The Mark of The Beast and the fate of those that accept it

[Stourme]

The "Mark of The Beast" has been the subject of speculation since people have been allowed to freely read scripture. And in it's entirety, been misunderstood.

The reference to the mark comes from Rev 13.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

prefaced by:

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The first question is; who is the beast?
Answer: The beast is the devil.

Most people, especially Evangelicals misinterpret this scripture (well, as with most scriptures), to mean that the "dragon" is the devil. This is not true. The mark belongs to the beast. In Rev 11 we read about the two prophets killed in Jerusalem:
Rev 11
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

It is the devil and his angels that dwell in the bottomless pit.

Second question: Who is the dragon and how can he give power to the devil?
Answer: Only man's obedience to the will of the devil can give the devil power. The dragon is a representation of wicked people throughout the word that are doing the devils bidding. Paul prophesied of this:
2 Tim 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Take note of verse 3; Homosexuals, liars, fierce, angry, haters of good people, treacherous, arrogant, etc... You don't have to go far for examples,
just look at any antifa protest or pride parade and you'll see all this on complete display. This also fits with what Lehi saw in his dream of the tree of life. Lehi talked about this vision of the great and spacious building filled with people in the attitude of mocking the people of God. These are the people of the world that have accepted the mark of the beast. They are the despisers of the good.

This is what gives the beast his power.

Third question: What is the mark of the beast or what is the mark of the devil?
Answer: The answer is simple. The mark is here now in the world making it's way throughout the world and is easy to spot.

From the Lord's perspective there are no fence sitters:
Rev 3
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

In the last days, a person either has the mark of God in their foreheads or the mark of the devil. The mark is not a physical mark but the ideas and
thoughts of God. The mark in the hand is not a physical mark, but it is the raising of the hand to sustain or vote and accept the will of the devil.

Rev 13
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Global progressivism is one way to spot the mark. How many people have lost contracts, jobs, business for not accepting homosexual marriage?
In Canada and in certain parts of Europe a person can face jail time for merely criticizing transgenderism or homosexual marriage. The global push for abortion and gender confusion. And the punishment of anyone that resists.

Another key is their hatred of people that refuse to accept this mark.
As time progresses this will get worse.

Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Those who do not accept the mark of God, by default accept the mark of the devil. And as time passes, this evil consume the whole world which will lead to D & C 45 and the gathering of the Saints for protection.

Rev 13
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

The will of the devil is so pervasive that all on the earth shall have the thoughts of the devil and accept his will. The only people who will not accept the mark, or the will of the devil which is the way of the world, are worthy members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

We must resist being the people Lehi and Paul prophesied about. We have to resist any government policy, social trend, or mind set that is contrary to the will of God. We must be in harmony with the Lord's prophet and good standing with the Lord's Church in order to judged to have accepted the mark of God and have rejected the mark of the beast.

To accept the social norms that the world is creating and the violence and depravity that it produces is to guarantee that you will hear these words one day:

Luke 13
27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

[Michelle]

This is an excellent post!

I do believe in the literal mark of the beast, but I think what you shared above can still be true.

[Durzan]

This makes more sense then a lot of the half-baked theories that have been postulated over the past 2000 years.

[mcusick]

I agree. Most people (maybe even myself) already have the mark of the beast. It's not some microchip.

I disagree with identifying the the beast as the devil; how do you explain Michael warring with the dragon?

[Tbone]

I know it's not popular here to mention Visions of Glory, but Spencer said pretty much the same thing and linked it to how we marked ourselves in regards to the political correctness movements.

[Michelle]

I agree. Most people (maybe even myself) already have the mark of the beast. It's not some microchip.

I disagree with identifying the the beast as the devil; how do you explain Michael warring with the dragon?

You are not the first person to insist it has nothing to do with a microchip. Can you share why you believe that?

[mcusick]

You are not the first person to insist it has nothing to do with a microchip. Can you share why you believe that?

1. If you read 'Revelation' in one sitting, you see there are two competing forehead marks. One "of the beast", one "of our God" (Revelation 7:3). It is linked with who individuals worship. It is a name (or the number of a name): Revelation 14:11, Revelation 22:4.

2. Some have suggested that the "mark of the beast" is a sort of subversion of Jewish imagery--phylacteries.
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Similarly, John (or the vision) uses the imagery of high priestly robes for the whore of babylon, so this type of subversive imagery has precedence in 'Revelation': "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth" (Revelation 17:4-5).

3. Food and commerce have been used in spiritual contexts: "Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost" (Isaiah 55:1). Nephi quotes this in the context of last days prophecy (2 Nephi 26:25). I don't think it's a stretch to consider a non-literal interpretation of the restrictions on commerce, though it is not interpreted in the text, so you are free to believe microchips are the fulfillment of this prophecy.

[Stourme]

I agree. Most people (maybe even myself) already have the mark of the beast. It's not some microchip.

I disagree with identifying the the beast as the devil; how do you explain Michael warring with the dragon?

You are not the first person to insist it has nothing to do with a microchip. Can you share why you believe that?

A couple reasons, the first is we're talking about the whole world, this would take global unity on a scale that defies imagination. How do you microchip the whole third world?
We know from scripture that the whole world will be at war and probably anarchy when the savior returns, so there never will be unity ever in the world.

Communism, socialism, global progressivism which includes homosexual marriage and gender confusion, feminism, tyranny, and violence, also the worlds religions all transcend governments and borders and all originate from the devil. They all stand in opposition to God and the plan of salvation.

Remember there are two opposing marks, see Rev 7:3. In John's time, the term in the "forehead" meant your thoughts and the right hand has always been for sustaining. Also, if there is a microchip for the mark of the beast there would also have to be one for the mark of God. God is not going to microchip His people.

Also, the evidence for not being allowed to buy or sell is a sign of the times and it's here and happening. Who is it happening to and for what reason?

Understanding prophecy is tricky. It's meant to confound learned men of the world. But be understood by those with the gift of the Holy Ghost. It won't be obvious to the world.

You can reword the logic to fit our times to make it more clear.

1. A person that runs a business that doesn't support homosexual marriage is charged with discrimination and is put out of business.
2. A person in an Islamic controlled country that doesn't accept Islam is not allowed to buy or sell or as we've already seen, beheaded.
3. A person that isn't a progressive or gives money to support good causes is boycotted or even fired from their job.
Etc.

Each of these ideals are part of the same "mark" and each can be happening in different parts of the world and all have the same result.

The idea of not buying or selling is not always literal in a strictest sense. The huge sign that is always used in reference to the second coming is the moon turning to blood. Officially, this sign was giving not many years ago during the gulf war. A prophet of God said that the sign was actually given when the oil wells in Iraq were set on fire and it made the moon turn red and appear to be as blood. This was the event that was described in scripture.

My point is, this is real and it's here and happening right in front of us. See it for what it is.

Do you think that the ISIS thug in the middle east that persecutes Jews and Christians, the antifa thug that puts on a mask and smashes and burns in the street, and the despot that imprisons
political oppositions, the feminists that marches in the street demanding abortions at any stage of pregnancy and for any reason, the communist, false churches, homosexual advocates, on and on are all getting their inspiration from the same place? The obvious answer is yes.

They've all chosen the same master and the same mark. It doesn't matter whether they hate each other or not. It all has the same damning effect on the human spirit.

[Z2100]

I agree. Most people (maybe even myself) already have the mark of the beast. It's not some microchip.

I disagree with identifying the the beast as the devil; how do you explain Michael warring with the dragon?

You are not the first person to insist it has nothing to do with a microchip. Can you share why you believe that?

A couple reasons, the first is we're talking about the whole world, this would take global unity on a scale that defies imagination. How do you microchip the whole third world?
We know from scripture that the whole world will be at war and probably anarchy when the savior returns, so there never will be unity ever in the world.

Communism, socialism, global progressivism which includes homosexual marriage and gender confusion, feminism, tyranny, and violence, also the worlds religions all transcend governments and borders and all originate from the devil. They all stand in opposition to God and the plan of salvation.

Remember there are two opposing marks, see Rev 7:3. In John's time, the term in the "forehead" meant your thoughts and the right hand has always been for sustaining. Also, if there is a microchip for the mark of the beast there would also have to be one for the mark of God. God is not going to microchip His people.

Also, the evidence for not being allowed to buy or sell is a sign of the times and it's here and happening. Who is it happening to and for what reason?

Understanding prophecy is tricky. It's meant to confound learned men of the world. But be understood by those with the gift of the Holy Ghost. It won't be obvious to the world.

You can reword the logic to fit our times to make it more clear.

1. A person that runs a business that doesn't support homosexual marriage is charged with discrimination and is put out of business.
2. A person in an Islamic controlled country that doesn't accept Islam is not allowed to buy or sell or as we've already seen, beheaded.
3. A person that isn't a progressive or gives money to support good causes is boycotted or even fired from their job.
Etc.

Each of these ideals are part of the same "mark" and each can be happening in different parts of the world and all have the same result.

The idea of not buying or selling is not always literal in a strictest sense. The huge sign that is always used in reference to the second coming is the moon turning to blood. Officially, this sign was giving not many years ago during the gulf war. A prophet of God said that the sign was actually given when the oil wells in Iraq were set on fire and it made the moon turn red and appear to be as blood. This was the event that was described in scripture.

My point is, this is real and it's here and happening right in front of us. See it for what it is.

Do you think that the ISIS thug in the middle east that persecutes Jews and Christians, the antifa thug that puts on a mask and smashes and burns in the street, and the despot that imprisons
political oppositions, the feminists that marches in the street demanding abortions at any stage of pregnancy and for any reason, the communist, false churches, homosexual advocates, on and on are all getting their inspiration from the same place? The obvious answer is yes.

They've all chosen the same master and the same mark. It doesn't matter whether they hate each other or not. It all has the same damning effect on the human spirit.

You’re right. The Mark of The Beast isn’t a microchip; it’s the evil people of the world who are going to the Telestial Kingdom.

[Thinker]

Or the mark of the beast could refer to both the leftist mind-control/action as well as a microchip that could eventually be used to control people.

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

The part about buying or selling seems to fit with microchips.

Other considerations:
Beast is symbolically referred to as foolish and ignorant (“know not what they do”) hunter.
Beast brings to mind carnal, untamed, horrifying aspects... animalistic herd mentality, blindly following the crowd. Beast may symbolize “evil and violence that potentially exists in the heart of every human“ - along with mob-mentality which causes much more damage! Individuals would never do the horrific insanity the’ll enthusiastically do when part of a mob.

Take away: think for yourself! Stand up for truth - even when it doesn’t seem to affect you - defend others’ rights to free speech and life!

[Benjamin_LK]

The "Mark of The Beast" has been the subject of speculation since people have been allowed to freely read scripture. And in it's entirety, been misunderstood.

The reference to the mark comes from Rev 13.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

prefaced by:

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The first question is; who is the beast?
Answer: The beast is the devil.

Most people, especially Evangelicals misinterpret this scripture (well, as with most scriptures), to mean that the "dragon" is the devil. This is not true. The mark belongs to the beast. In Rev 11 we read about the two prophets killed in Jerusalem:
Rev 11
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

It is the devil and his angels that dwell in the bottomless pit.

Second question: Who is the dragon and how can he give power to the devil?
Answer: Only man's obedience to the will of the devil can give the devil power. The dragon is a representation of wicked people throughout the word that are doing the devils bidding. Paul prophesied of this:
2 Tim 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Take note of verse 3; Homosexuals, liars, fierce, angry, haters of good people, treacherous, arrogant, etc... You don't have to go far for examples,
just look at any antifa protest or pride parade and you'll see all this on complete display. This also fits with what Lehi saw in his dream of the tree of life. Lehi talked about this vision of the great and spacious building filled with people in the attitude of mocking the people of God. These are the people of the world that have accepted the mark of the beast. They are the despisers of the good.

This is what gives the beast his power.

Third question: What is the mark of the beast or what is the mark of the devil?
Answer: The answer is simple. The mark is here now in the world making it's way throughout the world and is easy to spot.

From the Lord's perspective there are no fence sitters:
Rev 3
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

In the last days, a person either has the mark of God in their foreheads or the mark of the devil. The mark is not a physical mark but the ideas and
thoughts of God. The mark in the hand is not a physical mark, but it is the raising of the hand to sustain or vote and accept the will of the devil.

Rev 13
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Global progressivism is one way to spot the mark. How many people have lost contracts, jobs, business for not accepting homosexual marriage?
In Canada and in certain parts of Europe a person can face jail time for merely criticizing transgenderism or homosexual marriage. The global push for abortion and gender confusion. And the punishment of anyone that resists.

Another key is their hatred of people that refuse to accept this mark.
As time progresses this will get worse.

Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Those who do not accept the mark of God, by default accept the mark of the devil. And as time passes, this evil consume the whole world which will lead to D & C 45 and the gathering of the Saints for protection.

Rev 13
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

The will of the devil is so pervasive that all on the earth shall have the thoughts of the devil and accept his will. The only people who will not accept the mark, or the will of the devil which is the way of the world, are worthy members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

We must resist being the people Lehi and Paul prophesied about. We have to resist any government policy, social trend, or mind set that is contrary to the will of God. We must be in harmony with the Lord's prophet and good standing with the Lord's Church in order to judged to have accepted the mark of God and have rejected the mark of the beast.

To accept the social norms that the world is creating and the violence and depravity that it produces is to guarantee that you will hear these words one day:

Luke 13
27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

And yet somehow many people are still speculating and ignoring what is right in front of them...