Excellent points, Benjamin; you are exactly correct about the serpent actually representing Christ, and Lucifer trying to steal the imagery. I'm quite sure Adam and Eve, and all the old Patriarchs were VERY familiar with all of these things related to the ancient (and future!) cosmology - as was Joseph Smith.Benjamin Harrison wrote:Many think that satan is the serpent, but he is only the great counterfeiter who had to take the form of the serpent to deceive Eve and trick her into partaking of the fruit. Perhaps both Adam and Eve were familiar with these images and reresentations of Christ. Satan always tries to resemble our Father and our Savior.
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Do you notice you feel better when you walk barefoot on the Earth? Recent research has explained why this happens.
Your immune system functions optimally when your body has an adequate supply of electrons, which are easily and naturally obtained by barefoot contact with the Earth.
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Stoking the Star Maker Machinery
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Even though I have been vocal on politics yesterday and today, I have been moving my focus for some time. I agree with Joel Skousen, and I believe you also Glenn, that this country is getting saved at the ballot box. Even if we managed to somehow overcome the Diebold machines and other vote fraud that I believe is rampant, if we got anyone elected that would actually change anything (and he actually had the votes in the house and the senate to get those changes made) he wouldn't last a day.
My primary focus is to get me and my house right before the Lord, and then seek others who have done likewise to network. Even that is appearing to be a dim hope, when two people such as you and I, who probably agree on at least 95% of what matters, and differ only on the details, mostly, can't get along any better than we do.
My primary focus is to get me and my house right before the Lord, and then seek others who have done likewise to network. Even that is appearing to be a dim hope, when two people such as you and I, who probably agree on at least 95% of what matters, and differ only on the details, mostly, can't get along any better than we do.
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One way to understand all this stuff without getting a headache is to attend the annual Electric Universe Conferences, where you can personally meet Wal Thornhill, David Talbott, Dwardu Cardona, and the other authors and scientists involved. The 2013 conference is coming up in January:
From their conference page @ http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/09 ... g-point-2/:
"The phrase has never been more fitting: The Tipping Point. In matters of human thought and perception, the words describe the critical moment when the growing momentum of a new idea overrides the inertia of prior beliefs. A movement exhibiting this power cannot be turned back.
For the Electric Universe community, The Tipping Point means evidence converging from every scientific discipline. Unique predictions of an electrical paradigm fulfilled. Charged bodies in space powered by electric currents across interstellar and intergalactic distances. A model of electric star-formation bolstered by an explosion of new evidence for our electric Sun. Planets sculpted by electric arcs in an age of solar system violence. Comets discharging electrically as they plunge through the Sun’s electric field.
Now new dimensions of the Electric Universe are attracting visionary scientists, artists and students of the human story. An ancient sky animated by electrical dramas affecting every level of human culture. The electricity of life–layers of subtle energy that theorists simply overlooked in their rush to formulate mechanical models of life. Studies of human consciousness and connection that shattered the scientific paradigms of the 20th-century.
The Tipping Point is indeed at hand. In the scientific quest to understand our natural world, the 21st-century will look nothing like the last.
Join us at EU2013 for a three-day exploration of interdisciplinary science, an event designed to break the bounds of conventionality. Discover the universal role of the electric force, from microcosm to macrocosm, where virtually every new surprise points us in the same direction. And find your own connections within a movement that will shape the future of science."
From their conference page @ http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/09 ... g-point-2/:
"The phrase has never been more fitting: The Tipping Point. In matters of human thought and perception, the words describe the critical moment when the growing momentum of a new idea overrides the inertia of prior beliefs. A movement exhibiting this power cannot be turned back.
For the Electric Universe community, The Tipping Point means evidence converging from every scientific discipline. Unique predictions of an electrical paradigm fulfilled. Charged bodies in space powered by electric currents across interstellar and intergalactic distances. A model of electric star-formation bolstered by an explosion of new evidence for our electric Sun. Planets sculpted by electric arcs in an age of solar system violence. Comets discharging electrically as they plunge through the Sun’s electric field.
Now new dimensions of the Electric Universe are attracting visionary scientists, artists and students of the human story. An ancient sky animated by electrical dramas affecting every level of human culture. The electricity of life–layers of subtle energy that theorists simply overlooked in their rush to formulate mechanical models of life. Studies of human consciousness and connection that shattered the scientific paradigms of the 20th-century.
The Tipping Point is indeed at hand. In the scientific quest to understand our natural world, the 21st-century will look nothing like the last.
Join us at EU2013 for a three-day exploration of interdisciplinary science, an event designed to break the bounds of conventionality. Discover the universal role of the electric force, from microcosm to macrocosm, where virtually every new surprise points us in the same direction. And find your own connections within a movement that will shape the future of science."
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"I agree with Joel Skousen, and I believe you also Glenn, that this country is getting saved at the ballot box."
You may want to watch this video - THE CONSTITUTION WILL BE SAVED - BUT NOT BY WASHINGTON
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You may want to watch this video - THE CONSTITUTION WILL BE SAVED - BUT NOT BY WASHINGTON
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Joseph Smith is credited with saying that our Earth was much bigger and that it was divided at least a couple of times to take away Enoch City and the ten lost tribes. He also said that these pieces would come back and that they would merge again with us.
Science keeps finding planets but most if not all are larger than our planets.
'Super-Earth' exoplanet spotted 42 light-years away
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20249753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Science keeps finding planets but most if not all are larger than our planets.
'Super-Earth' exoplanet spotted 42 light-years away
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20249753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Discovering the Electric Universe – Tom Wilson Interview
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+1 For those in the area and have time I also highly suggest attending! I attended last year in Las Vegas and it was so amazing. But this years conference seems like it will top last years which I will not be attending. So many experts from so many different fields. A friend of mine (Michael Steinbacher-geologist) will be speaking this year and am really looking forward to hearing what he has to say. He has some mind blowing stuff on the Grand Canyon which many here would find fascinating. This year his talk is titled "A Large Plasma-Vortex Discharge to the Colorado Plateau"39shades wrote:One way to understand all this stuff without getting a headache is to attend the annual Electric Universe Conferences, where you can personally meet Wal Thornhill, David Talbott, Dwardu Cardona, and the other authors and scientists involved. The 2013 conference is coming up in January:
From their conference page @ http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/09 ... g-point-2/:
"The phrase has never been more fitting: The Tipping Point. In matters of human thought and perception, the words describe the critical moment when the growing momentum of a new idea overrides the inertia of prior beliefs. A movement exhibiting this power cannot be turned back.
For the Electric Universe community, The Tipping Point means evidence converging from every scientific discipline. Unique predictions of an electrical paradigm fulfilled. Charged bodies in space powered by electric currents across interstellar and intergalactic distances. A model of electric star-formation bolstered by an explosion of new evidence for our electric Sun. Planets sculpted by electric arcs in an age of solar system violence. Comets discharging electrically as they plunge through the Sun’s electric field.
Now new dimensions of the Electric Universe are attracting visionary scientists, artists and students of the human story. An ancient sky animated by electrical dramas affecting every level of human culture. The electricity of life–layers of subtle energy that theorists simply overlooked in their rush to formulate mechanical models of life. Studies of human consciousness and connection that shattered the scientific paradigms of the 20th-century.
The Tipping Point is indeed at hand. In the scientific quest to understand our natural world, the 21st-century will look nothing like the last.
Join us at EU2013 for a three-day exploration of interdisciplinary science, an event designed to break the bounds of conventionality. Discover the universal role of the electric force, from microcosm to macrocosm, where virtually every new surprise points us in the same direction. And find your own connections within a movement that will shape the future of science."
Also speaking is Stephen Crothers. Crothers is a preeminent mathematician, counted among the most competent critics of modern cosmology (including both the General Theory of Relativity and popular theory of the Big Bang). He has also gained much attention for his systematic unravelling of standard Black Hole theory, showing that the mathematical model of a Black Hole follows neither from observation nor from any logical reasoning from Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity. The math is advanced but the implications for the culture of science could not be more compelling.
Stephen’s criticisms of the core tenets of contemporary theory have been reviewed and accepted by independent experts in the affected fields, despite the fact that his heresy was so troubling to orthodox scientists that he was forced out of the PhD program at the School of Physics at the University of New South Wales (UNSW), Sydney, Australia.
Crothers website; The Black Hole, the Big Bang, and Modern Physics
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Great interview with Crothers!
Also Dwardu Cardona will be speaking again this year. One of the very best! Here is a link of those who will be speaking.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/09 ... -speakers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Really exciting see so many highly accredited scientists from so many different fields come together. All mesh and support each other.
As time permits (not much these days) I plan on posting some goods!
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I'm not great at physics (let alone higher mathematics), but the concept of an electric/plasma universe in intriguing.
I'm not so sure about all the stuff about Saturn joined the North Pole, etc...
But the pics that are posted here are cool
I'm not so sure about all the stuff about Saturn joined the North Pole, etc...
But the pics that are posted here are cool
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Yes, it is an awesome thread.
I don't know mathematics above rudimentary algebra, but I find physics fascinating (I don't believe I have to know or understand the formulas to grasp the basics of many physics topics). The stuff in this thread is physics at its best.
I don't know mathematics above rudimentary algebra, but I find physics fascinating (I don't believe I have to know or understand the formulas to grasp the basics of many physics topics). The stuff in this thread is physics at its best.
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Semp and others... I've read through some of this thread and watched some videos about the 'Electric Universe'..
I am wondering, do you know of anything written from an LDS perspective regarding the 'Electric Universe'?
I am wondering, do you know of anything written from an LDS perspective regarding the 'Electric Universe'?
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Yes Brian. I highly recommend the leading church expert in these matters and one I consider to be one of the best church scholars EVER, Anthony Larson. The Plasma Universe has such huge implications to the "RESTORED GOSPEL." It brings so much clarity and understanding to SOOOO many aspects of the restored gospel. You will understand for the first time why Joseph Smith said that the book of Revelation “is one of the plainest books God ever caused to be written.” Also, your understanding of prophecy will expound a hundred fold on prophecy.. Daniel, Isaiah, Joel, Nephi, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Joshua, Habakkuk, Zechariah ect... will no longer be a mystery and can be read with real understanding and also create a vision of the past as well as the future events which will user in Christ 2nd Coming. Also, sacred temple images, symbols, and Iconography will never be the same. The temple will bring on a whole new meaning and thus your understanding of the heavens will be enhanced in so many ways. Also, the creation will also become ever more clear as well as the millennium and the environment that we will soon expirences.BrianM wrote:Semp and others... I've read through some of this thread and watched some videos about the 'Electric Universe'..
I am wondering, do you know of anything written from an LDS perspective regarding the 'Electric Universe'?
Here is a list of books, videos, and websites I think you will like and help...
1.) The Prophecy Trilogy 1 - 3 by Anthony Larson
A.) Vol 1, and the Moon Shall Turn to Blood
B.) Vol 2, and the Earth Shall Reel to and Fro -
C.) Vol 3, and There Shall be a New Heaven and a New Earth
2.) “The Plainest Book: Revelation.” by Anthony Larson
All Four of these books you can check out at a local library. Or if you want to buy them you can usually purchase them under $8 on KSL, Amazon,or Ebay. They are not long books nor difficult to read, and are very good thought provoking books. I think you will really enjoy them and will give you a foundation to build on. I heard that Deseret Book now carries and sells The Prophecy Trilogy. Also, if interested you can buy them from his website on link below. I bought all 2 of mine on KSL for $15. I would do a price check and compare because you should be able to buy them for cheap. But highly recommended none the less. I have read a few reviews that say Anthony talks to much about the Electric Universe but this is FALSE. The Electric Universe didn't come around until after the writing of the trilogy books. Whats exciting is the "Electric Universe via "the Thunderbolts Project" back-up ever thing Larson puts in his books. Fascinating really. The first two books he relies heavily on Immanuel Velikovsky books and in particular "Worlds in Collision" which is recommended in all lds Old Testament manuals. Velikovsky believed in the bible and didn't believe Moses and the Exodus were myths. Well, you will never look at the Exodus the same ever again.
2.) Anthony Larson website/blog... Mormon Prophecy... Things as They Are, Were and Are to Come..
Link...
https://www.mormonprophecy.com/
https://www.mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/
Here are a few you might like to browse. Some really great stuff. In no particular order.
Prophecy for Dummies;
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2010
Religion, Science and Catastrophism;
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
The Prophets' Language;
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
The Keys to Prophecy 1: An Introduction
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
*there are 12 parts to Keys to Prophecy. On the right hand side of article you can go to part 2-12. These I think you will understand and enjoy.
What Joseph Knew;
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
The Polar Configuration and Joseph Smith;
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
The Saturn Myths and the Restored Gospel;
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
The Saturn Epic: In the Beginning
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
The Saturn Epic: Mythmaking
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
Saturn Symbolism in the Salt Lake Temple (Part 1)
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
Saturn Symbolism in the Salt Lake Temple (Part 2)
https://mormonprophecy.blogspot.com/2008
Just browse around and see what you might like or find interesting.
*Now if you are really interested I really think you will LOVE this. Anthony Larson has a 16 part series of online classes. I have not met or heard one bad review. Many on the forum have taken them and enjoyed them immensely. It is a "University Course" but by no means to advanced. What's great about them is they are live and as he goes through it he takes questions (YOU) afterwords to make sure nothing gets by you. The classes is what I suggest more than anything. But it really depends on you. One bad thing is each class is $10, but that is cheaper than any university course at BYU.
Also it should be noted Anthony has been studying this for 30+ years and is the only one in the church with books and websites. There are many authors and bloggers who have written about Anthony Larson and his works.
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Semp -Thank you for compiling this list. To ME, The concept of electric/plasma universe is intriguing from an astrophysics POV, even though I don't care for the triple dumbbell planet ideas. I appreciate your comments regarding plasma vs Big Bang, gravity, etc. Tesla holds intriguing possibilities - too bad his knowledge is lost to us for now....Yes Brian. I highly recommend the leading church expert in these matters and one I consider to be one of the best church scholars EVER, Anthony Larson. The Plasma Universe ...
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I really wish I had the money to have gone.For those in the area and have time I also highly suggest attending! I attended last year in Las Vegas and it was so amazing.
Sempt, have YOU ever considered holding classes on this for those whose "purse" is empty? I learn so much better with a live instructor and paper in hand. I would definitely try to make it. :ymhug:
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Doesn't mean that he was correct....JulesGP wrote:Joseph Smith also taught this concept!
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Doesn't mean he was incorrect....HeirofNumenor wrote:Doesn't mean that he was correct....JulesGP wrote:Joseph Smith also taught this concept!
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It does if it is in the D&C.HeirofNumenor wrote:Doesn't mean that he was correct....JulesGP wrote:Joseph Smith also taught this concept!
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No. I was just pointing out that if it is in D&C then it is not wrong. I was not commenting on the specific topic of triple-dumbbell planets.HeirofNumenor wrote:REALLY. so triple-dumbbell planets are in the D&C....