Maybe. I want to be sure that we aren't conflating "mentally insane" with "mental illness". Calling a person evil really doesn't accomplish much of anything in my opinion. Its simply a label. So, he is a wicked person. Now you say the solution is to teach righteousness. OK, but, who is going to teach righteousness? Were the teachers not teaching this person what was good and right? Did he have people in his life that were doing this? Clearly something didn't go through. I don't know if this is what you mean, but I don't think this person was born wicked or evil. He, like all of us, may have been born with weaknesses and dispositions, however, these don't in and of themselves make a person evil. The evilness may have come to him over time.yjacket wrote: ↑February 15th, 2018, 9:13 pmThe problem is that our entire language structure and how we talk about this is jacked up. This individual didn't have a "mental illness", he was wicked. He committed a very evil act.
Once we stop lying to ourselves as a culture we can actually begin to see the roots of the problem and fix it. Call it what it is, wickedness. This individual wasn't mentally ill . . . he posted on youtube that he wanted to be a school shooter. What we think about ourselves eventually becomes true.
So as a society we can't actually talk the appropriate language to even begin to solve the problem. There are a few instances where people black out, can't remember what they did and do something bad. There are instances where people temporarily go nuts (i.e. they can't talk, they can't function, etc., have an altered sense of reality, etc.).
But to plan out an attack and kill people, call it what it is . . . wickedness and evil. Anything else is just a massive societal delusion designed to self-deceive. Once you understand what this is (i.e. evil) then you begin to see the solution, i.e. good moral teachings!
"Mentally ill" has become society's go to code word for anything wicked. Kill your family-he must be mentally ill, rob a store at gunpoint-must be mentally ill, kill a bunch of people-must be mentally ill. Because of course what "sane" person would kill another. When the question really is what righteous good person would kill another? But heaven forbid we ever call someone evil or wicked . . .so we call them "mentally insane"
And it really does a massive disservice to individuals who are dealing with massive trauma (generally caused by being a direct participant in a truly malevolent act, either they did, saw done, or was done to them). Jordan Peterson has some great videos on this.
We don’t need.more government. (quantity)
tribrac wrote: ↑February 15th, 2018, 8:18 pmHave you read the public comments aboyt guns lately?David13 wrote: ↑February 15th, 2018, 6:08 pm
Tribrac
There is no such thing as gun violence. When someone is killed by a drunk driving, is that called car violence? Of course not. No one would go along with such nonsense.
When someone falls to their death, is it called gravity violence? Again.
How much further do we need to go?
dc
Very few people believe that argument.
And comparing to a dui is good, but what had the American public done to stop drunk driving? Legislate. And dui was nowhere near as emotional as children getting killed in schools.
Im sorry for people who are afraid of change because changes are coming very fast.
Liberal Democrat.Son of Liberty wrote: ↑February 16th, 2018, 6:36 am https://youtu.be/VIVF65-HTlc
Does anyone else notice the way Nikolas Cruz's handler I mean lawyer puts her arm around him on his back this is not standard procedure for lawyers. Is she comforting him or telling him what to do or threatening/reminding him what to say? Also who notices the flashy celebrity/royal necklace she is wearing that looks like something a queen or someone might wear. Obvious bribe/payment what public defender makes that kind of money to afford a necklace that size of that caliber or even private practice and then acts in the manner she does trying to appear to console or influence coerce Nikolas Cruz right before the confession is given. Look close people the truth is right before your eyes and it's terribly alarming wake up to the awful situation among us.
Just thought it was interesting.
She’s doing her job as loathsome as it is and wearing costume jewelry. There is no conspiracy here.Son of Liberty wrote: ↑February 16th, 2018, 6:36 am https://youtu.be/VIVF65-HTlc
Does anyone else notice the way Nikolas Cruz's handler I mean lawyer puts her arm around him on his back this is not standard procedure for lawyers. Is she comforting him or telling him what to do or threatening/reminding him what to say? Also who notices the flashy celebrity/royal necklace she is wearing that looks like something a queen or someone might wear. Obvious bribe/payment what public defender makes that kind of money to afford a necklace that size of that caliber or even private practice and then acts in the manner she does trying to appear to console or influence coerce Nikolas Cruz right before the confession is given. Look close people the truth is right before your eyes and it's terribly alarming wake up to the awful situation among us.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... troit/amp/Robin Hood wrote: ↑February 16th, 2018, 7:34 amJust thought it was interesting.
Why do people kill each other so often in the US... even without guns?
Are the figures skewed by a few black spots or is this an endemic problem throughout the nation?
Is there also a race differential?
Yeesh, that was depressing....DesertWonderer2 wrote: ↑February 16th, 2018, 7:51 amhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... troit/amp/Robin Hood wrote: ↑February 16th, 2018, 7:34 amJust thought it was interesting.
Why do people kill each other so often in the US... even without guns?
Are the figures skewed by a few black spots or is this an endemic problem throughout the nation?
Is there also a race differential?
If you look at this list of the 20 most dangerous cites in the US, your last question will be answered.
We're been doing better. Still got a long ways to go, though:
Murderers discovered Home Depot!
The reason is for fake shootings to get people emotional and frantic so they will accept whatever solution the government proposes (top of the list: gun control).eddie wrote: ↑February 16th, 2018, 4:35 am At the moment, I don't really care what the Florida gunman has been through, what kind of home he came from, who bullied him or the extent of his mental stability, I just don't care.
What I do care about is the safety of our children, and how to stop these gunmen from getting into our schools, I care about the ones who are attending school to learn, who will have careers, be good citizens, and most of all our future. They are the ones being shot in cold blood!
Why is it we can protect our money with guns, we also protect our Courtrooms with guns, and our Country, but we leave the children as sitting ducks?
Whatever the reason behind these shootings, right at this moment they need to be stopped!
But the guns have changed. These shootings aren't happening with grandpas 30-30.
Maybe we all need to take a time out and see if we can come to any common ground. For instance...
