What would you do

[skmo]

Rather than foster disagreement - some guidelines are in order:

1.) Hypothetical Constructs such as those posed by the OP in the form of "What would you do . . . ," cannot be answered because they are "imaginary" and not real. The conditions and boundaries of such "constructs" are fluidic and lie outside the bounds of reality. The "variables" are endless as opposed to those constraints that exist in real life.

A simple hypothetical can often be answered by a careful examination. The situation was fairly simple:

If you have someone you love who is gay (I do)

Who was married to their same sex partner (they are)

If they came to stay at your house would you let them sleep together as a married couple in your home or as them to have separate rooms?

Simple question to me, I have no children, but I have people I love in that situation, I would not allow people to sleep together in my house if they were not married by what my religious beliefs are. It doesn't mean I love them less, it doesn't mean I think poorly of them, it doesn't justify any bad behavior or feelings toward them, but I have the right and the will to have the rules in my house apply as I desire. That's why it's my house.

2.) Relationships and personalities are "unknowable" without familiarity. This has much to do with directing our decisions and interactions with others.

If they're your children, I would hope you have a familiarity with them.

3.) Does it matter? If it does, then "Why?" What is the point in asking the question?

It is a reasonable discussion to have so people may be exposed to differing opinions to examine when they find a possibility of a new situation which may place them in a difficult spot. It's kind of like a spiritual example of how I ride my motorcycle: I ride a block ahead of where I am in my mind so I can imagine scenarios I may have to adjust for in a split second in order to avoid an accident. If I think about problems before they occur and plan for them, I am better prepared to deal with a situation if it happens.

4.) Judgment is meant for "identification" and not condemnation.

Identification of situations we may find ourselves in. It is also prudent to use that judgement to prepare ourselves to ready actions we may need to take at some point.

And judgement may be used for condemnation, if it is done in righteousness. I condemn the use of alcohol, porn, or drugs in my house. I condemn sexual impropriety in my house. I don't condemn the people who do it, but I can condemn their actions. In my home I have the right to refuse my home to be used for those things. I wouldn't presume to tell others what they may do in their own homes (or in many other places for that matter) but if I believe it prudent I may testify about things I believe in. However, in my own home most people are welcome ( as imperfect as I am there are a few people I still refuse into my life, but I may work on that in the future) but some actions are prohibited.

[BruceRGilbert]

Rather than foster disagreement - some guidelines are in order:

1.) Hypothetical Constructs such as those posed by the OP in the form of "What would you do . . . ," cannot be answered because they are "imaginary" and not real. The conditions and boundaries of such "constructs" are fluidic and lie outside the bounds of reality. The "variables" are endless as opposed to those constraints that exist in real life.

A simple hypothetical can often be answered by a careful examination. The situation was fairly simple:

If you have someone you love who is gay (I do)

Who was married to their same sex partner (they are)

If they came to stay at your house would you let them sleep together as a married couple in your home or as them to have separate rooms?

Simple question to me, I have no children, but I have people I love in that situation, I would not allow people to sleep together in my house if they were not married by what my religious beliefs are. It doesn't mean I love them less, it doesn't mean I think poorly of them, it doesn't justify any bad behavior or feelings toward them, but I have the right and the will to have the rules in my house apply as I desire. That's why it's my house.

2.) Relationships and personalities are "unknowable" without familiarity. This has much to do with directing our decisions and interactions with others.

If they're your children, I would hope you have a familiarity with them.

3.) Does it matter? If it does, then "Why?" What is the point in asking the question?

It is a reasonable discussion to have so people may be exposed to differing opinions to examine when they find a possibility of a new situation which may place them in a difficult spot. It's kind of like a spiritual example of how I ride my motorcycle: I ride a block ahead of where I am in my mind so I can imagine scenarios I may have to adjust for in a split second in order to avoid an accident. If I think about problems before they occur and plan for them, I am better prepared to deal with a situation if it happens.

4.) Judgment is meant for "identification" and not condemnation.

Identification of situations we may find ourselves in. It is also prudent to use that judgement to prepare ourselves to ready actions we may need to take at some point.

And judgement may be used for condemnation, if it is done in righteousness. I condemn the use of alcohol, porn, or drugs in my house. I condemn sexual impropriety in my house. I don't condemn the people who do it, but I can condemn their actions. In my home I have the right to refuse my home to be used for those things. I wouldn't presume to tell others what they may do in their own homes (or in many other places for that matter) but if I believe it prudent I may testify about things I believe in. However, in my own home most people are welcome ( as imperfect as I am there are a few people I still refuse into my life, but I may work on that in the future) but some actions are prohibited.

Skmo, I have always liked you . . . even from the beginning. I find you to be a genuine person . . . honest, forthright and real. Thank you for expressing your viewpoints. I find them valid and non-threatening. My respect.

[Fiannan]

I would rather have two gay men stay overnight at my house than I would someone like Romney or McMullin.

[Elizabeth]

Fiannan, That is an extraordinary statement and one which I am unable to comprehend.

I would rather have two gay men stay overnight at my house than I would someone like Romney or McMullin.

[Robin Hood]

I would rather have two gay men stay overnight at my house than I would someone like Romney or McMullin.

I think you'll probably regret writing that when you think about it a bit more.

[Ezra]

I would rather have two gay men stay overnight at my house than I would someone like Romney or McMullin.

I think you'll probably regret writing that when you think about it a bit more.

Either way it’s a nasty thought.

[Fiannan]

I would rather have two gay men stay overnight at my house than I would someone like Romney or McMullin.

I think you'll probably regret writing that when you think about it a bit more.

No, I know a gay man who is one of the nicest guys I have ever met. I do not think one could say that about the two entities I mentioned.

[Elizabeth]

As far as I am aware, I personally do not know any homosexuals, nor do I want to. If this situation were to change, I would never consider any practicing homosexual to be a friend, nor would I encourage any association. I would however let them know that such actions were a sinful abomination and should be abandoned and repented of.

[gardener4life]

Also rather than a clever argument its pretty amazing how many of you care about doing what's right and are trying to find a balance between exercising courage but also being kind.

[captainfearnot]

Accepting a hypothetical married gay son or daughter into my home isn't really an issue for me.

But the topic has got me wondering if there is anything that would cause me to turn my kids away. I suppose if one of my kids were a pedophile and wanted to shack up with a child under my roof, there's no way I could condone that. I know some people think of homosexuality as a similar kind of act so I guess I can empathize, even though I don't agree.

[Robin Hood]

I would rather have two gay men stay overnight at my house than I would someone like Romney or McMullin.

I think you'll probably regret writing that when you think about it a bit more.

No, I know a gay man who is one of the nicest guys I have ever met.

Lucifer is a gentleman by all accounts. He probably comes across as a "nice guy" too.
The scriptures describe your friend as a reprobate.

[Gage]

Lucifer is behind this entire movement, this false God created by men, a God that loves us so much he doesn't care what we do as long as we love one another and do not judge.

[Fiannan]

...I would have a difficult time allowing a racist be in my home or even on my property.

Just for argument's sake, how do you define racism? I mean, would you ban a racist like Ghandi from being on your property?

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-37430324

[Robin Hood]

...I would have a difficult time allowing a racist be in my home or even on my property.

Just for argument's sake, how do you define racism? I mean, would you ban a racist like Ghandi from being on your property?

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-37430324

Or perhaps Brigham Young et al?
Fiannan makes an excellent point. Ghandi, George Washington, and Bro. Brigham not welcome, but anyone with a Sodom postcode come right on in!

[Fiannan]

...I would have a difficult time allowing a racist be in my home or even on my property.

Just for argument's sake, how do you define racism? I mean, would you ban a racist like Ghandi from being on your property?

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-37430324

Or perhaps Brigham Young et al?
Fiannan makes an excellent point. Ghandi, George Washington, and Bro. Brigham not welcome, but anyone with a Sodom postcode come right on in!

You forgot Joseph Smith and Abraham Lincoln.

[Merriner]

I wouldn't let my kids look at porn in my house, or drink alcohol or smoke in my house or fornicate with the opposite sex in my house, so why would I let them pretend that their marriage is valid and that they can sleep in the same room where they can prostitute themselves against nature. The Family Proclamation says marriage is between a man and a woman, so if a family member in my family married someone of the same gender, then I can't support that marriage. If I had a daughter and she wasn't 16 and shouldn't be dating, then I wouldn't be okay with her having a boyfriend. If my son had a boyfriend at any age, I wouldn't be okay with it. Period. God doesn't validate that marriage, so its as if they aren't really even married. Also, sodomy is a sin that I would not allow to take place in my home. The home is the holy place for the family. We want to make our home a place where the spirit can dwell. You can't invite the spirit to a strip club or a kegger party. If their marriage and their acting on their lusts in my home offends the spirit. Take it elsewhere. I can love my children without letting them do whatever they want. If they want to rebel and break our hearts, they aren't going to do it in my house.