You know I like you ChelC but heres the thing. I was listening to Ron Paul on Glen Beck the other day and Beck asked him why he doesn't just leave the Republican Party and go third party all the way. Paul said that he had to be practical because if he had left the Republican party he would never have been elected to the Congress these many years. Therefore he stays with the party. Now that to me was very telling. This guy is your icon for constitutional values yet he has chosen to stay with the party he trashes all the time because of electability prospects. So tell me what I am supposed to join? Even your own guy refused to do what all here advocate because of practicality issues. So lets look at reality. Paul does it. Has he bought into the lie?
I don't know, Mark. Paul is using the ticket to affect change. That's exactly what I've been trying to do also. I've tried to bring a voice for constitutionalism to the GOP as a county and state delegate, but I'm not party loyal. One can be reality based in working the system, but still step out and vote for a change of course. As long as the majority of constitutionalists fail to consider anyone who isn't on the republican ticket, you are correct, we will lose. I get why you and many others find that a wasted vote. I understand the ramifications with the Supreme Court and all of it, I just can't give my stamp of approval to someone who I don't believe in.
You say that the power brokers dont have a stronger voice than the people. What people? Look at this country. See who is getting elected time after time? In all offices of the congress how many non Republican/Democrats are in office? Why is that? It sure sounds like the power brokers have a stronger voice than the people to me.
Now they do, because we don't use our voices. We don't believe in ourselves. We are too defeated to stand up and take back our country.
You see my good friend the power brokers control the board here. Their influence continues to be dominant in this land. YOu are very much a minority in this political mindfield. The people in this land do not want to live under a constitutional republic because that requires personal sacrifices and personal responsibility. The vast majority continue to elect who they do because these leaders just mirror the people who are being represented.
I don't disagree with any of this.
Therefore I look to the bigger issues here. The Political game is a lost cause. I will join with any morally minded person to fight for morality and virtue where ever it can be found.
But you just said in essence you will join with any morally minded person who is on a winning ticket.
I completely agree with this. Only repentance will save us. Politics doesn't matter, so why not go down swinging, voting for principle and sleeping with a clear conscience? Why go to bed with the PTB if we believe it's a lost cause? I'll vote with my conscience and cross my fingers that the effort will snowball.To me the battle now being waged in our society is that of anti-Christ vs. Christ centered principles. Marriage is Christ centered. I will fight to keep its sacred nature in tact. Any issue that is Christ centered and moral I will fight for. Any that are anti-Christ I will fight against. Our future as a country is dependant on whether we stay moral and princpled. The political game is just a big distraction in this regard. Only a nation that has been founded on Christ centered princples will last. Otherwise our internal rot will set us up for a great fall. We will decay until the Lord uses a wicked surrogate to destroy a wicked nation. Isaiahs descrition of the last days Assyrian armies will be that surrogate. I will still fight for Christ centered principles even if it appears hopeless. Being a democrat or a republican or a third party person really doesn't matter in this overall battle for our survival as a nation. Only repentence and a return to morality and virtue can rescue us from the judgements of the Lord that will come upon us if we continue down the path we are on. Righteousness exalteth a nation. Wickedness will surely destroy it.