He said, “but my Father which is in heaven, … and upon this rock”—meaning, upon the rock of revelation, which comes by means of the Holy Ghost—“I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” (Matt. 16:17–18.)


How difficult it is to get one in darkness to comprehend the light or to believe that there is such light is illustrated by John’s account of the interview between Jesus and Nicodemus.


“There was,” says John, “a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:


“[Who] came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.


“Jesus answered and said … Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


“Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?


“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” (John 3:1–5; see also John 3:6–10.)


One is born again by actually receiving and experiencing the light and power inherent in the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Now, concerning the third phase of our theme, “the more sure word of prophecy” (D&C 131:5), which is obtained by making one’s “calling and election sure” (2 Pet. 1:10), the Prophet Joseph said:


“After a person has faith in Christ, repents of his sins, and is baptized for the remission of his sins and receives the Holy Ghost, (by the laying on of hands) … then let him continue to humble himself before God, hungering and thirsting after righteousness, and living by every word of God, and the Lord will soon say unto him, Son, thou shalt be exalted. When the Lord has thoroughly proved him, and finds that the man is determined to serve Him at all hazards, then the man will find his calling and his election made sure, then it will be his privilege to receive the other Comforter, which the Lord hath promised the Saints, as is recorded in the testimony of St. John.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 150.)


In the eighty-eighth section of the Doctrine and Covenants is recorded a revelation in which the Lord, addressing some of the early Saints in Ohio, said:


“I now send upon you another Comforter, even upon you my friends, that it may abide in your hearts, even the Holy Spirit of promise; which other Comforter is the same that I promised unto my disciples, as is recorded in the testimony of John.


“This Comforter is the promise which I give unto you of eternal life, even the glory of the celestial kingdom.” (D&C 88:3–4.)


I should think that all faithful Latter-day Saints “would want that more sure word of prophecy, that they were sealed in the heavens and had the promise of eternal life in the kingdom of God.” (History of the Church of JesusChrist of Latter-day Saints, 5:388.)


As I read the sacred records, I find recorded experiences of men in all dispensations who have had this more sure anchor to their souls, this peace in their hearts.


Lehi’s grandson Enos so hungered after righteousness that he cried unto the Lord until “there came a voice unto [him], saying: Enos, thy sins are forgiven thee, and thou shalt be blessed.” (Enos 1:5.) Years later Enos revealed the nature of this promised blessing when he wrote:


“I soon go to the place of my rest, which is with my Redeemer; for I know that in him I shall rest. And I rejoice in the day when my mortal shall put on immortality, and shall stand before him; then shall I see his face with pleasure, and he will say unto me: Come unto me, ye blessed, there is a place prepared for you in the mansions of my Father.” (Enos 1:27.)


To Alma the Lord said, “Thou art my servant; and I covenant with thee that thou shalt have eternal life.” (Mosiah 26:20.)


To His twelve Nephite disciples, the Master said:


“What is it that ye desire of me, after that I am gone to the Father?


“And they all spake, save it were three, saying: We desire that after we have lived unto the age of man, that our ministry, wherein thou hast called us, may have an end, that we may speedily come unto thee in thy kingdom.


“And he said unto them: Blessed are ye because ye desired this thing of me; therefore, after that ye are seventy and two years old ye shall come unto me in my kingdom; and with me ye shall find rest.” (3 Ne. 28:1–3.)


As Moroni labored in solitude abridging the Jaredite record, he received from the Lord this comforting assurance:


“Thou hast been faithful; wherefore, thy garments shall be made clean. And because thou hast seen thy weakness thou shalt be made strong, even unto the sitting down in the place which I have prepared in the mansions of my Father.” (Ether 12:37.)


Paul, in his second epistle to Timothy, wrote:


“I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.


“I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:


“Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day.” (2 Tim. 4:6–8.)


In this dispensation many have received like assurances. In the spring of 1839, while the Prophet Joseph and his associates were languishing in Liberty Jail, Heber C. Kimball, our president’s grandfather, labored against great odds caring for the Saints and striving to free the brethren who were in jail. On the sixth of April he wrote:


“My family having been gone about two months, during which time I heard nothing from them; our brethren being in prison; death and destruction following us everywhere we went; I felt very sorrowful and lonely. The following words came to mind, and the Spirit said unto me, ‘write,’ which I did by taking a piece of paper and writing on my knee as follows: …


“Verily I say unto my servant Heber, thou art my son, in whom I am well pleased; for thou art careful to hearken to my words, and not transgress my law, nor rebel against my servant Joseph Smith, for thou hast a respect to the words of mine anointed, even from the least to the greatest of them; therefore”—listen to this—“thy name is written in heaven, no more to be blotted out for ever.” (Orson F. Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, Bookcraft, 1975, p. 241; italics added.)


To the Prophet Joseph Smith the Lord said:


“I am the Lord thy God, and will be with thee even unto the end of the world, and through all eternity; for verily I seal upon you your exaltation, and prepare a throne for you in the kingdom of my Father, with Abraham your father.” (D&C 132:49; italics added.)


Now my beloved brethren, by way of summary and conclusion, I bear witness to the verity of these great truths. I know that the Spirit of Christ enlighteneth “every man that cometh into the world; and [that] the Spirit enlighteneth every man through the world, that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit.” (D&C 84:46.)


I know that everyone who, following the whisperings of the Spirit, develops faith, is baptized, and receives the Holy Ghost through the laying on of hands by those having authority, may, by compliance with the teachings of the gospel, receive the gifts and the power of the Holy Ghost.


And I bear further witness that every such person who, having come this far, will follow the Prophet’s admonition to “continue to humble himself before God, hungering and thirsting after righteousness, and living by every word of God” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 150), may obtain the more sure word of prophecy.


That the Lord will bless all of us priesthood bearers that we will so understand these great truths, that in the end we shall, by making our calling and election sure, enjoy the full light of Christ, I humbly pray, in the name of Jesus Christ, our Redeemer. Amen.

[Arenera]

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

She is part of the fringe group in my mind, with all her "predictions" just like Julie Rowe. If Stroud is connected to her than for that reason alone, beware and be cautious. I'm not saying that what he has to say is not interesting or "truth". But you have to remember that Satan will tell 99 truths just to get you to buy 1 lie.

The great institute teacher angle doesn't hold water either for me. People can fall or slightly stray; it happens all the time. My sibling had a seminary teacher who was much loved and adored by ALL. He was so charismatic and seemed to know what he was teaching/talking about. That is until he started to pull extreme right...right into fundamentalism. He was able to pull many people in with him and away from the Church, all while holding a current temple recommend. He had to be excommunicated.

Good points. You have to be careful for sure. I did like 45. 60 he goes all out on predictions, we will have to see how that goes. If it's like SM and JR, it will be crash and burn time.

[LDS Physician]

http://mstroud.podomatic.com/

Podcast #60

For those of you who do not know Mike Stroud he is a retired Institute teacher of 30 years. He and his wife a few years ago got back from serving their 3rd mission. I see him as one of many Latter Day Samuel the lamanites on the wall... What a blessing...

Thanks for posting, friend!

[Matchmaker]

I am enjoying his podcast Book of Mormon Seminary classes. Thank you for posting the link. His voice is gentle on the ears.

[diligently seeking]

I am enjoying his podcast Book of Mormon Seminary classes. Thank you for posting the link. His voice is gentle on the ears.

You are welcome Matchmaker. He is a gifted / inspired teacher. He is a tender mercy from the Lord in these final hours of our dispensation to shed light on and help us lay hold upon / receive the fullness of the gospel... Be steadfast and believing in the receiving...

[Arenera]

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[Matchmaker]

A Must Listen to is 043 "Will Ye Also Go Away?" Elder Stroud defends the modern-day Prophets and the Apostles and the LDS Church organization in the latter-days and seeks to bring those who have left the Church back into the fold. His testimony of the LDS Church and that staying in the boat is our place to be is strong and inspiring.

[Arenera]

A Must Listen to is 043 "Will Ye Also Go Away?" Elder Stroud defends the modern-day Prophets and the Apostles and the LDS Church organization in the latter-days and seeks to bring those who have left the Church back into the fold. His testimony of the LDS Church and that staying in the boat is our place to be is strong and inspiring.

I'm enjoying the podcasts as well.

[Arenera]

See Helaman 5; Baptism of Fire

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[EmmaLee]

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

She is part of the fringe group in my mind, with all her "predictions" just like Julie Rowe. If Stroud is connected to her than for that reason alone, beware and be cautious. I'm not saying that what he has to say is not interesting or "truth". But you have to remember that Satan will tell 99 truths just to get you to buy 1 lie.

If Stroud's link to McDermott disconcerts you, then his admiration of Denver Snuffer should tell you all you need to know about him.

https://wheatandtares.org/2017/09/16/wh ... ke-stroud/

https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/?s=stroud - scroll down about 3/4 of the way to get to the part about Stroud and Snuffer.

viewtopic.php?t=46522

[Arenera]

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

She is part of the fringe group in my mind, with all her "predictions" just like Julie Rowe. If Stroud is connected to her than for that reason alone, beware and be cautious. I'm not saying that what he has to say is not interesting or "truth". But you have to remember that Satan will tell 99 truths just to get you to buy 1 lie.

If Stroud's link to McDermott disconcerts you, then his admiration of Denver Snuffer should tell you all you need to know about him.

https://wheatandtares.org/2017/09/16/wh ... ke-stroud/

https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/?s=stroud - scroll down about 3/4 of the way to get to the part about Stroud and Snuffer.

viewtopic.php?t=46522

Denver is a false prophet and is leading people away.

Mike Stroud does give some good information. Should a person ignore him?

I would like to hear your thoughts on the above question.

How would you classify President Nelson from the below?

The Price of Priesthood Power

If we will humbly present ourselves before the Lord and ask Him to teach us, He will show us how to increase our access to His power.

How is the above done?

How else can we increase our power in the priesthood? We need to pray from our hearts. Polite recitations of past and upcoming activities, punctuated with some requests for blessings, cannot constitute the kind of communing with God that brings enduring power. Are you willing to pray to know how to pray for more power? The Lord will teach you.

[EmmaLee]

I'm also a little disconcerted with the Shelle McDermott connection.

She is part of the fringe group in my mind, with all her "predictions" just like Julie Rowe. If Stroud is connected to her than for that reason alone, beware and be cautious. I'm not saying that what he has to say is not interesting or "truth". But you have to remember that Satan will tell 99 truths just to get you to buy 1 lie.

If Stroud's link to McDermott disconcerts you, then his admiration of Denver Snuffer should tell you all you need to know about him.

https://wheatandtares.org/2017/09/16/wh ... ke-stroud/

https://onewhoiswatching.wordpress.com/?s=stroud - scroll down about 3/4 of the way to get to the part about Stroud and Snuffer.

viewtopic.php?t=46522

Denver is a false prophet and is leading people away.

Mike Stroud does give some good information. Should a person ignore him?

I would like to hear your thoughts on the above question.

How would you classify President Nelson from the below?

The Price of Priesthood Power

If we will humbly present ourselves before the Lord and ask Him to teach us, He will show us how to increase our access to His power.

How is the above done?

How else can we increase our power in the priesthood? We need to pray from our hearts. Polite recitations of past and upcoming activities, punctuated with some requests for blessings, cannot constitute the kind of communing with God that brings enduring power. Are you willing to pray to know how to pray for more power? The Lord will teach you.

Snuffer gives some good information, too, just like Stroud. So if that's the criteria to go by, then LDS people should listen to Snuffer as much as Stroud. If he keeps on his present tack, Stroud will end up like Snuffer, as they all seem to. In fact, I view people like Stroud as more dangerous than people like Snuffer. Not all false prophets are outside the Church. At least Snuffer is open and honest about his beliefs, unlike others who lie just enough to remain in the LDS Church (and keep their recommends), so they can deceive even more people (because, "you know, the Church hasn't told them to stop, so they must be speaking the truth" - can't tell you how many times I hear that in relation to Stroud, Rowe, et al). Reading in several different groups/forums, it's easy to see the appeal Stroud has to members - what they feel they're gaining by listening to him (over just the boring ol' Mormon leaders and all). It's all very enticing, just like Snuffer, Rowe, and all the fringe folks.

Since you asked for my answer to your question, I would say it depends on the person. Most LDS people seem to want someone to tell them what to do, say, think, and believe. If that person is Jesus Christ, then great! If that person is someone else - anyone else - then extreme caution is warranted, because everybody gets things wrong, except Christ. More than anything else, a person should pray for good and correct discernment these days, IMO. So I hesitate to answer either 'yes' or 'no', as a blanket answer - but if I had to, I would say no, people shouldn't listen to him (yes, they should ignore him) - and more importantly, they don't need to, and if they think they need to, there are more basic issues they need to correct.

I'm not sure what exactly you're asking about Pres. Nelson's comments. I agree with him when he says to "present ourselves before the Lord and ask him to teach us" - great recommendation!! People should do that very thing (and should turn off the Stroud's, Snuffer's, and Rowe's of the world). As to how it is done - isn't that information in the scriptures? Especially the Book of Mormon? Yes, it is. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply. There is nothing anyone can learn from Stroud (and all these others) that we shouldn't be able to learn for ourselves.