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TheBrotherOfJared
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Elections on hold

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What is to be gained by the LDGs if they manage to scrub the presidential election, and even the congressional elections as well. IMO, either McBama or O'Cain would continue the same policies established and promoted by the LDGs as President Bush & Co. I base that on, among other things, something that Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith wrote in “Doctrines of Salvation”, Vol.3, pp. 314-315: “Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him. That is why there is so much strife, turmoil, confusion all over the earth. One master mind is governing the nations. It is not the President of the United States...it is not the king or government of England or any other land; it is Satan himself.” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 3, pp. 314-315)

Considering Bush's low popularity, most American voters would probably be easily fooled into thinking a change would improve things.

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In general I agree with Lundback, however it wouldn't surprise me to see something strange like that happen, if anything, just drive another nail into the coffin of the constitution. The more they can shred the constitution, the more power they ultimately will have.

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Does anyone have any additional insight on this statement by Representative Burgess of Texas that the Speaker of the House has declared martial law?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B4laX1 ... om/?p=4932

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I think this "martial law" applies to congress. Dunno for sure though...

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buffalo_girl wrote:Does anyone have any additional insight on this statement by Representative Burgess of Texas that the Speaker of the House has declared martial law?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B4laX1 ... om/?p=4932
An explanation I found :
Use of the martial law procedure would enable the Leadership to seek to round up the votes needed to pass the budget reconciliation bill before a full picture is available of what the bill does. House Members also may be asked to vote on the defense appropriation bill before they have the opportunity to understand fully what has been inserted into it.

What is “Martial Law”?

The House leadership is using a parliamentary gambit to evade a longstanding House rule that is supposed to ensure that this kind of obfuscation does not occur. That House rule (Rule XIII(6)(a)) provides that a resolution (called a rule) reported by the Rules Committee cannot be considered by the House on the same legislative day that the rule is reported (except by a two-thirds vote of the House). This is supposed to ensure that Members of the House and the public have at least one day to examine and analyze what is in the legislation to be considered before they have to debate and vote on it.

To maneuver around this House rule and rush the revised reconciliation bill and defense appropriation bill to a vote before they have been fully examined, the Rules Committee reported a rule (H.Res. 632) on the legislative day of Saturday, December 17, that would waive the application of Rule XIII(6)(a). Instead, it would allow the Rules Committee to wait until the last minute — and not to report the rules governing consideration of the reconciliation and defense appropriations conference reports, or to release the conference reports themselves, until immediately before debate and votes on the rules and the legislation commences. This despite the fact that the budget legislation is expected to be hundreds of pages long.

This extraordinary procedure is known as a “martial law” rule because it suspends the normal procedures and safeguards and allows the House Leadership to operate in a more authoritarian fashion. It enables the Leadership to seek to ram a bill or conference report through before the Members have the opportunity to fully understand what they are voting on.
Dictatorship none the less.

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Thank you, truthseeds! Representative Burgess was quite upset in his statement.

This one from Representative Kaptur of Ohio is also strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAADyc6t ... om/?p=4931

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