Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 18th, 2017, 11:11 amI'm sorry Silver, but you're going to have to reference that. It 's a bit of a stretch in my view and certainly romanticises the martydom beyond anything which is historically justified.Silver wrote: ↑November 18th, 2017, 10:41 am Joseph fired the pistol to save the others. He was very well aware of why the mobbers came to Carthage jail that day. Those servants of Satan weren't there to kill Willard Richards.
Joseph went to the window to save the others. If he landed on the ground alive, the evil men there would have shot him and stopped firing into the room where Joseph and the others had gathered. If he died in the window or on the way down, the evil men there would have stopped firing into the room where Joseph and the others had gathered.
Joseph sacrificed his life to save the others.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13) RH, you're wrong about Joseph having a Telestial mindset.
And you're wrong about the use of guns for defensive purposes. If this discussion were being held 1,000 years ago, would you be poo-pooing on spears or high-capacity quivers? A gun is a tool. A tool. It can be used for good or evil, but of itself it is neither good nor evil.
Wrong again. There is nothing "romantic" about a gun battle, or a murder of a man in a jail cell. It is absolutely historically correct.
Compare it to Charles the First losing his head? Did he get any of them first? No. Rather a bloody conclusion for a "civilized" nation.
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