If you lived under Moses and prayed to know if he was doing God's will. You might get an answer saying yes. Then you might see him his a rock with his staff and think how amazing he was and assume that he was doing what God wanted him to do and you would be trusting in a previous revelation and not realize that he was displeasing God. Then if you lived till Christ's time and assumed that your previous revelation and witness that Moses was the prophet and doing the lord's will was valid reason for accepting the current leaders of the church and that they were doing God's will in killing Christ, you would be sorely mistaken. Revelation is valid when you receive it and over what you received. The idea that the Book of Mormon is true and so the Church is true is not logical or that Joseph Smith was a true prophet and so every other leader of the church is a true prophet doing God's will is like claiming that the Sanhedrin that killed Christ were true because Moses was a true prophet and gave us 5 books in the bible. The logic is flawed because change is inevitable.BTH&T wrote:Are you the one trying to blind with the craftiness of men?Amonhi wrote: Sometimes, when we experiment and search and try our faith, it is proven wrong, refined or changed entirely. It can be difficult for us. This thread was somewhat difficult for me as I lost a number of beliefs that I had previously held. But, I am built on the rock and therefore remain unshaken. In the end, I learned a TON about where we were and how we came to be here now. I think about 60% on the information from the OP to page 3 or so was new to me, and I didn't even write all of what I had learned. I lost a significant amount of faith in false things as well. Glad to let it go. False faith won't save anyone. It is blinding.
It has always seemed to me that there are those that continue to ask questions, and once given an answer wondering if they will get a different answer if they keep looking.
I have been answered on the restored Gospel, no need to keep asking.
Book of Mormon, no need to keep asking, I know it is true and of God.
This (TCOJCOLDS) is the Saviors True Church, it is being ran as HE directs! No need to question it!
The Apostles that were excommunicated for living adultery for many years were acting as apostles. Calling people, and filling the position. Did they have the spirit during those years? Did God give them his spirit while they were sleeping with harlots? Were those being called by them being called by revelation?
To say that the church is true or that leaders are true doesn't tell us much. Jonah was a true prophet too. But we know his character flaws.
Why ask again? Because people and circumstances change. Why sustain them again? Because people and circumstances change. Not everything Joseph Smith did was inspired or of God. We need to learn to recognized when they are and when they are not, through the spirit. Blanket Statements and blanket revelations are helpful for the lower levels, but we will not become advanced in the spirit through such statements. And we will certainly be led astray from God if we rely on blanket statements or even our own past revelation.
It is funny how those who start entertaining angels and Gods tend to see errors in the church, I wonder why?So this is why I really do not get why so many "ask" and "question" the doctrines that have been given in these later days.
It seems that too many are caught up with the "deeper things" and lose their faith altogether.
The Book of Mormon might be the most correct book, but it is not perfectly correct. The Church might be Christ's church, but it not everything it does is Christ's doing/will. The Prophet might be a prophet of God, but everything he says and does is not inspired by God.The Gospel, Book of Mormon, and The Savior's Church are right or they are not.
Because we aren't perfect and things change.Why continue to question it? (and all the trivial details)
Peace,
Amonhi